"SHOOT TO KILL" WORLD WAR II BRITISH ARMY INFANTRY WEAPONS TRAINING FILM BREN GUN 17124
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This World War II-era British training film, produced by Byron Pictures, Ltd., shows the importance of waiting for a target to move into the ideal range of a series of guns in order to have the best shot possible. The film covers the defensive and offensive firing of a Thompson submachine gun, a standard rifle (appears to be a Lee-Enfield rifle), a Bren light machine gun, the Boys Anti-Tank Rifle, and the anti-tank Ordnance QF 2-pounder by giving scenarios of incorrectly firing too soon followed by a scenario of correctly firing the various guns when the targets are in the most desired range to effectively shoot to kill. The film opens with footage of WWII and Nazi forces driving tanks and moving artillery. The film superimposes images of featured weapons, showing a Thompson submachine gun, the Bren gun, the anti-tank rifle, and the rifle. The first scenario of the film shows a unit in a foxhole across an open field surrounded by woods and bush. There is a panning shot of the field. The British troops sit in a foxhole (02:07). A corporal examines his range card. German troops emerge from the woods (03:08), and the British troops fire their rifles, missing the Nazis. The corporal explains the range to his men in the foxhole (04:14). Two Germans leave the woods, and a British soldier aims his Bren machine gun at them. More Germans emerge from the woods and cross the field, moving closer to the position of the British troops. The corporal gives the order for rapid fire (07:24), and the soldier fires the Bren gun. He ceases fire, and the rest of the men fire their Lee-Enfield rifles at the German soldiers. Next, the film covers how to effectively use the anti-tank rifle. Viewers see the anti-tank rifle that fires .55 bullets (08:43). A light British tank sits idle, and a British sergeant explains how to angle a penetrating shot with the anti-tank rifle. An anti-tank rifleman hides with his observer in brush (10:20). They see several tanks driving down a road. The rifleman fires too soon (11:23), and the tanks move off the road. Viewers see a tank approach the British soldiers’ position. The film shows the same scenario again, but with a rifleman waiting for the “kill shot” (12:44). He fires three shots and each punctures the tank. Next, the film shows the Thompson submachine gun (14:06). A patrol leader rounds a building and takes up a firing position as a German patrol moves up the road. He fires early and gives the Germans the initiative. The film shows the same scenario but in the countryside. The British patrol slowly moves through an opening in the brush. A soldier gives the warning (16:08), and the soldiers take cover and wait for the German soldiers to close in. The Nazis get within range and the British corporal fires on the German troops (16:54), killing them. The film then shows footage of German planes flying in the sky (17:40). A British soldier fires his rifle at a plane. The film shows another soldier firing a Bren gun at a plane. British troops march down a rural road (18:35). The section leader spots two planes and the men fire at the planes, despite the planes being too high to be shot. The film shows the same scenario, but the British patrol fires on a diving German plane that is within their range, hitting the plane and causing it to crash. The plane is shown burning in a field. A transport convoy waits in a woods (21:18). A German bomber drops ordnance on the position after a British soldier gave the position away. The film replays the scenario, and a sentry spots several Nazi dive bombers. A Bren gunner fires on the approaching plane and hits it (23:24). The film then discusses how the same principles apply in offensive situations. The film shows a diagram of a piece of terrain where an attack is to be carried out (24:33). An assault force tries to move, but German forces fire on them (26:12). In the second scenario, the British troops move between gaps of brush while the cover-fire squad refrains from firing to soon. A man signals to the corporal of the cover-fire squad, and he gives the order for rapid fire (28:14). The film then shows the proper way to conceal and operate the anti-tank Ordnance QF 2-pounder (29:00). Tanks move toward the anti-tank gun’s position. They sight in the tanks and fire the anti-tank gun (31:44). The film concludes by showing the different guns featured in the film and briefly replaying the different scenarios, as the narrator recaps the importance of holding fire until targets are within ideal range to effectively “shoot to kill.”
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Lies lies lies. !🤗👋👋👋
@@r.s.dissendissen6752 what are you talking about?
@@r.s.dissendissen6752 you mad the money isn't going to you?
Pretty sure they have to pay for some of the films, which can be quite expensive due to them being so rare and historic if they haven't been collected and copied already. Or something like that.
3:07 "Stab my vitals, it IS the enemy! Now then, what are our chaps going to do about it?" This shit is gold
What will they do about it? They will get out there and stab their vitals!
@@lezlezman1843 exactly
"Who done that? One section of riflemen done that." 😂😂😂
By jove it is!
@@Sarah.Riedel Yeh, Jive talking was not invented in Harlem by African Americans, it was invented by Eton educated BBC war training narrators. Dem Ruperts gone done that, because them hep to the Jive.
6:07 yes the Germans were very fond of randomly saying “hiel hitler”
Klop!
Captain Tyrrell what
@Wesley porter- It is a catch phrase of a German officer in the British WW2 sitcom called "Allo, Allo!". See this...
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Sorry bout the double reply m8
-"Tank!"
-"Ok."
I can't keep up with these complicated military terms.
I have studied this training video very carefully, and I think the real message is not to shoot too soon.
My first girlfriend taught me that.
domt forget "shoot to kill"
Well, more not to shoot untill you're sure they are in range. They could be in range almost immediately as you spot them so it's not really don't shoot quick, just don't shoot when it won't kill them cause you'll give up your position
Damn mankind has come a long way in 80year.
@@FemboyVegeta In the North of Ireland it was better to wound send home drain enemy resources and plays with the minds of the folk who come to see him , compensation for years it's cruel but conflict must be this way. Eire32
"Off we go, then!" - the Brits made everything sound so much fun!
