People that don't arm wrestle or train arm wrestling don't understand how small percentages can look like HUGE differences. For instance, in bench pressing, if i can rep 225 for 10, then I can accurately deduce that I will be able to rep 245 for 3 - 4 at least--this is from personal experience and has been consistent. Also, it's easy to go up 5 - 10 lbs weekly on general lifts like bench, squat, curl, deadlift etc.. BUT, in arm wrestling lifts, I can rep 80 lbs for 3 sets of 12 in a fat grip cup, and then can put 85 lbs on the same exercise and can barely move it once, AND i have jot been able to increase my cupping strength in months now. All of that to say, that I 100% agree with Rob and Bowen that 5% strength gain in arm wrestling can make one person look like they are god in that match. So, for non-arm wrestlers, strength gains are not like strength gains in general lifts. Internet troll disclaimer: I am a casual and generally weak person; so to save you time, I already understand my lifts are garbage.
Excellent points… And when you consider that good arm wrestling requires many muscles at the same time… Percentage on your shoulders for bicep back chest core… Then add all that up into a drive it’s a lot of power multiplied
CZcams algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... love this podcast! great dynamic between these 2. Schoolbus seems to fall apart if he loses his hand/wrist in matches. also looked Leonidas has been training hard in these last few months too tho.
A 20-year veteran of the sport has many advantages over a novice, large strength difference aside. The veteran would have better finger, wrist, & hand manipulation at the start, better timing at the Go, probably more stamina, a veteran knows how to pace themselves, etc. Obviously, this is all contingent on roughly equal strength levels.
These compounds are legal in some European and Asian countries. There are many arm wrestlers from these countries. It's never going away. You might create a league that caters to the natural athlete exclusively.
This real talk/thought around the PED-topic and the internet-reality-…problem is dope. Reality check. Still crinching a bit while watching, but I really liked those discussions.
Leonidas is strong. How is it so different for you to get this Ryan?? Has he not proved that time and time again? You keep under estimating his opponents. Larry is a bad ass also! Everyone he beat is great. When will you give him the credit he deserves
I actually would like to see you use trippy machines like the one Adair had built it would be really interesting I know you arent a fan of those thing RVJ but just to check it out
No, I would absolutely use them. Dot if I had access.. I don’t think that they are bad machines in anyway anything that makes you stronger is good… I don’t have access and I do think there are more efficient ways of spending time if time is limited
@@RobVigeantRVJ and that is why you are so watchable, no PED crutch, no fake drama, been tellin' it the same for decades. If I ever actually get into AWing, hopefully you will have a federation for nattys by then. One can dream.
RVJ can't help but be negative by default lol I love watching the him, but I could never be friends with a guy so insecure that he cant respect anybody else for anything ever.
I explained how not gleefully blowing everyone isn’t negativity. I think those guys are trying to appeal to the masses as positive and great guys… hence your comments. But they think same shit inside, they are just too afraid of what it may project to say it.
@@RobVigeantRVJ I'm not claiming to know you, but I've watched tons of your content and I'm usually a big fan of your take. I mean this with all due respect, but I don't care how you try to justify your response in this case. A 19 year old who can already wrist curl 100kg+ is world level and the AW community should be excited by his rapid rise. You didn't even say one positive word about his effort. Instead you went straight to questioning his technique and talking about his weight like a typical internet hater. It's just disappointing that your definition or keeping it "real" never seems to result in praise or positivity.
