The Karakhanids: First Turkic Muslim Empire

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @KhansDen
    @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +25

    This is the first time in over two years where I narrated the entire video by myself. A bit anxious, to honest, but I hope it was to your satisfaction. That being said, the AI program that I used in the past is ElevenLabs. They offer fantastic voices that sound authentic, so if you are interested to get such a voiceover for your own projects or just for fun consider signing up by using this affiliate link (my very first, yay): elevenlabs.io/?from=partnerevans2202
    The Karakhanids are in any case our key to understanding the changes within Turkic peoples from antiquity to the middle ages. They offer fascinating insights into the way Turkic and steppe peoples functioned back in the day. From here on out though, we will focus on the medieval period both with regards to the Turkic peoples and to the peoples of the steppe in general.

    • @yichengyi
      @yichengyi Před 2 měsíci

      Can you read Turkic runes?

    • @turktarihi266
      @turktarihi266 Před 2 měsíci

      Wow... I use ElevenLabs too. Their voices are much realistic.

    • @Dr.Consciousness
      @Dr.Consciousness Před 2 měsíci

      Finally ur back :)

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 Před 2 měsíci

      Well, your title is very wrong. Volga-Bulgaria was the first Turkic Muslim empire. The Kara-Khanids were at best second.

    • @Dr.Consciousness
      @Dr.Consciousness Před 2 měsíci

      @@realtalk6195 Volga Bulgaria was a slavic ruled empire brother. But ur right in that they had a significant turkic population.

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu Před 2 měsíci +32

    Karakhanids laid the basis of the Sufi-Turanic synthesis dominant in Turkic old towns of Bukhara, Samarkand, Türkistan, Konya, Termez, Kokand, Khiva, Shahrisabz, which are some of the spiritual epicenters and timeless gems of Turkic-Islamic civilization

    • @tulparkultigintengrikut8440
      @tulparkultigintengrikut8440 Před 2 měsíci +3

      sen her yerdesin aga. türkleri savunuyorsun. sagol olsun sana. asosyal medya varmi sende?

    • @Ghjkoplokkp
      @Ghjkoplokkp Před 2 měsíci

      😂​@@tulparkultigintengrikut8440

    • @MK-br3gl
      @MK-br3gl Před 2 měsíci +1

      We are not muslims

    • @Cano644
      @Cano644 Před měsícem +1

      You want to cry ?​@@MK-br3gl

    • @MK-br3gl
      @MK-br3gl Před měsícem

      @Cano644 did I make you cry, muslim?

  • @jivanselbi3657
    @jivanselbi3657 Před 2 měsíci +18

    I appreciate your arduous effort of preparing this informative video on Turkic history.. thankyou

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu Před 2 měsíci +39

    Karakhanids were pivotal in the Turkification of the Tarim Basin & Transoxiana, they produced the legendary Mahmud Kashgari who not only partook in the Karakhanid conquest of Khotan but also dropped some hard verses afterwards, poor Sakas :D

    • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
      @user-fl5mq9kp7g Před 2 měsíci +2

      Someone writes the history of the Turks in the Persian language. This is very strange. Weren’t the Turks the rulers? Why do they use the Persian language when they were the rulers?

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Wrong. Transoxiana/Mawarannahr was only turkified after the Mongol conquests and mass slaughter of region's inhabitants. Even cities as far East as Balasagun were bilingual according to Kashgari. And Balasagun is not even in Transoxiana. While the Tarim Basin with the exception of Khotan was basically turkified by the time Karakhanids emerged.

    • @nenenindonu
      @nenenindonu Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@tursuntongra6706 Turks becoming an overwhelming majority there is indeed attributed to Turkic tribes brought by the Mongol war machine that depopulated much of the former Persian speaking lands but Karakhanids still massively contributed to the Turkification prior to those events

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 Před 2 měsíci

      @@nenenindonu I concur, however your first statement is nevertheless erroneous. Tarim Basin was essentially largely turkified before the establishment of Karakhanid Khaganate or the state of Qocho. While Transoxiana having switched from East Iranic dialects, would remain dominantly Persian speaking for a very long time. Turkification would continue there well into the 20th century, and one could argue that it continues to this very day.

    • @skeltal975
      @skeltal975 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@user-fl5mq9kp7g turkic languages werent written only spoken thus turkic people used persian

  • @miguelcamacho4595
    @miguelcamacho4595 Před 2 měsíci +17

    Love your content. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽 🤝🏼

  • @turktarihi266
    @turktarihi266 Před 2 měsíci +9

    The wait was worth it. Hope you do a video on Seljuks too. And i can't remember if you have ever made a documentry on Avars, make a video on em too, Keep it up, Kardeş!

