Lance Armstrong: From Hero to Zero - The True Story
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- čas přidán 5. 02. 2023
- Explore the incredible story of one of the most successful and controversial athletes of all time. In this video, we delve into the rise and fall of Lance Armstrong, the seven-time Tour de France winner who was later stripped of his titles due to doping allegations. From his early days as a promising cyclist, to his dominance on the world stage, to the downfall that resulted in a massive scandal, this is the tale of a man who lived one big lie. Watch now to see how Armstrong's story captures the highs and lows of ambition, fame, and deceit.
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not if you dope
There’s a rumor of dopeing
DUMB ONE BRO
No but it sounds like bollocks.
I'll take that 🤣🤣🤣👍
The fact that when Greg Lemond, a legend in his own right, tried to expose doping in cycling. Was completely ostracized in the cycling community because of Lance. Truly shows how much influence he had in his prime.
Agreed. Like many Lance fans at the time I condemned Greg Le Mond as a bitter resentful man who felt overshadowed by Armstrong’s dominance, but now he’s been fully vindicated with his accusations against him and now stands as America’s greatest cyclist.
Greg acted like a complete nut. His hatred made him pathetic.
greg lamond was a hater.. and a loser
@@stormhawk3319 greg was bitter... hes the asshole
Lance didn't have the influence. The people behind the sport or his team had an influence. Surely, Lance couldn't do and maybe didn't want to do the doping if it weren't for the people behind it.
I think a lot of people could have forgive him for the cheating but the way he tried to ruin peoples lives is what really makes him a monster.
Charlie Sheen says he met Lance once and Lance was apparently a total jerk. And it means a lot when Charlie Sheen of all people actually thinks somebody else is a jerk.
Nope, you're wrong, you couldn't be more wrong. Overall he helped millions of people get on their bikes, not only that, he increased the bike industry by huge margins, no one in the history of cycling has done so much for the sport.
@@tushfinger Eddie Merckx did more for the sport than Lance could have ever dreamed of. At any rate, Lance's "popularization" of cycling in America was straight off the heels of Greg Lemond popularizing cycling in America during the eighties. Lance simply recharged the momentum Greg had already started. Thanks to Greg, films like Breaking Away and American Flyers brought cycling to American households a decade before Lance was anybody.
Being a monster doesn’t invalidate his 7 wins. It was a farce to strip his medals because it makes it look like the whole field wasn’t taking drugs
@@tushfinger "he helped millions of people get on their bikes"
- Yeah, the pandemic did that as well and we're all glad that's a distant memory.
The biggest problem wasn’t the doping. It’s what he did to silence the people who had the truth. He did all that knowing he was lying to the world the entire time, and destroyed peoples lives to protect his lies.
That’s what separates guys like Lance and Alex Rodriguez from other athletes that used PEDs.
I don’t feel sorry for what happened to him at all.
True point.
Truth. All the top riders were doping. He would have been forgiven if he hadn't tried to destroy people.
Had Armstrong quit after the seventh tour win, no one would have found out his cheating ways.....But his hubris, arrogance and sense of invincibility brought him back one more time, and because of that, he paid the price...And rightly so.
Agreed. But he’s still the winner of 7 yellow jerseys 🥇
@gainknowledgeandinsight Those wins mean nothing because he was stripped of them and went down in infamy as a cheating, lying, doping pos.
@@DallasChick79 What about the second place and third place guys? I guess they were totally clean. 😂😂😂
@lpr5269 What about them? They lost so, no one cares. lol And, you know that I'm telling the truth. However, doping is all over that sport.
Floyd out-it him when Armstrong wouldn't give him another chance on his squad
In the 'Lance' documentary Armstrong explains how he forged his birth certificate to compete as a 16 year old when he started out in triathlon. His rationale was - quote "Forge the certificate, compete illegally and beat everybody." Interesting how that seems to have set the tone for his future.
hes a winner... your a bot
Still beat everyone. Legend
I have won the Tour de France as many times as Lance Armstrong did.
What he did to silence the people who threatened to reveal his doping was brutal. He destroyed lives.
Exactly. It’s one thing to dope. On one hand his cancer survivor story was inspirational. But once it was revealed how he treated people who knew he doped the inspirational side was overshadowed by his narcissistic and antisocial traits.
Absolutely. Everybody doped but he proved to be an extraordinarily bad person and deserves what he got.
