BECAUSE YOU ALL ASKED!!! MY TOP 10 LRs WWC Edition (Global) | Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle
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- BECAUSE YOU ALL ASKED!!! MY TOP 10 LRs WWC Edition (Global)
Tier Lists are purely subjective, feel free to comment constuctively... I do explain WHY I put the units at the spots they are in...
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Love how you include all stages of players and not just vets with full boxes, well done
Looking like another all-time classic Havo video
It's nice to see these types of videos occasionally. It also helps documents the history of the game. These things are good to track/look back on for who was good, when, and how long have they been great
I really value your breakdowns, team build examples, and tier lists. since 200% leader skills, team building became muddled for me, so these have become invaluable to me. I cant be alone in that assertion. Keep up the good work, Havo
Would love someone to do an overall top 10-20. Every unit included. Everyone always seperates their lists, and it would be nice to show how all the units compare to each other
I found this video to be very informative. I like your perspective of the top global units. I would enjoy watching a top 10 Global LR video from you periodically, as new units release. Also, would you consider releasing updated versions of best team videos as new units release? I enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work. Thank you.
I think he’s waiting for the part 3 EZAs to drop before the next best teams video. If the Goku Black units EZA & how good they are will affect Zamasu’s team placement.
Yes! Do more of these, Havo!
Thanks Hav, love your work!
Nice that you explained all the stages and have good reasonings
I respect this top 10. havohei took time to explain each character. I like that. Not like someone else who likes to bait and talk bs.
Let's gooo! New video
Thank you for goin in detail on the leader skills, teams etc. People seem to put Bulma @ #1 just because shes so good on like 1 or 2 teams. Shes just a tanky support with a heal. Gohan, Piccolo, GT Duo are Gods as leaders, You can only have one Bulma per team. You can run double of each of the other top 3. Thats right there is like doubling the effectiveness of the unit lol Would you rather run 1 Bulma or 2 Gohans/Piccolo/GT Duo??? LOL
W Havohei vid as usual
this is why havohei is always top 3 dokkan creator. CAUSE HE TAKES EVERYONE INTO MINDSET WHEN DOING THESE
at the end of the day this is a team game not a one card game. id much rather prefer a top ten teams in the game rather than cards cause you could have the best card in the game on the team and still lose the event. and the game isn't just veteran players its beginners and intermediate players and everyone knows the more sayain teams you have the better you will be. people complain about the lack of the extreme units which I can understand to an extent but this will always be a sayain top heavy game
great video! i liked how you explained your reasonings and what you take into consideration to value the units instead of just saying "this unit gets 1 shot against the hardest boss, they suck"
Great video overall, but i think you forgot to cover that infinite zamasu’s domain also gives a 30% damage to extreme class
Bro finally ❤
The utility in high end content red is very crucial... very good video and thought I give U a easy like bro ❤ 27:31
Welp after this shaft from wwc I might take a 3-6 months like I always do when I'm a resident of shaft city 😅😢
W vid Havohei
This is the first tier list I’ve seen where I agree with both 8th anniversary unit placements. I have Z Duo just above SOH Trunks. And the GT Duo’s standby is either a checkmate or a get out of jail free card if things go wrong early.
Duo dbz were always better for me
I have trunks over the Z duo but it really comes down to personal prefrence
Why whem i use gt duo they dont have any defence and always die in slot one?
@@qkpmax_3_816 I mean they can get cooked turn 1 slot 1 by these new bosses. But mine at 69% usually build up their damage reduction quickly.
@@Catch93Prod i will try
NOW WE NEED TOP 10 TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still working on it
Thanks Havohei.
My loved LR's are : 1. AGL Nappa/Vegeta --- 2. TEQ Broly --- 3. PHY Jenemba
They arent that well - but I do love them!
TEQ broly animations aged so well
Ik the same bro. I view those kind of LRs as extra rare “trophy” units.
