WHO NEEDS DOWNS?!?! NFL Fans React To "IMPOSSIBLE RUGBY SKILLS"
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The kick at 2:50 (called a drop goal) is worth 3 points. Same as a penalty kick
The drop kick into the bin was a rubbish kick!
You can still do drop kicks in American Football (but they are really rare)
And that particular drop kick was in the last minute after 41 previous phases for Ireland to beat France and ultimately go on and win the grand slam of 2018.
@@hobsonjones8693 wouldn't it be awesome if somebody won the Superbowl with a drop kick! It would be legendary!
@@robertsibley6330 it wasn't a drop kick.
My all time favorite reactions from you guys, When I was at school I played Rugby I was the only girl on the team and we used to play against my slightly older brother's team, I have had numerous injuries while playing and still carried on such as broken nose, dislocated shoulder that I popped back in myself and carried on playing, we definitely breed them tough in the UK, much love guys from the UK
You’re a beast. Props to ya
I was the only girl in my team as well. When I moved to England there was no opportunity to play rugby but I did carry on with hockey, although it was mad that the P.E. teachers didn’t know the rules. I love ❤️ rugby the Calcutta cup is a big day with my family and friends.
@@michaelhart1072 beast indeed, loose head or tight head😁
Well, "anything a man can do ..." eh?
Respect (and fear) from an American football player from Hawaii. Always valued my helmet. Couldn’t imagine playing rugby without it! Even with his shoulder pads, my teammate suffered a dislocation!
OK, a bit of historical context regarding scoring and scoring nomenclature.
Originally you only scored points for kicking the ball between the uprights and over the cross bar after "touching down". The act of touching down in itself had no score, but allowed you to "try" and kick the ball between the posts, hence the name "try". You were in fact "converting" the try into points if the kick was successful. It was then agreed that the act of scoring a try was more difficult, and indeed more of a team effort, and so should have a score of it's own. So a try scored 3 points, and the conversion 2 points. Eventually the try was increased to 5 points, to separate it in value from the drop goal (3 points), so there is now the hierarchy of scoring based on difficulty of achievement. The drop goal is so named, kind of obviously, because the ball is dropped to the ground by the kicker and kicked as it touches the ground, on the bounce so to speak, and driven between the uprights and over the cross bar.
I hope that this helps you to understand the weird scoring...
You left out the bit when a Try was 4 points.
It wasn't until, I think, the mid '90s that it became 5. Going to 5 made sense because it made a converted Try finally worth more than 2 kicks.
@@rittherugger160 You are absolutely correct, I forgot all about that period. No excuses...
Well you’ve both taught me something I didn’t know so thanks to you both. I’m from the uk and played rugby all through secondary school and still didn’t know a lot of this 😂
came to say this 😂
yeah you got a try at a conversion to points.
remember learning that and how much sense it made 👍
I love NFL and have been to a few game at Wembley when it first came to England, alas the game is designed for tv advertising, if it was allowed to flow without the constant stop, start, it would be a much more entertaining sport. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Yeah when I first watched NFL that's what turned me off. Constantly stop start reset and shove an advert in.. urggggghh
5 seconds of play per minute, if that
@@Ausecko1 Overall, in American football the ball is only in play for less than 5 minutes.
Don't try to watch a baseball game...
This is why I refuse to watch NFL nothing against the sport but the constant pauses is just terrible.
When a 60 minute games goes for 3 hours you know you have an issue with advertising.
Regarding "the rugby player gets the girl", at many of the clubs that I played against (and the club that I played for), the clubhouse bar would be packed with single women after the game, waiting for the players to come out of the changing rooms.
It was the girls who fought for the rugby players.
One girlfriend, that I met away from the rugby club, when she found out I was a rugby player, said she was pleased, because she no longer had to fight to get a rugby player. Mind you, she always got to the bar after the game to make sure no one else tempted me.
It was a great life - no wonder I loved the game.
A try is the same as a touchdown but you have to ground the ball beyond to line to score. The kick was a drop kick which is like a field goal but from open play. Great reaction guys!
Why is it called a touchdown when you don't need to touchdown?
@@booradley8895 Because American Football is derived from Rugby - where the ball literally needs to be touched down onto the ground past the goal line, under control, and with downward pressure.
