Vox'Animated - Professor Tiberius
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One of my favorite Scanlan / Tiberius moments was when Tiberius mentions Draconia for the millionth time and Scanlan goes: "Are you from Draconia?"
Here it is, folks. _The trade that saved Exandria._
… Kinda.
Wait... this was Scanlans first encounter with Ioun technically. You're right!
Orion had his problems - like he said on his channel, cancer and drug addiction - but for a time, he was one of my favourites on the show. Thanks for animating him along with all the others.
I thought it was HIV, not cancer.
It's possible. I remember an episode of the show before he left where he said he had cancer and was either recovering or about to get surgery (I haven't been through the early ones in a while). And I only listened to his explanation the one time; could have been both.
scw55 it was both. He had chemotherapy for the cancer and also got HIV which dragged his health down and he got Addicted to drugs (not sure what kind but I don't really blame him, Chemo and HIV must have sucked hardcore) and while I miss him, I think he needed to just step back and focus on himself. You could tell towards the end of his involvement he wasn't quite as... There. As he was before
@@luckycat624 he did some terrible things though i admit, but he was probs desperate there.
I won't get into all the outside of game stuff, since that's a whole big other story. As Tiberius I realize that he did great when he was in his lane. Like this professor Tiberius. The smartest one of the group and a bit of a braggart. I realize that as the in game problems started happening it was when he started trying to be in ALL the lanes. He didn't want to just be the smart spellcaster. He decided he was going to make sexual jokes like Scanlan, he got a pet like Vex, He started crafting (Percy) melee weapons, and using them brutally (Grog). He wanted to shine not only in his moments but take over the moments he'd seen others shine.
I love Keyleth in the background trying to reassemble the stone slate
I didn't notice that!! I'd seen this scene live-action so many times I didn't try to see the extra bits. Thanks!😁
All Orion controversy aside, Tibs will always be a special character in my heart. Even if he did eviscerate that old lady that one time.
At least we got a badass name out of it "The Granny Grinder"
Whaaaaat muuuurder
" _hmbffmmhplhfphmbm_ ....Oh. Hellew... I am Tiberius Stohmwind."
-Tiberius Stormwind.
from Draconia.
HAHA
Moreover, Vox Machina over at Greyskull Keep, but that's neither here nor there
you mean: Hi.. I'm Tiberius... hmpfmpf... Draconia."
Tiberius Stormwind
from Drunkland
“Greetings and salutations!”
Anyone else realise if Scanalan hadn't made this trade he wouldn't have his Ioun Stone, and very well may not have got the Blessing from her? So Tiberius did contribute to the victory over Vecna in a way
I thought that when he brought out the Ioun stone. I was shocked at how well it had worked out, and - if it had been Mercer's intent - a subtle nod was given to Tiberius/Orion because of it.
Yes because these uncommon stones are the only reason why he was chosen.
Also to find that one mythical lion in A name is earned. The Ioun stone was vital then as well.
Yeah I'm sure if Orion took the Ioun stone and left there would've been absolutely no way to find the Sphinx. Matt would've just said "tough luck" and ended the campaign.
I not saying that, it's just a nice nod to the character. Also, maybe if Scanlan didn't have the Ioun stone he wouldn't have felt ready/worthy to take the test, and Ioun could have chosen Percy instead?
The Ioun Stone suddenly seems a lot more important in light of recent events. Also, I miss Scan and Tibbles snarking at each other.
"Silence!"
"Dispel magic."
"Counterspell!"
".....ffffuck!"
"Are you done running for mayor, what's going on?"
What was the item Tibs was trying to trade for?
Spuds Larsson - Scanlan's Circlet of Concentration.
@@spudsbuchlaw Its not a 5e item official item. In previous editions, you could concentrate on multiple spells (most of which werent as insane as some concentration spells now)
So, Matt seeing his players miss that aspect, put in an item that allows you to maintain conentration on 2 spells, and the first spell will fall off at the end of your next round.
Glad to see critters havent forgotten Tibs
Zerron 2006 Rip Tibbsy :/ -i encourage peace.
How could you? I really do miss him
Nobody forgot. They chose not to remember
@@chungleandthebims167 especially considering the piece of shit Orion Acaba is. There's no excuse anymore for people being ignorant when the information is out in the open.
Who?
