USB-C to 3.5mm Mic Adapters - DJI Osmo Action 3 & Action 4 Owners watch THIS for better audio!
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- There is so much confusion around the DJI Osmo Action 3 and how to connect an external 3.5mm microphone. Some people suggest cheap USB-C to TRRS adapters while others insist using a TRS adapter. But which cable really provides the best audio quality when connecting a mic to your Action 3? And why does TRRS / TRS even matter? Watch this video to find out!
DISCLAIMER: The Digital/ Analog TRS/TRRS concept can take A LOT longer than 5 minutes to fully understand. This video is intended for other DJI Action 3 Owners who simply want to know which USB-C to 3.5mm adapter they should buy for their mic.
If you're microphone has a TRRS connector, I would suggest a TRRS to TRS Adapter (like the RODE SC3) and then into a BOYA BY-K4.
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After 3 years of randomly buying dongles, I finally understand why some work and some sound like trash.
I swear I have been buying usb c to trrs to use my microphone with my s23 ultra to create content and I almost went crazy because I couldn't fix the problem with the voice and I bought like 3 different cable adapters to try and fix it, until I saw Ur video today, thank you from deep inside my heart for solving this dilemma to me ❤
do you realize how beneficial this info is! most Chanel's only tell you what to buy and not why to buy one over the other! thank you!
Thank you for posting this. I've been testing all my adapters (USB-C to 3.5mm TRRS/TRS) with no luck on the Action 4. I have an Osmo Pocket 2 and had purchased the DJI USB-C to 3.5mm Pocket Adapter, which proved to only be compatible with the Pocket series and not the Action series. No clue why that would be...but hope others don't make the same mistake and buy the DJI product hoping that works. Was nearly about to purchase the new DJI adapter for the Action series USB-C to 3.5mm, albeit the design is sweet and square shaped sitting on the side of the Action 4, it is 4 times the price as the Boya adapter. Interestingly enough, the wireless mic I am trying to use is the Boya wireless mic system, but did not know about this Boya adapter. Just ordered it and should arrive tomorrow, hopefully, as our trip is this weekend. Will post a confirmation that this adapter functions with the Action 4 & Boya wireless mics. Cheers!
Thanks to your video I just got me a Hollyland 3.5mm TRS to Type-C Cable, so with just one cable I have a nearly pro audio with my Dji Action 3! As a mic I use a Rode VideoMicro mic and I am Super happy! 😊
Which one should i use for motovlogs?
Finally some correct information, just got my action 3 and trying to use it with the rode wireless go2, just bought the cheap usb-c phone adapter and sounds like crap lol, now just ordered the sennheiser usb-c to trs as boya seems to be out of stock in the Uk, many thanks for clearing this up!
Any samples of new sound mate ?
Thank you, you've solved my problem within two minutes of the start of the video. Excellent channel!
Thank you for making all confusion vaporized 👍🏻✔️🎉
More REAL information!! THANK YOU! I’m considering the OA3 as my upgrade purchase and this helped me understand my audio options. As an OLD (82) newbie to digital photography, I need all the help I can get!😂 Again, thanks… take care.
brilliant, I was getting crap audio and didn't know why. Now I've just ordered the right cable. thanks
Wayne, thanks for making these videos. I really hope to get my audio sounding this good. 👊🏼 nice to see a channel dedicated to producing audio. All these filing channels just talk about video and never audio.
You explained it very well, what microphone do you use on a daily basis? I mean professional microphone?
I think everyone wants to know what hardware you used (well… I would like to know…) for your audio in this very informative upload Wayne !!
It sounds superb!
Just the info I was looking for. Big thanks!
Very well explained difference between TRS and TRRS. I bought DJI Osmo 4 and I'm looking for a good setup for motovlogging. Generally, the sound of the engine means more to me than my speech, but for now, I don't have a clear idea of how to do it without having a hundred cables and accessories. First, I'll look for the Osmo Action 3.5mm Audio Adapter, which I think is designed for motorcyclists. As for recording two separate audio channels, I'll have to figure that out later.
Did you also record the beginning of this video with the mke 200 and the boya adapter or is the boya adapter just the recorded end of the video?
Thanks for your comments! The majority of the audio in this video was recorded with a Lewitt LCT-440 Pure studio condenser mic, which is my everyday mic that I use for my professional work. The MKE200 was only used in the 2 segments demonstrating the difference between the two adapters.
Very useful. Other videos on this topic did not provide any clarity. You did! Thank you!