In order for a Try to be scored, the ground, the ball, and the player's hand must all be in contact at the same time over the goal line.
You can't just waltz over the line with the ball like in NFL and take a bow before all of your supporters.
You haven't placed the ball onto the ground yet! You haven't "touched down" yet! Quick! Make sure the referee sees you do it!
I don't know why they call it a touchdown when the "touching" and "down" parts were lost long ago.
But, why is it called "Football" when only the "special teams" actually kick the ball!?
Let's have a game of catch ... now we'll call it "Football" - lol
The other interesting aspect is the place where you score the try determines the angle from which a conversion has to be attempted. So scoring nearer the middle of the pitch makes kicking the conversion through the posts easier
@@Wagoo yes - the "extra point" (2 points) is taken parallel to where the try is scored.
So - a touchdown in the corner will result in a difficult kick from the edge of the field.
Whereas, a touchdown under the goalposts will result in a pathetically easy extra 2 points directly in front of the goalposts.
I wish American Football would adopt this rule - because the "extra point" is a meaningless nuisance that holds up the game.
@@jazzx251 Exactly,a big part of the skill is not only getting a Try (touchdown) but where. Often that "pathetically easy" front of goalposts kick you mention has been won by someone taking the much harder choices when going for the try to make it easier to get those extra points. There's the drop goal choice as well,just punting the ball over the bar,but that's 2 points and back to the centre of the pitch to re-start,try and resulting kick goal is 5 points.
I played rugby at school when I was 9-12 or so. I was, and remain, light but very fast, like a formula one car. I was hard to catch, but when I got caught I stayed caught.
I remember as if it was last week, limping back to the changing room after a hard game, i.e every game, covered in bruises and grazes, broken and bleeding, caked in mud from head to toe. Not sure it would be allowed now, but this was the 80s. 😅
Know where you're coming from Tom, I tell younger people....just about everyone these days.....about games of "Bulldog" every day at primary school,and we didn't have a grass field,and they're horrified,not least to hear we actually enjoyed it 😁
Back then if you were a young lad it was almost compulsory to have at least one cut knee and a collection of bruises.
I played school rugby in the early 90's in NE England. We were awful, but we played every week. One game I was playing on the wing, and the snow and mist was so bad I could only see 1 or 2 guys along the backs at any time - went many minutes at a time without ever seeing the ball. The guy one down the line from me had to be taken off at half time with frostbite! Still finished the game - lost heavily as ever. Was good fun.
Brian O'Driscoll forever an absolute LEGEND
Weak shoulders though.....
@@user-yb9hi3us4p HE WAS A PUSSY
I really enjoyed this. Overall I find Americans reacting to European sports to be really enjoyable content, as a nation you love sports and produce amazing top level performance athletes but your sports are too stop-start (I guess for advertising reasons?)so you have a really strong understanding and appreciation of the performance and skill levels of athletes in even sports you're not overly familiar with. And I love seeing how stoked Americans get for skills and performances in sports outside their country.
You guys were so psyched watching this and your reactions to some of these plays and your appreciation of the skill levels for a sport you're not massively familiar with is a pleasure to watch. Awesome video!
That last clip is Tendai Mtawarira aka The Beast. You can definitely do a reaction of only his plays. Faf de klerk and Cheslin Kolbe are also really good.
"A scrum (short for scrummage) is a method of restarting play in rugby football that involves players packing closely together with their heads down and attempting to gain possession of the ball. Depending on whether it is in rugby union or rugby league, the scrum is used either after an accidental infringement or when the ball has gone out of play".
A try is when the ball is touched down behind the goal line, the kick you seen was a drop goal worth 3 points, a try is 5, a conversion is 2 and a penalty is 3
The phrase "touchdown" surely came from Rugby - where you actually have to physically ground the ball over the touchline, otherwise it doesn't count.
Somehow - the American version simply allowed you to carry the ball over the plane of the goal-line .. and call it a "Touchdown!"
Also - in rugby, you can throw the ball anywhere except forwards! .. But you can kick the ball anywhere you want.
American Football, Rugby League both grew out of Rugby Union
@@Zonday88 improved, Rugby League improved Rugby Union 😜
@@markhopkins318 we all know that’s not true. And the numbers prove is as well 😜
Some Rugby player come to the NFL. They don't last long as the protective padding in AF slows their play style down and hampers their game. Also AF usually get them for kicking duties only, another reason Rugby players don't consider AF as a career swap.