Yeah, but wouldn't you do the same thing. I mean those people where trying to destroy him.
@@plantbasedanalyst6263 - No, if he had that knowledge, he should have taken it to authorities and WADA to become part of the solution rather than being part of the problem.
Levi is doing just fine.
He admitted in 2020 that it was his extensive use of human growth, hormone and testosterone among many other drugs that actually caused his cancer
And thats the point i don‘t get : why the f… he doped again after his comeback? Thats so stupid…
@@dgenerationx5855 Because he is nothing without his sport. The man has no self worth. He only is what he does.
@@dgenerationx5855 Cause he didnt care. He beat the cancer. He could beat anything
Lance Armstrong didn't bring drugs into cycling they were there when he got there all the top cyclist used them and probably they all did. One of the riders who won 2nd place refused the trophy and said he was proud of getting second place. In other words Lance won them all fair and square
"You'd have to be an imbecile or hypocrite to imagine that a professional cyclist who rides 235 days a year can hold himself together without stimulants".
"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water".
"For 50 years bike racers have been taking stimulants. Obviously we can do without them in a race, but then we will pedal 15 miles an hour (instead of 25). Since we are constantly asked to go faster and to make even greater efforts, we are obliged to take stimulants".
All quotes by Jacques Anquetil Tour de France winner 1957, 61, 62, 63, 64
He probably would have been great without the doping, but we'll never know. IF he would have been a nicer guy and a better team leader his team might have closed ranks around him (as other teams did) and the story might be different. I think his behavior with his teammates really did him in.
Great non dopers don't beat average dopers. Ferrari was asked about training, he laughed and said so whatever training you want
No he wouldn't, everyone else also doped, he would maybe have been a good non doper, but he would never come close to winning a tour without doping
@@andreasmller-srensen7255that was his defence, but not true he had more money, resources and more. He is a monster.
@@le0nz sure he may have had more money and better doping, but you cant seriously tell me that you believe anh of the top riders from that era were clean
I remember the peak of Lance mania in the early 2000s. It was wild. At least it got a bunch of people interested in cycling.
An unbelievable time, couldn't even name a top class cyclist now. Back then Pantani, Lance, the German lol, unreal.
It's both astonishing and annoying how Lance is STILL the only cyclist that most American non-cyclists are aware of. What about Lawson Craddock? Neilson Powless? Brandon McNulty? Larry Warbasse? There's plenty of American pros right now. How about people join the modern world and spread cheer for one of those guys instead? But nope. It's still all about Lance.
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@@michaelstratton5223Thats because they are American. Americans need simple black and white stories, they need two extremes, two opposites, to choose one camp and then hate on the other camp. Thats entertainment for them.
Lance is to this day the only cyclist that did that. His cancer survival makes for a great hollywood style introduction, then you could pick the he cheats or, cancer made him a super human team and speculate and bash the other side. The cycling isn't important in this, if he did another sport he would have had the exact same fame in America. Its the same way their movies are, always a clearly good guy and clearly bad guy. Their politics are always just two options, both a bit extreme and no one is a centrists who looks at the good and bad in both.
Just a different culture i suppose.
@@michaelstratton5223 not really, lots of non cyclist US people would have heard of Greg Lemond.
I was definitely a Lance Armstrong fan. He always stated that he was the most tested man on the planet, which proves he was clean. I was heartbroken when he admitted everything about his doping.
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He tested positive in 1998 or 1999, but the UCI decided to leave it at that.
He paid them
if he gave me couple of mil, i would leave it at that too
Yeh it's in Hamiltons book the secret race I think he mentioned it happened in 2000 or 2001 it would of destroyed armstrong if they'd banned him like they should that's where it should of ended for lance
@@edwardojg not to mention the Tour
The 1999 Tour de France cortisone positive that Armstrong produced a backdated excuse of “saddle sores” after the UCI asked for “a reason “
This crap is rampant. When Ben Johnson was stripped of his gold medal for the '88 Olympics, the gold went to American Carl Lewis who later admitted to be doped, but nothing ever happened.
Lewis has become a poster child for great sprinters and has said many times that they were all 'helped with chemistry'.
I don't believe any professional sport is clean (and therefore by dictionary definition, sport does not exist). I knew a body building coach that worked as part of the drug testing programme for the olympic committee, and they were even having to regularly test synchronised swimmers as they were all taking beta blockers in order to reduce their heart rates.
