Daytona USA 2 Battle on the Edge & Power Edition - Arcade Review
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2020
- I take a look at both releases of Daytona USA 2 that were for Sega's Model 3 arcade hardware.
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Episode Notes:
1. It was infuriating at times trying to set up the controller for this. I never got the sensitivities right and it shows in the gameplay. I was actually rather decent at this game in the arcade, but here, I never finished above 4th place in any of the tracks. The default controller settings in Supermodel are absolutely unplayable.
2. Despite the quality of this one, subsequent Daytona releases were all based on the first game. Daytona 2's assets was never reused in anything except the Xbox port of Outrun 2.
3. I honestly believe that Sega dropped the Dreamcast port of this because they couldn't do a close enough approximation of it. The DC was powerful for its time, but the Model 3 Step 2.1 was simply out of its league.
4. I do prefer the first Daytona's music, but I still find this one curiously enjoyable. It has to be Takenobu Mitsuyoshi, however. That dude can make the silliest lyrics passable.
5. If you want to play this I recommend really reading up on Supermodel. You can get it running pretty nice, but the process can be quite a bit of work for someone who doesn't have a lot of experience with it.
6. You may notice there is some hitching in the video, almost as if the emulator is struggling. This is a peculiar issue that isn't in my source capture. Between the original capture, the editing software, and CZcams's processing, this hitching showed up. I tried 3 different edits/uploads and they all did it. I have no clue why. - Hry
If there were to exist a collection with OutRun 1&2, Daytona 1&2, Sega Rally 1&2 and Scud Race on modern day consoles, I would be on that like a madman.
Sega touring car heck throw Le Mans 24 in there and that’ll be the perfect release.
Agreed, I'd buy that immediately
"SEGA racing classics collection"...
There's been talk of it ps5 and series x would run them great with the SSD and the power they have under the hood😊
Sigue soñando
Daytona 2 and Scud Race not getting ported anywhere is the biggest tragedy of Sega for me.
SAME! what a couple of terrible missed opportunities for Sega. Yet again, Sega and their fans fall victim to Sega's litany of terrible choices. :/
Both needed to be Dreamcast launch titles
yep. I say it all the time. WTF. I have memories in 96 of putting in a dollar into Sega Super GT (Scud Race) and being soo blown away.
The tragedy is people not knowing about emulators, how good they have become and playing the actual arcade games..not a port.
Warped Polygon has a channel on a super easy and quick set up guide for the Super Model 3 emulator.
He has done all the hours of hard work with controller configurations and what not as well as links to files you need. Except roms of course.
I am playing Daytona 2, Scud, Sega Rally 2 etc...increased to 2560 x 1600 with wide screen support on a handheld gaming PC.
Yes. Thank Hod for the Supermodel emulator. Although not perfect it’s great !!!
We need a Daytona USA collection for home consoles, that's for sure. Play this beautiful arcade on Nintendo Switch would be spectacular.
Sure but if it was Switch only it would be an epic fail.
PS4, PS5, Xbox one, Xbox series X, and Nintendo switch.
I agree, the indoor dome had more personality and looked more impressive.
It really did. I understand Sega's appeal to NASCAR fans, but that redesign just sucked the life right out of that gorgeous track.
IMO, they should have kept the dome for the Beginner track, but added a standard NASCAR oval, Scud Race Super Beginner style. Same with the lazy NASCAR track in Daytona Championship the other year, strangely...
Didn't they finally get the license to use the actual Daytona International Speedway for the first track? The layout was always Daytona, I get why they would have done that. If you're into NASCAR it would be cool to see the speedway in the game
@@TK1s_Big_Love Lol just realised the lazy NASCAR track you're talking about in Championship IS Daytona International Speedway... After all these years they finally got the license to use it and now fans are complaining. That's so ironic 🤣🤣🤣
@@blakasmurf It's not Daytona International Speedway though, is it? Their layouts are different, that's my point. It's just a reskin of the Beginner Course (with a remixed, non-original music track) and NASCAR branding.
They could have done almost anything for the new courses and *they used exactly the same track layouts*. Lazy (from a design perspective at least).