  • @Austin62581
    @Austin62581 Před 2 měsíci +11

    You should do the Avar Khaganate!

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb Před 2 měsíci +5

    This is fantastic. Love that you’re using your own voice for narration - it really gives the video that little bit of extra depth. Well done good sir.

    • @terrencewalker8219
      @terrencewalker8219 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Much better than listening to an A.I. narration.

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb Před 2 měsíci

      @@terrencewalker8219 couldn’t agree more man.

  • @realtalk6195
    @realtalk6195 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The title is wrong. Volga-Bulgaria was the first Turkic Muslim empire. The Kara-Khanids were at best second.

  • @Bjorn_Algiz
    @Bjorn_Algiz Před 2 měsíci +7

    Your narrations are deeply appreciated brother! Love the research and deep analysis ❤

  • @321123580
    @321123580 Před 2 měsíci +20

    Karakhanids is the foundation of the modern uygurs and uzbeks

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Yeah, that is why Uzbeks have no written or folk memory of Karakhanids. And all historical info in Turkic tongue comes from authors who spring from Uyghur lands - Jamal Qarshi, Haydar Dughlat, as well as various historiographies and bibliographies in Chagatai Uyghur, and of course modern oral folk tales and legends.

    • @321123580
      @321123580 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@tursuntongra6706 бро, караханиды там правили, узбеки как и уйгуры говорят том же диалекте

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@321123580 Ну и что? В Индии правили различные тюркские династии почти 1000 лет. Северные индийцы наверное стали тюрками? тюркизация мавераннахра произошла позже после эпохи караханидов и не связана с ними. По Кашгари, в мавераннахре превалировали не-тюркские языки. тюркизация южного кыргызстана и узбекистана это пост-монгольская эпоха, 13th century +

    • @321123580
      @321123580 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@tursuntongra6706 брат расслабься у уйгуров нет эксклюзивных прав на караханидов, я сам уйгур

    • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
      @user-fl5mq9kp7g Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@321123580Do you have blood from the Scythian tribes because this land is their land?

  • @tikkunolam112
    @tikkunolam112 Před 2 měsíci +4

    A very commendable and thorough analysis ... excellent work

  • @Idrissi_Ma
    @Idrissi_Ma Před 4 dny

    You have some seriously amazing series that are better to watch than movies. Thank you ❤❤❤

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Před 2 měsíci +3

    It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage episode about (karakhaned Empire) karluck stip tribe's at 850 AD ......thank you 🙏 [khan Den]channel for sharing.

  • @kaanerdem2822
    @kaanerdem2822 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Hey khans den, will you make a video about ottoman chinese relations? I heard the ottomans had the largest chinese porcelaine pottery collection in the world. So i think they had a very good relation with eachother