This is what I’m talking about with the analytics and you can’t just claim something and then not want to hear my rebuttal and say you don’t care… I said he’s very strong clearly… But I would bet my kids heads he can’t actually wrist curl 100 kg… The handle was in the base of his palm multiplying the pressure many times over… For comparison Ryan Bowen just posted a video doing 91 and change… Do I believe for a second he can actually wrist curl 91+ kilograms? Ryan is not known for his incredible wrist strength, and if he did have that kind of strength, he would never be compromised. When I was involved in grip sport little deviations and where you put things make a big difference in pressure applied… These guys wrist curling from the base of the palm. This is what I see and I am positive that none of them are curling anywhere near the weight they’re claiming with their wrist . Said he was very strong, but I shouldn’t have to accept a bullshit lift on a bullshit machine and you guys are calling it. Crazy weights to not be seen as negative. It seems you’ve made up your mind and I’m fine with that. Let’s at least keep it realistic… I don’t have to be blown away by bullshit just because other people are. And as far as being excited about people entering the sport, that’s just a weird notion I don’t care who comes and who goes. I don’t get excited about prospects. I’ve seen a guy like him come every six months some stick around some fall flat and don’t go as high as people thought some do really good some disappear … I don’t have the time to invest in being excited about fucking strangers.
@@RobVigeantRVJtechnique aside, let's just talk about relative strength...as a guy with 1 year experience, he is a freak. He lifted significantly more than Ryan, and more impressively Lachy, the kid is 100% a real talent. You seem unwilling to acknowledge that you spent 99% of the discussion explaining why it wasn't that impressive. "It was a pop lift"..."He's 280lbs" (he's only 250)..."he manipulated his grip"..."maybe Lachlan isn't prepped" (Lachy is currently on a career high trajectory. You seem unwilling to give shine to anybody, including Levan..."but steroids". As to why you should care about new talent and the growth of the sport? Without new talent, and the hype surrounding them, the sport will shrivel and die. The only people who shouldn't care about the future of the sport are self absobed egotists. All that said, I still love your work, but I love a good debate significantly more ❤😂
Hahaha😂Why does nobody see that Levan and the Georgia team planned everything against Devina’s pronator, hand,wrist,forearm, and bicep being destroyed first round by a centerline half kings move done on purpose, because the majority of the community ignorantly thinks Large arm wrestlers are one dimensional. Devon thought this and trained for an extremely hard cupping and side pressure from Levan so Levan finished match first round by destroying the extremely lighter Devon with this move then an easy press. Plus Levan constantly slipping out for the strap Destroyed the hand as well. Second round and then on was easy sailing, but none of the supposed experts see this???😂😂😂😂
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RVJ is the realist dude out there
Yeah he is irl
This is turning into one of my favorite shows. U guys work good together
People that don't arm wrestle or train arm wrestling don't understand how small percentages can look like HUGE differences. For instance, in bench pressing, if i can rep 225 for 10, then I can accurately deduce that I will be able to rep 245 for 3 - 4 at least--this is from personal experience and has been consistent. Also, it's easy to go up 5 - 10 lbs weekly on general lifts like bench, squat, curl, deadlift etc.. BUT, in arm wrestling lifts, I can rep 80 lbs for 3 sets of 12 in a fat grip cup, and then can put 85 lbs on the same exercise and can barely move it once, AND i have jot been able to increase my cupping strength in months now. All of that to say, that I 100% agree with Rob and Bowen that 5% strength gain in arm wrestling can make one person look like they are god in that match. So, for non-arm wrestlers, strength gains are not like strength gains in general lifts.
Internet troll disclaimer: I am a casual and generally weak person; so to save you time, I already understand my lifts are garbage.
Excellent points… And when you consider that good arm wrestling requires many muscles at the same time… Percentage on your shoulders for bicep back chest core… Then add all that up into a drive it’s a lot of power multiplied
man this is so fun the more you get used to each other. a lot of opening up with unusual topics, instead of the same ol same ol like most . thanks
This is an amazing podcast. Ryan and RVJ’s natural friction really makes this thing work. I’m glad they decided to give it a try
Ryan’s ability to NOT get riled up and RVJ’s ability to consistently lose his shit makes this podcast amazing!
Lose my shit is a touch dramatic
I watch most AW podcasts and this is my fave now
Great show. Would make an excellent podcast team.
RJV. ..
I agree. Need a weight cap! 💯
the dysfunctionality between you two. These podcasts are gold.
The most nofuckingbullshitpersin in AW, I fkn love RVJ.
