Commercial Laser Compare - Aeon Mira & Thunder Nova
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- This video is a demo both inside and outside on two commercial laser brands. Aeon Mira 9 and the Thunder Nova 63. The target audience is the person looking to buy a laser in the 7K-15K market. I own these two lasers and people are always hitting me up for the differences. I decided to make a video to show some of the differences along with my feedback on a few of the key features.
This is comparing a desktop series (Mira) to an industrial laser (Thunder Nova). Aeon has an additional line of lasers that is also a Nova series and could have some comparable features.
Video Details:
Footprint size,
Laser Head Design, (Going from 2" to 4" lens)
Autofocus Design,
Exhaust/vent system,
Fit and finish,
Lighting & color, Handles & Hinges
Air assist
Control Panel & Buttons
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I like how you don't say "it is a drawback" but rather "room for improvement". I'm going to use this from now on.
I really appreciate your videos.
Your comparison of the Thunder 35 and 61 really helped me decide on which size I actually needed. Thanks for all the information.
Great info on the Mira 9. Looks like we are another step closer to buying that. Thank you.
This is the best video I have seen on the Thunder Nova 63. Great job! I joined your FB group too!
Alisha, thanks for showcasing the differences! This is a very helpful video and much appreciated.
Great info. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience, it certainly helps.
Thank you so much for the info! I was literally comparing these two manufacturers!
Thank you for sharing your experience. It helps a lot.
This is SO helpful! Thank you so much!
I like your vent system. I might do the same! Thank you for the idea!
You should be paid by both companies.
Tremendous critique on both....Thank you
Thanks for doing this. I have the Thunderlaser Nova 51/130 and am loving it. I am in Texas also, about an hour north of Austin.
Awesome. I just moved to my Ranch from Houston to the Round Top area.
Just pointing out the obvious here.... but this is not an apples to apples comparison. The Thunder equivalent of a Mira 9 is the Nova 35. Same bed size, same price (roughly). I appreciate the video and this is def not an attack on the video. Just thought I'd mention it for new people in the market that this is not really an apples to apples comparison. I myself am debating on these 2 companies.
Exactly. I'm pretty sure the Aeon Nova or Super nova series would blow thunder out of the water when comparing apples to apples.
I was debating which laser to purchase, Thank you for your video it just reconfirmed that I should go with the Thunder laser.
Great unbiased info. Thank you
Thank you very much for your detail video. Helps me alot.
Thanks, very helpful
Excellent review
Amazing work | Thank you .
Outstanding...thank you very much!
Thank you for this video. I'm currently waiting for my Thunder laser to come in. Why kind of cameras do you have sitting on top of the Nova laser?
Wonderful video Alisha. ❤️
great video.. thank you ma'am
Exelente , muy buena ayuda, muchas gracias.
Great great video.
Hey thank you I am getting my first laser and im getting a nova 63
Awesome, you will LOVE IT.
Hello, that was a great video! Knowing your experience with both lasers, which one would you recommend for a first time laser owner considering set-up, ease of use, maintenance and performance. Considering the Mira 9 or Thunder 34. Any feedback will be appreciated. Thanks!
The setup and getting going is relatively the same for either machine. I like the features and components more on the Thunder 35.
excellent
Do you have any recommendations or suggestions for someone starting new with laser engraving? Mostly thinking of tumblers, cutting boards, coasters etc. Thank you!! Have a good day!
Excellent information. Thank you. Will you please share yoursource(s) for the pre-made wood trays, bowls, etc.
yes I do share that info on my facebook laser group page. facebook.com/groups/HustleandBurn
These machines are VERY different in size and features, so although we appreciate your effort, it's really not a great comparison. Still think the Epilog Fusion Maker is the smarter choice. Costs a little more, but they're American-built with American support.
Great video! Thanks! Curious about which side you moved your machine on once it was disassembled. Did you have it on the side end like in the Thunder video or did you move it on the front or back side of the laser?