@alex---Such a jolly wheeze .The soldiers preferred war to going on holiday.
Well done, Corporal - you Shot to Kill!
There he is. Now what are our chaps going to do about it? Why we'll let em have it. ☕
@uncletigger Were they German?
"...and Bob's you uncle"
"500 yards the yellow bush with effective rifle range..."
*everything is black and white*
-Soldiers: shite.
@WhiteShadow2k1 Yes I believe that that is true kind sir!
XD
"Never mind that! Off you go chaps!"
@@MrFriendlyCsgoContent those aren't world wars
@@Moses_VII true
My grandad was a Bren gunner in the Royal Artillery, it’s weird thinking this is probably something he watched during training... I can just imagine the banter between the men after watching this 😂
Liar.
I am an American but have lots of great uncles that were in the US Navy during and after WWII and... I know exactly how they reacted to this kind of film after viewing and officers vacated their immediate premise. Viscous mockery.
Granted, American training films tried (and try) way harder to be 'relatable' and 'entertaining', which with a bunch of ornery southerners went over about as well as you'd expect.
Still, I can hear them now. "Hey Ted, be sure to wait for the enemy to be in range." "You mean I shouldn't just start firing wildly the second I hear some bushes rustling? That's how I go deer hunting." "How many deer you bag Ted?" "Well, none." "Last season?" "In my lifetime, though I did shoot a few people from time to time so it'll work in war won't it?"
@@MichaelKingsfordGray Not necessarily. My grandfather was also a machine gunner, carried the Bren here in Malaya (now known as Malaysia).
@@f1r3hunt3rz5 I do not believe you, anonymous coward.
You lie about something as basically courteous as your real name. What else, less important do you lie about?
Go away, or grow up.
@@girlbuu9403 Like being there in person lmao
7:31 You can see Jerry stop briefly to praise the sun before being overcome by his wounds.
"You Died"
When those Jerries hid in the wood it was WW1, when they came out 30 years later, they blundered right into a WW2 training film!
What bad luck!
The Germans are wearing world war I style German helmets and carrying British rifles.
@@brucemccreary38 Did you not get the joke?
XD You made my day...thx!
This was the bavarian politician from " Freie Wähler ( Free Voters ) Hubert Aiwanger, because of the " Heil Hitler "😂😂😂
"yellow bush"
I'll take his word for it.
A gorse is a yellow bush also...
1, its a black and white video
2, governments lie
Is double joke mate
i hear yellow bush, what comes into my mind is a blonde chick
At this time color was mainly not invented, i think the bush was ment to be a yellow bush, but it was no painted by the moment.
Afterwards, they relaxed in the mess hall while watching a game of snooker.
People of the future will laugh at us now and wonder how we watched anything without a brain interface emotion generation chip..!
i like that the German soldiers are all wearing WW1 type helmets, because that's all the British had available.
They're also wearing WW1 uniforms with "eagles" sewed to the breasts. Sort of surprised they gave the "Germans" SMLEs instead of old G98s they no doubt had lying around.
Lovely uniforms nonetheless. The lot of them. I personally think that the British uniforms don't look half bad either.
ww1 and ww2 german helmets are identical
same shape and everything, only difference is markings
@@AR15andGOD actually they are not, these are m16 stalhelm, it has two sticking air vents and it’s little bit bigger. Stalhelm from ww2 (m35 or m40) are smaller and have covered air vent
I love how the British are always so chipper, no matter the challenge.
For real, they could be in a huge battle and report, "We're in a bit of a skirmish over here" (this style of understatement actually happened in the Korean War, and endangered the British forces because the American officer receiving the message took it literally and thought minor clashes were all that was happening, when really it was a MASSIVE Chinese attack).
Watching this just in case we decide to finally finish the world war trilogy
I don't think anything in this film is gonna help with the 3rd and final installment of that trilogy.
Reason for watching, approved ✅
Space force for the win
Stab my vitals son I hope not.
nah, the box office draw was a disaster last time, billions down the drain....
"Stab my vitals, it is the enemy!"
Was just about to say. lol'd at that bit.
It's really "Stap me vitals". Voiceover guy is using RP or Received Pronunciation ie the posh English accent heard on all British TV, Radio and cinema news reels up until the 1970s. Whatever “Stap Me Vitals" means, I have no idea!
@@Ronno4691 "stap me vitals" = "stop my vital breath" == "well, I'll be hanged"
Looks damm good fun what what
@@Ronno4691 It's stab my vitals , not stap !
My man checking his range card like a boss.
Those german troops knew just how to waddle about and wait to get picked off, electing not to drop to the ground or return fire. A marvelous way to end combat fast.
They would always did their shallow trenches in the reverse slope of a hill and stand up to be shot without returning fire.
Those German troops' descendants became Stormtroopers, famous for being dumb and can't shoot if their lives depended on it...
Truly the gentleman behaviour xD
They were the original stormtroopers, so...
@@jackuzi8252 actually in ww1 Sturmtrupp uniform
Now I know where Monty Python got their material.
Right! Anyone else have anything better to do than marching up and down the square!!!???
I came to replies to say something like "now I know where Monty Python got their material". Good show!
@@bobsemple7660 right!! Welll...off you go then!!!
I thought the exact same thing. That one fellow they stopped to describe the angle for a bullet to hit the tank even sounded and acted like Graham Chapman.
You took the words out of my mouth. Hilarious.
14:59 "Bad... Very bad... Very bad indeed, in fact blody awful!" this make my day!
simone boxler lmao all the germans armed with No1 mk3s
@@TheMwarrior50 They are captured rifles
And that’s that
@@Big1_ so... What you want to tell him is that the British captured their own standard rifles for re-enactment of the German forces? (the No. 1 Mk. 3 also known as the Lee Enfield Mk. 3)
@@emkaes7625 Yes, and they will drink tea together after this epic training film which saved a lot of lifes.
