Noam Chomsky opposes cultural boycott of Israel | UpFront
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- "If you're an activist it's second nature to ask what are the consequences of my choices, not I'll do it because it makes me feels good," US academic Noam Chomsky tells Mehdi Hasan in this web extra.
The Boycott Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) pro-Palestinian movement has called for the boycott not only of Israeli made goods, but also of cultural and educational products and institutions.
While Chomsky supports BDS campaigns "aimed at the occupied territories", he says he is opposed to those "actions against Israel itself".
"Just as I do not suggest boycotting Harvard University and my own university, even though the United States is involved in horrific acts. […] You might as well boycott the United States," the academic adds.
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let him talk! don't put the words you like to hear in his mouth1
I was about to say the exact same thing.
You do it in your discussions too, everyone does that at some point to fit their narrative.
"I am opposed to any appearance in Israel that is used for nationalistic or other propaganda purposes to cover up its occupation and denial of Palestinian human rights. I’ve been involved in activities to hold Israel accountable for its international law violations since before the BDS movement took shape. While I have some tactical differences with the BDS movement, I strongly support the actions and continue to participate in them." - Noam Chomsky
So to be clear, Chomsky sides with BDS in principle of holding Israel accountable, but not in strategy.
Noam has been exposed.
Noam is full ofsh**t, he's controlled opposition
Memo to Mehdi Hasan: Stop interrupting Chomsky!
Note to you, Chomsky is wrong on this issue and hence should be called out. The policy of occupation of Palestine is a result of Israeli policy.
@@PolaOpposite Just like the policy of overthrowing regimes around the world, facilitating military coups around the world, giving military aid to rogue regimes, waging wars of aggression and installing despotic dictators in foreign countries to exploit said country's natural resources is America's policy.
Same thing can be said of the UK and France. If you start this, then this cycle will never end. As bad as Israel is, USA and UK are probably even worse. You would end up boycotting pretty much every single country in the world except for some small democracies like New Zealand, Singapore, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Monaco etc which is obviously impractical. Which is why Chomsky said BDS movement has to be principled and only target settlement products.
@@eugenedebbs2189 Laissez-faire is not going to produce equity. Slippery slope arguments are on shaky ground, but even if you were correct about that slippery slope, where there is wrong it should be called out.
@@PolaOpposite Calling out does not equal boycotting or sanctions for what should be obvious reasons.
Can we all at least agree that the interviewer’s style was abysmal? Let the Professor finish a sentence, irrespective of whether you agree with him. Sheesh.
I was thinking the same thing. I like Mehdi Hassan but he did a terrible job interviewing Professor Chomsky.
"You might as well boycott the US" correct, you might as well
So go ahead. Start a cultural boycott of Harvard and Yale. But if you can't be bothered and just want to focus on Israel, ask yourself why.
@@TheKiddy3 Because he's a antisemitic.
@@ernestamoore4385 Are you seriously going to use that discourse killer? There needs to be a word used to describe virtue signaling from hard line Israel supporters saying antisemitism that's analogous to the Godwin's law and Hitler. I'm Jewish and support BDS in every conceivable way. So am I antisemitic? If you support in injustice anywhere, you support injustice everywhere. It's that simple. And as the Bookings Institute has pointed out, Americans are increasingly critical of Israel.
"The oft repeated idea that Israel is a “vibrant democracy” is an absurd one. Unless the qualification is purely symbolic, there can be no “democratic Jewish (Christian, Muslim, white) state”. In the case of Israel, the “Jewishness” is very far from symbolic. There is no need to repeat here what I’ve written in the past, documenting extensively Israel’s discriminatory practices." - Noam Chomsky
@@PolaOpposite Chomsky does not support capital BDS, because they have an antisemitic agenda.
@@Jdonovanford That's not the reason why Chomsky does not support BDS which targets Israel itself. The reason is if you target Israel for carrying out war crimes, violating international law and other atrocities, the exact same thing can be said of the US, UK and France. If you start this, then this cycle will never end. As bad as Israel is, USA and France are probably even worse. You would end up boycotting pretty much every single country in the world except for some small democracies like New Zealand, Singapore, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Monaco etc which is obviously impractical. That is why Chomsky said BDS movement has to be principled and only target the settlement products and universities.
There’s a Canadian children’s book writer, Elise Gravel, who is being accused of antisemitism for taking side with Palestinians. It’s ridiculous because her books have nothing wrong with them, but Jewish libraries are pulling them since the author has raised awareness. She’s now suing them.
