Acebeam Terminator M1 Ultimate combo flood and throw! [unedited]
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2023
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Sorry for the quick and dirty video, but life's been hectic and I didn't want to sit on this product any longer--it's great! - Věda a technologie
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I’m always waiting for a new neighbor come power walking over asking “what the hell are you doing?!?!”
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The day I got my Owleyes W Pro V2 I waved it around in the sky in my back yard. When I came around front I see my neighbor waving his finger at the sky telling another neighbor what he saw. I went inside pulled up my front door security camera and watched them trip out for like 15 mins 😂.
Awesome looking torch and so cool to operate. But it’s missing something, any guesses, a Red laser, Terminator style.
@Gilster85 you are a soul after my own heart. Cheers!
Whenever he lights up his neighbor's house I picture the "limmy wakes up" meme
Definitely an enthusiast light that truly combines the best of both worlds. Great LEP throw paired with a beautiful hybrid flood beam. I'm excited to see how this will inspire other competitors to step-up their game and put their own flair on a similar product. Even with the novelty premium pricing, it's still a great deal at $280 considering everything you get. I was about to spend over $200 on 2 different flood and throw lights when I can just get a far smaller and unique combo that comes with a badass case :)
wow you have some really patient neighbors. Cool lite.
I am thrilled you gave the M1 such a glowing review. I love zoomable LEPs and almost got a Loop but was rewarded with the M1 instead and was also surprised by its performance. So you know the LEP turbo only seems slightly brighter but it ramps up in intensity (doubles) over 10 seconds. Quite an achievement to best an excellent combo light like the Marauder in such a small package. The Nichia 519A of the M1 is best in class for high CRI flood greatness with its incredibly even beam. And the LEP module has more output than anything near its size, especially turbo. Generous runtimes from the 21700 cell. Built like a tank, great thermal mass for size. So glad the M1 impressed you. Nice hat, it gives you a benevolent wizard vibe. Keep up your great work, i appreciate you!
Well said, I agree with it all!
Spot on mate with your opinion.
Awesome to see your face-love the beard! This light is definitely on my wishlist. Awesome form-factor for a compact, all-in-one bag light.
Great quick and thorough video. I just wish both lights could do flood and throw at the same time. One can only dream. Thanks again
My DM1.12 had that ability, and I shut it off in Anduril, I didn’t like the heat generation and battery drain.
I just got my M1.
I love it ❤ my favourite light at the moment !
Nice 👍
Thank you for making this review video. I just got my M1 this week. I think that the ability to switch between flood and throw makes it very useful. The ability to zoom the LEP is very welcome. It performs as well as lights that are much larger. I love the form factor, which is one of the reasons I bought it. One criticism I have is that while it comes with a nice box, I wish that it came with some sort of case or holster. It is small enough that it begs to be carried, so even a clip would be helpful. I separately purchased a cheap EDC case to prevent the light from getting banged up (also great for holding the charging cable and extra O-rings). LEPs are delicate compared to LEDs. I would not want to leave this light naked in the glove box of my car.
I agree, this should come in a drawstring bag inside the hard case.
What EEC case did you choose?
I just bought one hehe, i love hearing you gush over the m1, I'm very excited for it to arrive.
If they had a weapon mounted light variant of this with some consideration put into the switch layout it would totally stomp on the competition.
that's what I was thinking, but infrared
Agree totally, it's a matter of time.
damn, the rendering on the LEP is crazy looking on the trees.
My dream pocket-followspot is pretty near to existing
I really like mine but the only slight disappointment is the poor run time on moonlight. Normally it would be about 20-70 days on a 21700 from Acebeam or Thrunite but this one is about 3 days from memory. Thanks for the video.