The following I had tested with the Osmo Action 3 for audio. 1 - anything that for ipad will work. I tried usb c otg with usb sound card it work for my ipad and it work for the osmo 3. USB C audio adaptor made by apple for ipad or those made by samsung work perfectly. Ugreen usb audio adaptor with DAC will work too.
That's a lot of terminology for a newbie! I had to rewind (is that still a term used in video???) and re-listen to get it through my thick head, but it sunk in and I purchased the adapter you mentioned, along with a compatible mic, and it works great on my Osmo Action 3. Thanks for the thorough and clear explanation. Very helpful thanks :)
Maan this was so helpful thank you! I go Rode ViceoMicro and bought their SC7 cable and also TRRS to USB C and was wondering why it records with high pitch noise. Now it makes sense.
but wait does this also apply when Im connecting it to the phone? should that be also TRS or TRRS in this case?
I've bought so many things from Boya
Emm... as for the TRS/TRRS issue, you made a good point.
Great, thanks for sharing
I have a number of BOYA products and they all seem high quality. And speaking of TRS/TRRS, I didn't even mention about "smart sensing" TRRS connectors that detect the type of audio jack they're plugged into and send the audio signal accordingly... but that seems like another video for another day lol!
Great video. Saved me a bit of headache & confusion. Thank you!
Thanks for this video. I'm thinking of switching from GoPro to DJI given GoPro troubles. Helpful video.
Hi Wayne! I just bought the DJI Osmo mainly for skiing (I can't get enough of skiing), but I am considering using this camera for vlogs sometimes as the SONY A7RII's weight is a nightmare, and although it has some super cinematic colours, it's not worth lugging it all around. Thanks for telling me how to use the USB-C jack to plug my RODE microphone in! By the way, congrats on hitting 1.4K subs!
Thanks Isaac! Awesome that you found a new activity! You'll have to report back as to how the Action 3's "invisible" selfie stick is when they implement it and you're on the slopes! Personally, I think the convenience of the Action 3 is one of its strengths and I've been shooting a variety of different content with mine just about everyday. Hope you enjoy yours just as much!
@@WayneRECs I would love the try the feature on the slopes today!
@@WayneRECs you can remove the selfie stick with tje AI editor in DJI Mimo
Big fan of the Senn MKE-400 and love using it on my Lumix S5ii - but wasn't getting as good results on my iPhone with an adaptor.....now I know why - thanks for this video! I saw over on B&H that Sennheiser actually has a locking usb-c to 3.5 cable specifically for the little MKE mics - they really should have included this in their kit; it's called the Sennheiser CL 35 USB-C Locking 3.5mm -it's the same blue coil cable - high quality with locking ring.
Hey Wayne please help me as I have looked almost everything. Earlier I had a gopro from which I had a two mic setup and I was able to record from one mic and from another I was able to record audio from my intercom earbud. But I'm not finding any Similar way with type C port. It will be a great help as I can see you are an audio professional.
Thanks heaps I just purchased a DJI action 3 and will buy the usb c trs adapter.
Finally i found this solution about audio in oa3 distortion.. thank alot mate 😊
Brother! wow! Your explanation on all of this is just perfect! thank you so much!
Thank you so much for the information, i was searching like crazy for a TRRS working adapter that doesn't sounds like crap, now everything is so clear, only buy TRS adapter, thank you !
If you have a TRRS mic, you can add a RODE SC3 cable with a BOYA BY-K4 to get it to work correctly.
Thanks ! @@WayneRECs
Awesome! I am just starting vlogging...how ever when I have my purple panda lav mic on my dji, I get some crazy weird distortion, even with the Dji at -12dB on the mic input. I am using a Google Usb C to headphone plug - after watching this video I am hoping using a USB C to TRS cable will resolve the issue!
Thanks you so much this shit taught me a lot !! I had the apple adapters for head phone thinking it would work with my new wireless mic. Had I not seen this video I would have been screwed on my upcoming trip. So thanks now I have the correct connectors!!
Awesome! Glad it helped! Have a great trip!
Thank you soo much for clearing the confusion.
I had a type c microphone but it was too loud so I decided to switch back to my auxillary microphone (Was hoping I could just get a mircophone without any adapters but oh well)
I think I got the TRRS because it did not give me ANY audio lol. I'll get the TRS and hope for the best haha.
BIG THANKS!!!!! This video really helps me to understand this whole confusion!!!!
Cool and very informative video. Many thanks!
For my use case, I'd love to be able to BOTH have an external mike, as well as charge the Osmo 4 from an external power brick using the USB-C cable.
Is there a good dongle that essentially splits USB-C into TRS mic outlet plus an extra USB-C for charging?