Anybody who ever had the privilege of playing this in the arcade, specially on those moving seats machines with the force feedback steering wheel, know how unbelievably ahead of its time this game trully is. It's almost impossible to believe this game came out in 1998, it was absolutelly the best looking game of its time, and it would take some years for the visuals to actually be surpassed. This game is, simply put, amazing.
I did! It’s unforgettable! What an adrenaline rush it was always a teenager
Our arcade had 8 cabs next to each other, battle on the edge and later power edition.
Always used the phantom car did times marubaku would be jealous of.
The stages and presentation looks incredible, huge shame we never got that Dreamcast port.
They prefered to go with Daytona 2001 (which is a great game anyway...). A perfect Daytona 2 port would have been theoretically possible but practically Model 3 conversions were more complicated due to deep hardware differences. I think they created Naomi just to align arcade technology to the Dreamcast and cancel those problems (with big success).
@@charlie_oblu8351 Daytona 2001 was a great game once you adjusted to the handling. Gorgeous looking and sounded great. Highly recommended
It's a shame we never got ANY port. And only even got good emulation a few years ago. This one is begging for a remastered release. I'm still hopeful for a HD trilogy with Daytona 1 and SCUD Race some day
@@Noobsaibot21
The fact it's been over 20 years and we still haven't seen any sign of it one is terrible. Sega completely ignores it's arcade legacy it seems like.
@@Noobsaibot21 Sega can't make SCUD (or Sega Super GT depending on which region you're from) because all the sponsor logos and car manufacturer licenses have since expired. They can definitely make straight ports of Daytona 1 and 2, and 3 to PC and consoles.
Okay, the music in here is absolutely my jam, I love it. Both the St. James and Mitsuyoshi versions are fantastic.
Yeah I like Daytona 2 OST much more than the original.
The Graphics
The Music
The Gameplay
The Replayability
This game is literally arcade perfection.
I played this game so so much in the arcades and it still to this day remains the most impressive arcade game I've played in terms of wow factor. Amazing!
The fact it's not been officially released outside of the arcades is a crime to gaming. Great video.
Still waiting for that Daytona 2 port!
You and me both.
It will probably unlikely happen as it will probably require the game’s original source code.
Same...
@@fcukugimmeausername Arcade perfect Sega Rally 1 is on PS2
@@fcukugimmeausername bundled with sega rally 2006 ntsc-J. Almost arcade perfect. Its even got 480P support. Just no link option unfortunetly so, you will still need an emulator if you want multiplayer in this game.
This, SCUD Race, and arcade perfect versions of Sega Rally '95 and Virtua Racing (for people without a Nintendo Switch) need to be in a collection for current gen and PC.
I LOVE how the car vibrates and shakes... really amps up the sense of speed.
Yep 100% I can literally feel the arcade machine
Omg this music is so nostalgic. It was either at the ice rink, Keglers bowling or star base alpha. This reminds me of middle school birthday parties
I saw one at the Cortlanes bowling alley.
A full 10 - 16 multiplayer race with the music blasting out sounded so incredible it makes you go insane with happiness! My gosh, I have so much glorious memories of this game!!
Graphically, still holds up today imo..
I remember when I first saw this back in 1998. It was the first game to have "" modern " 3d graphics
Gentlemen, start your Saturns, Dreamcasts, or computers. Hell, start them all.
And your emulators mostly.
@@Chalkaspis
Sadly yes. (Not because emulators are horrible just because Sega should be doing this game justice not doing it dirty.) The fact Sega hasn't released this (as with so many of their games) in any other form at this point is ridiculous. It's a racing game based on Daytona how would that not sell immediately in US.
Don't forget your Xbox 360s!
I like how Sega Model 3 arcade games have a strong GameCube era look to them.
Wow, not even Dreamcast Daytona looks as good as this (and that was one helluva great version too).
If you've told me this is on Steam, I'd have believed you without any doubts.
@@fcukugimmeausername You had to reduce the sensitivity to very low to get better controls but still, indeed, the controls were very unappealing.
The controls are perfect if your using the racing wheel
It was not made by AM2 so we can forgive them.
It was a very difficult game too
Jesus THAT soundtrack!