I placed it on the front of machine side. I didn't want the weight on the tube area at all. We placed it on a blanket and it slide across the tiled floor very easy. Slowly lowered it with about 4 high school linemen. LOL
Sorry I didn't respond quicker Scott. I put it on it's front side. I was worried about putting it on the end with it being so long. I also didn't want to rest on tubeb side. I took off all the panels that I could and the hood. I unloaded all weight possible. If you have anymore questions please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks for the video! Which machine would you say you've had the best experience with up to now in terms of reliability and customer service? Cheers!
Thunder
I cut my laser engraving teeth on a Thunder Nova laser several years ago. I was tempted by the Mira 9 until I realized the cutting bed was so small. Plus, for the price of the 100W tube (a $1500 upgrade), Aeon charges you an upcharge of 3x the cost of the RECI laser tube, in addition to the cost of the stock 70W tube and power supply (which should work for the 100W w4/s4 tube).
I think the Nova51 is going to fit my needs perfectly.
We are getting ready to buy a Nova 51. Did you get one and thoughts. I’m upgrading from a Mini 60.
Love the video. I'm considering both these companies machines. Coming from a small k40 laser. I'm thinking about getting a 100w cause I still wanna be able to engrave awesome photos. I'm not sure if you can engrave photos with a 130w.
You can engrave photos with a 130 watt. Get the High Res lens from Thunder as that is what it is for. www.thunderlaserusa.com/products/hi-res-lens/
Great video! So on the Mira if you want two separate air pressures for cutting and engraving you’d have to stop the machine and adjust?
Correct, I have a pressure regulator on mine which is just an open/close valve. I open it up for cutting and 1/4 to 1/8 open for engraves.
I put a valve open/close control on mine so I just adjust it real time when I need to. Cheap addition that is helpful.
Great video! I am going to order a Thunder in the next few weeks but even at this late hour, I am torn on getting the 51 or the 63. What went into your decision to go with the 63? I have the space and available funding and, although I always try to "buy my second machine, first", I have no way of knowing if I would regret not getting the 63 if I went with the 51. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.
I got the 63 because I needed the size for large signs. The bed size.
Great info. Thanks for putting that together. Which machine is fastest with fine detail engraving? If you could only get one, which would you get?
Overall, I like the construction and features of the Thunder machine better. My opinion for my use cases.
@@alishapate6550 I appreciate the reply. It really helps. How has the Thunder tech support compared to the Aeon?
@@peelio1 Thunder has a online self service system of which I love. You can get video and readable help/support guides. You can also call their phone line. Aeon only has a phone line and a facebook page for support to date. So don't break over the weekend as their offices are closed. Thunder wins on that topic for sure.
support.thunderlaserusa.com/support/home
@@alishapate6550 Thanks!
Thank you for the EXCELLENT Review of the Mira 9!
I'm in the market to purchase my own Mira 9 and would love to know the dimensions of your rolling cart so that I can build my own in preparation of delivery
David, 53" x 42" x 19". Height includes wheels. I have seen too many people make these carts too high so I would recommend to not go over 19"-20".
@@alishapate6550 I Thank You VERY MUCH for this information!
Thank you so much, this video was incredibly helpful. What wattage did you go with on the Thunder Nova 63? 100 of 130? What things did you have to add above the list price of the laser such as chiller, exhaust, etc?
I got the 130 of which I would recommend. Always go as large as you can afford or get in the machine.
I added a 4" lens, Rotary, in-line fan from Amazon, Air compressor.
@@alishapate6550 Have you been able to do light/fine engraving with the 130? I'm on the fence between 100 & 130. Also, do you notice any difference in power between upper left and lower right (saw that in someone else's video). Good comparison of the machines.
@@olywa547 I need to order the HD lens to do the fine engraving to get the results that I think you are talking about. I have done normal engraving and have been very pleased with the results. I will try a test on the opposite corners as far as power goes. I have not noticed any degradation of power to date on placement in my bed.
you got some style. I like ya shoes and shirt match lol
How often do you have to re-adjust the mirrors on that larger thunder?
someone should do a video on how to actually get one of these in the house. through a door. up on a desk. Every video I've seen, people already have them setup other than Myers woodshop. His video actually shows it arrive and that it took an Army of friends to lift it up. Bummer for people like me with no friends I guess. Lol.