Great video. Cleared man things up. Thanks for your help.
Thank you for this awesome explanation.
I have two questions though:
1.: Would it work to connect the TRSTRRS cable with any other 3.5mmUSB-C DAC adapter?
And 2.: what's your opinion on investing in a Rode VideoMic Go II and connecting directly via USB-C to the Osmo Action 3?
Hi, thanks for your comment! To answer your questions:
1) There is a wide variety of success when using TRRS to USB-C and/or TRS to TRRS adapters or any variations on these. A lot depends on the design of the 3.5mm to USB-C adapter. If it's a mic adapter, I've successfully used a TRRS mic into a TRRS to TRS adapter into the BY-K4. However, using some kind of TRRS to USB-C adapter instead, may not transmit the full audio signal. I think that answers your question?
2) While I like the VideoMic GO II, if you're looking to invest ~$100 USD, I'd seriously look at the new Deity V-Mic D4. It retails at $99 and has a USB-C output & a gain knob on the mic for more control. It also comes with better wind protection. Check out this video for my experience with it: czcams.com/video/I28Kq0k1-ZQ/video.html
Personally, when it comes to how the Action 3 handles audio, I've discovered you're much better off using a mic that has some kind of gain control as the Action 3's gain seems to be more of a digital volume control than and analog gain control.
Thank you for clearing this up. Waiting on the BY-K4 thanks to your vid. Now to figure out adding a second audio input to record a helmet intercom to the action 3. Thanks man. Subscribed and liked!
USB-C spec natively supports analog audio. So, there is no need in a converter "inside a cable". I'd say it depends more on cable quality and whether it supports transmission of analog audio from/to USB-C. Normally, a device that supports smart USB-C with analog audio has all the required converters and just need for the cable to deliver the analog audio to USB-C.
Hey Michael! Thanks for your comment! While USB-C can deliver analog audio, I don't think the Action 3 has the capability to accept and convert it via the USB-C port. Even though USB-C was meant to make everything easier and universal, there is so much diverse functionality that it can be super confusing (& frustrating). I personally think that digital audio via USB-C is the future (almost forced by phone manufacturers) and that eventually camera manufacturers will jump on board, much like DJI has done.
will this boya kyc m4 will work same with go pro 9/10 by just plugging usb c into the camera and using trs mic directly into it. Because then using that big chunkier go pro mic adapter wont be required anymore!
Thanks for your comment! While I don't have a Hero 9/10, I don't think any 3rd party USB-C to 3.5mm TRS mic adapters will work on a GoPro. I've tried them with my Hero 8 and it's a no go. Even though GoPros have a USB-C port, they are not enabled to accept USB mics or generic adapters. As is the case, GoPro makes you buy their proprietary MediaMods or their 3.5mm adapter dongle/brick. This is actually the primary reason I bought the Action 3 over the Hero 11.
@@WayneRECs thanks Wayne, thanks for all the help through your messages , i have been using go pro since last many years using brick adapter, finally bought the action 3 adventure kit and thought why not to replace the go pro and make action 3 as primary motovlogging camera, stumbled upon mic issues but now i guess i will buy lav usb-c mic from Sennheiser and plug in directly into DJI action cam, as that seems the hassle free option for anyone who is planning to use DJI action 3 camera on helmet while recording perfect audio.
you know audio used to to be simple with just a single plug. its worked since the 80s and now we are fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed. now I need to own mutiable capable and label them so I can pick it up and know it works. just adding more work but having usbc instead of nust a line in or mic input.
This video helped me a lot and decided to change from go pro hero 10 to DJI Osmo Action 3 because it accepts 3rd party USB to 3.5mm
So it does accepts TRS or TRRS!
What USB-C to 3.5mm cable did you use? I bought one from the internet and seems to be not working.
@@undaplavian I currently have a gopro hero 10, with the image and video quality for gopro and despite it over heats during long recording. I am thinking to go to DJI and came along with this helpful video. Seems to accept TRS/TRRS, and my main concern from this is am planning to feed the audio from an audio mixer.
@@ceejayfarley7 I do not know that that means, but I talked to the support about this and this was their recommendation to connect a TRS mic.