Ughh, I can´t stand Mehdi Hasan. He just keeps interrupting him.
When you interview someone you have to stop talking once they begin to answer your question.
😂
Yep but that’s not Mehdi’s style. He frequently badgers people who have the gall to disagree with him. And I generally with his opinions
It’s asking follow ups to clarify and necessary in broadcasts with limited time when you need to get the questions done
No Justice No Peace.
No Justice. No Profts.
In a 4 min and 8 sec clip, I feel like I heard more of the interviewer than the interviewee. Back to journalism school for Mr Hasan. I wont be watching anything with him again, very poor questioning style.
Garbage. The interviewer was just trying to clarify Chomsky's hypocritical dissembling. BDS rules!!!!
john matthews what are you gibbering on about? Don’t be ridiculous.
@@flemhawker9134 Chomsky's refusal to support BDS makes him a Zionist apologist. Simple. Do keep up.
@@johnmatthews8810 Anti-zionists are nonsensical...
I luv the topics that Mehdi covers. But I can’t stand his style.
He is a disgusting, aggressive homophobe. I absolutely hate him. I might agree with some of the things he says of course but he is ultimately an angry bigoted little man.
@@bollywoodoverhollywood8139 chill
@@bollywoodoverhollywood8139 was starting to feel the same after i realized he’s anti-choice 😬
He has a debating style. It works well most of the times till he interviews slow paced persons like Chomsky.
The interviewer is horrible. He keeps wanting to find bright lines, and extreme extrapolations. It felt like was asking questions in a way to generate a soundbite (headline for a tabloid). Ask questions, then LISTEN. And quite trying to put words in your interviewees mouths.
No, Mehdi Hassan is trying to keep Chomsky from making the interview into a mealy-mouthed justification of the ongoing theft of Palestine.
I think his questionings actually helped Chomsky's point be more fleshed out and clear. If you truly care about this matter, those questions are important. I think Chomsky did a good job with his answers.
First you have to tackle the good image they try to portray, once that comes out in the open then you do the 2nd Boycott and I like how many artists have refused to go there.
Mehdi Hasan's style I find offensive. He is rude. He constantly interrupts Prof Chomsky. Hasan continually makes incorrect assumptions that Chomsky has to correct. I would not watch or listen to a Hasan interview again.
Yes, I had to stop watching because he is insufferable.
No no, these are intelligent persons, capable of handling one anothers' speeds. They are of different ages and experience and Chomsky doesn't hide from the young although his university whatever it is is doubtless crammed to the lid with ravenous vampires.
Chomsky is making a very controversial point, toeing the line of liberal Zionism, and he should be challenged on it. His reasoning here is in line with the "two state solution" vision, which is a fiction that will never happen. He relies too literally on the SA parallel here to justify an outdated position.
Rubbish. The interviewer was perfectly justified in trying to cut through Chomsky's dissembling.
VIVA BDS!!!
Yes. Mehdi seems very uncomfortable with this interview.
That must be one of the worst interviewers I’ve ever seen.
you haven't seen a lot then hahaha go back to fox news that should be more convenient to you
I guess he never watched leathal weapon 3 or listened to the song ‘ain’t gonna play sun city’
Can you imagine if the movie company or record label was banned by the USA simply because they made those songs
Let him talk,
Settlement products cannot be distinguished clearly from products within Israel. Any consistent BDS will target Israeli products as well since they are the occupier. For BDS to target ONLY settlement products (from the Occupied West Bank and Gaza) is a useless gesture as such products will be incorporated into commodities sold by Israel - the sort of gesture Chomsky wants. I.e. Chomsky's is a mere pose of Left-wing politics, challenging power in words but not substance. Chomsky will label any effective Left-wing activism as 'Leninist', 'Fascist', 'bureaucratic', 'power-crazed' etc.
@Facts Matter No you boycott all Israeli products or you're an apologist for the Israeli regime.
When South Africa was boycotted (1964--1992) they didn't just ban products made in cities with the most violence against indigenous, they banned all their products. And their sporting teams, their airline and more.
Israel is far worse than South Africa was.
@Libertarian Zionist libertarianism and zionism contradict each other.. you're as horrendous as the closet fascists who are trying to co-opt the anarcho-capitalist communities...
Well hello from the future, where BDS is considered illegal in most of the world. and where Israeli settlements are considered legal according to International Law.