Always made me lose the plot when I hear that soundtrack. It's FIRE!!
I couldn't agree more. Oh and sorry to the fans but Daytona 1, EAT YOUR HEART OUT! 🎸😎🤘
Would love to get the original Daytona and this one along with a Virtua Fighter collection on Switch and the other systems. Virtua Racing was a joy to play again via Sega Ages, especially upscaled like it was.
I love both, Dennis and Takenobu's tracks equally. They both sound so good!
Definitely would like these Model 2 & 3 games to come home! Come on SEGA give us something worthwhile from your back catalog!
Damn, you're right it still looks great in 2020
Sega should honestly just release a 4 volume arcade pack. vol1 super scalers, vol2 Model 1 and Titan arcade games, vol3 Model 2 games, and finally volume 4 Model 3 and Naomi games.
I love the Mega drive, but those games have had compilation for every new generation.
This ☝🏼💯
They should've released some sort of SEGA arcade history series, kinda like AGES, but with packs. Not just 4, but instead encompassing the entire arcade games SEGA had released to at least the Lindbergh era or RingEdge era.
Imagine having access to games from the electromechanical era like Periscope, to TTL machines Monaco GP and Fonz, to early microprocessor games like Flicky and Action Fighter, to early scaler games like SubRoc 3D, Turbo, and Zoom 909, to System series and Super Scaler games (System 16 to System H1), then onto the Model series and ST-V games, Naomi 1, 2, Hikaru, and finally the Lindbergh and RingEdge 1 and 2 games. Add some extras too like the Laserdisc games.
Give a free version which has 1 games from each series as a demo, then sell each pack as DLC for like 10 bucks a pack. Easy money for SEGA.
Do this for their best console games, and then wonder why SEGA has monetary issues for the past 20 years or so.
This, but replace Vol 1 super scalers (there are many ways to play most System x/y/z games) with System 32 (Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder, Rad Mobile, Title Fight, etc) and I'm in.
@@cbarger2327 Why replace if both can be added? Add the seldom mentioned System H1 too.
@@ZX3000GT1 True, true. Might as well throw in Model 1 as well!
It was so impressive how Sega really put efforts in the music of its games!
I really REALLY wish that SEGA could create some type of Current-Gen or better yet Next-Gen compilation for all of the arcade releases of Daytona USA. It does NOT deserve to be just another nostalgic footnote amongst SEGA's back catalog of classic franchises that are in all honesty unfortunately neglected more and more as time has subsequently continued to pass.
DAYTONAAA FOREVER!!!
Wow, never got to play this. Hunter mode. Great review Sega Lord X!
DAYTONAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
LET'S GO AWAY
(Let's go away...)
*DAYTONAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!*
ROLLING STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRT!!!
Dude, this game looks awesome! Can't believe I missed it. Gonna play it today.
Great summary of the game, and I agree, it's a masterpiece and a damn shame that Daytona 2 never made it home. I'd add that the arcade experience sitting in that custom hydraulic car frame was the pinnacle of immersion - that made a great game unforgettable. I played it often over the years at a local theater until they eventually got rid of it a few years ago, I sure miss it, Daytona 2 was unreal.
Give Scud Race a try! Also on the model 3.
Scud Race is amazing! I played it so much back in the days at my local arcade.
@@peachflavored Same. I grew up with that game. Favorite Sega racer on all time.
Known in the USA as Sega Super GT. Another game that did not receive a home port...
Yeah, awsome Scud Race ... But be aware, SEGA don't have any licence any more ... Sega ages blocked to sega own titles saddly
I LOVED this game to death. Any time I saw it in public or in an arcade, I'd go straight to it.
I'm so sad it's never been ported. Thank goodness for emulators.
Here here, bro!! I FEEL YA.
A perfect emulator can be developed for the model 3, also an 1 to 1 port. But the experience of seating in that awesome cabinet, the force feedback and the sound (it's a BLAST!), yeah...give me the arcade cabinet xD
That dome and the city look incredible with a huge sense of scale, thanks to that draw distance. Crazy that this was from 1998.