The moral of the story, or the tragedy was Armstrong turned a humbling and devastating experience of cancer at 25 into a weapon of revenge and malice (this was always in him) that winning at any cost was the devil's bargain. Sure he won 7 tours, but if he'd not turned to drugs and became that 1 day rider he would have (today) the admiration and respect of both the public and his peers, today he has nothing. A salutary lesson if their ever was one.
He has millions of dollars. Plus there are many people who don't care about the doping. Is that "nothing?"
(I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. To me any sport at a high level is simply entertainment. The fact that people get paid such huge sums of money to play games is enough for me not to put much stake in having much investment in this.)
Without drugs he wouldn't have been a professional to begin with, and that goes for everyone.
@@josiahr1375 So what if he has money? Money needs respect. His perception is permanently destroyed.
@@clouds-rb9xt what are you smoking? Did you read what I posted?
@@josiahr1375 Yes, I did.
Great videos amazing editing!
That ride through the field could get someone disqualified as he didn’t complete the entire course.
I was a competetive cyclist in my youth. I admired Armstrong for his achievements after fighting back from cancer. I bought his book. I celebrated every of his wins of the Tour de France. Then his doping scandal was revealed and that killed my interest in cycling for good. Sad, but true.
Yes I too have similar history and sentiments but after a decade off the bike and also 4 years after a bone marrow transplant I am happy to ride almost daily for exercise and fun.
Cycling can be a pure and empowering sport.
@@MegaFclef Yes, the sweet pain in your thighs can be addictive. Have fun!
Oh c’mon. Everyone that competes at that level ..dopes. It’s actually extremely unhealthy to do the Tour de France …it is what it is
Yep, me too.
I work in healthcare, and did a bit of very local criterium racing. When a 'friend' asked me to steal/obtain drugs to help them cheat, I realised that the stench from pro cheaters had reached into the heart of the sport, right down to the roots.
I still love cycling. But these days I admire the folks who ride around the world, or produce beautiful travel documentaries. Not the circus of pro racing.
Greg LeMond rode CLEAN. My inspiration.
Bullshit no one was clean do some research into the history of the tour de France and then look into how every sport they are doping
For those wondering what he's upto today, he's making shows about awful it is that trans athletes are effectively 'cheating' in womens sports and how awful it is to be cancelled for saying 'cheating' is happening.
Biological male vs biological female of the same age. Who is going to win 90% or more of the time?
@@nathancook2852 The better athlete. Or the one running a state funded doping programme
I mean, he is obviously right that biological males competing against biological females is in no way a leveled playing field, but that he uses this fact to legitimize his own cheating, is pretty disgusting.
I hated him back in the Ullrich-Era and pity him today. His narcissism and arrogance ruined a lot.
Had he’d not made that unnecessary comeback in 2009-10 than I don’t think the forces that be that brought him down would have happened. But Lance’s own arrogance sadly sealed his stripping of the 7 wins. We all know other past winners took substances to enhance performance but Lance went one too many to let him get away with it.
Greg Le Mond was unfairly cast as a resentful villain against Lance’s success but he now stands vindicated as he certainly never went down that route.
Agree 100%. Well said.
And he bought into Uber when it was starting up, I think he stuck in 200,000 bucks, that's a tidy little earner....
I knew pro riders back in the early 90's mostly MTB guys, who rode for a major US team, They used to openly laugh when they'd hear about Armstrong's latest victories and thundering denials, 91-92 they all told me he was full of prep, everyone knew. When I contradicted anyone is some of the new formed online chat groups, I had so many threats of violence against me, several said they could track where I lived and come and beat me, it was ridiculous...
The other side of the coin is he did train hard, my French mate used to see him going up and down this one climb near his house near Argeles Gazost, part of his 7 hour training rides, even full of prep you have to train hard. Millar said you can't just have a injection and instant power, it still hurts like hell, but in your hell, there is no one left chasing you....
The man is a charlatan and he doesn't care, he made it, lost it and still made it... best if he's forgotten forever
I heard him say he invested $1M and it returned $30M when he got out of Uber.
@@charliedillon1400 Hi mate! Thanks for the clarification .. I wasn't sure the amount, but I knew it was a nice little earner for him...