@@randomeststranger please cite sources that state Israeli settlements are considered legal according to international law. I know you can't, but in theory that's what you'd need to do to prove your point
@@randomeststranger since when are the settlements legal under international law? Oh "the future" 😆
This interviewer needs to quit interrupting every 5 seconds, jesus.
Where did Al-Jazeera find this clown?
Which one?
@Youssra Imrani oh، him.
On a side note..
كيف أنتي؟ 😊 أنتي جميلة وكيووت جدا جدا 😊 ياليت استطيع أن أعطيكي عناقات دافئة.
sorry 😅
@Youssra Imrani الجملة الأخيرة لا حاجة أن يقال ،لأنه ليست فيها احترام لأن فيها ظن أن كل من أراد القرب الحب فهو ولد صغير. حاولت أن لا أهتم، لاكن كرجل لازم أخبركي أن لا تنادي الناس بما لا تحبي أن ينادوكي به. لأن طلبي لا يشترط أن يكون بدون زواج..
المهم لا نتطول في هذا، ولا تجيبي على هذا الرد، إنما أردت أن أخبركي ذلك وانتهينا.
I'll tentatively say ok to his ideas about tactics. He and Finkelstein know more about it in their little fingernail than I will ever grasp....and not just Israel/ Palestine and international law but also activism tactics. They were protesting Vietnam and the occupation before I knew who Ho Chi Minh was. Personally, I feel like Israel has forfeited a lot of legitimacy but Im sure he and Finkelatein know more about it
Don’t be so sure. I’ve followed their work and their take on BDS is odd and misguided, considering their corpus of works
@@joesabet2001 I never thought so. I think if you check in with Finkelstein now he will say BDS has a lot more viability today than it did Oct 6, 2023.
I have heard Finkelstein Express his position toward BDS prior to Oct 7 and I thought it was logical and tactically and morally consistent. He based his review on having read 10,000 pages of Gandhi. So again, I'm quite sure he knows more about resistance tactics than me or you. HOWEVER he has granted he was totally wrong about how Gaza would progress/unfold AND that those who shared his thinking about nonviolent march on the separation barriers we're simply mowed down by Israeli psychopaths. My point is I am happy to defer to Finkelstein and Chomsky. They have admitted some of their views were incorrect and have updated them accordingly which is a lot more than can be said for "BDS"".
Let's take a look at bds as currently constituted. We have Ansar Allah fighting American, British, and Israeli warships in the Red Sea and blocking trade and, finally, Turkey joins trade war when it has become politically expedient for Erdogan to act. To me Finkelstein has been clearly correct in his analysis.
@@stevenhines5550 I see what you’re saying, but from what I could scavenge on their BDS comments, I haven’t been convinced. They have a point about boycotting America, etc, but America or Harvard haven’t been carrying out the longest occupation in recorded history. And now with genocide occurring, I don’t see why they’re getting lost in the details of BDS’ charter/principles when the tactics of lower case BDS are sorely needed. BDS has some traction; we can argue Israel’s statehood after the genocide and final end of occupation and sieging
Noam Chomsky is parsing this a bit too much.
I don't agree with Chomsky on this. The stuff made in the settlements is used in products coming from Israel itself there is little distinction.
Then target those products. Eveything nowadays comes in the labels and you can trace down where the factories are. What you say is a lame excuse to target the whole country of Israel.
I hope you also boycott any medical devices and methods created or developed in Israel and every computer chip made by Intel (who's based in Israel), cause otherwise you're just a sad hypocrite. now let me guess that you ARE a huge hypocrite
You do though, because now you are thinking in terms of taegeting
Boycott of Israel should include the arts etc etc. NZ protested against the Spring Bok tour and brought world wide attention to apartheid. That's how you do it!!
Our first duty is what are we doing. Plenty of our businesses profit from aiding the Occupation. Caterpillar provides the massive armored bulldozers used for home demolition. Motorolla provides the biometric monitoring equipment at checkpoints. Bombadier and Veolia are building a lightrail that will connect Settlements to one another and to Israel. And there are plenty more. We need to pressure companies like this to stop aiding and profiting.
Suppose no one supplied them with armored bulldozers because they'll suffer other financial repercussions? That makes the occupation much harder for the IDF.
Electing representatives that wont send them money might not be bad either.
Well this title is extremely missleading
I was also surprised to hear that Bernie Sanders opposes BDS since both are so critical of the Jewish state.
+Alex Olivo Being critical of a Jewish state is completely different than saying there shouldn't be a Jewish state, which is in effect what BDS is saying.
Matt Sezer
You are correct, thanks. Todah rabah.
