How to Rebuild a Coleman Two or Three Burner Camp Stove - Part I, Disassembly
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- Part I of a 3 part series rebuilding a Coleman Camp stove. In this episode, Frank disassembles a Coleman 426B stove to prepare for cleaning. Other Stoves featured: Coleman No.1, Coleman No.2, Coleman No, 2E, Coleman No. 9D, Coleman 425B, Coleman 425D, Coleman 413E, Coleman 417B, Coleman 443.
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Coleman Factory Warranty Center graduate Frank Bebb gives step-by-step instructions to rebuild or refurbish Coleman gas pressure appliances. Trained at the Coleman Factory in Wichita, Kansas, he brings what he has learned at "Coleman School" to you in his teaching videos. A long-time collector, former owner of the #1 selling Coleman parts dealership in the world, former owner of the Coleman Warranty Center and The Old Town Coleman Museum in Yucca Valley, California, and current owner/webmaster of The Old Town Coleman Center, Frank has authored much of the Coleman repair instructions you will find on the web today. His "Safety First" instructions with the ominous black widow spider, a real-life warning read by thousands, along with his other written works can be found on his website.
Frank is now your host on the Old Town Coleman Video series, follow him for all the tips and tricks of the trade he has learned along the way.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Rebuild Coleman 2 or 3 burner camp stove introduction
00:50 - Coleman camp stove rebuild safety and preparation
02:18 - World famous OTC Intro
04:02 - Disassemble a Coleman camp stove tank
04:11 - Disassemble a Coleman camp stove fuel filler cap
04:53 - Remove Coleman camp stove valve wheel
05:00 - Remove Coleman camp stove pump
05:49 - Remove Coleman camp stove check valve
07:02 - Remove Coleman camp stove main fuel valve
07:46 - Disassemble a Coleman stove valve stem and generator
08:11 - Remove Coleman camp stove valve stem
09:57 - Remove Coleman camp stove generator
10:29 - Remove Coleman camp stove generator gas tip protector
11:12 - Disassemble Coleman camp stove fuel and air tube
11:58 - Remove Coleman camp stove old valve stem packing
12:29 - Remove Coleman camp stove generator rod from valve stem
13:36 - Remove Coleman camp stove lid from case
15:16 - Remove Coleman camp stove grates from case
16:04 - Remove Coleman camp stove grate with barbed tabs or clips
19:24 - Remove Coleman camp stove burner
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Mr. Coleman would be proud. ❤
Oh my, that is a very deep thought. He would be proud. He'd be proud of his product, and of the millions of users and enthusiasts he created.
We inherited three laterns, and a stove. With your videos, we were able to get two on the lanterns up and running. Working on the stove now, so thank you
Woo-hoo! My 426D arrives Tuesday! It looks new, probably won't rebuild it for a good while, but I'm excited about this video.
Nice stove, you're gonna love it.
Love this guy's shop. He looks like a time-traveller from the 1950s.
This is awesome! We're lucky to have someone with your experience share this information with the world!
Thank you, that is very kind!
Nice teardown Frank!
Perfect timing.... I just got a 426B. 👍🏻
Does it have a little grease for you to work with?
@@OldTownColeman - oh yes..... multiple layers.... lots of bacon been cooked on that thing since 1960! 😂😂😂
.... correction, mine is a 426 “C”
At last a video for 2 and 3 burner coleman stoves 🎉 👏👏👏 can wait for part two, thank you
There it is!
Thank you so very much for your 3 part video how to rebuild a Coleman Gas stove. I followed your instructions and my stove now works good as new. It had been sitting for well over 20 years. Gas was still in the tank..Oops! I did have difficulty getting the valve assembly loose from the tank, but after finding a very sturdy vice and application of muscle, it broke loose. No damage. I also needed to use my wife's hair dryer on 1500 watts to soften the LocTite of a couple of brass fittings. Thanks again for your masterful course on fixing the stove. I appreciate your help.
Glad you are back my friend THANK YOU FRANK FROM MONTANA.......PS. Good video
You're welcome from Frank from Idaho!
Excellent series and proper video. You are to be commended for your quality production and instruction
Thanks, Frank! Great info.
So pleased to see this video. I have a fairly good condition 2-burner, and now I know what to do to keep it running. Great info.
Thank you.
As always thanks for sharing your knowledge, been looking forward to this one.
I just did a stove night.. Nice timing.
Come on over. I have plenty more stove nights for you.
Im glad to see you back missed your videos
They must love you when it comes time for blood work; there are many visible entry points. Great content.
Oh boy do they! The young Navy lads who were just learning to poke people thought this young Marine was a gift from above!
I really appreciate these videos and it's great to have someone like yourself keeping these gems in operation. I lit my 431 this past weekend and once the smell and sound hit me I felt a sudden wave of peacefulness. It's something that not enough people get to experience I suspect
It is something that people nowadays don't get to experience. They're inside, too busy learning what their iPhone can do.
Thank you for sharing this info 👍
You are welcome!
Nice video, Frank! I hadn't seen any videos for while and was pleased to see a few new ones! Hope you have the time to keep them coming. We appreciate your efforts. Ya gotta love a 426! The third burner comes in VERY handy.