Hiring help is always an ootion. As far as getting them in the house, you're going to be limited to the Thunder Nova35 or the Aeon Mira lineup (the Mira 9 tops out at the same footprint as the 35), unless you have a sliding glass door or you have big double doors like in the video.
EDIT: Never mind. Thunder has instructions on how to get the 63 through a standard door.
Have you used the thunder on metal for engraving? If so, how did it do? Specifically looking for info on engraving firearms if youve done any?
You would want to use a Fiber laser for that type of application. CO2 lasers will only "mark" it like a marker. Best for firearms is fiber laser.
Hey I was wondering could I get you to do a little project for out of acrylic
I know this video is not about the glow forge but I’m considering getting one just for hobby use and am curious how you liked it?
I think the GF is good for hobby usage. I had one for a year. I do have a SWOT (Strength / Weakness / Opportunities / Threats) study on it. Let me see if I can find it. In general if you want to cut a few things and not really scale it is ok. I don't regret getting mine but in after thought I should have just spent 3-4k more and gotten smaller commercial.
@@alishapate6550 thank you for getting back to me and letting you know. 👍
Found it but can't send it via here. Ping me on facebook and I will send it.
how much of a smell do you notice when cutting/engraving between the machines? it looks like they are both exhausted through the window and if you have a video on how to make that window board that'd be awesome too. I assume that any noticed smell would be particulates in the air that could potentially be harmful to your health so if you get any seepage from the lid or the frame that would be the root cause. Any feedback you have is welcomed and appreciated. Thank you for posting such a comprehensive comparison as I am currently evaluating the nova 24 vs the mira 7 and I am currently leaning toward the thunder.
There isn't much of a smell at all to me. Yes, you do need to exhaust any laser outside. I love my "2" thunders now.
@@alishapate6550 Did you purchase a second Thunder since filming this? If so, which one did you go with?
@@travisbenson8657 I did. I got the Thunder 35. It's a great size to complement the 63
We are considering buying a laser cutter for cutting Bridal gown fabric. Do you have any recommendations one which laser cutters could best for use with fine fabrics?
Both of these two machines can do that. I would lean toward a bigger bed machine so that you can lay out a yard of material. Mira 9 would be ruled out if that is the case.
What size is that table? mine is coming in soon and I need to figure out a table. I love the storage on yours also :)
I went 2" wide and length on the machines size. My cart is 19" high from floor to top. Join this facebook group and you can find some plans. AEON Laser Operator Group
My table is 2" extended from the machine size and the height is 19" including wheels. Don't make it too high.
I currently own a glowforge pro. I am ready to upgrade to a commercial brand. Looking at the Thunder and the Aeon. After watching this I am thinking The Thunder would be the better choice?? How does the tech support compare?
I’ve worked with Thunder support for 2 years. They a top notch bunch!
I'm looking from upgrading from an xtool m1 to a Thunder. Which one did you go with and how do you like it? The M1 has added personalization in my woodworking business.
Good day. Thank you for the video. As a sign maker I plan to buy Nova 63 with 130w. I hear comment that the Nova 63 is a machine with big bed and therefore more likely to be not very precise? What do you personally think? Thank you in advance.
I would NOT agree with that. It is very precise. You can also order a HD lens to do very detailed engraving. Look up HD Lens Head for thunder lasers.
@@alishapate6550 thank you!
A properly configured and maintained laser should be basically 100% precise, no matter the size. This means the laser head is moved to exactly where it needs to go every time.
However, there are many factors that may affect "precision". If you are doing very fine detail, then a higher wattage tube will mean a larger dot size. This cannot be overcome, it is the nature of it. So in that regard, a smaller machine with lower wattage tube will do better. Combine this with some accessories (such as compound lens kit) and you can get a very small dot size that will do well in engraving.
I'm using a 150W RECI tube and wished I went with a 100W instead. I thought I needed the cutting power but in the end, I favoured edge quality which means slowing down the cutting. I would get a better result with a lower power tube overall.
If the bulk of your work requires cutting thick materials then go with the higher wattage.
@@kennuimuffins2426 thank you!
This machine is VERY precise. Have had no issues on detail.