  • @cemasikoglu9597
    @cemasikoglu9597 Před 2 měsíci +6

    We all pray for her

  • @Reader_curiosity
    @Reader_curiosity Před 2 měsíci +3

    A great episode about the Qarakhanid Empire.
    First: It appears from the context of the medieval historical sources that the origin of the Qarakhanids is from the Qarluq tribes and they have a connection with the Yabgu-Karluq confederation, but the historical sources are contradictory. Some sources mention the origin of the Yaghma tribes and some other sources mention the origin of the Qarluq tribes.
    According to the book The Boundaries of the World, the Iligma tribes controlled most of the lands south of the Tarim Basin and expanded into the lands of other Turkish tribes.
    Therefore, some ancient historians, such as Ibn Khaldun, did not specify the origin of the Turkish tribe from which the kings of the Khanate state descended.
    Even the Qarakhanid prince Mahmoud Al-Kashgari did not specify the origin of the Turkish tribe of the Qarakhanid dynasty, while he was the one who mentioned the origin of the ruling Seljuk tribe.
    In my opinion, this is perhaps because the Qarakhan dynasty descends from a group of Turkic tribes, most of which settled in Central Asia and mixed with each other since the Gokturk era by the Karluks, Yagmas, Chigils, Tushis and others.
    Indeed, ancient historical sources mention mixing between Turkish tribes in Central Asia
    This stability is not new to the Turks, as the Chinese traveler who visited Western Gokturk in the seventh century AD mentioned that the Turks are settled and practice agriculture on the Chu River.
    Of course, Turkish migrations to Transoxiana go back to the Xiongnu era at the very least, through the Huns era and up to the Gokturk era, as mentioned in ancient Chinese records and medieval historical sources.
    Of course, these historical facts do not please Aryan extremists who insist on claims that the Turks landed via spacecraft to Transoxiana after the expansions of the Chinggisid Empire.
    Unfortunately, the Islamist ideologues in Turkey were promoting the lie of the soft Arab conquest of Transoxiana during the period of the Islamic Awakening, and after historians refuted the Islamists’ claims and the historians made it clear that the Arab conquests were extremely violent, like the Chinggisian expansions, then the Islamists turned to adopting the thesis of the Aryan extremists that the Arab conquests were It is directed against the Iranians only and not against the Turks, as if this justification would help reduce the ugliness of what happened, and the ideological Islamists were supposed to apologize to the public for their previous lies and falsification of history.
    While the medieval historical sources consider Transoxiana part of Greater Turkestan, Al-Kashgari mentioned that some of the cities of Transoxiana are purely Turkish and some are based on ethnic and linguistic duality.
    Therefore, it is not surprising that the Arian extremists and ideological Islamists agreed on the same anti-Turkish ideas.
    Second: The Battle of Talas was just a small and ineffective border battle and was not even mentioned by Islamic historical sources such as Al-Tabari, Ibn Miskawayh and others. It occurred because the Turks and Sogdians asked for help from the Chinese Emperor, and the clash took place with the Abbasid army in Talas and ended with the victory of the Abbasid army after the Qarluq soldiers turned into the army. Abbasi.
    The influence of the Tang Chinese Empire did not end in the western lands of Central Asia, and the Turks and Sogdians continued to pay allegiance to the Emperor of China.
    The radical transformation took place after the An Lushan Revolt (755-765), which led to great devastation within China and the permanent loss of the western regions of Central Asia.
    I do not know why some Turkish historians ignore this pivotal event in the Middle Ages.
    Of course, this event contributed to increasing the external power of the Kingdom of Tibet and enabled it to expand externally, as well as contributing to the independence of the small Turkic states in Central Asia.
    It is a historical irony that the Uyghur Khaganate played a major role in providing military assistance to the Tang Dynasty to eliminate An Lushan in exchange for paying Chinese tribute to the Uyghur Khaganate and obtaining a set of privileges.
    Third: It is not possible to pass through the Samanid state quickly. Regardless of the origin of the Samanid dynasty, and the fact that some ancient historians such as Rashid al-Din al-Hamdani mentioned that they were of Oghuz Turkmen origin, I accept what is common among most of the scientific community about the Iranian origin, but when talking about the nature of the Samanid state, I will We find that Turkish influence was very large in the Samanid state, and the Samanid used Central Asian Turks in the army and state positions, as most of the leaders and soldiers of the Samanid army were Turks, and most of the governors of the regions were Turks.
    Therefore, the historian Ibn Miskawayh mentioned that the Samanid state was predominantly Turkish.
    Fourth: It appears from medieval historical sources that the Turkish conversion to Islam in Central Asia occurred gradually and slowly, and we do not have an accurate history about its true beginnings, but it may have begun as early as the middle century AD in the Samanid era and reached its peak in the Qarakhanid era, where the great mass conversion of Central Asian Turks took place. .
    But most Turks in Eurasia remained non-Muslims until the era of the Chinggisid Empire.
    The Qarakhanids tried to spread Islam among the Turks using military force, until the agreement between the Qarakhanids and Sultan Ghaznavid stipulated that the Qarakhanids would complete their conquests against the non-Muslim Turks.
    We should mention the Qarakhanid history objectively, whether in favor of them or against them, so that the Turkish peoples in the future avoid these negatives. Although the Qarakhanids tolerated the Nestorian Church, they were exclusionary against the Buddhists, as Mahmoud Al-Kashgari mentioned that they destroyed the Uighur temples.
    We may find a political justification according to the context of ancient times, because the Qarakhanids tried to unite the Turks politically by imposing religion on them, but this is not enough and does not justify intolerance.
    Fifth: The Qarakhanids played a pivotal role in the land Silk Road trade, and contemporary historical studies have concluded that the thesis that claims the collapse of the land Silk Road after the collapse of the Tang dynasty and its return to work in the Chinggisid Empire is incorrect.
    Historical studies in Chinese records have found that the Qarakhanid dynasty sent dozens of regular trade missions to the Chinese Song dynasty during about more than a century and a half, starting from the tenth century AD. It is even mentioned that in some Qarakhanid trade missions, they were led by a Turkish merchant woman. The Qarakhanid merchant woman negotiated with The Song Emperor and Chinese officials at the Chinese court.
    Even when the land Silk Road from the Gansu region was threatened by Tangut attacks, the Karakhanids chose another land route through the territory of the Kingdom of Tibet.
    Unfortunately, the issue of historical relations between the Turks and Tibet is not discussed much.
    Sixth: The Qarakhanids created a new Turkish civilization in Central Asia. They built new cities, supported trade, built schools for education, and a new architectural style appeared in their era, etc. Therefore, the most prominent Islamic monuments in Transoxiana and Central Asia before the Chingizid era still date back to the Qarakhanid era.
    They contributed to laying the foundations of Turkish Islamic culture, as they translated the Qur’an into the Turkish language, and the first Sufi movements influenced by Turkish culture appeared in their time. The first books of Turkish literature, influenced by Islamic culture, and so on, appeared in their time.
    History books mentioned that the Qarakhanids forced some of the Nomadic Qarluq tribes to settle in the countryside and practice agriculture.
    Seventh: Qarakhanid rule lasted four centuries in three stages:
    The first stage: 250 years ago and was completely independent.
    The second stage: 50 years, during which its eastern part was completely independent, while its western part belonged to the Seljuk Empire.
    The third stage: It lasted about 70 years and was subject to the Qara Khitai state.
    Although ancient historians consider that the Qarakhanid state fell after the attack of the Qara Khitai, who allied with the Qarluq tribes in 1141, the Qarakhanid dynasties continued in the main centers of Central Asia according to the same pattern as the Qarakhanid state. Therefore, contemporary historians consider the Qarakhanid state to have fallen in 1212 after the Khwarezmshahs overthrew the Qarakhanid rulers in their main capitals in Central Asia.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +2