RUGBY WORLD CUP USA V ITALY 8th October 2022. Its in New Zealand a year late because of covid.
US vs Japan 15th October 2022 and Canada vs US on the 23 October 2022.
Try is when the ball is touched to the ground behind the opposing score line. Kicking a ball between the posts during play is a drop goal.
American Football was known for years in Britain as "Girl's Rugby". Different times and before Women's Rugby was established here, Being used to Rugby many in Britain are still confused why a slow and boring game like NFL,all those time outs, is so popular.
6:12 - right there Daniel, you got it. And I say this as an NFL and rugby fan, but rugby is so fast that you can't not get excited and drawn in. Another great reaction guys, lovin' it
5:58 the only times a 'play' is over in rugby is if the ball is knocked forward or it goes out of bounds of the pitch. (Into touch) Otherwise it's fair game
That was a field goal for 3, a try is when the ball is placed on the ground over the goal line for 5, a conversion is the kick after the try for 2, then you have the penalty kick for 3.
You guys are amazing. Such great reactions!
And this Rugby vid was amazing too.
Thank you so much guys! This was great!
Great reaction, it's your recognition of the rugby intensity, respect. The great moves on this clip are all done at pase and with someone trying to batter you to the ground, that's the skill that works some of the time, there is a lot of hard work in rugby that goes unnoticed and many little battles that are missed. For footwork see Jason Robinson for brutality see Sebastien chebal videos.
At 5:30. The guy doing that back flick pass while seated on his behind, is Dylan Lades.
The team in the blue are called the Western Province Stormers, based in Cape Town, South Africa. They were playing against the Waikato Chiefs based in Waikato, New Zealand in the Super Rugby semi-finals.
Super Rugby is/was an annual competition consisting of 5 teams each from Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, till covid hit. It is widely considered the best club competition in world rugby, which normally produces the best national teams too.
13:30 Watch to opposing side, still going for the ball but holding the player to make sure he didn't fall
Like it should always be. No matter what sport and despite the rivalries, there are and should always be moments to remember you that the life and integrity of a fellow human-being is much more important than the win or the sport itself! Sooner or later it can also be you under those circumstances and no sport is more important than suddenly having your entire life completely changed because of a severe injury. Respect!
Rugby league is a bit different, give that a try …… pun not intended
I used to love winding up some of the regulars from ' oop north ' in our local bar in Lanzarote when they showed League games. They used to get a bit pissed off at me calling it ' Kiss chase wi' boots on '🤣🤣🤣
So glad you enjoyed this. Been a rugby union supporter all my life, and where I live in Scottish Borders it is a big thing
to true, The Borders Sevens tournament circut is the oldest out of all Sevens Circuits in the world, not bad for our normally quiet piece of Scotlan. Greetings from Selkirk btw :)
Nice job guys
Just some info to help you when watching rugby:
1. Placing the bawl with downward pressure behind the goal line is called a try and is worth 5 points.
2. When a try is scored the scoring team is also entitle to a kick at goal in line with where the try was scored (this is why players will try to score as close to the posts as possible to make the follow up kick easier). This is called a conversion and is worth and extra 2 points.
3. A team may also choose to kick at goal when the other team has bean penalized for an infringement of some sort. This is called a penalty (penalty goal) and is worth 3 points.
4. A player may also drop the ball in front of him and kick the ball at the post as it makes contact with the ground (on the bounce). This is called a drop goal and can be done at any time. it is worth 3 points.
A drop kick has to touch the ground first before the foot comes into contact with it, which is what makes it more difficult than a penalty/conversion/field goal
1. Try (touchdown) = 5 points.
2. The kick at the posts after a try - Conversion (field goal) = 2 points.
3. A kick at goal after an infringement by the opposing team - Penalty Kick (field goal) = 3 points. 👍🏻
I love the NFL .
Great entertainment and skills.
The only draw back is the commercial breaks power companies have over the game play .
Hence the constant stop start play.