For the female jack 3.5mm please see the recommnded accessories:
1. Mailada: C35L/T;
2. BOYA: BY-K2
3. Saramonic: SR-C2001;
@@undaplavian this is nice, thank you for the information! I might get a dji soon
Thanks for great view man, very helpful for me to decide after buy DJI action 3 how and which the best one mic adapter, because this camera have good feature for Motovloging
Dont fall for it. Osmo Action 3 is Pathetic for motovlogging . You'll have voice clipping badly. I've wasted a lot of money with different mics and adapters. This camera has serious bugs
@@aqeeqansari yes I am facing same aduio clipping issue
@@aqeeqansari Hey man, do you have any clip with this audio clipping issue? I have a GoPro hero 9 that I use for Motovlogging and I have audio clipping issues at speeds higher than 70km/h, so I was looking to change for the OA3 but if it has the same issue I don't see the point of swapping
@@KafkaesqueRider yeah Im working on making a video. Will update in a day or two
Thanks for making this all clear. You're a good teacher :)
The aftermath 4 months after...
I did buy a Boya BY-K4 after watching your video. Thanks for the recommendation. It works well.
However, there's a "traditional" problem when I'm filming my phone or action cam like Sony RX0 with any external mic, the noise level rises drastically when I stop talking. It is obvious that these tiny electronic gadgets were trying to maintain the gain level by "compensating" the silence continuously. This didn't happen when I was using the internal mic of my cellphone.
And yesterday I got my Saramonic SR-EA2U, which is a simple USB Type-C audio for phones. The sound quality is just as good. Yet there's no such sharp increase of noise level in the silent part of recording. This reminds me of you saying digital input can be the future trend.
I was just wondering... have you ever experienced such problem of higher noise level in silent parts of recording with external mic? For me, it's almost universal. This still happened even when I connect the Rodecaster Pro II with Sony ZV-1 (not as serious as in other cases). Of course, I know to switch off the auto-level functionality of these devices. Yet that keeps bugging me somehow. Digital input could be really better in this respect.
Very good info. Oh my I’ve been misinformed from the past. Thank you for the lesson
Thanks Nestor! I think a lot of this also applies to the Action 2!
I have a samsung phone s24+, and looking for a USB-c to 3.5mm DAC, any you could recommend?
This information and knowledge will be well valued and applied thanks!!
Man.. If only they just put a 3.5mm input jack on the camera itself. :(
don’t get why it’s not
...and this is exactly why I refuse to buy any GoPro; because of their unnecessary proprietary and bulky external MIC adapter crap. Add the 3.5mm external MIC jack eliminate the need for the proprietary crap, and just charge another $49.00. I am looking for the best Vlogging camera system for riding and GoPro and their greedy marketing to force the use of extra bulky crap loses my interest.
@@johnnyappleseedz422 Not the video, not my comment is about a gopro.
Waterproofing issues I suspect?
Hello again buddy I got the lead for my dji action 3 but still getting bad audio but I use my camera for paramotor flying and get lots of engine noise the lead is connected to my head set directly to the camera its sound fine if I'm looking ahead but if I turn my head the sound is terrible is the a setting to cut out the mics on the camera or would it be the setting for the d/b in audio I'm at -6 or should I go up to the + setting as not getting the mic icon showing red when I talk I'm a bit confused with all this hahaha but you seem to know what your talking about thank you again
My godness thanks for this video 😂 Now I get why a lot of videos has that garbage audio and some of them are also comparisons! 🤦🏻♂️ Thank you again, I studied Sound engenering at school but I became a leather craftman. 👍🏼
very interesting, thank you for sharing big difference, in sound quality.
Wayne, Thanks for another excellent and informative video. I found an even simpler single cable solution with no dongles using the Sennheiser CL 35 USB-C Locking 3.5mm TRS to USB Type-C Coiled Cable (Mfr # 509262). I found it on B&H. I was able to connect the MKE200 directly to the USB-C on Action3 - No Boya adapter required.
Hey David! Great find! Aside from the BY-K4, I also have/use a BOYA BY-K2 which is a USB-C to 3.5mm male mic adapter (though it's not nicely coiled that the Sennheiser CL 35!) I like the CL 35 as it has a locking connector if you need that, but the price tag feels just a little too steep...
@@WayneRECs I agree the price is a little steep at $30 for Sennheiser vs. $19 for Boya dongle. but for me, it was worth an extra $11 to get a locking connector, coiled cord, and elimination of another dongle. I now just leave the locked cord permanently attached to the MKE200 and only have to connect the USB-C to the Action 3 and I am up and running.
Hi buddy. So I've a GO pro 11 and it's been exchanged 3 times and still not working. I'm getting a refund. Looking for something for vlogging on a motorbike. I've a purple panda mic which comes with a TRRS connector. Why would it do that if not the best and if I purchased an osmo 3 would you recommend changing the mic or what. Remember it's going inside a crash helmet so needs to be small.
Thanks for the video. Tim.