      chinese don't know nothing about Karakhanids!
      you banning Uyghur history.
      Karakhanid are Uyghurs

    • @Reader_curiosity
      @Reader_curiosity Před 2 měsíci +1

      I am not Chinese.
      This is just a nickname in English and Chinese.
      Next time, I ask you to discuss ideas and avoid attacking people without proof.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Reader_curiosity Shut yo mouth, I see your main photo is written on chinese hieroglyphics

    • @Reader_curiosity
      @Reader_curiosity Před 2 měsíci +1

      First: I advise you to understand the approach to pseudonyms and to discuss with me respectfully.
      Pseudonyms do not specify the nationality of commentators.
      This strange nickname is to make my personal identity more anonymous.
      Second: If I changed the nickname to the Sanskrit alphabet, would you call me Indian?
      Third: The ancient Chinese sources are the ones that mentioned that the Karakhanids were Uighurs, while the other Turkish, Persian, and Arab sources did not report that.
      Fourth: Not every Chinese person has a relationship with the Chinese government, as there are Chinese human rights activists.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Reader_curiosity Also why people think Karakhanids are not Uyghurs when Islam and even Karakhanid first king was born in Kashgar!
      Even Uyghur language is Karakhanid, Karakhanid is just dynasty of Karluk and Uyghur (Yagma, Chigil, Tokuz Oghuz) tribes.
      even Karluk themselves are Uyghurs genetic part!
      As like Normandy is not French government just because, they don't called themselves French...
      As like Irish are not Gaelic because they are Irish, what a stupid stereotypes do people have....
      Karakhanids are Uyghur and that's the point

  • @cngreen2950
    @cngreen2950 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Teşekkürler 🇹🇷🌹🌷❤️

  • @AlifBe-oj2wy
    @AlifBe-oj2wy Před 2 měsíci +5

    Qarluks __Ozbek turks
    Qarahanids

  • @mugensie8265
    @mugensie8265 Před měsícem

    Onca kaynaktan bu bilgileri toparlamak ve sunumunu yapmak inanılmaz zaman ve çaba gerektiriyor. Gerçekten çok teşekkür ederim. Afrika'da kimliğimizi anlatmakta çok zorlanıyorum çünkü epey zedelenmiş. Bana düşen görev de bu videoları yaymak olacaktır 🔴⚪

  • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
    @user-fl5mq9kp7g Před 2 měsíci +2

    ❤❤Keep going, brother ❤❤❤❤

  • @irenebermudezabunader6898
    @irenebermudezabunader6898 Před měsícem

    Deepest condolences to you and family and thank you for such a great information. Greetings from Tucson Arizona!