Mine is Broly trio. Beautiful art 💯
Great Vidoe seeing Bulma out of the top 3 put a smile on my face I would put Futurehan at #1 and put OP at 2 and leave Bulma as 3 and Trunks over the Z Duo
Solid list. I disagree with a few points, but I acknowledge your list as fair toward the complete player base. For my disagreements: swap OP and Bulma, swap Swag Daddy Gohan and GT-Bomb, and drop Z-Bomb 1 lower. Your criticism is on point. There will never be an undisputed unit until we get a Zeno that only attacks when Goku hits the button to clear the stage. Some ridiculous condition like take 10 Super Attacks.
I love these videos😎😎
Hell yea
Do a top teams wwc video and which teams can beat the strong bosses
Honestly, when I heard you say Bulma wasn’t #1, I got a little excited. Even though I think she can be argued for #1, I don’t think she is. I mean, realistically the top 4 are interchangeable and that’s a first in Dokkan history! Now, I do disagree on your placement of the GT Duo but, I’m not mad at it. Personally, I feel OP has a better argument for being #1 because he’s a slot 1 unit (from start to finish), he’s a stronger defensive unit without question (arguably the best tank overall), his damage is super underrated, passive is chefs kiss, and he has the most powerful active skill in the game. Giant Form nullifies all damage and he can solo most of the hardest content in the game. His links are the only downside but, he’s a Piccolo unit (duh). If he’s already this good, imagine if we had 2 more STRONG linking partners! As great as the GT Duo are with their revival mechanic, passive, and spirit bomb nuke….they’re stuck at slot 2. Even if you did a 100% dodge build with raw defense equips to strengthen their slot 1 potential, you would end up rarely seeing their standby or revival. Otherwise they’re super balanced and well-rounded. All that said, my Top 3 is…. LR Future Gohan, LR OP, and LR GT Duo /LR Bulma are tied for 3rd place. But as I said, they are interchangeable and have their areas where they dominate. It’s crazy how there’s quite a few people who HATE on LR OP. They say “cope” whenever someone tries to state a case for him being #1 or #2. I’m assuming they don’t have a copy?
Homie making more videos to recoup from the shaft
This list is accurate 👌
Stop flirting with your eyes
@R3IsL say wha? Lol
future Gohan is #1 for me cause he is my favorite character in DB and I am biased. :)
Nice
I just noticed I wasn't subscribed so I did, but you're tierlist far surpassed the truth and it's more well rounded for majority of player base and not for ONES self only lol
Please make top teams again 😅
I don’t think one is better than the other… Truth focuses on endgame… as he should. I don’t mind his list. I just disagree with it.
I just have a different perspective, where I consider newer players and those who can’t rainbow everything in terms of valuing the units. The term BEST all depends on what you value. I seem to value Leaderskill bit more than others.
@@Havohei well maybe not better is right term but I like yours since you put more emphasis in it, since you value leader skills and other factors are included it is more player base friendly in General.
Leader skills was the main source of value back in the agl Vegito days. I used to whale in this game before, but I hardly spend nowadays and summon on big events like this one. Getting 1 or 2 copies of the unit and usually always end up catching up on missing LR with 1 copy at least and older ones gets rainbowed. I am pretty sure the majority of the player base is Anyversery and WWD active like myself in global. So by that definition your tier list fits the general player base better.
The biggest reason why Bulma and Piccolo is top 3 is because of their passive, passive outweighs leader skills in dokkan, in my opinion of course
LR OP has arguably the best defense in the game. Whether it’s his raw defense or passive. Generally speaking, he’s taking less damage than most of the top 5 from the start of turn 1. And I do feel there’s an argument for OP having the most powerful active skill in the game. I feel like LR Bulma and LR Future Gohan are super similar. One is more support/utility based and the other is focusing on being well-rounded. Both Bulma and Gohan can work in slot 1 for a limited time and then they have to switch to slot 2, whereas LR GT Duo is locked in at slot 2. That’s why I think the Top 3 is LR Future Gohan, LR OP, and LR Bulma.
