Repairing the EPB module on a Land Rover Discovery 3/4 for just £20
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- So the EPB is a common problem with the Land Rover Discovery 3/4 series and Range Rover Sport... Unfortunately it's a very expensive repair, or is it??
Wimpy takes on the challenge of replacing the gears inside the Electronic Parking Brake Module to avoid replacing it and saving over £1000.
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This video gave me the confidence to get on and do the job myself, I've been putting it off for a while and the MOT is due shortly! I had previously managed to un-wind the jammed actuator but by that time the plastic gear were wrecked so it didn't work after reassembling. Anyway I watched this video and tackled the job. Doing it this way does not require the extraction of the whole actuator and cables, a big benefit! Even so it took me about 15 hours in total. The problem with my unit was much the same, all to do with the spring and retaining circlip. Saved me a fortune, Thank you.
Nicely done! Just a few moments: 1) You do not need and should not to put tension sensor from it (its film cable is super fragile). 2) When installing motor back, make sure you spinned 5-6 spins (no more!) on the thread, it is how it should be when your right and left cables are in brake pads changing position.
Hey just done the epb as you described however just disconnected the brake cables from the shoes allowing me to flip the box round. Saved loads of time and cash. Thanks for the video. 👍 👍
Awesome!! Nice work bro 👍 happy to hear my video helped
@@WIMPYbrothers garage said they didn't want to do it due to it being a nightmare. Will deffo be telling them about your method.
Landyworx here in South Africa have actually engineered brass gears for a permanent fix for that module at half the cost of a new EPB module.
Can you send some to uk
What is their website?
Website or link please.
Had my 2006 Range Rover sports HSE Diesal for 2years now. Have the same problems with the electronic handbrake. I just leave in park these days. After seeing this video I will give it a go. I asked a few indy garage people but nobody interested in doing this job. First new job is changing to coil springs, then transmission flush then this. Subscribed.
Best of luck mate!! And thanks for your support 👍
Just to say I got the suspension done, air/ coil springs. Used the kit from Dunlop Terra Firma. Indy garage door for me over the weekend about £250 labour the kit which Inc electronic device to clear the suspension fault codes cost £ 673 Good ride height and peace of mind
He will get big soon... Production is spot on :)
Thanks for the vote of confidence bro... appreciate it big time
Done mine over last couple days . This helped me so much .thanks .
Nice camera work. I didn't pay attention to the two wires on the motor when I pulled them off. Your video clearly shows the orientation of the two wires that was very helpful.
Thanks for this mate. I'd overlooked that allen screw loosening, tapping and retightening to 6 NM on the inner brake.
Which I'll be doing after repairing my EPB module. Not sure why you felt the need to completely remove the cables
from the wheel hub assembly. Since it appears you just reinstalled them for the new brakes. I'd read that there is a
sensor somewhere that will trigger a dash warning/fault if the spring resistance to the cable is altered too much. So
it is probably wise to replace them as you did.
Great Video! I made a big mistake not pulling the EPB fuse and I think my daughter hit a button and caused the corkscrew to come undone in there. It's clicking when Im trying to engage it. I have to tear it all apart and like you I wanted to cry! I did not come at the Johnson from behind though and that looks WAY easier than the way i did it! Def learned a thing or two! Cheers!
Glad it helped! It is a testing job, I wanted to set fire to the bloody thing, Really!! We deserve a medal I think for taking on the EPB!! Well done mate and I hope its all working ok
Oh man, bad news I still didn’t get it to work. My gearbox came apart differently and I didn’t notice the retaining c clip missing! Also I have the 4.4 V8 and realized I can’t get to it from behind as there’s some kind of emissions unit in the way. 3rd time is the charm!! 😥😥😥
Well done man. Only advice i am gonna give you, is adjust those shoes up a bit more. that motor is working much more then it should be for new shoes and discs! Meaning it'll need adjustment sooner or you'll have the same problem again. The motor setup gets to the end of its travel and thats when the problems occour.
top video though and top effort!
Good vid man, you deserve more viewers, I find you really entertaining.. keep at it fella!
Thanks bro!! Defo more vids coming soon 👍 appreciate your support
You are the man 🤝✋🏽High Five : Loved the part when you put the parts all back together/ tried the Land Rover and it was a success ! You almost cried : that’s the best part man : Your a great God to mechanics !!!! Thank you I learn so much from you !!😛😛😛😛🤩👑🤗🤗🤗
Nice. Your hands growing from the right place. From Russia with Love ;)
Nice one mate, looking forward to the D4 repairs,🤓, I’ve probably gone through all the known D4 weak points on my D4, owned it from 2013 and cant get enough content on them. Love the D4’s & 3’s to bits. Keep it coming mate😎
You and me both! Thanks mate!!