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před měsícem

      Thank you Irene, and hiya back to Arizona. I appreciate your kind words.

  • @Reader_curiosity
    @Reader_curiosity Před 2 měsíci +1

    What do you think of this historical hypothesis about the origin of the Qarakhanids, based on archaeological evidence:
    Some scholars mark the beginning of the history of the Qarakhanids as starting with the year 840, when a new confederation in Semirechye emerged from the Qarluq, Chigil, Yaghma and other Turkic tribes after the fall of the Uyghur Khaganate.
    Due to these multi-tribal components of the new con- federation, the origin of the Qarakhanid ruling elite is considered to be debata- ble.
    The most recent theory based on numismatic evidence has been suggest- ed by Boris Kochnev, who claimed that the Qarakhanid origin related to the Igdish (Idgish) clan of the Chigil tribe that was one of the components of the Qarluq confederation.

  • @Idrissi_Ma
    @Idrissi_Ma Před 4 dny

    Could you please make a documentary about the relation of turkic tribes with tribes from the Caucasus like The Lak tribe I. Dagestan. My wife, a Lak, did her genetic composition test and the results came back being 95%.
    Many of my dog is Tiny friends from different tribes like Arars, Dargın, Kumuic, are mostly Turks as well. Thank you

  • @RostamBahadur
    @RostamBahadur Před 24 dny +1

    First Turkic Muslim Empire was Ghaznavid Empire (962-1186 AD) whose capital was in Ghazni Afghanistan.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 23 dny

      The Karakhanids became Muslim three decades before the Ghaznavid Empire was even created.

    • @user-eq9dr3xs8z
      @user-eq9dr3xs8z Před 18 dny

      Карлуки после Таласской битвы 751 года начали оседлать и принимать ислам, сам Махмуд Газни был тюрком карлуком.

  • @muka74
    @muka74 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Very interesting!

  • @insafahmed6164
    @insafahmed6164 Před 2 měsíci +2

    बहुत सुन्दर प्रस्तुति

  • @siyacer
    @siyacer Před 2 měsíci +2

    My ancestor :)

  • @alperen_au
    @alperen_au Před měsícem

    Size bir tavsiyede bulunacağım, bu paylaşımınızi TÜRKÇE olarakta yayınlarsanız daha fazla kitlelere ulaşırsınız..
    Take my advice.!!!
    Not: Türkler talkan katliamı "Arapların katliamı" yıl 670'lardan 740 talkan katliamı....

  • @ou6775
    @ou6775 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You should study what the Prophet said of the Turks.

    • @na4i1
      @na4i1 Před 2 měsíci

      Up up

  • @ismailozer3298
    @ismailozer3298 Před měsícem

    İnsanlığın efendisi türkler ,tekrar sahneye çıkmaya hazır ve bu bizden bekleniyor,

  • @resilientbit3
    @resilientbit3 Před 2 měsíci

    Please, add the references you researched for your content.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +3

      It's at the end of the video, my friend. All sources and reference used for this documentary.

  • @arikanmetselfactori
    @arikanmetselfactori Před 2 měsíci

    u doing well TURKIC BROTHER ,go on we all proud off u.tel the world the way off the TÜRK🇹🇷

  • @MarmaraKazm-ld7im
    @MarmaraKazm-ld7im Před 2 měsíci +3

    My brave and honourable ancestors,rest in peace

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +2

      Sir, they were Uyghurs...
      are your ancestors Uyghurs?
      Do they speak Uyghur Karakhanid language?

  • @user-mp4cn7or3z
    @user-mp4cn7or3z Před 2 měsíci

    The first Turkish Muslims? What about Volga Bolgars? Didn't they convert to Islam at the same time?

  • @mznxbcv12345
    @mznxbcv12345 Před měsícem

    37:00 This is clearly a Muslim text, author is citing directly from the Qur'an, why is this portrayed as a tengrist, even voice acted without being cited.

  • @vedatuzunlu8869
    @vedatuzunlu8869 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Not Karahannidis ,the real name is ". Karahanlı"

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +2

      Han is not Turkic title.
      True name is Kara Hakan!
      Hakani is language what Uyghurs speak now, is actually Karakhanid language.
      Hakani means king

    • @vedatuzunlu8869
      @vedatuzunlu8869 Před 2 měsíci

      @@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat thankyou

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Kara Khan is the widely recognized transliteration of Kara Han. If you make a video about Kara Khan in English, you better use the term that most people would understand. I really don't think this is so difficult to grasp.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@KhansDen Not Khan but Hakan.
      Khan is Mongol title

    • @SerkanKabak25
      @SerkanKabak25 Před měsícem

      The English word is “Karakhanid”, the Turkish word is “Karahanlı”. The video is in English.