I'm retired military and love these vintage military training films. Thank you for sharing/uploading!
Me too, but a Digger, we were taught to make disabling casualties.
I liked how they depicted the trained tommy gun soldier. He was not only patient but he switched his gun to semi auto to get accuracy instead of spray and pray. My Grandpa was in there with the Canadian artillery, the first to reach Caen. When I knew him his hearing was at least half gone, and one of his knees was completely screwed. It didn't stop him from building a house of his own for his family after the war and in his late retirement years building a solid garage at Pigeon Lake plus a road to the golf course through his backyard lol. It was hard for him to talk about it so I know much less than I would like to know about where he was at each point after Caen, everything seemed to make him hurt. Let us Never Forget.
There is really no " switch " lever on the Thompson SMG for semiautomatic fire. But skilled gunners can flick the trigger to get off single shots.
I was surprised t hear him say 'bloody', which was a very strong swear word at the time. The advice on staying steady while being dive-bombed and then downing a Stuka with rifle fire was plain bats.
It worked on the biplanes of ww l so it must work on modern German planes right?
@@keepermovin5906 Good point, and shooting a dive-bomber flying straight downwards at you can have no unfortunate side-effects.
Of I just released it was you love your channel:)
It was probably funny. Like a joke for the common people that were watching.
Tfw "pilot knocked out"
“No mom! I’m not procrastinating. This can come in useful one day!”
... when you need to... Shoot. To. Kill.
This will serve us for the WWIII
German can always come back.
My mum: "Hmm... indeed.. very interesting.."
😅
Wait 400-500 years, find yourself on a space station with a matter-energy simulator, make friends with the doctor and engineer and you can go out and fight the Jerries! It will come in handy!
I just think Dad's Army with Sergeant Wilson giving the "Rapid fire!" order in his posh, gentlemanly voice. (My wife and I are Yanks but we love Dad's Army and British comedy.)
I love watching these old training videos. I have never been in the military but they're awesome.
In short: establish a kill zone and wait for the enemy to wander in.
At this level of granularity, isn't that pretty much every infantry engagement?
@@almostfm No, at some point you have to go on the attack, especially if you are the allies.
That's the difference in defensive attack and a offensive attack. Ambush are always from defensive positions
@@maxspringfield Typically they would coordinate that with mechanized infantry and air support; their's a lot of value in not being to trigger happy and giving the enemy nothing.
max springfield There’s a sequel training film called “Shoot to Kill: Suppressive Fire is for Pussies”
This has to be pre Dunkirk, so laid back and confident, and the emphasis on economy !
My father in law was a small arms instructor on Salisbury Plain in 1943-44, teaching a range of Infantry weapons including the PIAT, a short range anti tank weapon.
I will always remember the sadness on his face when we visited the Military Cemetery at Bayeux and read the names of men from units that he had trained.
May the poor bastards rest in peace.
I am a little curious why the British never invented and used a semi-auto rifle in WW2? The Americans had the M-1 Garand. Couldn't the Brits have made their own version?
@@aquariumdude7829 One problem for the UK was what I believe is called 'imbedded investment'. When re-armament was started in the late 1930's, whilst the USA was very isolationist, the UK had massive stocks of .303 ammunition. It is the reason that the Spitfire was designed around the .303 Browning machine gun. Similarly the UK and its Empire had large stocks of Lee Enfield rifles, a gun that had proven to work very well in the mud of European Battles. So why change?
The BREN gun was introduced as a support weapon just before start of hostilities, and soon followed the STEN . There were numerous other developments that could not, due to pressure of war, be followed up. There is a large history on the subject.
@@solentbum Well, that sounds like a logical explanation. I guess they had to get rid of all the .303 ammo on hand first before brainstorming other possibilities.
@@aquariumdude7829 Why would they need one? The Lee-Enfield was good enough.
that tank deserves an oscar for that death performance.
It's interesting how the US training films were kind of cutesy and coy about the reality of all these young men killing each other and tried not to bring it up or dwell on it, while this one is very explicit and frank about it, not just in the constant reminders of the title itself, but just matter-of-factly saying things about the enemy like "they don't know that they've been spotted so they keep on getting nearer and nearer to getting killed." Whereas a US narrator would have said something like "these fellas still don't know they're in for a real wallop." I can't say one approach is better, or more respectful of people's lives, or less dehumanizing of the enemy, I just think it's an interesting window into the mindsets of the respective organizations and the respective cultures of the two closely related countries.
I think also that Americans were a little squeamish about fighting other white guys, but the Brits, not so much.
@@andrewmantle7627 in a war they had voted against in defense of their former colonizers, yeah
america didn’t like the brits, they had the American flag as blood so they weren’t happy with their former enemys.
This is the most British thing I’ve watched in awhile
Follow Brexit for even more British madness.
@@nealbeard1 I’ve tried, a bit too British for me though.
@@nealbeard1 It is such madness to think a country that had the largest empire mankind ever saw can manage its own land without the continent it had to help save in world war two. How could we even possibly hope to govern a country as large as Britain without the E.U? Just because we did it for a thousand years before the E.U was formed doesn't mean we can just do it again if we want! sUcH cRaZy pRoPoSaLs BrUh
I'm betting the footage was recorded in a training ground in Canada. Look at the shoulders of the solders.
@Patrick Ryan Aye mate, 100% sarcasm, our land is pretty small and quite homogeneous, we were a world power for half a millennium and you get clowns like that fella who act as though we'd be unable to successfully govern our selves.