This was the funniest podcast i’ve watched in a while 🤣 Rvj is fucking gold
CZcams algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... love this podcast! great dynamic between these 2.
Schoolbus seems to fall apart if he loses his hand/wrist in matches. also looked Leonidas has been training hard in these last few months too tho.
Please keep this podcast up
Best Podcast.. gets my attention and I stay. Great job Rob and Ryan. Except the frickin Trollers
This is now my favorite arm wrestling show!!
So glad you guys got the echo sorted, I couldn't listen to the last podcast because of it.
Rob, you know my story late 2000,s . I lost a super match 2 to 1 4 months before and 3 months after. I went through him like butter !!!!
I retell your story often
Hell yeah love this ♥️💪🦊🎱
Must say this is the most entertaining one yet. You guys gotta continue this podcast
Every sigma is a Trainwreck inside for sure 💪♥️
That Riekard reminds me of Bam Bam from the Flintstones.
A 20-year veteran of the sport has many advantages over a novice, large strength difference aside. The veteran would have better finger, wrist, & hand manipulation at the start, better timing at the Go, probably more stamina, a veteran knows how to pace themselves, etc. Obviously, this is all contingent on roughly equal strength levels.
Tell that to Reikard Borman he didn't get the memo 😅
Hello from Florida
For one of these episodes you need to get Beerman as a guest.
Why?
These compounds are legal in some European and Asian countries. There are many arm wrestlers from these countries. It's never going away. You might create a league that caters to the natural athlete exclusively.
Aw world doesn't know the kinda man I am but I'll show them 💪♥️🦊🎱 AHOO AHOO AHOO
This real talk/thought around the PED-topic and the internet-reality-…problem is dope. Reality check. Still crinching a bit while watching, but I really liked those discussions.
"I hate fake humble mofo's"
I do, too.
Greets from germany
Ryan, RVJ has your number, and your side pieces number, and your lawyers number.. and so on and so... make the match happen boys.
Awesome podcast guys. Much better then Travis and that Russian dude lol
Lol this is gonna be the past podcast with these two 😂 the disagreement of riekerd is causing too much animosity😂
39:50 this
Ryan and Rob vs Schoolboy /Leonidisas. Team match
1:29:14 But Bowen, you got to Zloty, and got whacked by a natty Latvian that competes in WAF, and is also a Masters puller...😅
Leonidas is strong. How is it so different for you to get this Ryan?? Has he not proved that time and time again? You keep under estimating his opponents. Larry is a bad ass also! Everyone he beat is great. When will you give him the credit he deserves
I actually would like to see you use trippy machines like the one Adair had built it would be really interesting I know you arent a fan of those thing RVJ but just to check it out
No, I would absolutely use them. Dot if I had access..
I don’t think that they are bad machines in anyway anything that makes you stronger is good… I don’t have access and I do think there are more efficient ways of spending time if time is limited
chuck norris is the goat
RVJ does seem to explain away a lot that he himself falls victim to.
RVJ vs Leonidas left
RVJ vs Bowen right
You will get a good paycheck if someone puts together those popular matches
RVJ better take that match quick because I think Leo is leveling up quick
Area of improvement...stop talking over each other.
Yeah sometimes audio gets funky and I can’t hear him on my end until I watch his lips… it’ll sort out
@@RobVigeantRVJ Ah, well that would explain it 👍
Only way RVJ loses to the Great Red Down-under, is if he fails to prep as in times past, lying around drinking and not taking it seriously.
Say what you will, but I don’t lie… I’m an open book
I’ve got a busy life… and demons …
@@RobVigeantRVJ and that is why you are so watchable, no PED crutch, no fake drama, been tellin' it the same for decades. If I ever actually get into AWing, hopefully you will have a federation for nattys by then. One can dream.
Hoping buddy… it starts with acknowledging there is a problem and opening these discussions
RVJ can't help but be negative by default lol
I love watching the him, but I could never be friends with a guy so insecure that he cant respect anybody else for anything ever.