@@alexferrara9287 good point, thats why GT Duo shouldn't be no.1
@@oggbo892 Exactly. They are a GREAT unit but, at best they’re tied for 3rd place.
I completely agree so rabble rabble rabble 😂
trying to get single copy of bulma, instead i got shafted and pulled 2 trunks ...
Great list,personally i would swap piccolo and the gt duo or maybe gohan at 1 and piccolo at 2.Bulma is great but lacks in terms of leader skill and categories,so she doesnt impact the game like the 3 above her.I think when units are so good in different ways,if u wanna have a kinda objective tier list u need to take other factors Into consideration(leader skills,teams etc.) and bulma is falling short in that regard.
This is the reason I still think bulma is no1. Shes best buddies with piccolo on earth bred. It's still the twam that holds all the time records and can demolish any event out easily. Earth bred is being overlooked which imo is ridiculous.
Also his argument was that not to only look at red zones im like she's great in all avenues. She also works great with gt duos team. To top teams in the game that can beat any event easily. So I can still see her at no1 lol. The fact he has gt duo and piccolo above her when her best teams are with those two units makes me laugh.
@@reviewforthetube6485 I can see ur line of thinking.I used bulma in every team that u mentioned and she make the difference in every situation,but to me the other 3 are more valuable cause outside of specific rotations with her they're still helping a lot more teams.I agree that when u can put her shes probably the best but i feel like the other 3 are more usefull in my account as a whole.Also yes,earth bred fighters is a broken team and bulma helps it a lot.
@@reviewforthetube6485 But again,for me those 4 are pretty much interchangeable.Just depends on what u value more in a unit.
@@reviewforthetube6485 We get it. you like earthbred team! lol also timed event records are silly when length of animations alone can affect the outcomes lol No one is oevrlooking EBF, its that WT Goku is more fraudulent than Gohan, GT duo, Piccolo. Goku isnt bad but hes just one tier below as a leader because he can get caught easier in general and if he doesnt revive he is weak later where as the others will always hit their potential and get better the longer it goes and their unique actives are basically automatic.
I prefer GT duos over OP cause they do crazy amounts of damage, they tank, 100% hp res, additionals, they do almost everything.
I agree 1-5. however 6-10 imo should be 6)lr teq vegito eza 7)lr trunks 8)lr v+t 9)lr agl vegito blue 10)lr phy 8th anni
That is a very interesting take. I think LR AGL Vegito blue gets to much hate. I think he’s much better than the other 4. His leadership is invaluable. I understand he gets cooked once that guard runs out but at least in my experience I have had no problem getting him transformed right away. Other than that I agree pretty heavily that the Z duo is 10.
Ssj4 int ready to take the first place
I agree with this tier list i would personaly swap the gt duo with piccollo
Yeah the top 3, has it all… so makes sense…
@@Havohei*cough cough* top 4
Think goku even before gohan is still on bond of parent and child because of gohan
I 100% agree, I havent used future gohan (got mega shafted don’t wanna talk about it) but outside of that I’ve always thought GT goku/vegeta was the best unit in my box, they are so ridiculous and have lead me to more red zone wins than any other unit by a mile
Listen I spent 770 stones on Teq Lr God's And Phy Ssj4 and got shafted beyond belief 😢. Didn't even play the game for 24hrs we all been there man
@@covathetech I’m currently 1,400 in on gohan’s banner with 8 Phy goku and piccolos..no gohan or carnival gokus, feels bad, we unite in our pain
@@paulroche7588lol why is it the more we spent the more the units run away from us? Every banner I say "I'm just gonna do one rotation", I get the main unit 4 times. When I save thousands of stones and go balls deep, I either get one copy or get completely shafted.