Well done, wish I had the tools to fix my parking brake problem
Are mine is making same noise drat and double drat haha but thanks for your video
Loving the effort in this. Some great editing as well. Looking forward to the new project. With new merch on show. Lion Design style. J
Defo mate... Much appreciated! BIG UP!! LION DESIGN
Great video with some humour thrown in for good measure 👍👍
Just checked your Land Rover Handbrake video and I must say it looks like a nightmare of a job to do. I have the same issue, can you let me have the details of where I can purchase the repair gear sets from. Your are a superstar......
Great work thanks for producing this, gave me the confidence to have a crack. Do they salt the roads in the uk? Looks like a nightmare.
An englishman in Farges. May I ask, how living is in France, especially in Farges ( besides the Discoverys😉😁). I like France and the French people and dreamed for a while of moving to France, too.
My disco 3 from 2005...Totally agree with you, this car is a kick in the ass but even though it gives me problems all the time I love it !!!
This one confused me to start. Seen the Christmas tree in the background & was thinking bit early Wimpy, then 31st dec. I was like I know I’ve not missed a video.
Stobsie Nah mate!! This was in the Archives of my computer... I never finished the edit as got distracted by the Wimpystang... but as I went through the pain of the repair I figured why not share it. Also it may attract some new faces to the channel. I have a few others somewhere as that car needs loads of work!! Typical Land Rover 😫
love that feeling you shared :-) great Vid!
Thanks mate!! Welcome to the channel, I really appreciate your support 👍
The LR4 EPB box is in a different place. It's removed from above the RHS wheel. Cable runs are different, exhaust heat shields need to come off.
Hey, good stuff, very encouraging for an LR3 owner like myself whose warming up for DIY repairs and maintenance. Just curious, what diagnostics tool did you use (or would you recommend for the LR3)? Saw one on the vid at min 21:45
Great job.
Very entertaining - love the commentary! This video sums up every time I work on my LR3 (I'm in the US) - struts, radiator, water pump, hoses, expansion tank, rebuilt air compressor....What crap engineering Land Rover :-D. Overall a good rig, but does every job have to be so fiddly?
And so rusty!! Thanks for watching mate and all the best with your LR3
Come on back soon Wimpy we all miss you!
Thanks mate!! I’m working on it
perfect job. well done. not many imitate this.
Wow Thanks mate!! appreciate your support
Just replaced my pads discs and shoes all round, about to start the epb module, what a biatch, the spare wheel bracket doesn’t help at all being in the way… and all the bolts for the heat shield rusted to death… time to crack open the carona I think and take it from there 😂
Did you cut the spare wheel bracket off as it’s in the way ? Saw it at beginning of your video but when you were working on the module that bracket wasn’t there
Great videos only criticism I have you need to post links to the parts you use, same on the other landrover videos
Yeah the parts I ordered are not available any more.. I'll try find an alternative tho. Thanks Mate
@@WIMPYbrothers as soon as have than let us now ;)
Entertaining vid, mate. Rusty bits could have used a lick of paint, though ;-)
Funny guy! Well done fixing that.
Great video dude I'm just about to start the dreaded job if you can give me any tips that would be great also what grease did you use for rebuilding the cogs and which silicone for making the module waterproof and can you also tell me how reset the emergency release cable and do I need to adjust the module with multi tool to reconnect brake cables. Many thanks Lee
The man who made EPB wants shooting. whats wrong with a cable. GREAT VIDEO
True story.. Think the guy that designed the EPB for Land Rover should find a new day job!!! Thanks for your support mate
Always open the bleeding screw when pushing caliper pistons back. Pusching brake fluid back might damage master cylinder pressure seal.
Ok thanks for that 👍
This has been so helpful and you, Sir, are inspirational. I fixed the gears no problem but didn't realize there is a whole adjustment and bedding-in procedure. This may have resulted in the spline shaft NOT reconnecting with the force sensor after I used the manual release. May have to go back in :( BTW, I really like your other videos too. I have certainly SUBSCRIBED and recommended my kids and friends also subscribe. THANKS!
Thanks again bro... it’s comments like this which keep me motivated during difficult times...I am looking forward to get back filming and fixing soon 👍 all the best mate
solid video man appreciated
Eres un crak man!!! You are the best💪
Great videos mate👍
That was super cool video, what a fffffffing job.
Thanks mate, Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video 📹 👍
Thanks 🙏🏻
Good work mate👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks 🙏🏻
14:32 cool sweet shop bro
True story 👍
Did you have a "tank/reservoir" just in front of your epb back plate? 2008 lr3 with mine... Either way, thanks for adding and getting me started!