I think its highly optimistic to think that if you've got one Boys Anti-tank rifle and three light tanks are approaching your position, that its "in the bag".
You're in the bag, the british army regulation body bag to be precise.
As long as you don’t shoot too soon and give your position away, or Bob’s your uncle.
I'd almost say your stuffed. I think it's even slightly optimistic if you have that two pounder.
Oh my, such crude language, we speak the Queen's English here, my good sir.
If they don't know your position it can be pretty quick
Love these vintage WW2 videos
Such a fascinating war it was
I knew a man who carried a Bren in the war, he was a North Nova Scotia Highlander who threw down his gun to help his buddy who had been shot just in time to be captured. He told me that it was common practice to shoot the folks who carried them rather than take them prisoner for the disdain they held for the gun. Spent a few years in a POW camp after, and they called him a "kriegie" when in the camp. He died a couple years back and I wish I heard some more stories
I'd say he's lucky he threw down the Bren but he also was a POW for a few years. I guess in that situation he was lucky to keep his life and that's all.
Man
"And remember, we shoot to kill with a minimum expenditure of ammunition. Off we go, then."
"Stab my vitals, it IS the enemy!"
"Oh Lord, that's tawny, they've given the whole show away!"
I'm not even five minutes in. So delightfully British, I love it.
"That's torn it, they've given the whole show away!" ...my Dad (ex British Army) spoke exactly like this all the time.
I especially liked, *Is that Gerry moving about out there?"
By Jove!
Oh yes, old boy. One always speaks as if one had a pebble in one's mouth, doesn't one??? Only the Queen these days!
I swear it's comedy. I couldn't keep it together at the 6 minute mark with the uh... gesture. I mean, it's a little Monty Python.
A P E R S O N A L G R I E V A N C E
The bow gunner that was slightly inconvenienced by a shot to the side of the tank now has a grievance against you
"Oi, is that you shooting that AT gun at me there? By God, I'll give you a thrashing! I swear on me mum!"
The frightful blighter
Thank you for this film which I've not seen before.
It reminds me of listening to my Dad who for a while held the British Army record for taking apart and reassembling the Bren gun.
He spoke about many of the training sessions he passed through and later became an unarmed combat, small arms and explosives instructor before landing in Normandy under fire on the second day.
He did Monty's tour to Germany and laughed about how 3 times he got behind enemy lines by accident and a lot more.
He very rarely spoke about the grim and brutal side of the war unless I asked him a direct question.
He said he thought the British, Germans and Canadians were the steadiest, finest troops.
Perhaps more interesting for you is he left me a tape recording, the perspective of an ordinary soldier just before, during and after the Normandy landings.
I would really love to hear that recording. Your Dad sounds like a good man.
@@christopherheady7377 yes, more than a few share your wish, me too. Unfortunately unless prompted it's unlikely I'll ever have the time to tell his tale in full. He was aware the 'big history' would be well recorded so made a point of talking to me about what happened from the perspective of an ordinary soldier. Not that ordinary though, twice mentioned in dispatches & refused medals saying, "that's not what I'm here for, just to do my bit".
You should consider sharing with the WWII museum in New Orleans. They have an extensive archive of first person accounts.
@@phillewis7430 why would the WWII museum in New Orleans be interested in a British ww2 soldier?
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@@gordonfrickers5592 they collect first hand accounts.
Loving the comedy German accents - and probably old WW1 helmets as well. And Canadians. Must have had a laugh making this. I wonder how much footage ended up on the cutting room floor.
I wish the tutorials in Call of Duty and Battlefield were this good
Fax
In " Combat ", the Jerries always ambushed the Yanks. Yet it was always the Jerries that get wiped out.
Ah yes, “the anti tank rifle” the scourge of the Wehrmacht... scratched many coats of paint...
The German nickname for their 3.7 mm PAK was "Heeresanklopfgerät", which translates to "army knocking tool", because the penetration wasnt good enough after 1941. And this thing is much worse :P
@@Lorian667 3.7 cm?
Yeah, either 37mm or 3,7cm. Maybe a Tungsten warhead in 3,7mm would do the trick :-)
@@robbierobt Robbie is still my favorite robot. As well as the movie.
@@davidgreen5099 Yes, sorry. 3,7 cm
'Shoot To Kill' was the basis for weapons handling and marsmanship in the 1970's never mind the Second World War. I even remember the old training films too - probably including this one. 😊
As opposed to the earlier WWI era "Shoot to Only Lightly Maim," which was unpopular with the troops.
The Lee Enfield 303 is a perfect weapon. I loved shooting mine
11:23 "All he's done is give his position away while this silly twerp looks this way and that" pure gold...
Yelling out loud "WAIT FOR IT!" is really stealthy!
You can hear someone speak from 300 m away ?
Dathan4435 no, but I can hear someone yell at 300m when there is no other sound
@@strangelf no you cant not in a forrrested area 😂 he wasnt yelling at the top of his lungs screaming he was giving an order to someone maybe 30 feet away
Dathan4435 ah
@@Dathan4435 They were all in the open area. Unless that recon patrol is deaf there is a chance they would hear a sound that doesn't fit the nature. Even in the forest when searching for the mushrooms I could hear people from fairly long distance while they were just talking.
Hey, is anyone gonna acknowledge that this is Burgess Meredith in this? Holy crow , he's the Penguin from Batman and Rocky Balboa's coach from Rocky!!!
Yeah, these training films often get some big names working on them. I guess the actors and studios want to do all they can to support the war effort. It's part of the culture.
The penguin is danny davito
@@lovelygacha_uwu_8679 only in the later films, not the 60s stuff!
so that who it is
@@roblamb8327 was one of the British observers Burgess Meredith?