  • @rustam_hamd
    @rustam_hamd Před 2 měsíci

    Are there any descendants of the Chighil tribe here? Please write me

  • @historygeopoliticsen
    @historygeopoliticsen Před 2 měsíci +1

    A small correction, the first Turkic Muslim state is the Volga Bulgar Khanate, not the Qarakhanids.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +4

      That was mentioned in the video. However, I specifically put "empire" into the title to stress that the Karakhanids were the first imperial dynasty to become Muslim. The Volga Bulgars were very significant, too, but more a confederation and less a centralized empire.

    • @historygeopoliticsen
      @historygeopoliticsen Před 2 měsíci

      @@KhansDen I would have reservations on calling the Qarakhanid as a qaghanate/imperium, like the Ghaznavids they were strong but not a qaghanate. In fact, the Volga Bulgars might have more to do with the title if the Hun royal connection claims are true. Another objection I would have would be to the "Göktürks" who actually never existed other than the modern historiography. There was a Türk Qaghanate in the sources but not a Göktürk one.

  • @Ghjkoplokkp
    @Ghjkoplokkp Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hello Sun people. Güneş halkına ezendeş selam olsun!

  • @halt2180
    @halt2180 Před 2 měsíci

    Goguryeo fell around 668. Map in 1:30 is wrong i suppose

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +1

      It is, I didn't have time to update the entire world. Most of the maps from 800 to 1200 I made in the past few days. Thanks for the heads up, though. Appreciated.

    • @halt2180
      @halt2180 Před 2 měsíci

      @@KhansDen still good work. Thanks for giving care about Turk history ❤

  • @alibak5537
    @alibak5537 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Satuk Bugra adopted Sunni Islam to take Samanid assistance in order to overthrow his own uncle. Also Tughrul adopted Sunni Islam to take recognition and legitimacy from Sunni Abbasid Caliph in Baghdad in order to rule Iran and Mesopotamia. Again İtil Bulgars converted to Sunni Islam to take Abbasid assistance against their overlords Jewish Khazars. All examples shows that Turkic rulers adopted Islam in order to have more political power.

  • @AlifBe-oj2wy
    @AlifBe-oj2wy Před 2 měsíci +3

    Qarluqlar bu Uzbeklardir.
    Birinchi islomni qabul qilgan.
    Talas savashida Chinga qarshi muslulmonlar bilan birga yenggan.Ismoil Somoniy ham turk islom tarihchilari oguzlardan ekanin yozishgan

    • @ABC01410
      @ABC01410 Před 2 měsíci

      There is no Uzbek in Qarluqs time, Uzbekhan is a Mongol, is grand son of the Genghis Khan.

    • @AlifBe-oj2wy
      @AlifBe-oj2wy Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@ABC01410
      Uzbeks 90%Qarluqs turks+Ogiz turks+10%Kipchak kurks

  • @TuranicLegioner
    @TuranicLegioner Před 29 dny

    Allah rahmet eylesin, başın sağolsun.

  • @TUR7777
    @TUR7777 Před 2 měsíci

    İlki müslüman Türk devleti bulgaristan değil mi?

  • @tursuntongra6706
    @tursuntongra6706 Před 2 měsíci +1

    To state that Qarakhanids were 'Qarluq' is to greatly oversimplify the complex feudal paradigm of the region. There were the Yaghma and Chigils as well. Basically, turcologists do not agree on which group actually founded the Khaganate or where the actual power rested. To overcomplicate the matter, according to contemporary Chinese Song dynasty records, the Karakhanids were just another branch of post-imperial Uyghurs, just like Qocho and Gansu Uyghurs. On top of that, unlike Arabo-Persian Islamic literature - Karakhanid literature and later the Turki/Chagatai Uyghur literature does not give Qarluqs a more privileged position within the realm. Essentially, the Karakhanid elite referred to themselves as Türks, and if one reads Kashgari attentively, it becomes clear that to him Qarluqs, Oghuz, Uyghurs, Qipchaqs, Qirghiz and others are not Türks. Türks according to him are his people, that is Turkic people who lived in what is today south-western Xinjiang to the shores of lake Issyk-Kol in Kyrgyzstan. All in all, many groups are at play - Qarluqs, Yaghma (Toquz Oghuz), Chigils, Uyghurs and even potentially the Ashina clan.