Im curious, what is the accent you chose for your auto-narrator? (i assume its auto-narration bc of the mispronounciation of HUGE brands like Nike and names of pepole like Hincapie)
I'm Danish, but have lived in America and the UK for years :)
ALL the best athletes dope. They just haven’t been caught yet.
That's exactly right, you cannot be at the top of any pro sport without being doped
Nope. You have no idea wtf you’re talking about. Believe it or not, many top athletes refuse, and are vehemently anti doping. It goes against their values. Just bc you’re an athlete doesn’t make you a liar and a cheat.
@@JohnDough-yr2zt to be the top of any sport you must take PEDS. You think it’s only the legit competitors that are able to break world records and beat other athletes that are taking PEDS. Come on bro, use your brain. They all cheat to compete at the highest level on the world stage. If they don’t cheat they don’t win. Simple as that
@@JohnDough-yr2zt they’re hardly going to be great advocates of doping and publicise it, are they? …..
@@JohnDough-yr2zt ask yourself this. All these world records that have been set in the past by proven drugs cheats.
How can those records be beaten by completely clean athletes?
Not possible right?
You will never know if after being caught cheating, that there is contrition. The only way to subvert, and protect those not yet competing, is to punish the cheaters. They had their glory days by displacing other hard working individuals, let that be a lesson to the next person who is considering cheating.
I have very little respect for Lance and can also see his great potential. Unfortunately for his fans and others, we were denied to know his true abilities because HE chose to cheat. He should be accountable if he was always wanting the accolades. Why this is confusing is beyond me except that I'm surrounded by people who want to cheat but can't. I have no other explanation for defenders of this man.
if he didn't dope he'd be carrying water like everyone else who didn't DO you think lemond was clean as well or indurain
Dope content as usual
I competed in the same era as Armstrong & I NEVER EVER even thought about doping.
There were many like me in those days & yet we knew we were competing against cheats. Imagine how it felt for us clean riders? It was sickening & sole destroying.
Lance & other dopers had a choice, they chose wrong & so they'll always be cheats in the eyes of their competitors.
It was them who made it an uneven playing field & made cycling the drug reputation it got.
Us clean riders were cheated & so was the sport.
For anyone thinking for a second everyone was doping back then or even now, you've no idea how wrong you are...& it hurts to the very core the respectful & principled clean riders, that you think so. Please consider such riders in your thoughts & blasting comments.
😂 no you didnt
Cycling and doping are as old as the beginning, Armstrong did not invent it.
dude just bcuz u were in ur towns bike-a-thon, doesn't mean you're in any way comparable to armstrong lmao. every guy in the tour de france is doping. everyone anywhere near the top of any sport is doping. you were never anywhere near their league, so he didn't cheat you "clean guys"
@@fwblok836 How is that fuc** relevant is a mistery to me. Take your propaganda to your political meetings.
@@fwblok836 oh really, Armstrong didn't invent doping? That absolutely clears him of all wrong doing
Man on drugs beat other men on drugs, and showed he's the best in the world over and over again.
Except he swore he wasn’t on drugs and again and again he pointed the guilty finger to other racers
@@MegaFclefit’s not right but bottom line he won
Song at 3:34?
People saying “Everyone else was doing it too” completely miss the point. If it wasn’t a big deal Lance was cheating, why did he ruin the reputations or threaten the livelihoods of anyone who tried to expose his cheating?
Quelle formidable tricheur. Fascinant de détermination. Acteur de la histoire du vélo. AMERICAIN, HUMAIN, INCROYABLE........
Yeah…Euro boys are clean. Only dirty Americans cheat.
Lance Armstrong almost by himself made the entire cycling world oust cycling legend Greg LeMond with the amount of distancing and covering up he led to cover up his tracks. I get Lance was trying to salvage his career but man he completely ruined the credibility and likeliness of his idol.
I remember being annoyed that people were trying to bring him down with rumors of PED use - I wish I’d paid more attention and kept an open mind then and I wish more people would pay attention and keep open mind in 2023 to any public figure who is repeatedly accused of cheating/crimes
Tyler Hamilton’s book the secret race is very interesting and explains the whole system
Great vid!
Thanks!
I know its messed up he doped but honestly 99% of people couldnt do what he did on dope or not on dope what he did was insane.
How many times do we have to rewind this? Would be nice if a narrator was used that could pronounce the last names.
I think that in his book he says he was told a the time it was 50/50, though later his doctor said in reality it was 3%?