3:07 - stab my vitals....that's my new go to phrase for when I am surprised
😂
Our corporal seems to be having memory problems! He's looked at that range card with three items of information on it about 6 times!
He has to be sure...those bushes can shift around at any time.
They got a bit desperate for troops and recruited from an Alzheimer’s facility you you see
His name is Biden.
@Herr Oswald Mosley mosley was closeted 👌👌
Yeah I imagine most of those range cards ended up being used as toilet paper in the field lol you can just remember that shit if you set it up.
11:11.... "we haven't got any German tanks over here....yet". Nothing like good old, cast iron British optimism.
Fast forward a few years and Britain now owns the only functioning german Tiger :p
My grandfather was an infantryman in the British army, fighting in the frontlines 1940-45. He used to tell me about his “Thomson”. :-)
My grandfather would have been comfortable with all of these weapons. He was originally a member of the Long Range Patrol Group in North Africa. Then with Stirling and Paddy Mayne he was a forming member of the SAS/SBS. He became a major in the SBS. He carried out successful raids on German airfields in Crete and Sicily. On his last successful raid he and his men went back to their folboats which they had hidden on the shore. One was broken so all of the men got in one boat and paddled out to the position where they were meant to reconnoiter with their pick up submarine. It never appeared. The folboat was now taking on water. So my grandfather got out and began to swim away, obviously prepared to sacrifice his life for his friends. His friends wouldn’t have it so they got him back. They took turns going into the sea and waiting for some minutes and getting back into the sinking boat. They were eventually picked up by an Italian fishing boat and handed over to the Italian army. He was imprisoned first in Italy where he made an escape from then Gavi which was for troublesome prisoners who kept escaping. He escaped from there too. By dressing as German soldiers who were visiting the camp that day. My grandfather and his friend walked confidently towards the exit spewing what little German they knew and a kind of ‘cod’ German. They were let out and my grandfathers friend even spat aon the boot of the Italian soldier. This was something Germans did often because they felt so superior to these ‘wops’. They were caught within a fortnight. There was a huge river in their way and no way of crossing it except by bridge. The bridge was so crawling with security that they put it off until they were desperate. They’d been living on raw turnip and potato peelings. They tried to cross, couldn’t speak the language, were carrying food, wearing clothes in a terrible state of repair and had no identification documents. They were immediately handed back to the prison staff and punished. Then they were sent to Nazi Germany to be taught a lesson. They were in railway cars for days. Then they came to rest in a huge station. My grandfather managed to break out of the car he was in and immediately noticed the station was full of carriages carrying huge field guns and artillery, many loaded with Panzer trucks and half tracks, motorbikes with side car and others with boxes and boxes of unlabelled stuff. My grandfather was excellent at taking grid references and using a buttonhole compass he had been equipped with and a silk map of the area he noted down the position of the hardware. He was caught and almost shot, but as the train was now moving off they chucked him back on and bolted the door properly. My grandfather wrote to his wife as soon as he got to his new camp Offlag something or other. Ostensibly on the surface of it it was just a letter. But something my grandfather wrote in the beginning of the letter let my grandmother know there was a code hidden in it. She knew the key to the code and uncover it, she sent it urgently to the war office that same day. Bombers were flown over the area and destroyed all that hardware which must have cost the Nazis millions of pounds.
He was a great man my grandfather. When he came home he went into farming. Those farmers that hadn’t gone to fight and defend their country were all now sitting pretty. They mocked my grandfather until he got so angry that he knocked one down and had him hog tied with a greasy cloth stuff halfway down his throat. He immediately freed the moronic farmer and just said ‘you touched a raw nerve there. This gave him a level,of notoriety in town as an ex killer come home who might be a loose gun. He soon put all that tosh to one side as he became a published poet. He wrote poems about the war, which gave any reader a pang of knowing just a little bit of the heat and confusion and terrible loss of battle. He then commanded a Boy Scouts platoon. He trained them in tracking skills, zip lining skills, stalking skills, close quarter combat techniques (with some left out, he didn’t want to teach kids how to kill people. He wanted them to be disciplined and be able to feel comfortable that they could defend themselves. Many went into the Paras and the Marines one became an SBS Commando. He obviously suffered from PTSD, something which wasn’t understood back then. They understood the effects of shell shock from WWI but PTSD wasn’t understood at all. Once my grandfather woke up and he had just punched my grandmother in the face because he was experiencing night terrors. I guess he felt her toe or hand or something and struck her, I’m happy he woke up and stopped before he broke her neck or chopped her in the throat destroying the larynx and killing her.