My only comment is for those with no experience with these, and it's just my opinion. If the check valve is working, don't mess with it. If it isn't, I recommend to spray carb cleaner down the pump tube and let it soak overnight first. Plug the pump tube to keep it from evaporating. Often, it's just some crude on ball or seat that won't let it seal. If that makes it work awesome.
I have the removal tool for a reason. If you have one, have no fear, go ahead and take it out. I highly recommend getting one if you work on Coleman stuff. Sometimes these things REALLY don't want to come out. Bottom line: If it's working, and you don't have the tool, it's just not worth the risk. Again, that's MY opinion. I've done a lot of them, but nowhere near as many as Frank. But Frank's got the tool too...... Hint, hint.
Frank's not kidding about the lighting lever. On this and some other Coleman valves, that packing WILL be destroyed if you pull the lighting lever. The lever is bent on both ends. One is the eccentric inside that makes a z bend and, of course the 90 degree bend on the part you flip up or down. It won't go through the graphite packing without damaging it. Again, I know this from my own personal experience ruining them. The school of hard knocks, as it were. haha!
I welcome all comments and dissenting opinions. I'm here to learn too. And I always learn something worthwhile here.
Thank you Mike. I concur with check valve--ditto for the stem packing. I'm still learning too...and hope that I always am.
Excellent video. Looking forward to the next one!
thanks for sharing your knowledge! Can't wait for part 2
Coming soon! Yw!
Looking forward to next video. I have rebuilt one stove. But I have a couple more to do. I would have never thought to heat the grate to get it out of the clips. I love all the tips! Thanks Frank
Sure is better than the grunt method.👍
Thank You Sir!
Thanks for this, now i know it's not as fragile as i thought and feel more comfortable tearing my 425 apart.
Hi, loved your video. It was quite informative my friend. Can't wait for the next video! Have a beautiful day!! Illinois, USA
Thank you! You too, from Idaho!
Hi Frank! Thanks for the great video! Will be eagerly awaiting the others! Some one really beat up that poor 426!
They sure did!
hell yeah, just got my first lantern this month and found your channel. def needed this video to help me with my stove!
You better get busy...!👍
Thanks for the Great content, has been a big help is restoring a old Coleman Lantern.
I found at a scrap yard. now to find a old stove !.
The only thing missing from my 426b is a tank. You know I'll be here for the next video
Mater are you missing the whole thing?
@@OldTownColeman I'll have to make sure it's a 426b but yes the whole tank
Great video Frank. I've refurbed/restored over 100 lanterns but never did a full fettle on a suitcase stove. By coincidence, my only 3 burner is a 426B gold tank. I pulled it out today and decided I better check to see if you had a video! I've already learned a few differences here such as the f/a tube metering rod and the cleaning rod... I'll be following part 2 and 3 as I make progress. Thanks again Frank!! (Lynn Klingel)
Great video Frank!
Thank you sir!
Great job
Hi Frank I just picked up a really old lantern. I believe it's a 327 from 1927 it's before they date stamped the founts. It doesn't even have a pump mechanism. I believe it needs an external pump to pressurize the fount. I was wondering if you could look into doing a broad overview on these 1920's Era quick lite lanterns? Thanks for everything you helped start my coleman addiction 😆
Yes, Quick Lites is one topic I will go into. There are a few "special" areas (milspecs, newer lanterns, etc.) that can be covered well in a single video. The biggest issue with those old girls are lighting them...patience required!
I just picked up a 1965 5B Explorer three burner. Ran great right of the box.
Excellent! Do you ever remove the latch and hinges for painting and rivet them back in?
Funny you should ask. I have a 426 torn down for rebuild that has too much rust. I now call it the rust-proof stove project and I'll need to remove the rivets to work on the case. Should be interesting.
Love this!! And the part about heating and bending the grate to remove from the clip style... I would have NEVER guessed that. I've tried to deal with that type unsuccessfully and was surprised at how you did it.
Sure is easier than bending cold steel. Which I did many times before engaging my brain...
@@OldTownColeman I was convinced there was some secret way to shim those tabs to remove them, but could not figure it out, ha. Thanks Frank
Just picked up a 3 burner not long ago so looking forward to breaking it down cleaning it up and firing it up again.
You'll love it!
If your 1/2” wrench/socket is ever too tight, you can use a 13mm which is just a tiny bit (0.3mm) bigger. Comes in handy for me all the time.
You bet it does! A set of 10-15mm is a good thing!
Great video. Thanks. I have two … think I paid around $75 or $80 new for them … back in the day. Just priced a new one yesterday at Home Hardware. $309!!! Gotta recondition my old one. 😀
Overall my Colemans (mostly from '68-'69 and very late 70's) were well cared for and stored in their original boxes. My issue is that one lamp and maybe 2 stoves were put away with fuel in the tanks, how do I deglaze the fuel tanks if need be. I'm thinking this may be a case of pay the shipping and send Coleman the $55.00 per appliance.
You can email me about this; oldtowncoleman@gmail.com. Future video on cleaning rusty and varnished tanks.