They did a hell of a job with virtua racing on the switch capturing all that sega arcade goodness.Now I am just hoping they will release Daytona :)
I spent so many quarters in the arcades playing Daytona some of my best childhood memories.
I'd kill for a Daytona collection.
I love to see a Daytona Collection or an Arcade1up with Scud Race
Count me in that too.
I remember being in high school and winning a 30 player Daytona 2 knockout tournament. Won a Dreamcast, Daytona T-Shirt, mug, cap and other goodies. Was a good time.
One of the best arcade racers of all time, with a soundtrack to match. This game is an unmitigated legend.
As far as I know, neither of the two versions of Daytona USA 2 nor SCUD Race came to Colombia. And I might be wrong about it, but I never saw any of them on the local arcades I usually went to play. This also pisses me off quite a lot because the first Daytona USA is my all-time favorite arcade and I really really want Sega to bring their best arcade games to modern consoles and PC. Sega, if you're reading all these comments, please do yourselves and your long-time fans a favor and bring your awesome arcade games to modern platforms. Have a good one everyone!
Man, sucks I can only hit the thumbs once. Great vid. Love the content you cover, and you make it even better with your dope and on point narration. Don't change a thing. You absolutely kill it in my opinion. Thank you SLX!!
I love your videos so much!! Please never stop making them, keep up the good work my friend.
Loving the content, surely somebody at Sega realises the value of all of these games left on Arcade or Saturn
Speaking of Saturn, I now have my Terraonion Mode installed and have a lot of games to catch up on being from the UK, starting with Astal
It's finally (mostly) coming to consoles!
I remember the first time I played this game was at my local arcade(sadly it's no longer here) and I loved it. It's amazing how the graphics still hold up. Sega was ahead of it's time with some of there games. This game along with sega super gt and marvel vs capcom were the only games I played the most at that arcade. Awesome video as always!!!
I’ve been playing Daytona USA 2 in Like A Dragon Gaiden and came back to re-watch your video. So glad that there’s finally an official way to play it on consoles. :) I really miss the music from the first game and the beginner track in Power Edition doesn’t have the same charm, but the other tracks are great in terms of the visuals+layout and the handling and sense of speed are all right in the spirit of the original. Been waiting for this for years. :) Would love to see you do a video on the Sega arcade games in the Yakuza games.
My 2nd favorite Model 3 game of all time. Still will sit and pop quarters in a cabinet of this, no matter which version -- BOTE or PE. Listening to the opening attract theme, especially the Dennis version, never gets old to me.
I happen to own a Battle on the Edge ROM board for my Model 3 Step 2 stack, but I can assure you AM2 really developed this game like a tank; if the CPU board in your Model 3 has corrosion on it, the game most likely won't boot and gives you a "Backup RAM" error. It is so common on this game where it won't boot but other ROM boards on the platform will, plus it uses its own security board.
Love this game
So glad you covered this game. The closest we got to getting this at home was the small section of track they put in Outrun 2.
Totally agree with you SLX. The first track is MUCH better in the "dome version" with waterfalls and all. The Nascar style track looks so boring, and completely lost the wow-effect of the original.
A masterpice! One of my favorite racing games. I used to play this game with my friends. 🎮✌👍
This game is perfect, I still playing it at my local arcade after 20 years!
I love you for making this video for giving some new life to DUSA2
Great video SLX!! wish this was on the switch so I can play it anywhere,, again Sega leaving money on the table, this is is getting beyond old. Mitsuyoshi-san all the way!!!
I just watched a Digital Foundry video talking that this game will finally be ported to home consoles!
Been playing it on my Xbox Series X. If you skip the cutscenes in Like A Dragon Gaiden, you can get to the arcade to play it in less than an hour. It’s a good a time. :) The intermediate, expert and mixed tracks are a lot of fun and the graphics are good, too. It’s a shame that the beginner track isn’t as visually interesting as its counterpart in the original and that the music isn’t on the same level, but it’s still thrilling to finally be playing it after so long. :)
Dennis St James fucking ROCKS this sound track and wipes the floor with the Japanese original. I get the original Daytona soundtrack was iconic but for the sequel it just doesn’t cut it. Dennis makes it work and makes me pumped to race!