Smart move, allowing me to donate $5. You should be paid as consultants information is valuable. Thank you for helping me understand why my mic would not work with the action 3 and showing me a solution.
Thanks so much for the Coffee! I really appreciate it and am glad my video was helpful!
@@WayneRECs Coffee hell. That was meant to buy you Heineken.
Your video carries very much information. Thank you for making such video.👌👍
I need your help for…👇
I wish to record videos on a smartphone(iPhone or Android) or camera(DSLR-like) with professional audio connecting the newly purchased ‘iRig PRE 2’ which has a 3.5mm output jack that goes into the earphones or mic port of a smartphone or camera. But nowadays smartphones and cameras have type C port input so what type of 3.5mm to typeC converter can I use? Please.
Does the Apple original and Samsung original adapter with DAC chip inside work with any smartphone and any camera?
extremely useful video thank you sir
Just what we all needed!
I listened to entire video, I admire you are professional, but I couldn’t find my solution to my problem! I have rode mic with type C output port and sound card (mixer) with 3.5 mm ports and 48v ports. Which kind of cable or converter should buy to transfer the audio from Type C mic to 3.5 mm sound card ? Thank you 🙏🏻
What if you used the TRS to TRRS cable with a headphone adapter? Will it sound better? Also, do you know if any adapters that work for the Osmo Action 3 that also allows passthrough charging while using an external mic?
Thank you for this❤. And do you think K4 and K2 would not have any difference output at all?
Thank you! 🙏 That was really helpful!
Wow thank you so much, you saved so much of my time
What are your thoughts on the Saramonic SR-C2001 ?
Awesome explanation!
Thanks so much! I appreciate you saying so!
I realize this video is for the DJI camera but for people using a smartphone it might be a bit confusing to call the TRRS cable itself "garbage" because that's what they will need. It's not a garbage cable, it's just for a different device.
For that matter if they have a lav mic or several other camera mics I can think of they need the TRRS to USB-C cable even into the DJI camera.
Thanks as always for your comment! Lol, I suppose "garbage" is a little harsh and I apologize to any cable that I might have offended. Though buyer beware, if you do need a USB-C to 3.5mm TRRS headphone adapter, they are not all created equal and inexpensive ones may be prone to eventual failure.
And thanks for bringing up Mics with TRRS connectors. In those cases, I'd still advise against inexpensive USB-C to 3.5mm TRRS headphone adapters as they aren't designed to function that way. Instead, I recommend a TRRS female to TRS male adapter (like the RODE SC3) and then into something like the BY-K4. While I didn't show it in this video, the MKE200 with it's TRRS cable into the SC3 then BY-K4 produced clean audio. Alternatively, though I haven't personally tested it, I surmise the BOYA BY-K9 is also an option which is a TRRS female to USB-C male adapter specifically designed for Mics with TRRS connectors and smartphone USB-C ports.
@@WayneRECs I think all the cables are past that now, they have a short memory! 😉
In the case of a TS microphone, would it work fine with a TRS adaptor? (One audio channel of course)
Thank you very much. Everything is a little clearer. I have an action 3 and I bought the boya by-k4. I have to attach a microphone to my helmet to ride a motorcycle. Do I need to buy a trs or trrs wired microphone? Or another adapter that sits between the boya and the microphone? Do you have a link? I'm desperate 😔tkanks
Thx for the video. Just picked up an Action 4. So, the adapter and the mic cable have to be TRS yes? You can't use a TRRS adapter with a TRS mic cable because of the ADC circuitry in the adapter. But, can you use a TRS Boya adapter with a trrs mic cable? Also, I have several lav mics that are TRS, is there a way to use these with my USB-C iPad? Cheers.
Thanks for your questions! While I can't speak to ipad use, you actually can use a lav mic that has a TRRS male end. You would need (yet) another adapter like a RODE SC3 which would turn your TRRS mic into a TRS mic and then connect that to a BOYA BY-K4 adapter. Even though inexpensive USB-C headphone adapters are meant for TRRS cables, you're right in that they are not designed for TRRS mics. It's can be confusing as it seems like matching up like connectors should work, but the internal circuitry and the physical metal connections (of TRRS plugs & jacks) don't necessarily match.
Great information, So this is all good, i need the BY K4 TRS to connect to a Helmet Mic, so what mic do I get to do this? DJI sure didnt do a good job with a Mic plan!
Thanks for this video and explaining! Trying to get my DJI to recognize my mic for a motovlog setup. Will report back once I get a TRS cable... I had a TRRS at first and no signal really at all. =(
Thanks for your comment! Let me know how it works out!