This trade was integral to the victory over Vecna as well as many other foes...If Scanlan had not taken that stone, many moments where he helped turn the tide of battle among other things simply would not have happened...Goes to show how even the simplest of moments can have far reaching consequences...
Oh yeah and how even after he fell fighting Vorugal to protect Draconia, Tiberius helped save the world
Every time I watch the live action intro. I picture Orion having to sit in a chair for god knows how long to become Tiberius.
Man I can just see all the prosthetics and red paint. That would have taken hours.
Would be worth it
he has a really nice Tiberius mask already actually!
That must be why they got rid of him.
They got rid of him because he was a meth addict
I love that you used the same math he wrote on the chalkboard. Way to keep it canon.
Its moments like this where Tiberius was at his best. But man, did he have some SHITTY moments and brought the group and fun down...
Someone's been rewatching the series since it wrapped last month...
It takes one to know one xD
I think that's me because my friends show critical role to me and I LOVE IT!
So I watching it all from the very being
This reminds me of Rick and Morty when Rick used mathematics to prove that he thought both his grandkids were equally worthless.
Could've sworn Scanlan was still going to turn him down at the end. XD
As much love Scanlan got for being such a great magic force in the final battle,I cannot help but think how crazy powerful Tiberius would have been. (Plus he could have also had a 9th level Wish) :'(
Garrison Watts yea, there were so many situations after tibs left where I thought he could be a powerhouse, but honestly, it would make,many of their fights a lot,less interesting, he would just demolish everything.
Kevin C , yeaaah I agree. Sorcerers can become pretty bullshit. XDD Especially if they specialize in evocation. I've experienced a couple of times when a dm thought it was a great idea to have us fight sorcerers that outnumbers our party. It always ended with an awkward silence when they realized they had just wiped us all out in little to no effort.
twin disintegrates, twin power word kill, meteor swarm, wish, time stop. lots of goodies.
True scanlan as a Bard, doesn't really excel at anything so it's kind of his job to fill any missing rolls, and well with Tiberius gone that's exactly what he does, by becoming the team arcane spell caster. Which is probably why he never took any restoration spells outside of healing word.
Though he would have had more conterspells, I believe Matt would have inroduced more to increase risk.
Having an extra player at the table is huge, especially a spell caster.
I mean, he was totally metagaming, but he was doing it in character in the most adorable way, so I can’t exactly complain. It was funny.
Daniel Gordon i don't get it. How is it metagaming to know that an item that would be great for you isn't being used at all by another character?
"Hey, I see you have a battle ax and I have a wand. As a warrior I would prefer to have an ax. As a magic caster you have no use for an ax. Shall we trade?"
@Leisure Tiberius as a character does not know what a "sorcerer point" is or what a "round" is all he would know is that he has the power to cast spells quickly sometimes
@Leisure straight up untrue
It's Metagaming in the same way Scanlan calling himself Burt Reynolds & "yelping it" is metagaming. It's not technically stuff they're supposed to know about, but it doesn't actually harm immersion in or enjoyment of the game, which is what makes metagaming a negative thing.
It isn't metagaming. Characters know what they can do. What they call it doesn't really matter.
I actually really liked Tiberius at first, but obviously Orion's behavior got worse as time went on.
I miss the character more than the player, but I do hope Orion is doing better and has found another campaign to play in.
Orion started his own streamed DnD thing, I thought. "Knights of Draconia" or somesuch.
It's not a dnd stream, its more a teleplay based on Tiberius' adventures with his family. His version of Draconia is a parallel world to that of Exandria so it wouldn't be affected by where Matt wanted to take the campaign.
@@KRob811 it's really bad too
@@bitter-bit You're just a real hater
@@bitter-bit my issue with it is that there's no narrative or narraration
This kind of makes me miss Tiberius, but at the same time, he was so irrational and basically a loose cannon all the time. Also inconsiderate to NPCs and self-centered. So meh.
(Not talking about Orion, by the way. Tiberius. The character)
Yeah, I know what you mean. I would've loved to see where he would've ended up as a character if Orion had been able to stick and grow with the group. c:
He could've become a super lovable character or a total monster.
Or maybe both.