He started up a local magazine with many different contributors and he wrote a fair bit in it. After giving so much to his home town and locality he sadly died at the age of 43. This was undoubtedly caused by the ill treatment he had received under the Italians and then even worse treatment by the Nazis. They hated Special Forces combatants because they were so good at killing Germans and their equipment, planes, fuel dumps and ammunition dumps. He was awarded the Military Cross and Bar (which means he one it twice, each bar means another time you’ve won it. An MC and Bar is considered one of the highest awards a soldier can receive for their service. He also was awarded a medal for conspicuous bravery in Libya after he pulled a man from a burning tank. He later wrote that doing that was harder than winning any other medal. The metal of the tank was as hot as an electrician cooker, there were eye watering, breath stifling fumes everywhere and my grandfather burnt himself severely pulling this man from the tank. The man was take to the medic station to be taken care of, when the presiding officer saw my grandfathers wounds he was sent to have his wounds looked at. They wanted to keep him in but he refused. He was taught how to keep the wound clean and he went back to fight with his company. He died at 43 but packed more into his short life than so many do in a whole lifetime. It’s an absolute tragedy that I never met him. My grandmother raised me on stories about him. She showed me stuff that no one else in the family ever saw. For example she showed me the stiletto dagger that all British special forces are equipped with and she showed me his knuckle duster with a blade on one side and on the other a short heavy spike that could be slammed into any part of the head, hands, elbows, knees, feet that would cause terrific pain and possibly death. Anyway you slice it it’s a life changing wound. The stiletto, one of his medals and his knuckleduster knife all disappeared and I’m apparently the only member of the family that saw them. I have one cousin who doesn’t believe that she would only share with me. He is the oldest grandson and really sees himself on the same level as the children. I’m the second oldest and have no such ideas. I remember my grandmother wrote a long essay about my grandfather. It was long, longer than this comment by a long way. I read every word and was deeply moved by what I read. She showed it to this other cousin of mine and he said “I’ll take a copy and read it later”, to this day he hasn’t read it. My mother wrote a book about my grandfather and my cousin showed no interest, showed no interest in the book of my grandfathers poetry my mother lent to him. He has told me that he is the reincarnation of his own grandfather, I can’t decide whether I’m insulted or feel sorry for him it’s hard to feel sympathy or empathise with some one so arrogant who cloaks it all in this disguise of loving and caring. There is so much crap that I could get into about my cousin but I’m not going to. As for the missing items, I think I know what happened to them. Around the time they went missing my grandmother had become obsessed with leaving time capsules for people to find in the future.I’d do it and dig it up in the morning because it was like Christmas even though I knew all the stuff I’d put in. I’m certain that around this time this time that she got a large tin and put the items inside along with a laminated history of what they were and who they belonged to and some of his story. His story is told in just about every book about the SBS and it’s history. He was Captain George Duncan, SBS MC +Bar. He was later promoted to Major, while in the German prison camp because he was very well known for keeping the morale of the men up. There is also a book called ‘behind barbed wire’, written and edited by My mother Margaret Duncan and Sue Knight. This book contains photos, the story of his war, his romance with Elizabeth Gerder (my grandmother) and his poems. One of his poems “The Black Hackle” inspired a piper to write a lament he called ‘The Black Hackle’ which is still played today I’m told. It can be found on Commando websites.
"A tank with a personal grievance"
yeah them tigers really pounced on you :)
It’s kinda interesting how these films can be about war but for some reason the old fashioned styled tapes are calming. The white noise in the background, the old fashion black and white style video, the calming narration, yet, straight to the point and no BS within the video so no real big surprises unlike today’s videos. It’s strange, but interestingly calming.
Probably less so, if you were relying on these training films to survive attacks from the Wehrmacht.
I don't think they miss the point. These films do not requires psychologically tired and in jured people. Further, this film is educational, so they need to be able to concentrate and understand. It was filmed quickly and on a limited budget. Anything similar to this belongs to holywood nowadays and their goal is one. Make you shake in your boots...or seats...
The whole British psyche was designed to submerge any mental anguish from conquering and killing people like Indians under a soothing facade of calmness.
0:38 "the Bren gun, modern warfare's most efficient, withering and deadly Hun smasher.." LOL!
It was used in its 7.62 NATO form well into the 1990s. The MG-42 in its MG-3 form is still in use by Germany today.
0:35
I’ve never heard a bad word said against the Bren.
I know this is serious stuff, but I cant help hearing Biggles yelling "The Hun ! The bloody Boche !"
I see where Monty Python’s razor-sharp comic timing comes from.
'One tank with a personal grievance and Bob's your uncle', looove it
I love the way the narrator describes the mistakes. “ bad, very bad; bloody awful in fact!”
My grandfather has a film like this from the german youth army in WW2
He got it from his father whom recovered the film from the youth camp itself, its alot of fun to watch, to see how the axis portrayed the allies, and trained their youth
Why don't you post it
Damn Germans! They're carrying Enfields but at least they're conveniently clumping together.
@Peter I wouldn't say that the Russians won bragging rights they won the war but the kill ratio was insanely in favor of the germans till the last days of the war
Buckers67 Buck well said, wish you well sir.
Peter the Germans where duked by civilians and there private boats at Dunkirk. The British destroyed the Germans air superiority, if Canada and America didn’t put pressure on the Germans the soviets would have been destroyed and nearly where. My Finnish ancestors held the Russians at bay with skies and bottles of liquor with rags attached.
@Peter You shut it , Russians were done, the British Artic convoys saved them. Where did you learn His-story on the TalmudVision.
Peter Wow you have no idea do you you
The penmanship on that range card is stunning--a gentleman wrote that.
Better handwriting lessons at school...no keyboards...chalk on slate...then inkwells n nibbed pens...
Of course,there might have been a 2nd lietenant with the squad setting up the O.P.
Officers were taken from the educated.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray The guy with the range card was a corporal, no? Quite literally one step above a private, if memory serves me well?
@@TheHongKonger I do not converse with anonymous cowards. Go way.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray I'm not even trying to argue with you, and while I understand it may be difficult to judge tone of voice online, please understand that I meant no offence or confrontation at all.
I'd like to add that if you do not wish to speak to "anonymous cowards", the internet is probably not the place for you.
Those old tommies knew how to work the bolts on those Enfilds very fast
While I could watch these old WW2 movies all day, they are looney! Shoot one tank with a rifle and the others run back to Germany. lol I guess those are the fibs you had to tell to get the boys across the channel!
This is the voice of Freddie Grisewood . His voice was one of the best known here in Britain , during and after the war . His voice was a very distinctive, he was famous for reading the news on the radio here in Britain, right through the war . When the BBC radio news and newspapers was the only way we had of knowing what was happing in the war . The first ever live outside television broadcast ,made by the BBC was made by him in 1937 as a commentator for the coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth, ( not the Queen Elizabeth we have now ) . At that time when there were only 1000 TV sets in the UK.