Lance Armstrong is a hero…and nike cutting ties with lance was like hitler condemning doctor mengele for crimes against the humanity.
He didn't lose everything. He made millions doing this that stays.
@@lisafoos8976 yepp
@@insinty his case demonstrates that cheaters actually prosper. Cheat 150 million and give back 100 million. Anyone would take that deal.
If he ended up in jail for life time then i could say no matter how much money he made, he in the end couldn't use.
But as it stands cheaters prosper.
I was racing even before Lance. I didn’t care for LeMond and Armstrong because it seemed to me they ruined the traditional European racing. By spending millions and millions to win one race and almost forgetting about the rest of them. Almost like Dale Earnhardt race in the Daytona winning and then taking the rest of the season off.
You seem to be confused.
Yeah, Dale Earnhardt, one of only three people who have won 7 championships, definitely took the rest of the season off after Daytona. The year he won Daytona he had a rough start to the season but ended up finishing 8th - not exactly taking the season off.
He made David Copperfield look like a Rookie when playing his magic act with Drugs.
Armstrong was doping all along even as far back as the early Triathlon days. He would never win at the TDF, he was poor at the Time Trials and he could not climb to save his life. He chose EPO for a reason and it was for the climbing stages. He was probably on EPO most of his cycling life and steroid supplements. His reaction to EPO was his downfall since some people react to EPO more than others. He would not be able to win 1 TDF without the EPO, even if had been blood doping ( which was confirmed) without the EPO he could not dominate the climbing. This is identical to 2022 and 2023 they are all doping, but this time in Hyperbaric chambers to increase their Hematocrit levels, this is why see all the dominance from the top riders not only on the TT, Flats but also on the climbings.
i read his book watched him racing then he screwed me and heaps of others ...Cadel won without cheating and was beaten by cheats as well.
Cadel won without cheating, nice jaw Cadel
@@zaphod_beeblerox had it all his life so Fo.
Cadel worked with Ferrari. He didn’t dope, though.
@@uberkloden of course ferrari would never had called it doping or lead to believe it was , it was nutrient enrichment or some other derision of the truth
Hahahha…”screwed you”? In what way did Lance’s action do harm to you, directly or indirectly?
For me, he screwed me by getting caught. (Because of his success) We had races, tv coverage, and cycling became cool. After he got caught, we have spiraled back into relative obscurity and considered a dirty sport.
So many people defending an absolutely horrible person and the worst cheater ever. First of all, not everyone was doping in that period. Secondly, winning because you have the best dope is still cheating.
Are you sure about that?😊
Not everyone was doping in that period? Are you kidding? Have you listened to interviews? They all knew everyone was doping. Landis said so in his interview. So far as your claim that Lance had the "best dope" something you probably don't know is all those guys get tested for their Hematocrit levels(Level of red blood cells). Anything over 50 is considered suspicious. They all try to get as close to 50 as possible so he couldn't have had an advantage over anyone else.
I look back at the older previews and I still today love the the episode The look with Ian and Lance and then when Lance fell off and it lands Ian fell off the bike and Lentz waited for him he was a super person but it the doping is just I was so disappointed and we every time he wanted tour we donated to the foundation I can't believe all this it's just well I try not to think about it what's done is in the past and look what we have today I'm good writers they're young and I was hoping Peter might win the Tour but he had a kind of a rough time in the the Alps this past week but let's just forget the past have our heroes and go on with the future that's what it's all about
Do u not speak english?
USPS, Trek, Nike and Oakley made so much money and still benefit to this day from Lance.
Lance Armstrong is the engineer in team fortress 2
Synonymous (I would've never have gotten even close to spelling that correctly. High praise for autospell today yo!
Those Yellow livestrong bands sold like hot cakes when he advertised them.
I think I still have some around the house somewhere 😂
I remember the cameraman making the eraser gesture.
Took a long time to happen…
You glossed over a lot of information in this "expose". He strong armed innocent people into being quiet.
There have been several feature length documentaries on this topic.
This is a 14 minute CZcams video... obviously not everything can be covered.
can you do a video on every rider that cheated between 1999 and 2012? and not just the winners ;p
Give us some examples and we'll see what we can do!