    • @HasanTemur1
      @HasanTemur1 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Your information about (Kashagri only considered his people as Turks and others aren't), this is actually false, i know Arabic very well, he directly refers to Qirghiz, Uyghur, Oghuz, Yemek, Kipchak....etc tribes as being Turks.
      You should focus more on the contexts when he distinguishes Turks and other tribes. He isn't making other tribes out of being Turks, but referring to the dialects.....

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 Před 2 měsíci

      @@HasanTemur1 Kashgari separates Türk languages from Türk people. It becomes evident when he continuously makes comparative examples in the following manner - the Turks call this this, The Oghuz say this, the Qipchaqs this, etc. This of course means that in his view while other groups speak a 'Türk' language, they are fundamentally not "Türks".

    • @HasanTemur1
      @HasanTemur1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@tursuntongra6706
      Not actually true, in such cases, Kashagri means that this word is in the Oghuz dialect and like this for [other] Turks. He is saying that Oghuz use this word while other Turks use the other.
      anyway you can see clearly he, when mentioning Oghuz, he says (they are a tirbe of Turks), also when he mentioned Qirghiz, Kipchak.....etc
      If anyone knows Arabic literature very well, he could understand from the context that he isn't trying to say that Oghuzes aren't Turks. but referring to dialects of Oghuzes is different from Other Turks...... and so on

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@HasanTemur1 Honestly, I don't know what you are reading. These are some random quotes from the compendium: "I have travelled throughout their cities and steppes, and have learned their dialects and their rhymes; those of the Turks, the Turkman-Oyuz, the Cigil, the Yayma, and the Qirqiz." Another one - "The Oyuz, Qifdaq and Suvarin change every initial mim to ba’. For example, the Turks say: MAN BARDIM man bardim meaning “I went”; these groups say: BAN BARDUM". And yes he does say Oghuz Turks in other instances, because he fails to explicitly distinguish terms Turk and Turkic. This is established from context.

    • @HasanTemur1
      @HasanTemur1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@tursuntongra6706
      You should learn Arabic, then you will recognize why he write these sentences. I have read his book in the original Arabic text, the way of his writing is the same as how did Arabs usd to write their literature books.

  • @emirkaraguelle9600
    @emirkaraguelle9600 Před 2 měsíci

    You mean Zhetysu (Jetisu, Yedisu)

  • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
    @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +1

    I don't understand why people are so dumb?
    How Karakhanid are not Uyghurs if Karakhanids originally came from Region Kashgar from local Karluk king dynasty called Yagma, Chigil actually are Modern Uyghurs from South Region!
    Karakhanid fought not against Uyghurs who were Qocho, they fought against themselves because Satuk Bughra Khan accepted Islam and spread Islam to whole Xinjiang with battle.
    cause nobody wanted to become Muslim, Khotanese, Qocho kingdom were mostly Buddhists that time.
    Uyghurs carry around 60-70% of Karluk blood of Karakhanid dynasty, they write in Arabic Script as Karakhanids, modern Uyghurs language is actually Remnant of Karakhanid Moghulistan Chagatai Karluk language.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Source for your claims, especially the DNA study?

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@KhansDen Any sources that Karakhanid are not Uyghurs?
      Why Uyghurs speak Karluk Karakhanid language, why they live in a cities as like Karakhanid, why they are Muslims, why they write on Arabic scipt as Karakhanids did?
      Just because Karakhanid is just Dynasty, it's consistent of Karluk Uyghur Tribes...
      and nothing more.
      Karakhanid are not a nation but just a dynasty

  • @odilbekb-sarkaev1052
    @odilbekb-sarkaev1052 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Khaqanids.

  • @kemaluzun8245
    @kemaluzun8245 Před 2 měsíci

    Karahanlılar Türkleri Karluklar Dokuz Oğuz'lar

  • @shazadsheralikhan2302
    @shazadsheralikhan2302 Před 2 měsíci

    Kara Kahanids were predominately KARLUK TURK TRIBES

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Před 2 měsíci +2

      And predominantly Uyghurs now...
      Cause Kashgar capital of Karakhanid and the king of Karakhanid was born by local people of Chigil.Yagma his grandsons are also Uyghurs

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +2

      That was mentioned like a dozen times in the video.