1000 times more than any other country though. Except maybe Germany.
@@krashd probably the us
"carries out a flanking position, and bob's your uncle!" Lmao the lines in this are amazing the brits are the best
They invented the lathe too. A bullet in the breeches on the shoulder in the American Revolution they did nor go. A general or three did not like the rifle and let us win.
Considering how bad and patronising British Army films of the time were, I actually thought it was quite good and tried to reach the soldier s with a smattering of rough language. I have seen far worse!
He called him a silly twerp first... lol
Not Dio you must live in a very small window ole chap!
"Bob's your uncle...." I use it in the pub at every opportunity.......
"Very bad, very bad indeed, actually bloody awful" lmao! Gonna use these techniques in battlefield very helpful
The rhymes at the end crack me up
This is unintentionally hilarious, high quality comedy.
“Remember, we shoot to kill with the minimum expenditure of ammunition”.
That ammunition is damn expensive so use it wisely, and we don't want you shot because new recruits won't wear uniforms with holes in them, not good for moral.
Sir I was never issued any ammunition.
soldiers given less ammunition are actually more effective in combat because they take more care to line up their shots. this presumably actually gives them greater survivability as well.
When I was a soldier in the italian army, our MG42s had ben modified from 900 round/min down to 600 round/min because the ammunition was too expensive
It’s heavy also.
@@mauriziosorelli9566 Really? You reeeeaaally were an axis soldier in WW2? You would be 100ish by now. I call bluff. Also MG-42 fire 1200 rpm soooo yea. Also the only way you would get MG-42's is from the germans.
I like how the Germans are still wearing the Stahlhelm helmuts of WW1.
My father in law who manned a Boys Anti Tank Rifle told me on the retreat towards the French Coast at St Valerie, he and his spotter /loader decided to blow a safe door in a bank after consuming a fair amount of Brandy. The shot at the safe door resulted in a round ricochetting all around the bank chamber. With that they decided to go back to the estaminet to finish off the booze they had found.
"Terrific rate of fire"
*MG-42 enters chat*
That's too much. If you said mg34 that could be understandable
The man said 'terrific', not 'insane'
*laughs in Hans*
I like the very accurate depiction of the standard German unit, that was always ready to sacrifice the unit-nerd in order to not endanger the overall performance at the next off duty soccer tournament.
Bro there was so much wrong with this short film. First of all, in a field that big the germans would have 2 squads doing a pincer manouver even without knowing an enemy is present. Secondly, the german squad was made up of a leader, leader assistant, MG, MG assistant and riflemen, totaling 10. The leader assistant which is also the observer sat at the back for organisation, the leader had no fixed position but was instructed to lead generally and the machine gunners would advance with cover from riflemen, then riflemen advance with cover from MG. When they got within 100 meters they were instructed to basically all run forward and shoot, preferably in combination with a second supporting squad. They were instructed to throw grenades at enemy fortifications when they got close and then take over. After which, it was the squad leader's top priority to reorganize the squad into formation.
@@BusinessWolf1 Come on, play the game!
Sacrifice the nerd to the bren gun
Why are old af training videos always infinitely more interesting than anything made today?
I really enjoy these old instructional films!
Reminds me of the Monty Python skit..."How not to be seen!"
One of them must have seen this. It has too much in common..
Jarkko Mäkelä agreed
Hahahah! learned that early on in the SA Army!
@@jarkkomakela7751 agree, particularly 9:17. Python clearly lampooned English culture etc but this is a direct lift.
@John Smith Ah I just mentioned that too without seeing your comment. It was too obvious to not notice.!
I always love how these videos make the enemy out to be weak and pathetic. The point man sent forward is a classic example. Glasses, shaking, nervous, weedy. Brilliant stuff.
It's good propaganda.
Not going to send your best man are you. lol
Every one of these videos has multiple goals in mind. The stated goal is to teach soldiers to fight effectively, but another one is to give them enough confidence to not freeze up during their first engagement. Notice the dehumanizing language: "the boche" and "the huns". Making them seem less than human and easy to kill helps keep soldiers from panicking and doing something stupid.
its entertaining but i imagine if someone had only seen this video and not received any other training or information, he'd almost certainly be dead very soon after entering the conflict. It seems stupid to underestimate the enemy but then again if you teach them more, you'd have to teach them everything, because if they only know enough to know that the germans were competent but not enough to counter that, then they'd be running scared before the first shoot out
@@ClickClack_Bam Americans have had a terrible habit of underestimating their enemies. Probably why they haven't actually won a war since they gained independence, which was won because, ironically enough, the British underestimated them. Seems Americans picked up on too many bad habits of the British.
"... and we are going to march up and down the parade ground, unless you have something better to do?"
"Actually, I'd like to learn how to shoot the enemy accuratly while they are on the move."
"RIGHT! Off you go! To the rifle range with you!"
The basic message in winning a war is to use the correct tactics for a given situation using what you have and be prepared to adapt at a moments notice.
There's the Bosch Corporal, shall we shoot?
"Nay not yet lads, I've just put the kettle on, let's have a cuppa tea while they get a bit closer, one lump or or two" .
9:00 that is one adorable little tank! You could roll up to the supermarket in that, no problem atall. In all seriousness, I love how this very early war film discusses material and tactics that would be obsolete in a matter of a couple years.
All of the tactics here are still taught and used in modern warfare. Things have not changed at all.
@@BeKindToBirds makes sense to me too, even if I'm nonmilitary. Let them get close but impersonal, but not so close that it gets personal. I'm not sure if I could shoot to kill but it's preferable to hand-to-hand with a bayonet in my guts.
those bombs exploding aren't obsolete. crikey!