I prefer this game over the first. I spent an entire day playing this at my local mini golf place near my house. Great review and great game.
I'll be rewatching this a few times, love seeing the footage. I played Daytona 2 only a handful of times BITD.
Flawless review! Nuff said. Keep up the excellent vids man. Subbed....
So many memories
I dunno why but I appreciate these graphics more then new racing games it leaves more to your imagination and still looks good
I’m thankful to have one of the deluxe cabs for this game at my local bowling alley. Definitely a ton of fun, but I’ve never been the best at it.
Another well made episode thank you Sega Lord X
Daaaaaaytona! You didn’t even have to see the cabinet to know the arcade you were at had one of the original cabinets. Kids today won’t respect the beauty that it is. It doesn’t hold up against the Gran Turismo and Forza 7s of today. However, I’ll personally never forget seeing this in the arcades. It looked so real back then. Polygon graphics were the wave of the future and the speed at which this game ran was amazing. The original Daytona USA had many ports, but none of them lived up to what the arcade looked and felt like. And yes… it’s about time Sega rebooted this series. I’d love to see this redone with 20+ tracks and the ability to unlock new vehicles. Yes… not a new concept for racing games today… but having this in the Daytona franchise would be amazing.
I would LOVE to play this. ❤️
It’s such a waste that Sega doesn’t bring more of their arcade games home. I love Virtua Racing on Switch, and Model 2 games on PS3.
Also I prefer the American singer. Has a great 80s metal vibe. Like it would fit in Bloodsport.
I still honestly feel like the arcade genre is still something super unrepresented and honestly still just as important as the classic home Console games, thank you so much for keeping them alive
Excellent video!
God this game still looks gorgeous. Its criminal that it hasn't been brought home yet
Arcade1Up needs to make a arcade cabinet that includes a collection of all of the classic SEGA racing games including Daytona USA 2.
I strongly, strongly recommend seeing 'Warped Polygon's' channel if you want to get playing these games quickly NOW!
He has made a SUPER easy 'Super Model 3 emulator set up guide' - and you'll (I have anyway) be playing Daytona 2, Sega Rally 2, Scud Racer, Ski Champ, Star Wars trilogy and all their versions etc..in no time.
He's gone through the hard work of making the controller configuration files and links to the necessary emulator and support files. (except roms and the gui) as well as guides on setting light guns, controller tips etc...
Also
If you are just getting into emulation or just want to play these sega arcade games, invest a little time in setting a front end like 'Playnite' as it can present all the arcade games and make them easier to launch at a click of a button.
These games don't need to stay retro in the past, when you can live them right now!
Btw, I agree with Sega X Lord.
Daytona USA 2 BE's first track is more interesting visually, but PE has a little more features.
Kind of wish why didn't just Sega combine both together instead.
These games need to be released on Steam.
This game is simply magnificent. A hall of fame quality arcade racer deserving to be lavished on current consoles.
Thank you
Just the music brings back so many memories.
Sega is the best! Always has been, always will be!!!!!!!!!!
Would love to see a Dayton Deluxe pack for current gen system that had the 3 tracks from the first game, the 2 Dreamcast exclusive tracks and finally the 3 tracks from Daytona 2!
Sega lord x! Daytona usa 2 is coming to us as sega racing classic 2 as hidden arcade game in like a dragon man who erased his name!
But blue flame screen indicates it might be “power edition” only. Please write sega to ask for the bote indoor forest dome oval track!!
Yup - it’s the Power Edition only. Perhaps we can get BOTE in a future game. The indoor forest dome is a lot more visually interesting than the oval in Power Edition so I’d like that. But it’s still nice that we finally have a console port of Daytona USA 2 after all this time - I’ve been playing it a lot. :)
Great episode SegaX!
I just picked up a Sega Super GT cab and would love it if you did an in depth review of that game’s bells and whistles. Just a suggestion. Thanks again!
great content as always, SEGA has an amazing back catalogue of games that never got released in home versions. Making mini versions of systems is a way they can milk the cash cow, but i'd prefer a proper release for already existing systems.
This is amazing, I just love Daytona.
I remember playing Daytona 2. I played it at my sister's birthday party at the bowling alley in Cortland it was hella fun.