@@TrueSportsLore Tyler Hamilton
Floyd Landis
George Hincapie
Michael Rasmussen
Jonathan Vaughters
David Millar
Ivan Basso
Jan Ullrich
Erik Zabel
Frankie Andreu
Michael Boogerd
Thomas Dekker
Roberto Heras
Jörg Jaksche
Jesús Manzano
Eddy Merckx
Alexandre Vinokourov
Richard Virenque
Bjarne Riis
Stuart O'Grady
Stephen Swart
Kevin Livingston
Christian Vande Velde
Tom Danielson
Levi Leipheimer
Filippo Simeoni
Raimondas Rumsas
Marco Pantani
Alberto Contador
Alejandro Valverde
Danilo Di Luca
Riccardo Ricco
Iban Mayo
Andrey Kashechkin
Stefano Garzelli
Michele Scarponi
José Maria Jiménez
Santiago Botero
Óscar Sevilla
Manuel Beltran
David Zabriskie
Christian Moreni
Matthias Kessler
Emanuele Sella
Mikel Astarloza
Bernhard Kohl
Stefan Schumacher
Alexandr Kolobnev
Antonio Flecha
Volodymyr Bileka
Leonardo Piepoli
Alberto Elli
Dario Frigo
Gilberto Simoni
Giuseppe Guerini
Laurent Brochard
Didier Rous
¨He never won the tour... he was doped and wouldve been disqualified if they knew...
The sad truth is everyone in the background trying to take those who are successful down have more skeletons in their closet than anyone else. Sadly just the way society is. I wish the best for Lance and he still has the balls to be successful despite the witch hunt.
The funny part is that in the years Lance competed, the majority of the riders were doping as well. Lance was the better doper. Still, he had to train like a mad man to achieve the level he achieved.
Lance attacked Greg Lemond and had Trek drop Lemond bikes. At the time I started believing that Greg was actually jealous. Until the VO2 max was pointed out, Lance was nothing close to Hinault's and Lemond's VO2 max. Until now I refuse to buy Trek bikes because of how they treated Lemond. I do agree with Lance though, that as a doper he did beat other dopers, Riis, Ulrich, Pantani, and so on.... So in a way, the playing field was even. Unlike Indurain, who was never a GC rider, suddenly started beating Fignon and Lemond. I hate Indurain more than Lance. And as big of an ass Lance is, I do have his autographed next to Lemond's and Hinault's on my wall.
So thats just typical USA hippocracy, one thing a lot of you guys do so well. So u dont have morals then? Sounds about right again.
You can't cheat against brain, lung, and testicular cancer. He gave hope and inspiration to many cancer victims. People are so fickle, most cyclists were doping during that time.
It doesn't matter if NEARY all were cheating, (they weren't.) As a former clean pro rider friend of mine who used to ride against Armstrong explained to me, if even ONE rider in a race is clean, that makes cheats out of every single doper.
@@johnwest7993 You're right, cheating is cheating, and I don't support it in any way. But like I said, you can't cheat brain, lung and testicular cancer. He gave hope to lots of people, not just cancer patients. Sure when he was exposed many people were crushed with disappointment. But at the end of the day many people also overcame their struggles because his story motivated them to keep fighting. He is proof that it's possible to beat the unbeatable. In my humble opinion, playing a small part in saving even one life is greater than winning a bicycle race. By the way sorry for your friend who was a clean rider. Good for him sticking to his morals. That too I would say is more important than winning a bike race.
"most"?? Actually ALL at least all tour cyclist were doping. Doping has been part of tour cycling since the 1920's.
LA was a bully who forced his teammates to dope!
The Tour De France was sooo respected when I was a kid in the 60s. There was actually a Schwinn bike model named “The TDF”!!
Great lens
He won the Tour 7 times against 2nd and 3rd place winners who were all, also, busted for doping at one time or other. He didn't cheat without the support of the UCI. Unbelievable athlete who took advantage of every training technique used by all of the teams.
And was a vicious bastard, ruining the lives of people who spoke against him. That's why he's vilified, not for the cheating.
@@ronwhite8503 Vilified is fine and deserved. But stripping the 7 titles was ridiculous as we now have 7 years of no TDF winners on record. And his ban was exponentially worse than any of the other dopers. His actions off the bike are the domain of civil lawsuits.
@@ronwhite8503 and why were they speaking against him? for their own gain..who gives a fck..not me
He had a better planned, more sophisticated drug's regime than others, and clearly his body responded very well to PEDs.
Add to that the best team around him with the best strategies, a ruthless mentality, UCI giving him a hand here and there, and you get an unbeatable combo.