Is it working?
Thank u. I now understand. Purchased🇦🇺👍
This reminds me of an interesting question. A lot of consumer-level wireless or shotgun mics (such as Saramonic Blink 500 or Comica CVM-VM20) will provide us with both TRS-TRS and TRS-TRRS cables right in the box, claiming that their products can work perfectly with both cameras and phones. I was wondering whether it makes difference in sound quality between using the included TRS-TRRS cable and TRRS-Type C adapter and using a TRS-TRS cable and TRS-Type C adapter like Boya BY-K4.
This question is making sense to me especially when I'm trying to use an external audio interface such as Zoom H5 and direct the audio signal to my phone. Your video makes me consider buying a Boya BY-K4 for a test. I'm also thinking about buying something like RODE AI-Micro. However, the capability of using an high-quality XLR mic is always inviting. 😃
OK, so I think I understand what you're asking. Here are my thoughts and things I've tested myself (though anyone can feel free to jump in and correct/clarify anything if I'm off base):
Historically, TRS & TRRS at a basic level are just two different ways to conduct a signal (TRS using a Tip/Ring/Sleeve in our case to send a Left/Right/Ground & TRRS using Tip/Ring/Ring/Sleeve to send (in our case) Left/Right/Ground/Mic. When I mic comes with both TRS/TRS & TRS/TRRS cables (like the MKE200) the TRS/TRRS is simply a cable that physically re-routs a TRS signal to a TRRS so that devices (like mobile phones that have 3.5mm TRRS jacks) can properly interpret the signal (TRRS jacks typically are expecting 4 different lines which is why typically TRS cables won't work, although today, some smart ports/cables can differentiate and adjust to accommodate both).
When a mic is plugged into a Smartphone via the TRS to TRRS cable, the mic is sending an Analog audio signal to the phone which then internally does the digital conversion. So the phone is doing the work. Older phones with 3.5mm jacks ALSO had the ability to SEND audio that was converted digitally internally OUT as an analog signal to things like headphones. The "magic" of TRRS was that in addition to sending out Left/Right/Ground (TRR) then could also receive Mic (S). This was to enable users to make phone calls and hear and speak to the caller.
Now things got all messed up when phone manufacturers stopped putting 3.5mm TRRS jacks in their phones and instead only had a USB-C port. Now, there needed to be USB-C to TRRS dongles to enable users to make calls with wired headsets. But these dongles didn't function the same way as "built-in 3.5mm jacks" and because smartphones had video capabilities, the desire to be able to input a (typical) TRS mic necessitated dongles like the BY-K4 which ensures the analog to digital conversion.
Now, when it comes down to your actual question (I think), audio quality really depends on the quality of the Analog to Digital Converter. When we're talking about recording into our phones, I have an older Samsung Galaxy S10. It has a USB-C port AND (still) a 3.5mm TRRS jack on the bottom. I also have a Comica VM-10 PRO which came with a TRS/TRS cable, a TRS/TRRS cable & a USB-C to USB-C cable. I'm able to record on my Android phone on an app called RecForge II successfully in 3 different ways:
- The VM-10 PRO (analog out) via TRS/TRRS cable into my phone's 3.5mm jack
- The VM-10 PRO (analog out) via TRS/TRS cable into the BOYA BY-K4 into my phone's USB-C port
- The VM-10 PRO (digital out) via USB-C to USB-C to my phone's USB-C port
When listening back on my studio monitors, the Digital USB-C to USB-C sounds ever so slightly better, but they basically all sound similar. I also tested the mic with the USB-C to TRRS headphone adapter in this video with the included TRS/TRRS cable and it sounded... well, like garbage lol!
But to get to your real question (lol), when it comes to something like an interface or external Zoom recorder, I've been able to successfully send audio from my Zoom H6 to my phone in 3 different ways. The first is putting the Zoom H6 into Audio Interface mode (PC/Mac Battery Powered) and connecting the H6 to my phone via a Mini USB to USB-C cable. This allowed me to use the X/Y capsule and also any of the 4 XLR inputs. BUT, in Audio Interface mode, I could not record internally on the Zoom H6.
The 2nd method which did allow for internal H6 recording was to use a TRS/TRS cable from the H6 Line Out into the BOYA BY-K4 into the USB-C port of my phone.
And the 3rd method was using the Line Out from the H6 with a TRS/TRRS cable to the 3.5mm jack of my phone.
Again all 3 methods sounded similar though it seemed that the Audio Interface mode was ever so slightly cleaner. So I guess the bottom line is the best audio quality comes from whichever device is doing the Analog Digital Conversion the best and/or what kind of functionality you're ultimately looking for!