@@thelgpain6529 so true man, I had 3k saved up for anniversary spent 2k getting just one copy of both the Dokkan fest LRs, then skipped part 2 and brought the left over stones to WW and have gotten destroyed…but I pulled LR super buu and Dokkan fest kale first multi when All I was gonna do was the discounts
I do find it funny that bulma works best on teams where piccolo and gt duo are at yet they are ranked higher due to other not so good teams they are used on because of super battle road? Lol idk dude i think the fact shes apart or 2 or 3 of the top5 teams is godd enough. Earth bred, gt duos team and can be used on goku/vegetas team even if at only 150% leader. The craziest part is she does what she does at 170% usually not even 200% so I cant see not putring her at no1. She does to much for each team overall.
Also i think yall need to re run earth bred again i still cant see anything beating it overall its so comsistent and well rounded. Highest raw defense while most still having gaurd. Then the damage output. Earth bred still hodls the records for timed runs in the newest zamasu event believe it or not. Its somehow being overlooked lately because its a little older but its held up well and will beat any of the new teams in longer red zones that come out. Its funny they build up so fast so they are still good at the short runs also which usually isnt the caee with units that need to build up. We all know how good gt duos team is also.
Being on a team vs Leading a Team is quite different.
With out the Leaderskill, you cannot develop the team.
And I don’t overlook EBF. I had them #4, interchangeable with #3 pre-WWC. They got LR Trunks upgraded along with Gohan at 170. So they will still be up there.
@Havohei yeah I mean da truth just proved my point with his latest upload. Her even at 150% on the blue bois team still can be utilized and viable and play cell max and the new levels. What other unit can do that? That alone just is another reason why she's no1 to me. No other unit can be close to as good at 150% that ive seen yet. Still somehow tanks also.
I've used Pikkon on a double 130% and no itemed Omega it can happen if the unit has a good kit and great useability I'm certain you can use the majority of the Top 10 on a double 150% and there perform fine because there tech aren't restricted to what LS % there on you could still run OP on a double 150% and use his Giant Form to cheese his event same with GT Duo and there Standby and Futurehan with his domain stop pretending like Bulma does stuff other units can't do lmao@@reviewforthetube6485
But have you ran her on her leader skill? Looks interesting, 2 Bulma rotations even at 150%.
yeah it lacks supporting TOP tier units. You have PHY Kid Goku, TEQ Pan and thats pretty much about it... thats not sayin much
Make a best teams in Dokkan video
Working on it
please tell me you're still going to do a best teams video
Yep working on it
Perfect tierlist LR 😊
I don't agree with the list but i very much like not only your criteria for the list but the reasoning for all of it. Personally I find Bulma to be #1 however her lesder skills isn't great and sometimes I find building a team to fit her links rather than just slapping her on any/every team and rolling out.
Yep, understandable. Again, if you can’t LEAD a top tier team in the game, I just can’t have you BEST. Was I harsh on #4, I don’t think so. I think the TOP 3 builds the best teams and Bulma makes them a lot better! But Creating the team comes first.
@@HavoheiI don't think your ranking on Bulma is harsh at all. Honestly your top five could easily be shuffled around in any order and it would be very solid. I only have GT bros at 55% but wow are they incredibly good and pull a lot of clutch victories. But yeah all 5 are crazy good, hard to really pick a solid #1. Great video as always btw
Bulma has less of an impact than GT Duo, Futurehan and OP and you commonly find their abilities more powerful than whatever Bulma does they influence the fight a lot more than Bulma granted her Support is great but units that can't tank prior aren't going to massively tank better. At least with OP Giant Form protecting the rotation and the GT Duo resetting the turn for you and giving a full HP restore and Futurehan is supporting all allies while being a defensive ACE she's also weaker defensively than OP and Futurehan and the GT Duo when her guard runs out.
Gas
i need september best team
I understand your points and preference but we are talking about a card that can be played without a lead because of dodge build + guard + dr, i don't think that anyone on the list aside her can do that feat. SBR/ESBR only allows some categories so yeah, i agree on that too...but SBR even for mid level players can be easely get done, ESBR with items too. That's why they are usually not included in the count of hard events, they are really exploitable.