@@livingbeing1113 Yep, they shouldn't have penalized him extra for cheating better than all other other cheaters.
do big retrospectives on famous races with doped riders like cycling highlights used to do but for some reason ceased
Did he cheat more than others did, at the time, or was he just better at it?
others doped...LA ruined peoples lives for fun. One woman from Detroit fought back.
@@anthonylarson7919 Please name the people whose lives were "ruined"? Please describe this so called "ruin"???
For fun?.........Do you mean to protect his image?
@@billkallas1762 Frankie and Betsey Andreau....Emma O'Rielly...Greg LeMond...Christophe Brassons...for a start. LA is a first ballot hall of fame POS. If one even considers otherwise, they need to make some better life choices. IMHO.
was better at it~ the top 30 riders of ANY year (YES…Gregg L as well…c’mon Stage 17 of his second win??? came back from a massive deficit and won??…and he said NOPE 2 DOPE???….nope don’t believe it.)
Let’s face it. He was the best EPO taker evar. We should celebrate that 🎉
They all take EPO. Even today.
I was young and heard about us postal team, 😂 the mail was always on time
Everyone was wearing his "Livestrong" shirts lol
My wonderful Father-in-law had Cancer, Lances comeback was a beacon of hope to him and he wasn’t even a rider. When Lance confessed it cut my Father-in -laws hopes down as he was a man of honour and integrity, he assumed Lance was too. For many, Lances actions cost them the will to live, to hope for a miracle or to simply hang on for another day. Lance had some pedigree for sure, but his ‘second is the first loser’ mantra is hollow, self centred, and Narcisistic, his teams doping and lies for 7 tours showed just how deep this Narcissism ran.
May he enjoy his 50 million, yet I wonder if he realises that money will never buy him a peaceful heart.
My aunt got to meet him at a cancer clinic and she said he came off as an asshole.
It was Lance's bitter attacks on those that accused him of doping that saw him despised by many in the the cycling fraternity, not that he doped per say. He viciously threatened to drag these people (who were telling the truth) off to court, when everyone knew he was a doper. He is no hero to me.
who cares if hi is your here or not....he is the hero...
With men competing as women today, Lance should be honored back as the best cyclist ever.
He should have never admitted to it. Everyone else was doing it too. No one will be able to come near what he did with or without steroids.
There's no controversy. He's an acknowledged doper, a cheat. As long as there is 1 single clean rider in a race, and there are ALWAYS clean riders, all of the dopers are cheats. They might just as well have had motors on their bikes. No race they ever won means a thing. Simple as that. That's the trouble with cheating. It turns the cheater forever into a joke.
Guy is still famous all over the world and sits back enjoying a 50 million + fortune.
Zero..don't know bout dat !
At about his 5th Tour de France win, I had an argument with my office mate -- a distance rider. "If Armstrong is not taking dope, I said, he is the greatest athlete in any sport of all time."
After he won a couple more times, I knew he had to be cheating. Everyone knew by then. It was just a matter of time before it would be proven.
He still has his defenders, even today. "Everyone was cheating back then." Uh, no.
Armstrong destroyed the lives of so many riders and non-riders because they spoke the truth. LeMond for one.
That does not mean those riders weren't also c
Doping
Should have various versions of sports categories as no otherside play drugs ok etc
People forget the mechanical dominance of his team. Very few flats, chain issues over the years.
Allegations? It's fact. Not only was it proven, he's admitted doing so.
I am going to repeat one of his own words: I wasn't running against the sisters of charity
So sad about the loss of beloki's carreer 6:30
It reminds me about Novak Djokovic and Raphael Nadal. But they got away with it.
As sad and shameful as his story is, the reality is that he made Trek Bicycles what it is today. The other sponsorships like Nike and Oakley were already big players but Trek was a different story....
And Trek paid him handsomely and also screwed the real American TDF champion, Greg Lemond in the process.
The way Trek treated Lemond because of LA is the very reason to this day I will not ride or buy a Trek. Same as NIKE .
trek may be big in your parts of the world but its just another bike brand here in NZ...nothing special about it. everyone knows of nike and oakley....ask them name a bike brand...they'll be stumped.