Thank you for posting the video. It looks like you have a Mac on the desk. On Thunder’s website, it shows that the Thunder is only Windows compatible. Can you shed some light on this for me. I’m still looking at purchasing a new laser.
Hey George. I only use macs. Lightburn runs on Mac so you are good to go.
You can for sure use a Mac. That is all I use in design and also running the laser.
It’s the Rhoda controller that is incompatible with Macs. Lightburn (which Thunder uses) is absolutely compatible with Mac.
*Ruida
Inches are on your measuring tape? ;)
I really want to put one of these in my spare office, which is upstairs. Besides the weight, and with proper air venting/purification, are there any reasons against putting one in a 10x10 room upstairs?
Go with it Jessica as that space will be just fine.
@@alishapate6550 Thank you so much for responding!!!! ❤❤
Good morning,Can I ask you how did you get the thunder laser into your house?I guess you have there a double door what you can open both sites correct?I think those machines are in the 1.floor of your house correct?Why does the thunder laser tube just last about 2 to 4000hours?They should be lasting up to 10000hours depending on how much power you let the machine run always.Also I would like to know how do you get customers so you can pay off those machines? I am asking because I start soon buying a CO2 machine have right now multiple diode lasers but just here and there coming customers in also hard to do so as I am trucking.Want to change this to my full income. Any advise how to start this correct with all those social medias out there I want do nothing wrong to scare customers away. I decided to create my own company sign and also starting fb,youtube channel,tiptok,instagram.Have my own website as well but still working on this to get as I want it to look like and live again.
What business you got into with these lasers and how business is doing?
Thanks
Hello i have glowforge , im on market of getting to know a software which software you wouod recommend? Theres a software called lightburn
Yep, lightburn is what most people use. You usually get a license with your machine purchase but it is pretty affordable at $80. I jumped from a GF to Lightburn and it was easy. Maybe a week or two of a learning curve.
Do you mind sharing an Approximate price of you machine and add on's you picked. I've gone to website and seems sooo pricey not sure if it me or are you really paying those prices ?
Thunder's prices are on their website...that's everything including shipping, tax etc.
These are commercial machines and are priced as such. I seriously doubt I would purchase one of these if I was a hobbyist but I am purchasing it for my business. Yes, expensive but it is a lot of bang for the buck and cheaper than getting an Epilog et al.
Wow you have to check out Boss’ latest machine
I'll check it out!
Do you know if the Mira features / design is similar to the Aeon Nova 16
My understanding is that the Aeon Nova line has a design closer to what the Thunder Nova line. Mira has different features from the Aeon Nova line.
The Nova line offered by Aeon from my understanding has a different laser head design than that of the Mira line among other things. I would confirm that though with the USA sales team to be for sure.
There is some good information here, but the sound quality was a barrier.
What laser engraves the fastest?
hi, what kind of compressor are you using? thanks
I was using a California Air 8 gallon but it recently crapped out. Switching to Kobalt now.
Can you show the electronics of these machines?
So the Aeon is faster than the Thunder right?
No. I did the same engrave file on both machines and they finished at the same time. I am going to do a full blown engrave speed vid this week.
do you prefer one software to another?
I use lightburn to run the laser and Illustrator to design
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Whats with the Airpods?
It was best to use it because it has built in mic and when we were just using the audio mic on iPad it wasn't enough. It was a good workaround for a mic.
I also don't have a professional video recording mic that clips on my shirt.
Why you own 2 machines when only one.can do the job?
Why thunder over say boss?
Hey just so you know both of these are DSP lasers, which means your computer doesn’t have to be connected while the job is running.
In LightBurn you can press ‘Send’ and give the job a name, and this will transmit the file to the controller, which lets you then load it and frame/run from the controller ‘offline’
Correct. I always do the send and then load the next job in Lightburn.
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This is funny. How can you compare Mira vs Nova 😂 Aeon has Nova series that would be a better comparison. Please advice on a new video. Sorry if I came out too rude but people might get a wrong message which is not right. Its like comparing BMW 3 series vs Mersedes S class and saying that Mercedes is better brand. In my opinion it is 😂
Exactly. I'm pretty sure the Nova or super nova series would blow thunder out of the water when comparing apples to apples.