I show lots of respect.
I just don’t give false praise when we are in the game of analysis.
You can’t speak on me personally if you’ve never met me
I explained how not gleefully blowing everyone isn’t negativity.
I think those guys are trying to appeal to the masses as positive and great guys… hence your comments.
But they think same shit inside, they are just too afraid of what it may project to say it.
@@RobVigeantRVJ I'm not claiming to know you, but I've watched tons of your content and I'm usually a big fan of your take.
I mean this with all due respect, but I don't care how you try to justify your response in this case. A 19 year old who can already wrist curl 100kg+ is world level and the AW community should be excited by his rapid rise. You didn't even say one positive word about his effort. Instead you went straight to questioning his technique and talking about his weight like a typical internet hater.
It's just disappointing that your definition or keeping it "real" never seems to result in praise or positivity.
This is what I’m talking about with the analytics and you can’t just claim something and then not want to hear my rebuttal and say you don’t care… I said he’s very strong clearly… But I would bet my kids heads he can’t actually wrist curl 100 kg… The handle was in the base of his palm multiplying the pressure many times over… For comparison Ryan Bowen just posted a video doing 91 and change… Do I believe for a second he can actually wrist curl 91+ kilograms? Ryan is not known for his incredible wrist strength, and if he did have that kind of strength, he would never be compromised.
When I was involved in grip sport little deviations and where you put things make a big difference in pressure applied… These guys wrist curling from the base of the palm.
This is what I see and I am positive that none of them are curling anywhere near the weight they’re claiming with their wrist .
Said he was very strong, but I shouldn’t have to accept a bullshit lift on a bullshit machine and you guys are calling it. Crazy weights to not be seen as negative.
It seems you’ve made up your mind and I’m fine with that. Let’s at least keep it realistic… I don’t have to be blown away by bullshit just because other people are.
And as far as being excited about people entering the sport, that’s just a weird notion I don’t care who comes and who goes. I don’t get excited about prospects. I’ve seen a guy like him come every six months some stick around some fall flat and don’t go as high as people thought some do really good some disappear … I don’t have the time to invest in being excited about fucking strangers.
@@RobVigeantRVJtechnique aside, let's just talk about relative strength...as a guy with 1 year experience, he is a freak. He lifted significantly more than Ryan, and more impressively Lachy, the kid is 100% a real talent.
You seem unwilling to acknowledge that you spent 99% of the discussion explaining why it wasn't that impressive. "It was a pop lift"..."He's 280lbs" (he's only 250)..."he manipulated his grip"..."maybe Lachlan isn't prepped" (Lachy is currently on a career high trajectory. You seem unwilling to give shine to anybody, including Levan..."but steroids".
As to why you should care about new talent and the growth of the sport? Without new talent, and the hype surrounding them, the sport will shrivel and die. The only people who shouldn't care about the future of the sport are self absobed egotists.
All that said, I still love your work, but I love a good debate significantly more ❤😂
Hahaha😂Why does nobody see that Levan and the Georgia team planned everything against Devina’s pronator, hand,wrist,forearm, and bicep being destroyed first round by a centerline half kings move done on purpose, because the majority of the community ignorantly thinks Large arm wrestlers are one dimensional. Devon thought this and trained for an extremely hard cupping and side pressure from Levan so Levan finished match first round by destroying the extremely lighter Devon with this move then an easy press. Plus Levan constantly slipping out for the strap Destroyed the hand as well. Second round and then on was easy sailing, but none of the supposed experts see this???😂😂😂😂
Uhhh… I think we said he was holding it…
What you describe is simple armwrestling prep… it’s not that insightful.
Don’t be a try hard
man does orange guy talk too much
levan still stronger. so meh
You obviously don't watch arm wrestle or understand anything they just said.
levan is still stronger…. what don’t u get?
Rob is such a hater lol
How so ?
@@RobVigeantRVJ Sapthebee winds up Pullers .. I think he hates Devon to.