I think the 2.8 days moonlight runtime is a typo. Its 30 lumen rated runtime is 22 hours and 90 lumens for 14 hours, which makes sense for a 5000mah cell. Moonlight is rated at 0.5lm. I know runtime vs output is nonlinear, but how can you run 30 lumens for almost a full day but 1/60th the power for moonlight for only 3x longer runtime? Unless the driver has a huge resistive loss just to get low lumen output. The E70 mini which uses the same 519A triple and 18650 3100mah cell has a 12 lumen rated "moonlight" mode with a 100 hour runtime. I hazard a guess that they meant 28 not 2.8 days for the M1. I can say that the 0.5 lumen rating is off, I would guess around 1-2 lumen seems right.
My only gripes with the light are I wish there was a more detailed battery remaining indicator and more clearance for the insanely difficult lanyard install. Otherwise Acebeam hit a home run with the M1.
Please don’t make me test this 😆
@@cheule I was just out with my M1 and the moment you left this comment I had the ridiculous thought of doing the moonlight endurance test myself just for fun 🙃 😅
@@cheuleplease test this
This is awesome, just purchased this light after watching your video!
I think the marauder mini takes the win. In wide open areas the Marauder does an amazing job lights up a field plus the Red light on the Marauder is really helpful.
Both great lights.
Definitely a cool release, nice seeing acebeam make an lep again. I still think the marauder mini is a little better tho. Sure the acebeam throws way more but the lep on it isnt that bright, at least compared to something like my nextorch or weltools. The round emitter in the marauder is just much more usable.
Plus its way brighter in flood and has the rgb leds. Must be the only situation where i prefer an olight to a acebeam.
It’s hard to describe why in a comment, but I vastly prefer the Acebeam. The form factor is much better, and with better close up and distance lighting, I would think if you had both in hand you’d probably agree.
@@cheule yeah. It's probably better from an objective standpoint. Especially because of the battery situation. But not a fan of the design and it just has to tick a few boxes before I spent 300+ on a light
@@cheule seems like a great light, but I think the RGB on the mini makes it a tad bit more versatile. I'd also be interested in knowing how well it sustains brightness compared to the mini.
I have both lights and I would agree with you that the AceBeam is a better light with much nicer tint on the LEDCRI 90. It’s not even close with the throw capabilities between both lights. On top of that you can change your distance and hotspot size on the LEP on the M1. I’m excited and waiting for my WelTool W3 pro Tac wich should be here this week.Great job as always and very informative on your website.
Update to my earlier post 13 days later
- Drat, mine turned on again yesterday, while on lockout, "and' in a soft case in my pocket, but unlike last time when i had been using led last, and it turning on in ultralow led, this time it turned on in high lep mode, very nasty.
As usual i only noticed when my leg started getting burning hot.
So seems only way to stop it happening, is remove battery or tail cap, which makes it useless as a always in pocket torch, with the additional time needed to get some light(and trying to reassemble in the dark), very disappointed now, so i will not be carrying it any more.
Certainly not a torch i would currently recommend, for pocket carrying with these issues, unless they fix them(add a switched tail cap would be the easiest fix), but currently its best kept in its supplied hard case, with battery removed, in my opinion.
A real pity, after how much i liked the x75, with its sliding lock.
Wow, this is the first I’ve heard of this. Is the light exiting lockout?
@@cheule sure is, all it needs is something to press against it for a few seconds. Been thinking that maybe the supplied lanyard on it, with its hard plastic piece, could be to blame, and possibly the scratches on lep's lens could be from the hard plastic adjuster
When Olight put it on promotion the price is much more affordable. It is even cheaper more the half the price to the Acebeam. I’m still sticking with the Marauder for this reason since the output doesn’t dramatically difference.
Totally understandable. I have very very expensive lights in my collection, so for me-performance is king, I’ll pay the premium.
leps are very expensive sadly yeah. I must say i prefer the marauder as well. The rgb lights are a bonus for me plus i much prefer the design.
Cheers for the video. Very informative, i’m sold and just purchased one due to your review. 👍
Sweet light!
Great review thanks!
Had mine a few day's now and I have to agree. Awesome bit of kit.
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Wow, thats some crazy light. In new in lights. Got a few like nitecore tip se, lumintop frog, silverfox etc,, but havent seen a dual flashlight. I might be keeping an eye on this one. Great review.