Frank, Thank You for uploading this video! I'm looking forward to part 2 for sure! I tried loosening and retightening the Generator on that old 425F that I emailed you a few weeks ago about and it still continued to leak by and upon further inspection I see that that tiny needle (tip cleaner) looks much narrower than the hole inside the tip so I just went ahead and ordered another generator from Leakcock Coleman center in PA which set me back over $40.00 + shipping, but I'm waiting on that to come in now. I appreciate all the help and advice that you've given me and wondered if there's an alternate way I can send you a little something for your time since I don't utilize buymeacoffee because I've noticed immediately they are connected to paypal which I do my best to stay away from for personal reasons.
Glad you ordered a new one and I appreciate your support. Our thoughts on PP are identical, and we can leave it at that.
An alternative way to support is to like and comment on our posts and videos, which you have, and to share our channel and posts when you can. It helps the algorithm, and it brings in more viewers. And the more people I can reach and help, the better.
I have an old Coleman 425E I am cleaning up / repairing. I am not able to unscrew the valve assembly from the tank. I have soaked the threads with penetrating oil, placed the brass part in a vice like you demonstrated on the video...still no luck unscrewing the valve from the tank. I'm concerned I will break something. Any ideas how to remove a stubborn valve assembly? Thanks.
Great video. I have a 413E that is the sister of yours. What year do you think yours is?
You mentioned for $55.00 Coleman would get your stove running? Is there a standard parts replaced for that $55.00? or is it just to get it working?
What do you soak your parts in for cleaning. I have been using vinegar and it seems to work really well
Question: I'm restoring a 425F. I couldn't figure out the packing so I sent it off and had it rebuilt. The tank is just full of air at this point. When I pump it up and then close the valve... sometimes it seems to shut off completely. sometimes there is a weeee bit of air still coming out the tip/generator tube... and if I back off the valve and close it again. That seems to do it. Is that normal with new packing? I'm guessing it is ... that I'm dealing with "Old" tech and that graphite can only seal so well. Or needs some breaking in time. Thoughts? Thanks!
When attempting removing the valve assembly from the tank, the fitting that is threaded came loose on the tank instead of the brass valve assembly unthreading. I’m assuming the method used to secure that threaded portion in place has failed. Anything that can be done to fix it? It just rotates around now. This is an older 413C, cylindrical tank.
What is the first thing you took off the lid/ what' is for? Great part one and I'm excited for what you'll do next.
Well I didn't call it anything in this video. In part 2, I refer to it. In part 3, I'll tell you what it is called and what it does.
@@OldTownColeman I look forward to it.
Great video master.I recently got a 242c lantern.Its tank Serious internal rust.I haven't thought of any way to get rid of the rust.Can you shoot a video to explain it?Thank you very much.
Look at part 2... If you have questions on Evaporust please email me at oldtowncoleman@gmail.com
Hi there, I have a stuck pile nut that won’t come off the bolt that holds the manifold on… One of them came right off… But the second one in a two burner stove would not come off. Is there a trick to getting the pile nut off? I used the 7/16 inch socket and the first one came right off but not the second one. It just turns and turns and turns. Do you have any recommendations? Thank you very much.
Hello. I'm excited to be receiving an old blue & gold/orange Sears stove from the mid-60's in the mail pretty soon; just purchased it. In prep for the arrival of this new (to me) baby, I've been watching CZcams videos. MattsGarage suggested I watch your videos, and I just started watching the first video of your 3-part disassembly/cleaning video. You mention in the 1st video that Coleman will do a full cleaning for $55 bucks. Is that information still current? I'm not opposed to doing it myself, but for $55 I'm interested in Coleman's work. If Coleman still does this for a fee: in your experience, do they do a good, and thorough job of clearning?
Question, I have an old Coleman stove, and when I turn it off, there is still a little bit of a flame, but it’s not the little bit of gas that’s still in the line, because it will just keep burning until I blow it out, so is it supposed to do that?
How long are you waiting before blowing it out?
@@silvermine2033 I think the first time I waited about 8 minutes, and it wasn’t going out, so I blew it out, but my Coleman lantern takes about 20-30 seconds before it goes out.
@@justanoldsoul6400 Yeah, after 8 minutes there's definitely a leak somewhere still feeding fuel into the generator.
If you pull your valve stem, I think you'll find a circle scored around the conical tip. This comes from people shutting the valve too hard--those parts are soft brass. If you take some 800grit sandpaper, you can very carefully remove the "scratch" and it will shut off again. Much more common on lanterns...
@@OldTownColeman ok, I will try that, thank you for your time.
does anyone know where i can get a generator for a 413D stove, or one that will work for my 413D ? . any help will be appricated. also this stove has the original fuel tank on it. it looks like a round piece of pipe with concave ends and its gold color. the tip cleaner needle on mine screws into the end of the tip cleaning rod. i have never seen one like this at all. but i know this stove is all original . it belonged to my grandfather and he only ever used it a small hand full of times then just put it away. i was thinking i may have to get a whole new or used valve assembly from a similar stove and maybe it would work
I can help! Please email me at oldtowncoleman@gmail.com
Great video Frank!
Thanks!