You might be surprised how much of this is accurate and relevant today. Just with different particulars, different weapons, different numbers.
I think he is talking about shooting machine guns at planes. IDK about the army but the navy removed all 50 cals from their ships because they were deemed to have no effect other than boosting the crews morale.
The Thompson has the heaviest trigger of any firearm I've ever had the pleasure of shooting.
The fact I could recognize parts of the Bren gun from the forgotten weapons videos on the Bren guns as early war amazed me
Good gun.
The enemy came out of a time machine from 1917!
Sshooter444 😂
Let's just hope & pray this film doesnt fall into enemy hands
16:54 Is no-one going to talk about the fact that how well the corporal carried his squad with his Thompson??
Aimbot
@@systemhalodark British corporals at the time were well known for wiping out entire squads all running different directions by single shots fired from the hip
John Wick's grandfather, Corporal Wick.
He clearly earned that 3rd stripe (and maybe MiD)
1st place in the leaderboard. Banned for using aimbot a day after.
What a hoot! The Narrator is a British wise-cracker: "Stab my vitals,..." was one of his better ones. I'm not sure it was more training or entertainment, but I like it. TY.
“Always keep your sights set at 500 yds, for aircraft attacks!” 😆😂😆
That segment cracks me up, not sure why…🤔
Brave men who went into combat after watching this “training” film.
I'm sure it wasn't the only training they received.
@@chocolate_squiggle Yes, watched a few more similar training movies.
Yes state of the art training is totally not training at all. Yes, this is totally all the training they received. You'd be surprised at how simplistic and easy war is. You're making it seem like something it isn't.
Please don't mock this video. When I was a boy, I worked with an ex lancashire fuselier in Manchester UK (Charly Stanton) who had fought in Italy in WW2. He told me that he had been in the same Company as Fusilier Frank Jefferson VC when he actually won the his VC. He told me that FJ VC won his medal by waiting until the last minute before firing on a German oncoming tank with his P.I.A.T. That tank was being followed by other German tanks. According to Charly, FJ VC turned the tide of that battle by his bravery in waiting until he could not miss as the followng tanks turned away and retreated. After watching this training film, I believe that FJ VC may have learned how best to use the P.I.A.T from this video.
Almost like internet commenters dont know crap. The peop;e who were there sure knew.
It could have been this film reel that affected FJ VC. It could also have been experience taught from other soldiers. I doubt many soldiers understood the effectiveness of anti-tank weapons without instruction. However he learned this, he was a brave man.
I wonder how many soldiers were surprised to see an enemy drop like a sack of potatoes when shot instead of coming to a stop then gently fainting to the ground?
How surprising is it to see a crimson fountain of gore when a man is shot by a heavy machine gun?
What's more, how much more haunting are the screams of wounded men after seeing a training film like this?
This is great Knowledge .
12:06 truer words.
I recall seeing a WWII British army training film when I went through training in 1965. It was barely 20 years old then and still perfectly relevant, although it didn't include any jungle fighting, which may have been more useful.
Kenneth Quesenberry, very much so. 🇬🇧 🗡
@@sirivanhoe8672 I agree, we were treated to *
8th Army training films the battle of El Alamein and the Malay emergency black and white training films including a training talk from a Major who was fresh back from the jungle war fare school in Malaya who told us the Americans had the wrong approach to jungle war fare and would lose in Vietnam.
This was 10x better than all the all Star Wars sequel trilogy
Indeed
Anything better than the sequel(or prequel) trilogies
Kind of a low bar there.
Star Wars.... most hyper overrated garbage movie franchise that ever existed. Proof that the vast majority of the public are absolute morons.
Agree
BANG !! "I say, that parrot is completely deceased old chap"
ahh the careful conservation of ammo in this film. That's the true British moment.
No British soldiers were harmed in the production of this film.
The thing about this is something that confused me, When we were evacuating Dunkirk, we had evacuated over 300,000 people from the beach, at one point we had something like 40,000 on the beach at any one point in colums
When any planes tried dive bombing why was this not done, 1 shot from each man and the air would turn black with lead and take any low flying plane down
Andrew McKenna but remember what goes up comes back down and like someone else said it isn’t that easy to hit a Stuka
Or Americans
Yes but the LGBTQ community were harmed by lack of representation. Oh hang on, the narrator sounds like he could "bat for the other side."
@francis lea STFU
Don't forget chaps, a nice cup of tea when we've finished.
Too bloody right
And biscuits, with pictures of farm animals on.
Finished??? What sort of animal are you. We carried a fresh brew in our canteens.
@@johnknow4097 ...a nice digestive.
@@killforkylie Chocolate digestives or plain?
OMG so violent! I can’t believe that they are told to kill people when they shoot at them. I thought they would just be trying to scare them a bit.
This is the most british thing ever, and I love it, Here is why, firstly the hun uniforms are ww1 sturmpionier shoulderbroads, specifically the 5th sturmbattalion “rohr” (my favorite) with lee enfields and ww2 helmet decals, they say heil hitler after every sentence, and are referee to as Bosch, hun, jerry, or german. Secondly, they call the Boys Anti Tank Rifle “Good” as it is effective against light tanks. Next off, “Tommy Gun”, “Bob’s yer uncle”, etc, funny british phrases that make me smile. Fourly, they’re in trenches with the first one.
“Stab my vitals!”
Perkins, I didn't see you at the camouflage training today. Oh yes sir , thank you sir.
12 minutes- Nothing worse than a tank with a personal grievance coming to get you!
TOWs take care of grievances
I will have to say the video editing is exceptional. Great stuff