I was really tempted to go with the M2-X at less than half the price, but it doesn't have a Hi-CRI option, plus no LEP. Hoping there will be a Labor Day sale on it.... Thanks for the great review!
Well. I didn’t have any plans for a new light until now. Id written this off as gimmicky, and written off Zoomies since my first little £3 CREE like 15 years back, but definitely coming around, now! Nice little review man. No need for flashy edits on this review
Thought for sure this would rifle mount as a DBAL-A3 comes to mind with the design haha. Overall, a great bit of kit!! Some impressive output for a combo!
Quick question......can you have both sides on at the same time?
My M2 I can triple tap, and get both the flood & the spot. Can’t do that on the maurader mini. Can you get the M1 to turn on both the spot and flood like the M2 can?
Hi
Nice flashlight but Not cheap
WhatsApp Do you think about the lumintop thor pro ?
Don’t need to see anymore if I have to take the battery out to charge
I got to admit that the 519a look a lot better than whatever LED Olight uses...
Osram P9 6000K vs Nichia 519A 5000K… it’s no contest.
@@cheule I do wish Olight would focus more on tint and color rendering as opposed to output. They really make a compelling product but that blue/green tint in most of their emitters is just yucky. A baton 3 with 519A 4000K would be 👌
Im surprised that the 519a's put out 3000 lumens when Acebeam said that they would put out 2300 😅
I think I said “near 3000,” I read 2850 lumens on my tube at 10s.
Olight gritting their teeth right now
How is it compared to nitecore p35i or mateminco fw3,they are in the same category.
Thanks
I’ve never owned either, but a quick search reveals that the FW3 has a range of about ~1400m and I measure the Terminator M1 at ~1700m. That combined with a nicer form factor and zoomability, I’d guess I’d prefer the M1. But that’s just conjecture.
I noticed in the video you said that you got the neutral light version instead of the cool White. Any reason as to why a person would choose neutral over cool white or vice versa? Any advantages or disadvantages between one or the other?
Neutral lighting is best for seeing colors rather than cool white which is brighter , to me it would be easier on the eyes when transitioning in the dark .
When I saw the throw beam it was over.
I’m getting one now
I would really consider this, but I just got a Seeker 4 and Marauder Mini bundled for $200. I am still on a search for an lep though, what do you think it's the best budget LEP right now? I'm kind of looking at the lumintop thor 3
The Thor 3 is an excellent inexpensive LEP. I think you’re making solid decisions.
@@cheule The cheapest I've seen it is at $150ish do you think it's worth that price or should I wait to see if there are any sales.
I gave my mini away!
Olight is overrated.
The Acebeam M1 looks crazy 🤪 I'm getting me one !!
Do the other people living in this street/part of town like you?
Being liked is overrated. Being feared is my goal. Fear my 100,000 lumens!
@@cheule That's the spirit! ... :)
Would be awesome with an sft40 for the zoomy side ... that and about a $200 price drop!!!
The SFT40 would absolutely make a cheaper light, but it’s hard to argue with 1700m throw without getting hot!
Very interesting light. At twice the price it is hard for me to recommend over the bigger marauder mini though (and I do like the colors). But with the LEP... that is pretty sweet. It does just seem like 2 lights strapped together. For me, when I care about size I just take the Fenix HM71R headlamp with its flood and throw separate lenses and can just leave the head strap behind but waaaaaay less power. Have you compared to something like the Nitecore TM20K? Or Fenix LR40R V2.0? This gets into that price point... but those are probably way bigger. Will be interesting once you have more time with it to do a time test too with that smaller battery.
The price has less to do with “capability,” and more to do with technology cost. LEP tech is pretty pricy. But in practice (and price aside), I find the M1 more compelling than the Marauder Mini. The amount of light packed in such a portable package somehow amplifies how cool it all is.
@@cheule Totally understand, especially for a collector like yourself. I'll be curious how long it can go and what kind of scenarios it would then be useful for... that Nitecore and Fenix are certainly bigger!
Poor 🐿️ looking like “wtf?!??”
