Edward III - A Game of Thrones

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  • čas přidán 29. 10. 2020
  • We're back with a special video featuring two FANTASTIC historians: Dr Helen Castor and Richard Barber. We explore the background to the events of October 1330, when power was seized by the teenage Edward III from his own mother, Isabella of France and her ally Roger Mortimer.

Komentáře • 22

  • @Sean12248
    @Sean12248 Před 2 lety +10

    I know there's a show called World without end that has Edward III I just wish there was more of him on tv or film.

  • @andrewj497
    @andrewj497 Před 2 lety +2

    This was high quality 👍

  • @janeaustenist
    @janeaustenist Před 2 lety +3

    Helen Caster is compelling!

  • @kerriefuller1696
    @kerriefuller1696 Před 3 lety +4

    I found it helpful to listen to The Lost Tapes of History podcast - ep 11 is Edward III and the Angel Investor!

  • @michaellandreth3870
    @michaellandreth3870 Před 2 lety +1

    By whatever disputed method it came about, it is almost certain Edward III’s reign would have resulted in a continuation of a less abrasive feudalism than previously understood-at least in England. What finally undercut this progression was the Black Death, which accelerated the end of feudalism and ultimately undermined Edward’s kingship, which might be remembered differently if the project he was pursuing was not ended and even overwhelmed by one of history’s most stark turning points at the end of his reign.

    • @johnburns9634
      @johnburns9634 Před rokem

      The great famine certainly didn't help Edward II's rule.

  • @marcuswoolley3424
    @marcuswoolley3424 Před 3 lety +7

    When I learnt that the 'red hot poker' story regarding Edward II's death was almost certainly false I was devestated. That was one of my favourite 'facts' as a (Horrible Histories books) influcenced kid!

    • @ViralHistory
      @ViralHistory  Před 3 lety +7

      An extremely homophobic trope that only took hold well after Edward II’s death. No contemporary accounts of anything to support it.

    • @marcuswoolley3424
      @marcuswoolley3424 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ViralHistory Indeed. Aged 7, I assume I was too young to understand said homphobic undertone and just found it really funny! Still, the theories around Edward's survival are quite fascinating (if almost certainly untrue) and form a major plot point in one of my favourite novels 'World Without End' by Ken Follet (Pillars of the Earth Sequel).

    • @ViralHistory
      @ViralHistory  Před 3 lety +2

      @@marcuswoolley3424 highly recommend the work of historian Kathryn Warner on the reign and character of Edward II: an extremely prolific historian who rigorously interrogates only contemporary sources and has thoroughly re-examined the reign without the contamination of later (ie Mortimer’s) propaganda.

    • @bugsby4663
      @bugsby4663 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ViralHistory Her book on Edward II is superb and I do think she makes a very good case for Edward's survival.

    • @Oksana7305
      @Oksana7305 Před 3 lety

      @@bugsby4663 Yes I think so too. Only question why execute Mortimer for this? Or maybe Edward 111 didn't know at this point

  • @Oksana7305
    @Oksana7305 Před 3 lety +1

    Well I think Mortimer's position was legitimate. It must have been sanctioned by more than a few. Lisa Benz suggests he was on the regency council. Its not as if he was making himself king . He had no claim and he knew that. But regardless of whether or not he was on the regency council I think Isabella had a right to decide which man was going to be regent for her son

  • @Oksana7305
    @Oksana7305 Před 3 lety +1

    What a horrible person Edward 111 was..

    • @Meow_Zedong_1949
      @Meow_Zedong_1949 Před 3 lety +14

      What a horrible person he was to protect his family's honour, what a horrible person he was to protect his right to his own throne, what a horrible person he was to protect his own family from an ambitious man who wanted to bump them off and place his unborn bastard on the throne, what a horrible person he was to put an end to a power hungry traitor who murdered his father and refused to end Edward III's regency peacefully when he came of age.

    • @lailaisaidit2223
      @lailaisaidit2223 Před 3 lety +12

      "Many people today, even historians, often make the mistake of judging history and people of history, by modern moral standards. Often stupidly thinking they would have made different decisions had they lived in the time. I counter this by stating had you been raised with medieval concept and morality in values, not modern one"
      - The People Profiles (History CZcamsr)

    • @Oksana7305
      @Oksana7305 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Meow_Zedong_1949 do your research ,v the ambitious man had no strong claim to the throne and even if he had tried would never have been accepted as others were ahead of him. An illegitimate child would not have been accepted either. If Mortimer wanted to bump off Edward he'd have done it long ago but he'd have lost Isabella. And he'd have needed to get rid of all threats but in 1330 anyone who could and would have retaliated was alive, Queen Philippa, John of Eltham, Thomas of Norfolk , Lancaster etc etc. Also there is no evidence that Mortimer was never going to handover. All parliamentary records were destroyed. All regents take their time handing over, but with the unrest maybe he was afraid to and might have thought Edward was a bit young and immature or that he could be kidnapped and or manipulated.With Henry 111 the age of majority was 21. As for placing an illegitimate child on the throne that could only have worked in a William the conqueror situation where there were very few claimants with weak claims
      Also many historians today argue that Edward 11 wasn't murdered.

    • @JTCCWB
      @JTCCWB Před 2 lety +2

      Edward III, king of England is my 16th great grandfather.

    • @JTCCWB
      @JTCCWB Před 2 lety

      Mary de Stapleton is my second cousin 15 times removed's husband's wife's great grandmother.