  • @gerasimos2112
    @gerasimos2112 Před 2 měsíci +2

    You still dream empires😂

  • @tursuntongra6706
    @tursuntongra6706 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Qirghiz Khanatate borders wrong. Qocho borders wrong. And most importantly Qarakhanid border evolution wrong. and what on earth is a Kimek 'Khaganate'? Karakhanids started as a polity between Kashgar and lake Issyk-Kol and from there on expanded westwards. 26:00 So who are the "True Successors" of the Orkhon Khaganates? Because frankly I do not see a "better" more "fitting" successor than the state of Qocho. If you think the titles are not there, go check again. Everything is there, titles Qaghan/Han as well as Orkhon style long epithet names of rulers. If you think there is no mention of "Türk" by some Arab or Persian, go check Qocho own written record - alongside term 'Uyghur', term Türk often is used to refer to language and people of the realm. But the real meat is that in Qocho there are actual attempts to retell events engraved in stone monuments of Mongolia on paper. Which means they passed down folk memories of past events concerning Khaganates period. On top of that, some of the descendants of the Türk El ruling strata appear much later as prominent members of the Qocho elite, one such example is the family of Tonyukuk himself. Now show me a high medieval Turkic polity where you have all of that? And I didn't even get to the language. Qocho Uyghur is basically the closest High Middle Ages equivalent of Orkhon Turkic, Qarakhanid coming second, and all together with the earlier Orkhon Türk and Orkhon Uyghur forming the Old Turkic language.

    • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
      @user-fl5mq9kp7g Před 2 měsíci

      So why do they use the Persian language? Do they not have a language?

  • @Eliys11
    @Eliys11 Před 20 hodinami

    Турки придумывают себе историю наглым образом воруя чужую. Китайские летописи Сыма Цяня написаны на кыргызском языке китайскими иероглифами об этом кто нибудь знает. Далее, 40 племен кыргызов көк тюрков полностью истребили, и как они это делали вам подскажет игра кыргызов " Көк бөрү" в которой "тайказан" для көк тюрков был предназначен.

  • @junaidahsan783
    @junaidahsan783 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Last turkic state who follow Tengrism religion

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +7

      To the contrary, other contemporary Turkic states like that of the Kimek, the Kipchak-Cuman, the Oghuz and various groups in East Asia converted later.

    • @junaidahsan783
      @junaidahsan783 Před 2 měsíci

      @@KhansDen Make a video on last turkic empire who follow Tengrism religion

  • @m.a.8860
    @m.a.8860 Před 15 dny

    Wat the w...is turkic?? It's Türk!

  • @Ecstaticgoat
    @Ecstaticgoat Před 2 měsíci

    So these were the black khans? Okay

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I don't think they were literally "black" if you are implying that..

    • @Ecstaticgoat
      @Ecstaticgoat Před 2 měsíci

      @@KhansDen no I wasn't.

  • @momojafar9385
    @momojafar9385 Před 2 měsíci +2

    now they atheist

  • @alibak5537
    @alibak5537 Před 2 měsíci +1

    May Tengri take her to Uçmağ

  • @yinsucui135
    @yinsucui135 Před 2 měsíci +2

    fun fact, the Karakhanids were viewing themselves as a Chinese.

    • @denizucar3947
      @denizucar3947 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Nope, some of them called themselves Tamgaç/Tabgaç Khan (King of China) because they ruled over the areas which were formerly ruled by the Tang empire.

    • @yinsucui135
      @yinsucui135 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@denizucar3947 of course yes. They were using Chinese trappings including coins, titles and seals. The country’s nickname was “little China” and Middle Chinese was one of the administrative language. By the way the succeeding Western Liao dynasty was also Chinese

    • @denizucar3947
      @denizucar3947 Před 2 měsíci

      @@yinsucui135 The people who spread Covid-19 were Chinese, too.

    • @denizucar3947
      @denizucar3947 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Might be that they took over some chinese influence, but they identified themselves as turkic for sure 😂. Karakhanids self designastion was Türk hakanlığı. They were proud of their lineage to the legendary Turkic ancestor Alp Er Tonga. A member of the ruling dynasty, Mahmut Al Kashgari, wrote the first Turkic dictionary.
      And the Liao empire was Khitan Mongols.
      Freedom for East Turkestan! Freedom for Uyghurs!

    • @yinsucui135
      @yinsucui135 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@denizucar3947 East turkestan doesn’t exist and yes, both Liao and Qarakhanids identified themselves as Chinese. Seethe and cope the Sinophobic hater 😘