Hi there. Could you please explain the difference between the LEP and 5000k LED and the LEP and 6500k LED? What are the benefits as there is a $20 difference in price. Many thanks.
I prefer the 5000K, because it looks more like sunlight, while the 6500K is more blue. Also, the 5000K shows better colors, because it is high CRI.
Thanks for the advice!@@cheule
Great review, the word you were looking for is "operable."
Does the LEP's zoom head still fall into the "zoomies are bad" for normal LED flashlights?
No, because in this configuration the max output is also the max candela configuration. You only lose output when zooming out
💯 agree
@@maggi98mw From what I understand, the main concern with zoomies is that because the volume inside the head has to change for the optics to move, you get moisture in the head. Do LEPs zooming suffer from this same issue?
@@KristopherCost propably
Fine I just bought one.
How does this stack against the new M2?
This has more throw, and a much tighter hotspot. So if you want max throw, go M1. If you want a wider throw beam, go M2. Also, the controls on M1 are arguably better than M2.
Do you find it is truly a jack-of-all-trades, master of none? I'd imagine bundling a triple 519a setup with an LEP is literally pulling the best of both worlds together. Does it fall short of the E75 with the quad emitter or dedicated LEPs? Also curious how you feel about possible button activation in pocket. Seems very interest but well beyond my budget...
I do find it falls short of dedicated lights, but not enough for me to feel like I have the wrong tool in my hand. With the marauder mini and DM1.12 I always wished I had the “better” tool in my hand. Does that make sense?
Mine has turned on in my pocket, even though on lockout. Reason is its just a long press on power button to lock/unlock, so easy for something else in pocket to press against and turn it on. Unscrewing battery tube a few turns does not stop it either. Also found lep's lens is getting scratched, possibly by sand(i live at a beach), managed to polish most out with ceramic hob cleaner, but disappointed its doing this already, so now have to use a sunglasses case for protection.(yet my sofirn if22a after 1-2 years in pocket, has vey few marks on it's lens).
Edit, Drat, i have since noticed lens has a coating which has been removed when polishing too, seems silly that coating is on outside of lens, no idea what its actually on it for.
i'm paranoid of using something like this too much in a neighborhood because the police could create a theory that we are purposefully trying to annoy people with the light lol.
You sound like me 😂 to enthusiastic about flashlights my wife says. I also grant bonus points for LOTR reference
fl tajam bersinar...i like both M2 and M1...happy have both in my hand...
Damn it!....Another flashlight to buy and hide from my wife!
Take the LEP and make it a tac light with Mlok and wow!
This one checks a lot of boxes by itself that I'd have to buy several other lights to accomplish the same thing...
+1 for the LOTR reference!
Glad someone liked it-sometimes I make jokes just for myself :)
I got mine a few days ago. Build quality is amazing! For the size it’s crazy how it’s dual LEP and LED PLUS the LEP zooms! I love it!
BTW, I replaced the battery for a molicel P45B. I’m not sure if it made a difference tho. Do you know if the M1 has a current driver?
I’m assuming it has a boost driver by how it ramps up lumens on the tube, but that’s just a guess.
nice
Man this is sick. If they only had a pic mount for it, it'd be a pretty ideal little light rig for a gun. That's generally the problem I have when looking for something high lumen for a home defense rifle or something.
Like, the "manual of arms" (not the right usage of the term but it might as well be), the paradigm anyways, is for Mil and LE is to basically pay $600+ clunking together some weird combo of modlight, cloud defensive, and surefire with an Arisaka mount that STILL ends up spitting out a thousand lumens...
Like, if you're trying to make yourself harder to shoot, you want something BLINDING in all situations so I just can't comprehend why they stay with these expensive 1000 lumen lights.
Now, if you look at Surefire's IR lights under night vision? It starts to make sense why you might want to focus more on shaping that beam and stuff but for just general use?
They're more or less trash compared to Acebeam or even Nightcore and other companies out there. In fact, so are OLights.
Why are all the most popular lights trash?