Again, I know the value of Bulma, she is the greatest supporter of all time… put her on any team…still just a supporter of that team, not the Lead.
SBR/ESBR is still content to complete, and you need specific categorized units to complete. Yes it’s mid-game, but still apart of the game.
This list isn’t just about endgame. My mind just can’t get over a NON leader being number 1, in a TEAM game.
Wait z kai lr agl goku is still good right?
He's very good. One of my favorite units to release this year
@@Sgt.Dornan117 phew- okay awesome, dude is so fun to use. And extremely reliable
Imo, mbs duo should be off top 10. I got them at 90% and they get blasted with normals even with quad super turn 1. The leader skill being good doesn't benefit them if you're running 2 of them, especially bad since you can't standby with both of them.
Trunks is pretty much a better version of them
Yes yes yes yes lol
Gt duo has little team flexibility and I'd put them lower. Busted good card but very limited
Trunks should be a little higher
Why?
7 and 8 are interchangeable. A lot of people like Trunks more. I like Spirit Bomb Z a bit better due to LeaderSkill. Again either or… but I wouldn’t put Trunks higher than the new LRVB
my problem with the LR N°1 is if they get supered at the start of the turn(even with 20% reduce damage received) he will instantly die.
he isn't as safe as piccolo or mirai gohan.
Mejor que Datruth
@havoheiofficial what pack?..
LR OP over GT Duo I disagree but it’s all opinionated soo it’s whatever
yep i think those 3 are interchangable for number 1
With all due respect to you and your content that I love . There is no way that z duo is better than the 5 years . Raw Def is terrible no a days . Maybe for beginners
I guess you missed watching the criteria of my rankings at 2:04
@@Havohei final Trump card > power of wishes
@Havohei again this my personal opinions and end game player
@@ERelevantOPINIONS LR Spirit Bomb Z runs Both PoW and FTC (with the opportunity to boost to 200%), EZA LR Blue Fusions just has 170% leads...
@@ERelevantOPINIONS in terms of LR VB his flexibilty brings him down since he is generally a floater unit until transformation, even then you generally run them in slot 3 still.
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17:30 you said yoh wanted to focus on start game so what category is more f2p friendlier than dragon ball seekers. Plus future gohans leader is not great start of game either because. All the good future saga characters are brand new. Anyone coming into the game right now is going to get crushed if the only thing they pulled was future gohan. Because future has little to no good f2p units. I just don't see the argument of leader
No, it is a perspective I do take while I consider the rankings. (See 2:05)
So if you started the game a 200% leader would be more beneficial than a 150%.
Also then having the capability to leader a team in the endgame is also then in consideration.
Whereas Bulma is a passenger, not a leader in ANY of the top teams.
… mind you, I keep saying this, I do understand the value she brings to those teams… but chicken or the egg… which comes first the TEAM or the SUPPORT of the team?…
@@Havohei I would agree with you if Bulma didn't lead the best f2p team. What are you doing with future if you don't pull the new units. You literally didn't listen to what I said. Because what you said literally contradicts itself
For real, GT duo on top 1? This channel use to be good
Idk about this tier list my guy🤷🏿
Bulma number 4? Get off stage havo.
Yep, number 4 which is extremely high for a 150 lead. Thus the reason why I understand why people put her #1. But with my criteria, just can’t do it.
Zamasu Bulma Piccolo Gohan Vegito agl > Duo Gt
Bulma is def best unit in game right now. Gohan is number four. You can be disagree and still be wrong bulma is not opinion is a fact. That is why other place her number 1. Aslo leader skill us not very impactful so many teams that always have lead. The best unit is unit that prefroms the best on given team and must have when on that team.
Well your last sentence, contradicts your idea on leader skill not being important.
The Unit that HAS the leader skill to run a unit like a Bulma then is the MOST important and IS the MUST run unit …since you cannot run the team without that unit’s Leaderskill.