I played it at Jillians a few times
The power edition challenge course was Also on Outrun 2 for the original Xbox as bonus stage 2 and also the SCUD Race Tracks excluding super beginner were also included as bonus stage 1
Great! Thank you
I have this masterpiece running in 4k on the model 3 emulator. Breathtaking !
It's a shame it never made it to home consoles. Great Review!
Daytona USA will always be classic to me shame I didn't get to play with these versions
Mitsuyoshi version all the way.
The challenge track in DAYTONA USA 2 PE is also known as Outrun Track
Your vids are always good, but man... I'm about to install this on my laptop and play it! Thanks!
Those new songs are boss af
Should also mention that Reb Beach, guitarist of Winger and current Whitesnake guitarist, did the guitar parts for the song "I Can Do It", which was featured in the Theme Park course.
Could you imagine a Sega Ages Racer pack with this the original Daytona, the Sega Rally games and virtua racing🤤
Putting SEGA's ass to the Fire, I love it. Couldn't agree more, They need to start dipping into their legendary 3D arcade titles already and first party Saturn fare on a new Sega Ages compilation or they're going to be relegated to the dustbin of history just like Atari.
Thank you Sega Lord X for another great video. I agree about you saying that Sega should bring back Sega Ages series for Nintendo Switch but this time, games like Daytona USA & this sequel, Virtua Fighter 1, 2, 3, & 4, Sega Rally, Virtua Cop and maybe House of the Dead and release them to other modern consoles. And yeah if Sega is listening by releasing those games to home consoles especially Nintendo Switch by way of Sega Ages series, we would be very happy & Sega would make good money out of them.
Don't know why, but i love this unique car shaking!
I recently got a Logitech steering wheel and these games are a blast to play on it (using Supermodel). Force feedback works and feels great too.
Now we finally have a home port of Daytona 2 (Sega Classic Racing 2) within the in-game arcade of the latest Yakuza game Like a Dragon Gaiden: Man Who Erased His Name and it’s an excellent emulated port. That, along with the decent Model 3 fighting game Fighting Vipers 2. I’ve also been enjoying Motor Raid in the virtual arcade. Had not played it before and it’s pretty fun. VF2 is also a good one in the virtual arcade as always.
My friends were Ridge Racer guys and good GAWD I remember salivating at the possibilities of a port while owning my Dreamcast.
Yeah, SEGA has really done all SEGA fans rotten along with themselves. The best and most idiotic game company in the world all at the same time!
@@EAprima I think the reason behind that as a whole is because of domestic disputes within SEGA. SOJ couldn't get along with SOA. Both sides just couldn't stay on the same page. Not a good look if you expect fans and the industry to support what you bring to the table.
I remember my buddy and I would play this and other Sega racing games at the arcade, grab some Burger King and play the same games late into the night at his place on Saturn and Dreamcast. Good lord, those were the days.
Wonderful video on what looks to be a very enjoyable game. I never got to play it. I only ever saw the first game in arcades, even many years later. And Daytona 2 does still look great, even without ray tracing, which I am told is a thing that I am supposed to like. A real shame this never got ported, as it would make the control situation better than what you described with the emulator. I would absolutely be okay with them releasing the Daytona games permanently as Sega Racing Classic. Regarding the beginner track redesign, if they went through the trouble of creating new graphics, they should have made it a simple oval, which I think would be fun, and added it on top of the original three. The Dennis music sounded really good. I like that they didn't have the vocals too high. I think that's why the Daytona vocal music always worked, because the vocals kind of blended into the music.
I really love Sega arcade racers of the day. The game mechanics of Daytona are a perfect blend of realistic and drifty. There is some drifting, but it's not all over the place. I also love how Sega set the chase camera angles. The camera stays with the track rather than being locked to the car, which makes it much more pleasant to view as the camera is much smoother in games like Daytona.
Great video as always. Would you be able to do Video review of James Pond 2 Codename Robocod? I absolutely loved that game as a kid and would be great if you could review it. Thanks for bringing us these trips down memory Lane. 👏🏻
It's a brilliant Sega racing game. 😀👍🎮