To be honest he was my favorite along with Scanlan from episode 1 until shopping and shipping. It wasn't his 2 hour grocery list that killed it but the tension between all the players was thick and it leaked into the game and made it impossible to enjoy. One of my favorite moments in Avatar was the filler episode with Uncle Iroh because it gives them opportunities to show inner depth to a character. This is due to outside influences and probably only would have grown worse but if Orion was healthy and confident in his ability to say monstrous transformation or no, i would have loved the story they would make with the character. Now i rely on travis and sam to carry what i lack without Orion but the episode i'm on right now (33/34) Travis has been seemingly not feeling it and Marsha is a bit oppressive. Orion kept the party in the "roll your eyes and carry on" mood keeping everyone else in check per se, while being amusing in his musings. Now i can feel his presence missing. NOTE: Not hating on any of them and don't want to hate on any of them lol.
AOE Frosty It gets better. I think part of the issue was that Marisha was kinda taking the spot that Tiberius had left. She was being overly confrontational about all the the groups choices (even if its in her character nature) but then would just go off and do whatever she wanted at several points, forcing the group to react to her. I have a player like that in one of my groups and it can be very frustrating at times.
Overall, Tensions where high at the time and some players trying to "Step Up" and fill Tiberius roll caused some issues imo.
AOE Frosty it get's a lot better. Travis starts to carry the show with his dumber and dumber ideas. Marisha is still Marisha and Laura is still the same thou. But Travis really just pushes it to 11 in order to keep things entertaining.
Marisha has sort of annoyed me since the very start. I'm still in the Underdark below Kraghammer and she's just very 'screw you all' and just pouts when she doesn't get her own way. I get that she succeeded and got Clarota but when the entire group said "no, we're trying to think of a plan" and she said "Nah, I steal the magic carpet and go do my own thing." The entire group just sighs and rolls their eyes. That's not a positive influence on a group. Not to mention on top of that, especially in the beginning she's constantly ignoring Matt to look at her phone. I get they all use their phones at some point but keep your ears open, please.
I do love maths with Tiberius
Moments like this make me remember that I did really like Tiberius at one point. It wasn't until the start of the Briarwood arc that I became really bothered by him, and that was before I found out about all the drama.
I loved Tibs. He was my favourite character and was really upset when he left. I almost stopped watching critical role because I missed his quirky and slightly bossy ways, but I'm glad I stuck it out to the end. I have another favourite character, although not technically part of vox machina, he is another red dragonborn. Arkan the cruel, such a sneaky bugger lol.
Tibs was awesome
Rip Tibsy
This was one of my favorite moments from either campaign lol. I still bust up every time I hear it.
Wow, a Tiberius clip!
I once red a fairy tale where a bunch of bandits kidnaps a young princess. After learning that she is a princess, or a lady or whatever, they are shocked by the fact that they have met a lady and ponder about what to do when in the presence of such. She begins to make demands which the bandits then follows, due to their belief that you should always do as a lady commands. For some reason I can't help but think about that story when watching this video
It might just be the first episode of DragonBall, what do I know
Yay! Tibsy love!!!
Just got to this point in my binge watch of Vox Machina and HAD to come watch the animation
Thank you so much for making an animated short with Tiberius.
Love your videos, thanks for the hard work.
Despite being a real piece-of-work in his personal life, I think most within the community would be humble enough to acknowledge that Orion was a bad person playing a truly remarkable character in Tiberius. And admittedly, this was perhaps one of the single funniest inter-party interactions of all of Campaign 1. xD
People just didn't understand dragonborns.. Orion role played dragonborn arrogance, and people think it's Orion himself.. Dragonborns as a race inherently think that all other races, especially humans, are inferior.
See, he did, but he also dragged out sessions and made people visibly uncomfortable multiple times.
Zesprit15 Agreed. But I do wish Tibsy as a character could have stayed in the game somehow. Orion may not have quite fit with the crew, but I think he was a good rp'r where the dragonborn characteristics are concerned. . Tiberius brought a different dynamic to the team, and I would have liked to see how he progressed and changed personality wise.
Especially nobility dragonborns they have an air of haughtiness around them given the higher social status and such
Zesprit15 I agree. You can even see in this the “slate breaking” moment was clearly Matt telling him to hurry up a little.