But, BUT: Maurader mini has RGB That is huge!
Cheule face reveal? Excellent light!
well,... the LEP stays memorized because you dialed it there specifically. heehhe
I’m saying the output channels are memorized independently. Most channels if you set the LED to high, the LEP is now on high too.
Honestly, the olights flood is better imo but the range of the terminators throw is much better. For that reason I'd buy the ace beam.
Ps I have the full size Marauder 2 and the thing is soooo versatile (I like the square spotlight) but I just wish it had a handle like the acebeam x75
@cheule, vs Lumintop Thor Pro?
This light is in a totally different class., because it’s so much smaller. Similar concepts, yes. And Lumintop might actually out perform this, but you can’t beat how much they packed into something that will fit in a front jeans pocket.
Sub! I was looking for this light vs my maurader mini. And look what I found!
6500k or 5000k in this video?
Nichia 5000K
I really don’t think comparing a LEP to LED is all that great. Yes both combo lights but I think I’ll stick with my marauder.
The mini can also be fully controlled with the left hand but looking at the other, it seems you need to be right handed only to fully utilise buttons and the LEP focus dial with one hand..?
For a combo, I’d rather the Thor 4
Awesome combo light! I might buy it in the summer,If it's still available in Romania. I have Marauder Mini and it's a great flashlight but it's to powerfull on low setting on food. And should have UV instead blue light. Just my opinion...😅
The low on M1 is much lower!
its humbling to see how far the Chinese have taken lighting technology compared to anything available from American makers.
I've always loved Olight for their build quality, I had the Marauder 2 but it was too hefty so I sold it for a profit. Just bought the seeker Pro 4 for my collection which I love.
I've always been put off from Acebeam due to questionable quality/Customer service. Have they improved at all? This thing looks incredible.
Thanks for the review.
Some of the best quality flashlights on the market IMO, and any issues i’ve had have been solved within 24 hours of sending an email over :)
@@joyfulgore Thank you, that's good to hear.
ive never had to contact their support but i feel like people in the community can agree that acebeam is at the very top with maybe a couple other brands when it comes to quality
@mikeenslin3009 In my experience, Acebeam has also been the he only flashlight brand that ships from China to my house in the UK in just 4 days.
Acebeam has great quality, the customer service is probably not comparable to Olight.
I would always take a Marauder Mini over this. LEPs are cool but generally useless for actual use
Still best from nitcore about flash light
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸Great Video that is one bad 🐴🐴🐴light 👍👍👍👍👍🤯🤯🤯🙀😳😎😎do it all and they should make a mount for that to fit on an AR mabe not for a war light but it will def have its reasons🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thor 4 more enchanting
The ace is $100 more than the Olight it better be better
didn't expect u hv bought this!
A viewer asked, so I thought “what the heck”
Even the box is better rhen anything olight has lol
It’s actually “Laser Excited Phosphor”
It is, just an off-the-cuff misspeak.
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the problem is that this light is useless. the maurauder is very very usable. marauder mini is 140 dollars in olight sales and acebeam is 300. its innovative but useless.
I think useless is an excessive term for it. I got my M1 for $240 shipped direct from Acebeam with discount codes. The Loop SK-01 zoomable LEP is almost $400 with inferior performance. The Marauder has sickly CW flood LEDs, the M1 has gold standard high CRI Nichia 519A s for a stunning wide even flood. The zoom LEP is best in class. The Marauder is a great design but the M1 handily outperforms it in a much more compact package. Makes it extremely useful to me. Quality is not cheap. And the M1 is anything but useless unless you leave the battery out.
Well, let’s say $199 vs $279 (Acebeam has sales too, best to use MSRP) and I don’t know if I agree with useless at all. This light has me thinking I could sell a few of my other combo lights.
let me put it this way. would you ever use this light for another reason than a review? @@cheule
@@the_nma5119i just ordered it for exactly the reasons he mentioned AND showed quite impressively. It is an extremely versatile light, compact, not too expensive for what you get. You can't even tell us why it it useless so your comment is just plain useless itself.