Both Rugby and football (Soccer) maintain flow of play as the mainstay of the sports
A try is 5 points, ball placed down in the in-goal area, a conversion is 2 points, a place-kick taken after a try is scored in line with where the ball was placed, penalty goal is 3 points, a place kick taken from where an infringement has taken place, and the final way of scoring is a drop-goal which is 3 points, the ball is dropped kicked (ball is dropped by the kicker and is kicked by the kicker as it bounces up). All scoring kicks have to pass between the uprights and over the crossbar.
If you could get the content and had the time watching this year's 6 Nations championship in full would be great. Some fantastic performances, close games, great atmosphere and worthy winners. It'd be a big effort but I think worth it.
In Rugby Union we have scrums...these became Downs in American football... our Rugby League foremat removed scrums for covid but they have returned
Never knew they removed the scrum in Rubgy League - but it was never a big thing anyway.
Rugby League is very close to American Football - you get 6 goes at posession in Rugby League (6 downs compared to NFL 4 downs) - but it's a much faster pace - almost akin to soccer - there's no "huddle" at all!
@@jazzx251 I watched the Saint Helen rugby league team and didn't know the difference between rugby union. The rugby league guys seem to wriggle around more on the ground
@@shredder9536 I'm not sure how it works - but that wriggling around seems to be a signal to the referee "they got me - it's time for the next down" .. the opposition then must back away. After 6 such possessions, the opposition gets given the ball. [like in NFL - you waste your 4 downs, it goes to the other team]
Also like NFL, if a team is on their "6th tackle", they'll punt it up the field as far away as possible - so that their opponent will have to start their own 6-tackles from well inside their own half of the field.
In the U.K. the independent broadcasters get a few ad breaks in before the game starts, so that you get an advert break free 40min period of play. Normally there is 2 further ad breaks in the 10min half time and then another uninterrupted 2nd half of the game. The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) normally only shows the big international test matches, ie friendly games (which are never friendly), 6 nations games or the World Cup tournament games and because the BBC is funded by our TV liecence money(£170 a year) there are no Advert breaks at all.
A drop goal or a penalty goal are not tries. A try is where a player runs it into the end area behind the sticks and grounds the ball. Hand, ball and ground must all be in contact at the same time for the try to be valid.
With Rugby it’s more difficult because to pass the you have to pass the ball behind you, you can’t pass forward like in the NFL.
For a drop goal to count the ball must hit the ground before being kicked.
After an attacker grounds the ball over the try line, it's called a try and is worth 5 points in Rugby Union and 4 points in Rugby League.
In both games, they then get to do a place kick for an extra 2 points by place kicking the ball between the posts, called a conversion.
Well over a hundred years ago, when the game began, the crowd would see the player dive over the line to score and they would then yell out 'try, try' meaning to try to kick the goal as well.
Over time, the action of scoring over the line became known as a 'try'.
When a drop kick goes between the goals, its worth either 1 or 2 points, depending on how far away the kicker is.
This is called a field goal.
So, you can go over for a try, kick the 'conversion' or kick a field goal.
These are the only ways to score in both games.
The ball must travel backwards or flat when passed, never forward.
Certain rules govern where and how a player can be hit.
There are heavy penalties for tacklers who aim for the head, twist legs and arms the wrong way, lift a player and spear his head into the ground (a spear tackle will get you sent from the field and you'll lose weeks of playtime through suspension.
Same with other very dangerous tackles.
15 players a side in Rugby Union and 13 per side in Rugby League.
What I find funny is in American Football it's called a "touch down" despite the fact the player doesn't actually have to touch the ball down on the ground, the point is scored the second you run over the line with it. Yet in Rugby it's called a "try" but isn't scored until the player physically puts the ball on the ground (i.e. technically he could run past the try line then run out again without putting the ball down and would score nothing)
Originally a try was worth nothing. It was called a 'try' because it allowed the team who scored it to 'try' for a goal. Because the game evolved out of football, the scoring was based around scoring goals. As late as the 1940s a drop-goal was still worth more than a try, and it wasn't until the 1970s that a try finally became the most valued scoring method.
Watching a second time I can't help think, in N.I. if someone bends down in front of you someone shouting 'while your down there' lol. I keep waiting on Daniel to say it when Spencer bends down. 😆 🤣
As much as I dislike football I absolutely love the rugby. Standing in the Kingspan Stadium in Belfast amongst the crowd is unbelievable. The atmosphere and love for the game is magical.