See, this is the thing that really kinda irks me when people bring stuff like this up though, it's NOT the fact that he didn't fit well with the group at all. Remember, they were playing this for over two years prior. Do people REALLY have so little faith in Mathew they they think he would not only do nothing in a situation where one of his players was "disrupting" the game for everyone else, but then allow that person to do so while broadcasting their personal campaign to the world? It seemed pretty clear that the players themselves were perfectly fine with the dynamic they constructed over those first couple years, it simply came down to people misunderstanding character interactions for real-life interactions and such. (see: Vax vs. Grog early on in the show)
I personally feel that everyone that played a role in Crit Role did a great job. I legitimately cannot recall a single player character I disliked, let alone hated as much as some people seemed to hate Orion. (or Marisha, for that matter) I just wish people would learn to be a little more critical of their own dislikes, and maybe try not to speak on other's behalf when it's clear they don't have the full picture.
One of my favourite Tibs moments :)
This is actually an amazing bit and was actually really funny to see in episode, thank you for making this
I miss Tiberius Stormwind…
The one time metagaming was not only enjoyable but frickin’ hilarious.
This wasn't exactly META gaming. All the information presented in Tibb's explanation....he had attained in combat, and they had learned of the item.
This was more of an example of POWER gaming, where a player wanted both character to be more powerful by the use of their items, since Sam wasn't using his circlet at all, and Tiberius would have noticed him frustrated that he was out of magic in a fight a handful of times.
Though yes, it was hilarious. Please don't use the word metagaming in place of powergaming (:
Though theres an argument that in order to power game you must meta game!
It's not metagaming
Not really metagaming outside of saying sorcery points which even that could be an established thing in dnd
@@BrendenTait8858 Because how do You call sorcery points in D&D terms? Mana? What about spell slots?
Exactly, not everything is metagaming
I love Tibsy, thanks for making this
This is awesome! I love how you draw Tiberius.
So bittersweet.
one of my favorite scenes ever.. loved it
Me as a wizard trying to reason with the rouge who nicked a magic staff from the loot
Tiberus explaining that he needs the stone is like my DM telling my arracrokra druid to use the invisibility cloak he gave me XD so i did and went on a thrilling ride of minecarts in the underdark.
After watching the first 20ish episodes, Tibs was my favorite because of moments like this. Unfortunately, meth destroys people and I hope Orion is doing better.
It's unfortunate how things played out afterwards too because it looks like (in my opinion) if Orion had given up rights to Tibs, maybe Tibs could have been back in Amazon's animated series, instead it looks like he's been erased.
Meth really meths things up yo
I literally just watch that episode like a day or two ago. So it's very fresh in my mind
One of my favorite Tibs moments
This was by far one of my more enjoyable moments of Tiberius, thanks for animating it !
It physically hurts to still see people hate on Orion/Tiberius, and even more so when they don’t know anything about him or his character. Even Matt is sick of how people talk about him. “He was so annoying and tried to steal all the glory” Thats his character. “He was so rude and inconsiderate” He is a Red Dragonborn Prince with a Wisdom of 4. “He is so angry all the time” Drugs and Cancer would do that to a person. “He is such a metagamer” So what? Let him play how he wants to, besides, this was adapted from Pathfinder where Magic users were basically demigods, I wouldn’t blame him for trying to regain that splendor. You insult my favorite Dragonborn, you insult all of Critical Role.
I agree right up until metagaming.
No, just, no.
Every player abides by a standard. It's not 'playing how one wants to play', it's deliberately giving your actual character an advantage by using out of character information... lemme explain it this way. Say the party splits and they each have a task to do and are FAR AWAY from each other in the game. In the game, there is no way for either group to know what the others are doing or if they're even alive. One player from party B is listening to the DM describe what is happening to party A as a player (not the character). That player cannot use the player knowledge as character knowledge.
For example, later on, much further in the campaign of Vox Machina, Taryon gets kidnapped. Matthew Mercer does split narrative where he switches between Sam Riegel and the rest of Vox Machina. The players all know what is happening but their characters don't. Metagaming is the act of doing or saying things that your character DOES NOT KNOW. Your character doesn't know where the kidnapped member is unless they make a perception roll or scry etc. If everyone at the table just meta-gamed, there would be no point in having any skill check rolls whatsoever.
Metagaming is the only thing I disagree with here.
Oh, I misunderstood metagaming then. I thought it was purposefully min/maxing your character in order to perform as best as possible in combat and immediately using enemy weakness when your character shouldn't know them. My apologies.