Matt Sezer in effect a splendid qualifyer, and you had me all warmed up for one at Tom Cruise drops soupcan.
It's possible to be critical Israel without supporting an anti-Semitic movement that aims to destroy Israel. There are many Israelis who criticize Israel.
Bernie is controlled opposition. Don't trust him.
Title is a bit misleading here.
Mehdi Hassan. You can't stop talking right. Shut up and let the man speak.
I support BDS on my personal daily expenditures including US brand/product inview if US strong support to the regime
UTI Possidetis Juris. San Remo. What are those borders? What other nations’ borders don’t follow this rule of international law?
Hey Mehdi, I like you well enough, but STOP INTERRUPTING.
Great work from Mehdi as he isnt afraid to challange chomsky.
Stop interrupting the man SMH
You ask a guy a question, he educates you first then proceeds to answer the question. My Guy.
Of course - he was Epsteined
@dream_prophecies Or chomskyed...
Chomsky doesn't understand apartheid and agreed wholeheartedly to boycott in toto. But israel, different story...
Noam Chomsky is serious, the interviewer is not
Agreed. Boycotting Israel proper is like boycotting America. Therefore, both need to be boycotted in so far as it's practical.
the interviewer needs to shush it and let Chomsky talk
Jesus look at the mental gymnastics! This is the guy who killed the 911 truth movement as well.
Um n.c. thank you for trying to bring sense to.....who again?
You really can't split hairs on this. BDS all of Israel
“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves”
Calling Chomsky controlled opposition is completely deranged.
*EXCELLENT!!... I've been trying to tell people this about Chomsky for years!... He's always been a slick & sly limited opposition ZIONIST who NEVER wanted to hurt Israel as a JEWISH SUPREMACIST STATE* !
it sounds like Chomsky's approach to BDS is very pragmatic, but challenging ...don't waste your time trying to boycott everything, do your homework and boycott those industries/products which are directly implicated in illegal occupation
As usual, this journalist keeps interrupting and interrupting, interrupting…
Mehdi Hasan, bro, let him talk, please. And one more thing, talk little gently. Talking in that style with a person of such stature makes the watchers uncomfortable.
Noam Chomsky was asked about the nanothermite found in the World Trade Center dust after 911. He said he did not have the scientific knowledge to speak on the topic. First time I have ever heard him refuse comment on a topic! I am sure he is well aware of the significance of this finding.
This guy interrupts too much
Mehdi Hasan gets so upset when Chomsky disagrees with him and interrupts all nervously and doesn't allow Chomsky to make his point. Chomsky on the other hand, is not only instructive but a very correct person.
Good to see Mehedi Hasan in Aljazeera 😊
The whole of "Israel" is Palestine historically, who were the natives of Haifa for example? and Nazeret? Palestinians, many were Christians. why he talks only on West-bank after working with Ilan Pappe that wrote about ethnic cleansing of Palestine outside West Bank as well?.
Mehdi Hassan feels so pleased with himself for his "insights". I get that a journalist has to play devil's advocate. But understand that devil's advocate is easier than actually figuring out a position on complex issues. Dont be so pleased with yourself
OMG, He is putting words to his mouth!!!Horrible Interview!
Love Chomsky and Norman, but I have to disagree: BDS is needed
Hasan was not rude. We LOOK to Chomsky and Finklestein to get our bearings. It's important to be very clear how they come down on BDS.
that's really sad.
chomsky says keep pointing out the apartheid israel, but don't actually do anything to punish them, just keep talking, that is how controlled opposition works.
Disgraceful and irrespectful interviewer.
Should the Israel lobby be allowed to create federal
legislation that allows the states to outlaw BDS?
That is the real issue on the new House resolution.
Title is misleading
This is one of the few points I disagree with Chomsky about.
Then let's boycott the US universities because US is involved in atrocious acts.
@Main Channel Yes, it does. I don't see how being a Muslim is relevant.
i totally agree
Mehdi interrupts A LOT. It's good to ask tough and pointed questions, but CHILL, Mehdi. Esp when you talk to older and quieter guests.
Medi hassan just wanting a pointless and sensational sound bite
Chomsky has always been ahead of the curve. When you boycott the entire nation of Israel it will only result in Israeli's tightening their bond with (extreme)right wing western politicians. The wisest thing to do in this case is to seek out companies that directly make money from occupied Palestinian territories and boycott them specifically. This will not only send a strong message to the Knesset, it wil also send a strong message to the occupants and to non complicit Israeli's
isn’t living in israel by definition complicity?