@@WayneRECs Thank you very much for your detailed and professional response. I always think you deserve at least 10 or 20 times more views than you do now. Keep going.
Hey again! Fantastic, thanks for this :)
Holy crap. Now it starts making sense why my adapter doesn’t work with any lav microphone but all of sudden works with headphones with mic 🤦♂️
Just from my recent experience, avoid any USB-C audio cables that also include a headphone output on a split cable. I had one with a terrible hum.
Very helpful. Thank you!
So I’ve got the BOYA TRS adapter you’ve mentioned, does this mean I can use any standard 3.5mm jack Lav mic for my motorcycle helmet?
Or do I now need to look for a specific lav mic as well?
Also any recommendations for a quality mic under $120CAD?
Edit: Let me know if this works please and thanks, or if I’m missing something.
DJI Osmo Action 3 > USBC to TRS > Rode Lav 2 Mic > into motorcycle helmet.
Am I missing any components and should I add a dead cat cover for the mic?
Which is better for motorcycle? Rode Lav 2 or Rode Lav GO?
Thanks in advance.
Great video! Just wondering, is this adapter compatible with DJI RC2 controller (mini pro 4)? Thanks in advance.
Hi, with the Boya adapters being out of stock for many of us, after watching this video, I can say that the Saramonic SR-C2003 definitely works. I have done a video showing my new setup in a motovlogging situation. I had to put an in line volume control to soften the the mic’s output, as the audio was heavily distorted at speeds over 45mph. Wayne mentioned, there might be a future update, which would rectify this, I do hope he is right.
Wayne, I have put a link to this video, for other motovloggers in a similar situation that I was in. I hope this is ok.
Distortion is due to wind noise. You need to find a position for the mic where the wind noise does not bother the audio (try the cutout area for bluetooth earpiece), or switch to a full face helmet with better wind resistance.
@@tonyfowler3846 true, but beggars can’t be choosers. I am happy enough with my audio now, up to about 55mph, provided the bike I am riding doesn’t have a screen fitted. Dealing with the buffeting is a nightmare, I just don’t bother trying. Ultimately, a wireless mic system would be the way to go, but from what I have seen/heard, for moto vlogging, the audio is too sterile.
Terrific information!
I really need your advice on this matter,
I am planning to buy boya M1 pro which comes with a conventional TRRS jack, if i attach the TRRS jack to a "TRRS to a TRS adapter" and then connect it with boya boya K4,and then to dji action 3 will this sound good? or do i have to buy a mic that comes with a TRS output only?
please help👏
Great video. Would a USB C to TRS work ?
Thanks for this very useful video! Would you have any recommendation which mic I would need for the following environment: I want to record within sports cars a very native sound of the noises (especially of course engine and exhaust noises). So I assume it should be omnidirectional? But I should also be capable of handling loud noises? And "of course" I don't want to pay too much 😉
Hi, thanks for your comment! For something like your situation, I'd recommend you start with considering recording your audio in 32-bit float (as opposed to 24-bit or 16-bit). 32-bit float will give you the ability to record a normal environment and also extremely loud (or sudden or unexpectedly loud) sounds (like engine and exhaust noise).
With regards to mics, you'd likely want to prioritize one with a higher SPL (sound pressure level) to accommodate those louder sounds. While an omnidirectional pattern seems ideal, depending on how you're shooting your video in the car (camera placement) and where you are mounting your microphone, something like a stereo mic could give you some nice directional sounds.
Factoring overall cost, the new Zoom M3 MicTrak might be your best option. It is a 32-bit float recorder with a built in mic that can be switched between a mono pattern to a wide stereo recording (and comes in at $200 USD). While mine is en route, I do plan on making some videos about it after a bit of testing.
I have a DJI Action 4 camera, I will connect the BY-K2 TRS mic, will it work without any problems, thank you.
Thank you so much for the detailed info. Really appreciated. One QQ.. Would it work with Action 1?
No, unfortunately the Action 1 requires adapters specifically designed for that camera. You'll have to look for adapters/cables that specifically list compatibility with the Action 1.
@@WayneRECs Thanks Wayne.
I find the gain too high using an external mic, even with the camera gain set to the lowest DB in the settings. Could be the TRRS cable is was using. The other issue I have is there a way to run an external battery charging while using the external mic? Iike a USB c splitter? I tried one and it didn’t work, but maybe you had luck there
Hi! I'd love to finally use my Rode VideoMicro but I haven't found a good quality cable to plug it either to my MacBook Pro (M2. 3.5 jack and USBc) or to my cellphone (Samsung S20 FE)... it really seems to sound all crapy with the cables I've found.