A try is when the player has the ball in his arm and touches down behind anywhere behind the try line, if you kick the ball between the post, upper part of the H is either a drop kick, open play, Penalty non open play, or conversion, after a try being scored.
What you are watching is Rugby Union (the 15 a side game) The closer to NFL is Rugby League (13 a side) in this game a team has possession for 6 tackles to gain ground and score a try. When there is a tackle made they stop must stand and push ball back with foot to a colleague standing behind and the gane moves on.
Try = touchdown is 5 points
Conversion =PAT is 2 points
Penalty kick = basically the same as a conversion but taken from where the foul occured is 3 points
Drop goal = dropkick the ball through the posts above the bar is 3 points
There are a couple of comedy tropes attached to rugby players. The first is incessant drunkenness and rowdy singing and Jackass-style pranking each other, and the second is being posh. Over here Football is the the working class game, and Rugby and Cricket are the toffs' games that are especially taught at the expensive private boarding schools we call Public schools. I know there's also a northern working class attachment to Rugby League rules, rather than Rugby union, but that's much less of a trope. The posh rugby player and loud drunk rugby player come together as the "Rugger bugger". And yes, at school, the Rugby players were the guys you especially didn't want to get into beef with.
There's also a joke about them liking men
I love your guys passion for the game. Makes the reaction worthwhile watching. Keep up the good work
No forward passes is the big difference with rugby
I do love that rule,pass back to move forward, it's great to watch.
Love watching your reactions guys, ex rugby player myself, best sport in the world. Have a look at Unbelievable 3 minutes of rugby, that will tire you out just watching 😁
At 2:56 Jonny Sexton (Ireland) scored a drop goal with a drop kick; it's not a try but it's worth 3 points. A try is 5 points plus 2 more if the conversion kick is made. A successful penalty kick at goal is 3 points.
The best way I can describe rugby to an American Football fan, (im British and a huge NFL fan! More so than a fan of rugby) is a non stop flea flicker play. Also, rugby league, if you get tackled it kinda stops the play, they get up and quickly roll the ball back and the game carries on, the team with possession has 5 attempts (tackles) to get to the goal line, if they don’t and are tackled 5 times, possession changes over. This is probably the version of rugby that translates to American football best. Think of it as you get 5 downs but not for ten yards, you have 5 downs to score.
As a wild generalisation, NFL is like a succession of short musical pieces played to a well-practised score. Rugby is more like an extended free-form jazz performance, lots of improvisation and interplay. Lots of skill in both.
Guy who holds the other guy upside down is Tendai Mtawarira (South Africa) otherwise known as "The Beast".
Rugby at its best incorporates the best passing and speed of basketball players moving down the pitch with the attitude and strength of your football to take a hit and carry on going.
That kick on 3:06 is called a drop kick. You can do a drop kick anytime, anywhere you want to but the ball has to hit the ground first before you kick it. So you drop the ball let it bounce from the floor then kick it, its pretty hard to get it in since your opponents still gets to rush on you. And you can only get 3pts from it. A try is only when you made a touchdown in the goal line with the ball touching the ground. Remember, the ball has to touch the ground if your arm(that has the ball) gets held up by any player from the other team then that cant be awarded as a try. Every try(5pts), theres a conversion(goal kick) right afterand its 2pts for the conversion. the spot of where you do the kick from is whereever the try was thats where you kick from. If it was from the corner by the side line youll kick from there. If its in the middle straight at the goal youll kick from there. Thats why a try(5pts) is always best to be done in the middle of them post and make the converion(2pts) easier for your kicker and get that extra pts.😊👌
Your reactions to comedy, sport and media are so good. Like hanging with two good bros. Cheers guys!
Don't forget, these players are calling to each other all the time, so you know your pass options by listening to the players around you (yes, behind, but still) you know where they are and how fast they are coming.
Welcome to the club boys! If you’re interested, the Cherry Blossom Tournament is going on right now in Poolesville. It’s amateur rugby, but it’ll give you a chance to see the game up close. Just make sure you bring a camping chair and beer!
Guys mentioned that the game stops when the ball hits the ground in NFL.