I will say that it is more Orion than the character of Tiberius that often tried to make everything a drum solo (I don't want to call it stealing all the glory). It doesn't deserve that kind of hate though. It's a flaw, but we all have them, as do the other members of Critical Role in different ways. Other players and especially the DM will draw that back a bit, well hopefully so in our games, but with CR they will try to handle that and control of fix it. You can come up with complaints about gaming flaws of most of the players. It's not worth that kind of hate.
There are other examples and ways of Metagaming, and that is a good example above. Having played for ages (back to the basic/Expert Boxed sets Moldvay covers) most players metagame to some extent or try. Orion is nowhere near the worst I've seen. No I wouldn't allow it, but I'm just saying he wasn't the worst at what players will attempt to metagame, without trying, or sometimes realizing what they are doing. Matt was pretty good about keeping it under control.
Orion was totally different in playstyle. He didn't mesh as well as the other players do together. He was a bit of an outsider in the group, even in the home games you can tell. And that's not a bad thing. It can bring an interesting dynamic. I mean we can tell the difference. I've even been that outsider myself in some groups.
I really didn't like how some people acted about when he killed the crone with the krull thing. Yeah she was running away at that moment, but if her spell hadn't failed she would have been sticking around to finish of the group she was hired to kill. He ain't no Paladin. I applauded him. I mean it was pretty brutal but kind of funny. He may have been rude and inconsiderate to a certain extent in some situations, but that was the highborn dragonborn character and he roleplayed it well. As he did Tiberius's love and respect to the rest of his party.
Also his "I walk away" scene was terrific.
That's called power gaming! You were close.
Kane the Space Wolf
Hard to speak for all of the criritcal role community when there are many of us that dont really mind that he is gone.
You can like Tibsy all you want, defend him all you want too.
But dont speak for anyone but yourself.
You can clearly see that not everyone is as fond of him as you are.
Rest in peace Tibsy. Rest in peace you loveable dragonborn.
Ohh...I miss Tiberius...
These are so great. I can’t wait for the new campaign. I’m sure it will produce so much more material for you!
Probably one of his few endearing moments
I miss Tibs.
X"D This was my favorite scene! RIP Tiberius.
imagine what it would have been like with scanlan and concentration circlet... like this moment was funny, and he was right at the time, but if scanlan would have held on to that, oh boy could he have done amazing things with it towards the end :D
It is a great feeling when you finally get far enough for animatics to not be spoilers.
Still one of my favorite moments from the entire show
This is just my personal headcanon, but the first few minutes of Orion Acaba's Draconian Knights gives the impression Tiberius is a dimensional traveller. I personally like to think when Ocaba's Tiberius left the early campaign he plane-shifted back to his dimension and thus begins Ocaba's Draconian Knights radio play. Meanwhile, the Tiberius that resides in Exandria is one we never actually met. For the sake of closing a plothole with that, assume AC's Tiberius arranged for Lockheed to be placed into EX Tiberius' possession rather than take the pseudo-dragon back with him.
Vox Machina make the assumption both are one and the same, and there you have it - best of both worlds.
I'm not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind seeing fanfiction where Tiberius stuck around... or they meet the other Tiberius. Maybe I should write some? xD
I feel like Tiberius didn’t seem very unwise like I guess he wasn’t very insightful but it could have been done better
Tiberius was irrational, and sort of compulsive. Arguably due to his low wisdom. He was oblivious to how he talked down to people, unable to insight how his words and demeanor were degrading or bragging. He also tried to throw around his knowledge without the rights words for the conversation. I mean he even attacked someone's magical wards. We can easily see that he wasnt wise!
I think it was played well. Now if we look at Keyleth, who has above stats in all mental stats, but is played like a ditz, you can argue keyleth doesnt seem like an above average extremely wise person.
But either way, both (all) characters were great :)
house of the rising sun
The clocked ticked to midnight during this video at around 1:10. This is how my year starts. I regret nothing.
I already LOVE Tiberius.
I miss Tiberius
Its so nice to see Tiberius for once. :D
I really wish Tiberius could've stayed in the campaign and get past the meta-gaming part that bugged everyone. Outside of meta-gaming he has got to be one of the BEST roleplayers. People might say that there's no such thing as being better at roleplaying but I just feel that Tiberius was. When he spoke I was so engaged with his character.