Now... you just gave me the idea of using it directly into the 3.5 jack of the Mac (well... not you, me by watching your video LOL), but... what cable should I use if I want to use the mic for video calls or recording audio while listening to audio from the computer with headphones?
HELP! (sorry if I sound desperate hehe, it's been a year or more since I got myself a 50ish bucks mic and its frustrating not being able to properly use it)
Thank YOU!
You're welcome! Hope it helped!
@Wayne RECs - do you know of a way to get replacement USB-C cover/door for the Action 3?
The door either falls off or I have to remove the cover/door to connect the USB-C cable. I contacted DJI but the tech wasn't familiar with the cover/door and told me that since I didn't have the part number he couldn't find it. I'm wondering if the cover/door from the Action 2 would fit - but all the suppliers I could find seem to be non-USA. I got the impression that the cover/door for Action 2 was not allowed to be sold in the USA for some reason.
Let me know if you know the history for the Action 2 cover/door and if it might be usable on Action 3. I'm sure I will eventually lose the Action 3 cover/door and will need a backup.
hi wayne, what kind of cable should I use for my dji osmo action 3 and dji wireless mic?
I want to use a cable to connect my dji mic to my oa3, coz i'm planning to mount it on top of the cage that i bought, but I don't know what cable to buy, I already bought a cable 3.5 mm to usb type c but it doesn't work.
I have a "other way around" problem. I've been trying to find the solution for months now, and I cannot find the right solution. I need to connect my Rode Wireless Pro via USB-C output to my Lumix s5II TRS audio input. This way I will be able to connect two remote mics + use the TRRS port in the receiver to connect my MKE600 shotgun mic at the same time to the camera. But what Adapter/cable shoud i use in that case? Audio from USB-C to Audio I need your help in that. Thank you for your all tour contributions :)
Good info. Typically, though...TRRS in regards to cell phones was for T-left ch audio, R-right channel audio, R-Microphone, S-ground, most headphones for cell phones have a built in microphone. Other devices, camera, etc...are only looking for left and right audio channels....mixing and matching causes issue...a lot of times only one channel of audio is recorded and without explanations, like your video, some folks will go mad trying to figure it out.
Hey Ron! Thanks for your comment! I think these days it gets even more confusing for the layperson when smart-sensing devices were introduced (mics like the new Deity V-Mic D4 which only comes with a 3.5mm TRRS cable but detects whether the device its plugged into makes 3 connections/TRS or 4/TRRS. I see more confusion heading our way lol!
@@WayneRECs RIght on! Technology moves fast!
I bought a usb-c to female 3.5mm jack for a Rode Video Micro. The adapter is generic and unfortunately, I'm unable to get any audio to record. I am sending the adapter back and I have bought the Boya BY-K4 in its place. Other than that, are there any settings in the Osmo Action 3 that need to be set to make this setup work? Thanks
Why not use directly a cheap USB-C mic? Can I use the one that came with my Samsung smartphone?
Hi Wayne,
I bought a Boya BY-M1 Pro Omnidirectional Lavalier Condenser Microphone for my DJI Osmo Action 4. What type of coverter or converters do I need to make it work?
If you could amswer this for - between GRENARO J13 Wireless Microphone & action 4 as well.
Thanks in advance!
ok tnx, question is my cable is the other end is trrs and the other end is trs, so where do I insert? I'm using the usb c type adaptor
Have you tried boya by k2 or by k4 with iphone 15 pro series? I am still confused which one to buy to connect rode video micro ….
Helo sir please tell me that's is a adaptor has dac does it will work with osmo action 3 or should I buy directly a type c mic 🎤
I've been trying to connect an aviation headset to the DJI action 3. Aviation headset has plugs. I did this with a GoPro and a USB-C adapter, but when I try to use it with DJI Action 3 it doesn't work. Any help would be very much appreciated. Headset is a Bose A20. Aviation headsets have two plugs of different sizes, one of which I believe is a 1/4 inch.
So i have Comica Vimo C3 microphone with ( TRS - TRRS ) and ( TRS - TRS ) i wanna pair this with Osmo Action 4. And my question is what should i buy? the By-K2 or
By-K4? and if i buy the BY-K2 can i pair to Action 4 directly to the recievers microphone? ( YES OR NO ) And if i buy the BY-K4 i should use TRS-TRS? or TRS-TRRS? Hope this getting replied. Thank you!