That also happens in Rugby, but only if the ball is spilled forward by the attacker, after the defender collides with him. If that happens, then the referee calls a scrum, with the defending team being handed the ball at the scrum. Same thing happens if the attacking team makes a forward pass. There are no forward passes in Rugby.
If the ball is spilled in line, or backwards during open play, the game continues flowing
When they kick it between the upright posts it’s called a drop kick. It’s worth 3 points. A try is worth 5 points ant the kick immediately after the try is called the conversion, it’s an additional two points added to the try. So a team can get 7 points from a try.
Glad you like Rugby, it is relentlessly captivating 👍
My cousin was in the Wales 🏴 under 21's team. She was an absolute machine!
One thing that helps with the awareness issue is that you can only be tackled if you're holding the ball. Therefore if you're not holding the ball you don't have to be as aware of opponents around you as in American football
You should watch the Six Nations Championship. It is an annual men's rugby union competition. The participants are: England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France and Italy. It runs from the beginning of February to nearly the end of March. Each team plays each team, so together there are 15 matches.
Great reaction lads try watching rugby league you’ve been watching mainly rugby Union. Rugby league stops after the tackle this happens 5 times in a attempt to score a try similar to downs just quicker. On the 5 time you can choose to attempt a try or kick it like a punt and if your player catches it you
Played in the late 60's against the Airforce, I was Army and it was a brawl from start to finish most of the time. These were the days before rubber sprigs on your boots so you had either leather nailed onto the sole or metal sprigs screwed onto the soles and they hurt when the scrapped along your back in a ruck. Still have the marks from being opened up by a broken metal sprig to the backbone and still played on until loss of blood forced me off, great game but a bugger missing the pissup afterwards, best game in the world.
You should watch more Rugby..... You will fall in love with it. Great reaction
Try equals 5 points... Try conversion (kick for poles) equal 2 points and a drop goal (dropping the ball and kicking it for poles) equals 3 points drop goals normally happens in open play where as the conversion is a placed kick of a tee then you also have a penalty kick for poles is 3 point and also a placed kick
When you guys were talking at 2:00 ish, it’s a lot easier to know where everyone is / is gonna be in rugby since the formation is typically always standard and you’re always gonna have someone at certain spots, so you can confidently pass there cause you know someone’s always gonna be there.
One of the best games of rugby ever is 1973 Barbarians vs All Black's. My Dad had tickets but to miss it for a delivery.
Hay, our Rotherham Titans train in my local gym regularly, and the training they do on the weights is awesome, especially stretching for flexibility.
Rugby in the UK is a type of football - English public (posh) schools in the victorian period played football but each school had it's own rules so therefore the game was split into halves with one half say Eton school rules of football against Rugby school rules, the Rugby school rules were when the ball is picked up and the football is played after a try is scored (hence a try at scoring, but later tries became points too). In the end somebody said we have to fix the rules for everyone and therefore we have the Football association inventing Association football (soccer, which is actual an English word and not an Americanism). Somebody else can tell you about Rugby Union and league splitting but thats not my thing.
Kicking between the posts is a (3pt) 'drop goal' from open play (the ball has to touch the floor when you kick it). You have the option to place kick a (3pt) penalty and the chance to add a (2pt) conversion after a (touch down) try.
More points for a try than a field goal guys, there are two different games of Rugby Rugby league and Rugby union, different rules and number of players
Great reaction, remember unlike in NFL, you can only pass backwards in Rugby, You can kick forwards but you can't forward pass.
Guys, the big difference compared to American Football is that the players make the decisions, rather than the coach, especially the half back(no.10) who is the equivalent of the quarter back.(though the 9, scrum half, also has big input). Unlimited lateral, or backwards, passes. 5 points for a try(touchdown), but actually have to touch it down, 3 points for a drop goal or penalty(versions of field goals), 2 points for a conversion(like a field goal, get an attempt after scoring a try). It is like chess compared to soccer being checkers, complicated but amazing when you understand it.
FYI try is a touch down which is 5 points, if you get a try you get a place kick in line from where you score the try which is 2 points, a drop goal or penalty kick is 3 points
Lovely, I've about 4 decades of egg-chasing under my belt (and I still play) it's a great game, not nearly as many stoppages as American Football - we basically want the game to be over so we can get to the pub :) In 1 game, 80 minutes duration, most players will run between 6-8miles or thereabouts, so a game is just like going for a nice little run....with 15 other people who want to hit you as had as they can.