Excellent job. My son has the same problem on his range rover. One question before we attack it. How did you make the car so secure on axle stands, because it's a huge lump of metal on those stands.
Really good video
Thanks mate
Brilliant video top bloke
Great Video mate. I tried to adjust my park brake yesterday and now it’s kaput. Goneskis. Do you think i could roll the unit over like you without detaching the cable from the calipers?
It should do yeah… you’ll see the cable is a job not worth entertaining . Good luck 👍
Lol no homo man but I like your vibe man haha seems like a good person and great video by the way man keep up the good content and energy 👏 👍 👌
Thanks mate that means a lot!! Appreciate your support 👍
I have still yet to do mine. You know when they fail, they fail with the damn brake engaged, like mine did on a trail. They are supposed to release under force - nope. I ended up cutting both cables with bolt cutters just to be able to get going again. If I do repair, I'll need to buy a whole new $900 unit.
fredbrackely Ahhh man!! Did you try the emergency release? You can see me feed the emergency cable in my video into the centre console.. 🤔
You can buy the cables separate.
Not sure about the cables... I know they are really hard to remove from the chassis. Search for a channel called WE ARE BIG KIDS he did a good video for EPB modules replacement 👍
I wonder if one could do away with the EPB all together with a classic lever hand brake ?
An EPB has very little to share in true Land Rover spirit I think, and it’s a nightmare to fix.
My sympathies mate. No wonder mechanics or Land Rover charge so much, the sheer hours of labour involved.
Great vid. You convinced me, not buy a Disco 3. I wonder, if the Disco 4 is much better in terms of reliability and durability. I wouldn't like to buy a car twice - firstly from seller and secondly from the parts shop.
Can you twist/turn EPB module around without disconnecting the brake cables on each side.
Do you have a link for the EPB replacement gears? Great vid. Thanks for this
Will look in to it for you mate 👍
@@WIMPYbrothers just happened to me as well so those gears would help me out as well. If you get a link shared across that would be fab mate 👍
God, I still have nightmare's when I hear that noise.
Lincolnshire Poacher Ha! Yeah me too 😱 what a noise it is too!!
Don't be a bell and use a grinder without a guard. Your gf will hate you if you lose your finger work.
Also, if the gears are wracked, there might be some added resistance within the cables or brake calipers.
Replace those or clean and lube with red rubber grease
Car manufacturers don't make cars. well they kind of do but they make cars so they can make money on selling parts.
My advice is always buy 20 years old vehicles.
You can get some real good deals and get work completed the right way if not do the work yourself as older cars are incredibly easy to work on, you just need to use a disc guard on your grinder and you're all set to go.
Hummm, who's music was that? I loved it...
Nice video...
How is the disco4 behaving?
It's good... had to just replace the EPB pads and give it a service. I'll be going through all my vids shortly listing all the tracks etc. If you have any in mind let me know the timing when the tracks on and i'll share the link
@@WIMPYbrothers thanks for replying brow...
Following all your videos... They are quite informative and interesting to see.
Hi mate, did you mark the thread when you took it out so it was positioned correctly when you put back in ?
No I just wound it out to the max and put it back. You need to give as much slack as possible. At least that’s what I found
Hey, thx for the vid
(20:10) what do you mean by "setting the actuator? What's 414 rotation?
What is the bedding procedure you used?
I got 2011 and bought 2006 hand break module for is that fit
Hi. I have the same problem with my car. I thought maybe the parking brakes shoes is rusted but it's probably the module?
If it makes that crazy noise then it probably is the same. If not then you can try change the EPB pads as they start to fall apart inside the drum. Good luck mate!
thanks for your video only that I have a 2012 range rover sport and when I removed the spare wheel I found a metal flange you can't practically see the EBD control unit do you know if on mine it can be elsewhere ? thank you
hi quick question.did you lower the suspension when you did this or is you raise it ?
This is one of the worst jobs on this car in my opinion! For such a small thing, the effort of disassembly is immense! But good job!
Hi when you did this, did you not take off the the break lines too
Quick question, would you need to remove the discs, callipers and cables if you were just repairing the cogs and removing only the Johnson???
Yeah unfortunately as you need to disconnect the cables to have the slack needed to remove the Johnson but Moore so to put it back... it’s a pain!!
There might be a way of doing it?? By pulling the emergency release maybe?? You could get the Johnson out... not sure about back in??
@@WIMPYbrothers not looking forward to doing it. 🤢
It’s hard mate.... just leave as much slack in the motor when putting it in.
@@WIMPYbrothers Would just disconnecting the cables from the shoes be enough slack? Without actually removing the cables from the hub?