If you just google his name + Critical Role you'll see a reddit thread. Scroll that reddit thread and you'll see two kickstarter scams he conducted, plus evidence from his abused ex girlfriend. He was a shit stain. Tiberius was a dislikable character, but he had room for growth (as did Orion, but there were probably conversations off-stream they had about the subject)
Kickstarter Scams:
- One was where he offered to raise money for a mod of one of his twitch streams, but never gave her any of the money www.reddit.com/r/DeFranco/comments/7qvgwb/orion_acaba_a_voice_actor_formerly_of_critical/ There's this thread, and then in here, it outsources to evidence to the person affected.
- The other was for his all Dragonborn party that he started to basically be like Critical Role, raised about 3k and no one got their rewards nor did they get refunds (bc of how kickstarter works) There's evidence in the comments of that kickstarter www.kickstarter.com/projects/orionacaba/draconian-knights
I can tell you for a 100% fact that anyone who hates Orion Acaba absolutely loved the dynamic Tiberius gave to the party. It's the PLAYER who ruined it all. And you can clearly see when it's Orion getting mad that he cannot be OP instead of Tiberius being frustrated that something did not work out
@@chungleandthebims167 thank you
In a werid way that ioun stone helped Scanlan along the way to becoming the champion of that very same goddess at least during his trial.
BestTiberius moment in the show. I still crack up everytime
Oh! My name is, Tiberius Kraghammer. that's my favorite, like wtf he was totally zoned out and named his dwarf form after a town? fucking lmfao, episode 1 at 1:48:00
That was a great moment.
Tibs~
Tibs
The way he's drawn is so adorable
absolutely brilliant, thank you
It's funny to think of how slowly Tiberius and Lady Elora we're becoming a Love Interest. But then he leaves and she goes Lesbian lol.
The Nostalgia!!!
Orion had his problems, and I don’t lament his leaving the show, but Tiberius Stormwind was a great character before he kept trying to outshine everybody. Tibs is a big inspiration for my current sorcerer that I’m preparing. The brilliant fool, as it were. All brains and little common sense
it caaaaaame, it finally CAAAmmeee *fading into distance*
Then Scanlan goes for the ENTIRE REST OF THE CAMPAIGN... WEARING THIS THING ON HIS HEAD, ATTUNING IT, EVEN PLACES A LIGHTNING SPELL IN IT... and then NEVER USES IT ONCE... and then forgets about it completely and swaps it out for a hat of disguise at some point. He then ditches the character for someone else entirely, due to the Robin Williams suicide (admirable reasoning I might add), and this item disappears into his inventory and never sees the light of day again.
**facepalm**
Wait what? He made the gay artificer guy because of Rkbin Williams?
Orion is a natural wizard.
Still probs my fav single conversation from that campaign.
I miss Tiberius. He was funny
This animation just makes me want to hug Tiberius. He's so funny and so cute in this!
I sometimes find myself wondering since the finale what could have changed in the story had Orin and there for Tibs not parted ways with Critical Role. Would the finale battle have gone differently? Could he have done something to save Vax...I honestly can say.
Lucas VerBeek I think Matt would have increased the difficulty significantly. Same goes for most of their fights after he was gone. I think it would,have been relatively the same outcome, cuz Matt knows exactly what hes doing
He wouldn't set foot in Vecna's Lair, and would bug the rest of the group for a plan to lure him out of the tower.
Neverwinter27
Which woulda been a smart move... Fighting a pseudo god in the middle of their lair is an awful, stupid fucking idea.
Tiberius was the only one in Vox Machina with half a brain.
"Lets charge right into the Beholder's lair and sneak attack him!" - A lucky bunch of idiots
"How are you going to sneak around something with that many eyes, that already knows we're here, in its own house? I dont want to fight something on it's terms if I can avoid it." - A smart man who was too good for them
Tiberius saves the day more often than Kelieth does and Orion was there for barely a quarter of the series.
10/1 Tiberius would have picked up Wish and/or Timestop, and maybe a couple levels in Fighter. The archetype seemed like a "spell slinger" type, would have been nice to see what kind clever combos he might have used.
R.I.P Tibs, you were literally too good to live.