… I’ve said this many of times, in a team oriented game where the Leaderskill is what changes the META of the game… a unit no matter how great their passive is, CANNOT be number 1 if they cannot Lead a best team.
@@Havohei still need very strong units u can have good leader skill and trash units or don't do anything well. You jusy wanna make it seem you different lol 😆 it failing hell your team builds are built wrong it like don't even read the links 🤣
@@freezax4 Yes thats why leaderskill and passvie BOTH are important for a OVERALL ranking........now for your other statement....i guess you are new to my channel, i have been very consistent in my opinons and what i do for years (not "wanna seem different"), I dont work that way... so thats a baseless statement of criticism there..... now those who have actually followed me understand i just dont look at endgame but the entirety of the Dokkan Experience.... seems you are more of an Endgame only guy or you wouldn't think like you do.... and.... when you say my team builds are built wrong? (team building is also subjective) I just dont focus soley on APT, links can be important, but not the end all be all... seems you like to think in absolutes... nothing is a FACT in this game... so try to build better criticisms than "you are wrong"... be happy to see it your way, if you can bring up points for me to do so...
Why is Future gohan apperantly getting disrespected by everyone (just because its gohan?)
He is clearly undisputed number 1 unit in the game, you can clearly feel it when you have him.
Its copium at minimum to think that FG could be anything then 1
Why do people think #2 is disrespectful? Clearly I said 1-3 is interchangeable.
… and I consistently weigh the Leader skill higher than most.
While, Future Saga is amazing, still very limiting. Where I like SBGT better in that department.
… Gohan is better turn 1, but after SBGT gets his Supers in, they Tank, they get stronger every SA, and they have the most busted skill in the game in a Revival.
@@Havoheigt duo can get you killed easy even after the super.....
I can only see they tank at 100%, btw their revival skill is absurd, because it give damage and ki to allies and is a revival that does a lot of damage if that crit, but i personally think that gohan impact more on the team because he can tank slot 1 after he build up, and he is imortal after super.
He does a lot of damage in his first rotations (even better than gt duo for me) and when his domain pops, he becomes insane with his active skill that makes him imortal on first slot on that 5th turn, and his criticals make him do absurd levels of damage, and his domain can make every other unit on the team do 1.3 more damage to extreme class enemies (95% of the hard content)
Im not saying that you cant put gt duos on top 1, but i think gohan have better arguments to put him at the first spot on the list.
Good list too btw
@@AndreLucasLines i hear ya, but you are still looking at it as endgame only (seemingly RED ZONE only). Just having Future Saga as a Leader skill is limiting to build teams for other content.... I agree with you that Gohan's "Passive" is better espically Turn 1, but not THAT much better as a fight goes on.... if this was a "Best Passive" tier list.... it would be a whole lot different...
@@Havohei i can understand what youre saying, but i still think that sbr and esbr are not that important to the game right now....
But yeah, goku and vegeta have a insane leader skill
Opinion isn't valid dude has vegito at #10 instead of Gogeta. His name is in lower case on purpose. Gogeta now then forever.
Wtf are you saying
Teq vegito SHITS on gogeta
you lost a subscriber
This list is yikes 💀
this list is so bad holy crap
Word💀
Trunks is literally better Z duo
@@FMBeelz THIS GUY PUT GT DUO THE FRAUDS AT #1. THAT FRAUD BELONGS AT 5
@@FMBeelz Exactly. Trunks gaps them
Never heard of personal opinion?
@@justinsavaria3554 well personal opinion can be wrong.
@datruth
this is why havohei is always top 3 dokkan creator. CAUSE HE TAKES EVERYONE INTO MINDSET WHEN DOING THESE
at the end of the day this is a team game not a one card game. id much rather prefer a top ten teams in the game rather than cards cause you could have the best card in the game on the team and still lose the event. and the game isn't just veteran players its beginners and intermediate players and everyone knows the more sayain teams you have the better you will be. people complain about the lack of the extreme units which I can understand to an extent but this will always be a sayain top heavy game