How was Lucia? When are you planning to rebuild her engine and body to OEM specs?
Good question?. Well... it looks like in France we heading back to lock down so I should have plenty time on my hands 🙌 but where to start?? I’m in Germany now picking up a new project for the channel so I’ve got my work cut out 😅😅
@@WIMPYbrothers take care bro. Looking on future Lucia build.
Did you program something wit the OBD tool?
It’s not Landcover it’s probably Johnson control to be blamed for shitty plastic and not doing proper DFMEA.
Great video thank you, I’m having issues with parking brake as well. I can’t even hear the motor trying to engage it or disengage it and have an error message of failure. Will this sort it out please
Couldn’t say mate… no noise makes me think it’s blocked completely or motor is busy?? Cables stuck??
Thank you, least that’s a few options for the mechanic next week
Where did you source the replacement cogs for the EPB?
Any one know what the average cost is at a garage need it to pass mot but the guy I baught the car from had a pack done on it and I think had it disconnected
15:20. Sorry but why did you need to change the brake cables? Where they rusted/split?
I didn’t change any cables? Only the cogs ⚙️ in the module were changed
4:35
Did you cut that hole? Lol my 2009 LR3 doesn't have that access hole
What paste are you using?
Hey nice video
I also have a discover 3 and the yellow light only turns on when i'm on the move
is it the same problem ??
or is it something else??
I am also a mechanic like you but with little experience😂😊
Not sure about that one mate.. There are some great FB groups for the LR3 that i'm sure can help you out. Join the groups and ask the questions, I find them really helpful for all sorts of issues. And lets face it Disco's have many of them!!
nice video! so, where can i find the reference of the of the cog? i need to buy all of them because they are broken ;(. if somone know where can i bught them please let me know
What size bolts?
N13 8x20mm bolts
Great video thanks!!! Can you send me pleas the eBay link for the pieces?
Thanks
Hi mate... The item i ordered is no longer available but this link will take you to similar items : www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sis.html?_nkw=LAND+ROVER+RANGE+ROVER+SPORT+DISCOVERY+3+4+PARKING+BRAKE+ACTUATOR+REPAIR+GEARS&_id=173975869839&&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l46251
@@WIMPYbrothers
Thanks
Wonder if you can get metal cogs to upgrade the mechanism and reliability
Apparently so but I could find any?
Couldn’t even
Do you need to remove the cables?
To give you the slack needed. If not the EPB is under tension and you can’t remove the module or unlatch the module from the cables
What sealant did you use?
It was a loctite gaskets sealant
Nice video bro.
Can you just get it done?
Want to learn how I can mine too.
By looking your head 99% of the time
Is not going to help me.
Need me to hold your hand? Don’t be a wimp and have a go. Or pay someone?
Why could they not just have used an old school handbrake?? None of this nonsense
Apparently!! It’s because some people can’t pull the lever with enough force? To stop a big car.. Porsche go for the foot brake but to be honest the module design is just not strong enough. LR dropped the ball there... thanks for watching!! 👍
good on you for tackling it. stupid little job that was engineered into a vehicle for no real reason! Really? Are we getting that lazy we cant use a hand-brake anymore ourselves? Another reason not to buy newer LR products :-(
gizsealface true story mate!! EPB’s?? Why?? Thanks for watching 👍 much appreciated
@@WIMPYbrothers Vehicle roll away the subject of my M Eng dissertation. Lots of folk can't get it on hard enough and the disc shrinks away from the pad when cooling causing it to roll back. Not such a problem on autos but one that needed solving! Hence EPB!
‘Such crap design Land Rover, come on...” you sound surprised! There is a reason I dont Work for them anymore!
Andrew Britton yeah the 4 was much better but easily the worst cars I’ve worked on... made good money on them both so maybe I’d get another as I know my way around them now but??? A pain!! Shame really 😏 great cars when they work
Andrew Britton Future Mini rebuild?? Followed by Mini rally?? 🤔🤔
@@WIMPYbrothers do it. Ive got a 2000 Cooper Sport for you to rebuild. You cant sell it after though. Just drive to Turin to drive on the Fiat Factory.
@@WIMPYbrothers getting the Disco 5?
let me guess....you're about 5ft 7 or 8? You must be to have that much bounce in your step 😝
Correct 👍
@@WIMPYbrothers thought so. You remind of a mate of mine. In fact you’re personality twins.
Great content tho man! 💪🏽💪🏽
All that for a bit of shoddy plastic! Daaaaiim!
Yep! Painful experience, but thank god it worked
I'll just repair it with Land Rover to keep its papers official
hi
😳🥺😏
Terrible car. Hated every moment.
Utterly crap engineering from Landrover.