ECOTI vs Handheld Thermal

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  • čas přidán 28. 04. 2021
  • One of Sam Houston ‪@atacorion‬ most frequently asked questions is "Should I buy an ECOTI or a dedicated handheld thermal?" Here he explains the benefits of each and who may benefit from one over the other.
    Products in the video:
    Optics 1 ECOTI - tnvc.com/shop/optics1-e-coti/
    L3 Harris MTM (AN/PAS-23) - tnvc.com/shop/mtm-vis-mini-th...
    Other recommended thermals from our sister company ‪@nightgoggles9954‬ :
    Handheld - Bering Optics Phenom (in stock 04/20/21) - www.nightgoggles.com/shop/the...
    Weapon Sight - Bering Optics Super Hogster - www.nightgoggles.com/shop/the...

Komentáře • 49

  • @kennethh5657
    @kennethh5657 Před 3 lety +27

    To sum it up. The problem with a ECOTI is it's limited to night time use. Additionally, if your NODs go out, your ECOTI is useless. A dedicated thermal is a 24/7 device and works even if you NODs do not. A dedicated thermal usually has a further detection range as well. Not to mention having the ability to hand a thermal someone else if the situation dictates.
    For most people, a dedicated thermal will give them the most flexibility.

    • @NoQuarters
      @NoQuarters Před 3 lety +3

      You can get an eyecup adapter for the coti to use as a handheld. Still pales in comparison to the L3 mtm unit.

    • @Jo-xk3pk
      @Jo-xk3pk Před 3 lety +3

      To add to that.. Save up and get a good thermal. I have a FLIR LSX and I wish I would've gotten a better one.
      It's good enough, but any lower quality that that would suck.
      Ps NVGs rock!

    • @AmazonWebService98
      @AmazonWebService98 Před 3 lety

      @@Jo-xk3pk which one you recommend?

    • @Jo-xk3pk
      @Jo-xk3pk Před 3 lety

      @@AmazonWebService98 The LSXR is much better.
      I haven't looked into the other brands enough to know which ones are good options

    • @AmazonWebService98
      @AmazonWebService98 Před 3 lety

      @@Jo-xk3pk maybe at the end of the year , i would only use it inside attics for work lol

  • @talltale9760
    @talltale9760 Před 3 lety +9

    PVS-14 and a dedicated thermal unit in a bino setup

  • @derekbrownhkw
    @derekbrownhkw Před 3 lety +19

    PSA, tether your Ecoti.

    • @DaveSmith-cp5kj
      @DaveSmith-cp5kj Před 2 lety +4

      I honestly never thought about that all these years using it. You may have saved me from an expensive mistake.

  • @imacad
    @imacad Před 3 lety +4

    THIS is funny. THIS is a great explanation of both capabilities.

  • @patrickjay8664
    @patrickjay8664 Před rokem +1

    Any videos showing thermal handheld in front of a nvd tube?

  • @thegolflife7565
    @thegolflife7565 Před 3 měsíci

    What is the effective detection range with the ECOTI/TAD?

  • @561gingerninja
    @561gingerninja Před 3 lety +3

    What model handheld is that?

    • @wunkus
      @wunkus Před 2 lety

      L3 Insight MTM

  • @BillyBlaze7
    @BillyBlaze7 Před rokem +6

    rich folk problems

  • @sladeoriginal
    @sladeoriginal Před 9 měsíci

    Pitch: a smartwatch screen reflected for a heads-up display transparent lens for one of the tubes. can see a compass, map, speech to text messages, all hands free. yall should work with an Android device or app developer to sort out the screen specs to display correctly.

  • @twdunn9
    @twdunn9 Před 3 lety +2

    Get both. ;). I love them both. You captured the differences quite well

    • @hanf022
      @hanf022 Před 3 lety +2

      Get both lol
      In covid times that's a bit hard.

    • @outboardgull5285
      @outboardgull5285 Před rokem

      Yeah ez 2 grab both if you've got massive $$$ to burn. lol1!

  • @WildernessMedic
    @WildernessMedic Před 2 lety +1

    But wtf?
    According to your site the handheld is only available to LE and the military… The only other site I found it on had it listed at almost $12,000, and you were talking like it was cheaper than ECOTI?

    • @WheelchairOperator
      @WheelchairOperator Před 2 lety +1

      The Insight MTM has been discontinued, but you can find them pretty regularly on the second hand market for $3,000-$3,500. Cheapest I’ve seen is $2,800, making it significantly cheaper than a AN/PAS-29B ECOTI.

    • @poolee77
      @poolee77 Před rokem

      @Emmanuel Goldstein likely none. Welcome to the gray market. Same deal with full power IR lasers.

    • @jrapp1468
      @jrapp1468 Před rokem +1

      @Emmanuel Goldstein Goldstein... lol

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 Před 3 lety

    Wow

  • @KITDFOHS
    @KITDFOHS Před 3 lety +11

    FWIW networked warfighting gear sounds cool as fuck....until you realize it's emitting an electronic signature then it's a lot less cool for a multitude of reasons. That's just my opinion, and the opinion of many with whom I served.

    • @AmazonWebService98
      @AmazonWebService98 Před 3 lety +7

      The whole concept will be useless vs a near peer enemy, it's a day dream if you think they can run operations then like they did in Afghanistan , Iraq , or Syria.
      There will be no such thing on air raids or airborne operations, and sure as hell won't OWN the night

    • @AmazonWebService98
      @AmazonWebService98 Před 2 lety

      @Andrew Onymous why ? Airborne ops far away from any active location . No such thing as dropping troops behind enemy lines vs peer enemy

    • @LordPerique
      @LordPerique Před 2 lety +1

      Ah yes, the lack of IR discipline problem all over again. I wonder how long it took the military to realize that insurgents could use shitty camcorders to see their IR light show. Probably as long as itll take them to realize that every local nerd with a couple of SDRs can DF their constantly transmitting ATAK location pings.

    • @Stew_Pid
      @Stew_Pid Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, but for airsoft…😏

    • @LordPerique
      @LordPerique Před rokem

      @Emmanuel Goldstein lol true

  • @marcperkins360
    @marcperkins360 Před rokem

    you need to update your video, you are wrong on many levels. Thanks for the disinformation

  • @thermal_el_jackson
    @thermal_el_jackson Před 3 lety +4

    I guess boomers call Sam more often than I thought. Handheld thermals are dead. Helmet-mounted thermal is the way.

    • @atacorion
      @atacorion Před 3 lety +24

      Your helmet mounted thermal is a handheld thermal modified for poor people.

    • @thermal_el_jackson
      @thermal_el_jackson Před 3 lety +2

      @@atacorion No. Next?

    • @09jisaac
      @09jisaac Před 3 lety +14

      @@thermal_el_jackson I don't think anyone other than you read that as a question.

    • @thermal_el_jackson
      @thermal_el_jackson Před 3 lety +1

      @@09jisaac let me guess: you own none of these products.

    • @Jo-xk3pk
      @Jo-xk3pk Před 3 lety +5

      @@09jisaac LOL
      I was wondering who the F he was talking to for a sec.