Great seeing your reactions and your appreciation of the skills and awareness involved.
Also, from a selfish personal point of view I really enjoyed seeing the clip of Kingsholm. Where I have watched rugby many a time!
NFL seems to be about massive explosive power and sheer one off speed and exceleration.
Rugby is more about skills and agility.
NFL linemen are generally bigger, more powerful and faster over a few metres.
Rugby players can run for 10 miles per game, tackle, sprint and back up as needed, meaning massive players can't keep up.
Rugby big men are up to 120kg or 265lb or so. Bigger men can't keep up with the speed of the game. Players usually range from 85kg (185) to 120kg (265) but can be bigger or smaller if skills allow.
Rugby favours skill over athleticism but at the highest level the professional players are massively gifted with quickness, speed, power and size.
A rugby player wouldn't make it in the NFL generally because they wouldn't have the raw physical attributes (obviously there would be exceptions) and perhaps size. They would lack the massive explosive power needed.
NFL players wouldn't be able to cope with the speed , endurance and skill needed for rugby. They might play well for a few minutes but would surely fall apart after 10 minutes or so, allowing the quicker more skilful players to cut them apart.
Both games are elite, no doubt.
NRL might be the best combination of both games.
As a South African, our national sports are in line with the rest of the former colonies. Rugby being one of, if not the biggest.
Over the years, I've tried to watch, and understand the big American sports, and the general feeling I always get is frustration.
Frustration, as a result of flow, or lack thereof. There's something to be said about in game pressure.
Timeouts have to be the number one killer when it comes to this. The lung burning NBA could maybe get a pass with timeouts, cause it really taxing, but not for American Football. In a sport made up of set plays, there has to be enough time to get a rest. I do believe it's impossible to compare the two sports, but I would agree with the reactors, that it's hard to believe that Rugby is not bigger than it is in the US
So, scoring; currently in Rugby Union, you get 5 points for a TRY (equivalent to a touchdown except you actually touch the ball down). A TRY permits you to attempt a CONVERSION (a kick at goal from any distance but in line left to right across the pitch with where the ball was placed for the try); a successful CONVERSION is worth 2 points. A DROP GOAL (a kick at goal from open play) is worth 3 points, as is a successful PENALTY GOAL(kick at goal awarded following certain infringements).
Thanks for the enthusiasm. We love US sports plays too, obv. I was always a proponent of integrating basketball skills into rugby. Now at 53, I’m finally starting to see it. If not technically, then certainly players find themselves in ball distribution by hand situations , in small dynamic situations. The overlap is obvious and we need a bb coach out here( Rugby countries) to help with deception with ball in hand. I’ve seen insane bb passes/fakes//blind passes etc in bb to know they can teach us a ton. .
Rugby players at the top level have some mad skills. Nice to see a try from my home town team at 4:05 (Otago, based here in Dunedin, New Zealand). The NFL "ball hits the ground, the play is over" is similar to the other rugby code, rugby league (these highlights were all rugby union, which is the more popular version worldwide).
For a try you have to physically ground the ball on or over the try line. Then you have a kick in line with where you put the ball down to kick over for an extra 2 points. A try in rugby union is 5 points. In this video there was a drop goal which you mistook for a try. A drop goal is 3 points and can be completed from anywhere in the field whenever but it has to bounce before you kick it. If you are awarded a penalty you can choose to kick it to the posts or a few other options. If you kick it through the posts from the kicking tee that’s 3 points also.
there is 2 types of Rugby, Rugby Union and Rugby league. In Rugby Union they dont have downs and in Rugby League they have 6 downs before possession is turned over but it only counts as a down if the player with the ball is held to the ground, if they get tackled to the ground but release the ball before theyre held it continues the offense without a down.
In rugby a try is called a try because in the original game it was not awarded any points you were only given the opportunity to “try“ and score a point by kicking the ball through the post. It was only because games were so low scoring that eventually V touching down of the ball was awarded points of its own but still called a Try.
"How many points is a TRY?"