@@brosephnoonan223 no, there was nothing wrong with the character, he wasn't too good or too bad for VM, but with the player, constantly taking the spotlight, shitting on NPC's and being obnoxious, i liked him at first, but could you imagine one of the serious moments like Tary talking to his family, i can almost guarantee you that Orion would interject with "Tiberius is flirting with Tary's mom or something. and i get sam does that too, but he does it at the right times, not during emotional, serious moments
@@TheRaptureWillRise Just one extra counter spell from Tibs instead of Scanlan would have allowed Scanlan to use Wish to save his friend.
Matt did confirm that if he had used wish correctly when she came to collect, that it would have probably been enough of a pull to prevent him from having to go. And Scanlan only uses his 9th slot when he absolutely had no other choice.
But that just shows what COULD or MAYBE happen, right? Maybe Matt forces them to use more Counterspells because he uses more higher level spells and uses magic correctly to decimate his players. Who knows.
Poor Tiberus . . .
I wish Tiberius wasn’t played by Orion. His character is so lovable and cool but Orion’s metagaming and spotlight hogging made him so much worse.
Actually i thought his spotlight hogging was entirely in character for a slightly stuck up noble
@@Damianweibler Not when that wasn't his established character.
As though they all stuck to exactly what they wrote. Tiberius ALWAYS put himself first, from his very first solo adventure at the Thunderbrand manor. It was entirely in character for him to act like he always knew best.
Honestly Keyleth is a far more frustrating character at the beginning, insisting shes sweet and kind then throwing people into lava and getting intensely argumentative
@@Damianweibler It was but just because it fits the character doesn't mean you shouldn't be considerate of the other players. He could have hemmed it in more and been mindful of others. Then again the sexual comment he made was the real nail in his coffin. Travis was absolutely furious about that
@@jefferycrouse4652 all good points. It was more nuanced than a lot of the community acknowledges. But then they also sent hate mail after molly died, so we clearly cant expect nuance from them.
What sexual comment?
this is from c1 ep16
i miss tibsy
Orion has moments of pure genius. I hope he’s doing ok.
This is my favorite tibs moment
Days since someone left an unnecessary comment about how much they hated Orion among 20 other comments about the same thing: 0 days
Anyways, you don't have to say how much you hated Orion every time he's remotely mentioned, let alone drop it randomly on a video a person animated and put work into just because it featured his character? It's very rude. You can still find the scene funny without thinking Orion was great.
He did steal money from charity donations... I'd say he earned the hatred.
Mathew McCloskey sure, but that’s not what the comment is about. It’s about the character Tiberius and the artist’s work. Leaving comments like that probably doesn’t affect Orion like it’s intended to, but it probably has a big effect on the animator who used Tiberius in the short. That’s not very fair imo.
Meh, I really didn't like the character Tiberius either. He was extremely over powered at such a low level, his rp was boring and cliche, and he made the other characters visibly uncomfortable at times. I don't mean for my comment to "hurt Orion" in particular. I just want to spread the message that he's a disgusting, low life human being who isn't deserving of this artists talent.
Mathew McCloskey a lot of the rp is "Cliché", Grog is an Idiot Barbarian (Although Travis does it wonderfully even though a lot of the time it means he has to sit back and listen to people's sometimes stupid ideas), Vex is a greedy ranger, Vax is a moody stealthy boi, Scanlan is the comedic bard, Keyleath is a clueless druid. Cliché for all. Bad? No. Something can be Cliché and still great
@@luckycat624 yeah but Tiberius want cliche and great he was min max annoying "Dragon Ball a RP forum" bad
I miss Tiberious );
I miss Tibs he was a different from the rest of the group but I still liked him.
Oh! My name is, Tiberius Kraghammer.
I am listening to the Vox Machina campaign in 2019 for the first time and Tiberius is by far the funniest and best RP'd character of the bunch i my opinion. Orion plays a hard job but does it very well. Long live Tiberius Stormwind!
I hope you've since changed your mind.
That Stone came in handy really handy
who'd have known how important that trade turned out to be!
I'm going to miss Tiberius, I'm only on episode 17, but I'm already familiar with how it all plays out.
Yay another upload :D
this is so good
Then he never used the ioun stone
It was actually used when they were trying to find the husband of the Sphinx I believe it was. They used it as a beacon to find him
Thank you
Thank you
Wherever you are,, for making this. You are a bunch or just one person, but funnier,, doesn't exist... 😎