Thats more a reason to never buy a trek 😂
Trek also bought up original, unique and big names and destroyed them. Klein, Bontrager, LeMond, Gary Fisher and other smaller brands were liquidated by Trek. Ironic that they're now owned by Dorel, no, wait, Pon, nope, it's Roth Distributing, still wrong, now INTREPID owns them. Who are they???
Friends don't let friends ride a tRek.
They banned Lance Armstrong for life but Lance and his team at The Move still have the best coverage and play by play of bike racing to date.
I don’t know how he can show his face in the sport. What an embarrassment to cycling he is.
Hardly the best. It is one big commercial break and almost no analysis. Maybe the best american coverage, but that doesn't say a lot.
I felt betrayed when he admitted using EPO.... But when I overlook that, I remembered how inspiring was his Cinderella story, well... I still miss the late 90's to early 2000's, it was an exceptional time to be a cyclist. Now with the new era of Tadej Pogačar, I'm here thinking, please, don't be another Lance to us.
gee, after only he was stripped of his wins, why did the UCI not award them to other riders, what was in other lab tests? Your criticism lacks perspective.
Anybody knows where his bike shop is.
You do realize that you can search that on the exact same internet that you asked that question on, don't you?
@@robertpalmer3166 yeah i did that right after i asked the question.
But thanks though and I've already been to the bike shop this morning actually I've been there a lot of times, great Coffey in the back of the shop, just didn't know Lance owned that store pretty cool guess he don't hang out there never seen him. By looking at the store you would never know Lance owned it.
Still a hero in my books to go from seriously ill with cancer to winning grueling cycle races in a short time is an amazing achievement.
Yup
As a simple reply: no. The long answer: his cancer just didn't kill him (like many others who survive cancer) and then he created the greatest cheating machine in history, incl. legal and media strategies. And it worked - gullible people like you remain convinced even today he is 'great'.
@@rg31404 lol. He for sure is one of the greats of cycling and that’s not even debatable. Doping, no doping, he still had to put in the work, ride the miles, keep on top of nutrition etc. those things aren’t deniable. Accept it. He was untouchable in a world full of doping
If no one else cheated as well as him I think he would have won anyway. its just hat he let us down.I didnt know the ins and outs of bike racing like i do now...jus' sayin'
@@dilligaf2818 exactly
sports "achievements" aside, lance's character was plainly and simply rotten to the core; a thug and a bully to the max.
Btw, the big shoemaker who supported Lance is pronounced Nikey 🙂
What he did to Greg LeMond alone…he is a selfish sick individual
Too good to be true..... isn't it
Sub zero - he and those who dope/cheat damaged the sport.
Crazy how Tour de France riders are faster now…. Surely they are not doping….
He almost killed this sport and a generation of riders
This sport nearly was killed by Fuentes, not L.A.
@Esteban de las montañas as well but Lance was very bad too and the star of the times (Festina killed it too and it doesn't put LA away from his responsibility)
Isn't anyone sick and tired of listening about this bull crap already?
I mean, hasn't everyone figured out yet that everyone is doing what he was doing?
Let's ask the question why he was made an example. That's what everyone should be concerned about.
Try winning a grand tour clean. Even finishing one is brutal for the body. Doping gives you a ticket to possibly win but it's not a guarantee. Lance still worked hard for those wins and deserves his titles. The sport will never be clean. It's just the reality of it.
It has happened. It would happen more often if they were more stringent about therapeutic exemptions.
Agreed indeed. For example…moving to Europe to train on the direct terrain, riding the Swiss Alps, getting the best support team assembled, having a sponsor with deep pockets…friends in the UCI…he was THE CHAMP.
It was not about the doping you jacka**. The MAFIA behaviour!
Are you lance? Lol stop it he worked at nothing hard.
You left out the fact that his testicular cancer was the result of the abuse of performance enhancing drugs - Ivan Basso is an example and several others blatantly abused the drugs. He is the worst example of what an athlete should be.
Nope, you're wrong, you couldn't be more wrong. Overall he helped millions of people get on their bikes, not only that, he increased the bike industry by huge margins, no one in the history of cycling has done so much for the sport.
Yes, so his «miracle» recovery from cancer was just the fact that he stopped using the drugs for a while…he was just the worst cheat in history from the very beginning😂
Lance are the winner about 7 TDF Races,any Cycler dogs for the Victory by the TDF😊
why does lance armstrong look like chuck greene from dead rising 2 in the thumbnail?
if everyone uses its a level playing field....still a legend.