5 points for a TRY ... after which you get an opportunity to take a CONVERSION (a place kick from the 22 line adjacent to where the TRY was placed). If successful, a CONVERSION is worth another 2 points ... i.e. a CONVERTED TRY is 7 points, an UNCONVERTED TRY (missed it) is just 5 points.
A PENALTY kick is worth 3 points (a place kick after an infringement has occurred). And a DROP GOAL is worth 3 points (a kick which happens whilst in play, when a player drops the ball and kicks the ball just as it bounces ie. it's not a punt).
If you liked that you ought to check out rugby's hardest hitters and see players getting slammed without padding
A try is a touchdown essentially, worth five points, plus the opportunity at a conversion which is a kick taken from a kicking tee (I think the tee is optional but not kicked from the hand), kick taken in line with where the try was scored, hence why they often run under the posts before they touch the ball down where possible, placing the kicker directly in front of the goal. The successful conversion adds a further two points.
A drop goal is a field goal and worth 3 points.
A penalty kick at goal from a tee is three points, however if you're awarded a penalty you have various options to choose from. You can kick for goal, kick for touch, where you kick the ball into touch, as close to the try line as possible, retaining possession for the throw in, or you can choose to take a scrum, with your team feeding the ball in.
The kick to goal is probably the go to option nowardays unless you're a lot of points down as three quick points keeps up scoring rhythm.
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A try is where they touch the ball down over the line (5 points). Once a try is scored you then have a chance of converting... kicking from stationary in line of where the try was touched down (2 points) so a converted try is 7 points. You can also score with a drop goal, which is a drop kick through the posts.. 3 points. All clear hoys?
Rugby Union was popular in the USA until the early 1900's when the American Football was formed.
USA won the Rugby Union Gold medal at the 1920 and 1924 Olympics.
USA are ranked at 18 in the world..and are known as a Tier 2 national team. These rarely beat the Tier 1 teams...but in 2018 they beat Scotland 30-29, USA's greatest win.
There is a form of rugby that has a similar downs system to NFL.
It's called rugby league, in which the attacking team has 6 tackles/play to score. If they don't score possession swaps to the other team.
The “endurance” guy at 12min is Cheslin Colbe. He is a South African rugby player with the most amazing skills, speed and endurance. There are compilations about him.
Give Rugby League a go. It's a faster version. I think it translates easier for Americans. In Rugby League each team gets 6 'tackles' to score a try before the ball is given to the other team. Its very end to end and the collisions are immense. No offence intended but it would be easier for you to follow.
The greatest game on earth
Rugby league is a very enjoyable variant
Rugby league is so much quicker
Even as a St Helens fan - NRL is still far superior to superleague
I prefer League for domestic and Union for Internationals. I've no idea why? I just think it's the occasion of the Rugby Union Internationals. 🏉
12:30 Wills bully in The Inbetweeners wasn't the rugby player, that was Carly's boyfriend.
My wife's grandad worked in the Northwest of England in a general working-class job, and also played rugby for Saints; a top rugby team in the UK. Rugby League has its roots in the working class, not the upper class. Its rules are driven by hard men playing a hard sport. American "football" is like a bunch of billionaires getting together to create a national sport based on what they remember of rugby, but nobody could remember the rules.
Try is 5 points, 2points for conversion (kick over goal) penalty kick 3points
Just a FYI (and I am by no means an expert) the difference between the physical try and the kick is although you can go for a drop kick goal whenever in game (3pts) it’s usually set up after they make the physical try (5pts) exactly where the ball is placed for the try is the angle the ball must then be kicked from to attempt to convert it for the full 7 points as the goal kick is worth an additional 2 points if successful. Love your guys reactions with British humour and rugby as well as the football chants. Great job 👍🏻👍🏻 🇬🇧
The big difference between rugby and NFL is time. Rugby 80 minutes, NFL hours depending on team changes and how there is a hankie thrown on nearly every play. My son did play American football here in England, he's a strong lad and played offensive lineman.
Rugby League or NRL is half way between rugby union and the NFL, it literally is Rugby with 'downs' , 6 for each side to get to the endzone. I'd love to see an American Football league where offence also plays defence, no helmets to encourage form tacking, no sideline call playing or timeouts, and the time between downs and next snap is narrowed to 15 sec or so. That would be fun to watch.
It’s a field goal 1 point to break ties. The place kick after a try is a conversion 2 points
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