@@yuvalfriedman4904 no I don't believe that. The nation of Israel is a fact that cannot be denied and ignored.
@@yuvalfriedman4904 "1,980,309 Israelis lived below the poverty line in 2020" , how do you suggest a poor person that was born there just 'move'?
yes
@@Guadeloop They're probably mostly Palestinians anyways.
Mehdi needs to listen and let people talk
This is really something to see! Chomsky stammering and studdering going out of his way to make Absolutely no sense! Will defend the Boycott of anyone else but here when it is Isreal he can't bring himself to a coherent thought.
I know... sad.
When Chomsky speaks, you listen!
To lies
_You especially listen when he is wrong._
And you criticize and rationalize instead of digesting anything he spits out.
He helped Chomsky make a less inflammatory point actually, which I'm sure he appreciates avoiding
Chomsky is always a voice of reason.
until the corona came
No one is above criticism
Even the best men get it wrong sometimes
I disagree but still love you Noam
+Abdul Taha arabs are not rightful land owners in Palestine and never were: that land was mainly empty in XVII century with small amount of Jews living there. only when Jews started arriving in late XIX century arabs started migration from neighboring Egypt, Syria and Iraq in search of jobs - and their ancestors represent majority of current so - called palestinians. Israel respect ottoman, British law so all prior land ownership is kept. As of historical rights, arabs occupied land of Israel in VII century and then again in XII, and lost it to ottoman in XV century, never ruled again.
@Jesse Matton-Pelloni whatever gets Palestinians the respect and dignity that they are owed.
Noam's true colors are showing
i think BDS should be limited to financial products and should have nothing to do with intellectual institutions.
GOAT
Well, he would, wouldn't he? He's Jewish, so no surprise there.
It is my understanding that the BDS movement doesn't condone banning the appearance of Israeli scholars, artists, et. al. per se...rather, if that scholar's or artist's appearance abroad is being funded directly or indirectly by the Israeli government via their educational or cultural institutions, it should be boycotted. If the person in question, or those institutions in the foreign country inviting him or her, are directly paying for their appearances, BDS has no problem with this.
Poliwood
Mahdi Hassan is fine. Stop over-reacting.
White people.
It's not an over-reaction. It is the genetic dissoluteness of the European mainyu.
Mehdi Hasan is one of the worst interviewers I've ever seen
Chomsky never saw any problem in boycotting South Africa. He has a different standard for Israel.
You didn't watch the interview.
Noam also believes the official 9/11 story,so...
who cares what one says
I don't like the interviewer's approach and the way he managed the topic.
This is when Chomsky lost credibility with me.
What about he's denial of 9/11 being an inside job?
why? why should a pro-palestine Israeli musician be targeted?
What's this? Noam Chomsky being mildly reasonable regarding Israel? Impressive.
I love Chomski. Israel shouldn't be boycotted with sanctions by the USA. They should still get aid and whatnot and so should Palestine. Israel shouldn't be using duplicitous means to get states to pass laws where people have to sign forms saying that they will not boycott Israel. This violates international law, federal and state law, not to mention constitutional rights. These state laws prevent people from getting jobs, help with relief efforts, welfare, etc...Since when does a foreign power dictate government officials to govern us American citizens?
@Christopher Bradley Yeah, last I checked, Israelis were defending their view points and their products by arguing with me and stating that my dead family members who died in WW2 in the US Military was irrelevant. What do they need the US for?
Free Palestine
Thanks, Noam! I had no idea that the invasion of Lebanon was gratuitous aggression on the part of the Israelis. I always thought it was to put an end to the indiscriminate shelling of northern Israeli civilians by the PLO and Syrian forces (which I thought were major belligerents in the Lebanese “civil war”)
Sounds fair. Just like the economic sanctions are squeezing the ppl that have nothing with the maduro regime we shouldnt go after people in israel who are just living their lives.
Noam Chomsky is correct, the interviewer should show more respect. He’s in favor of the boycott, but only where it works.
Of course he does. Chomsky is a gatekeeper. The Jews reward him for his efforts.
Ok, tell me when you give your lecture on the elders protocol of Zion too bro…… F off
Mehdi successfully pushed back Chomsky. Good job.
Ah, the hammer and sickle. The ‘thinking man’s’ swastika.
How kind of this overestimated fame-seeker who's for the purpose has recycled himself as an anti-everything. "Intellectual rockstar", as he loves to be called. How pathetic.