The Return to High-Stakes Poker | Fedor Holz
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In Episode 33 of the MOPP, we chat with long-time high-stakes MTT pro and holder of the number one spot on the Germany all-time money list, Fedor Holz. In this episode, Fedor shares insights into his journey, why he decided to quit poker and pursue other opportunities in business and investing, and why he decided to make his comeback on the poker scene.
Next to that, Fedor discusses handling success, imposter syndrome, and the pitfalls of the poker world. He delves into the mechanics of his Pokercode program, his views on data analysis, and his role in ensuring fair play on GGPoker.
Plus, learn Fedor's strategies for staying at the top and his philosophy on efficient learning. Don't miss out on this fascinating conversation with one of poker's brightest minds!
0:00 - Introduction
03:00 - Shout out to our sponsor GTO Wizard
04:10 - His breakthrough years in 2013 and 2014
05:40 - Fedors honest reflections on his rise to the top
08:06 - When things started to click and running hot
10:43 - Playing high rollers and not doing as well as people thought
14:40 - Going through some bad variance and handling it badly
17:24 - Experiencing imposter syndrome and not trusting himself
19:40 - How Fedor worked on building a strong belief system
22:45 - Why he thinks his skill sets are more suited to live poker
25:05 - When players started to play back at him and how that increased his edge
28:00 - Not getting the respect he felt he deserved
30:40 - The pitfalls of success and losing connection with friends
32:00 - Finishing poker on a low and grinding for the wrong reasons
36:30 - Fedors win rate compounding due to the factor of his heater
40:15 - How Fedor would get a big edge using just basic math
46:21 - Why he stepped away from poker and not seeing a poker path
48:00 - Transitioning into business and having too much fire power
50:17 - Going from a YOLO mindset to a more balanced perspective
54:10 - The difficulty of knowing which projects to invest in
57:40 - Would Fedor ever start his own poker site?
1:01:24 - Why poker players have a challenge switching to something else
1:03:50 - Creating Pokercode and the lessons he learnt in the process
1:09:40 - The number one lesson Fedor has learnt through Pokercode
1:12:40 - Why Fedor created a seperate coaching group which is “his baby”
1:17:00 - Common leaks that Fedor sees in aspiring players
1:18:13 - Why most players don’t now what it means to be the best
1:24:30 - Being realistic about what poker is for you
1:28:27 - Why the tasks of poker are not very hard
1:30:00 - The Mechanics of Poker 2.0. program
1:32:20 - Coming back to poker and what Fedor did differently
1:34:29 - Seeing huge improvements in certain players
1:37:40 - Using solvers to clean up and reinvent his game
1:39:20 - How the meta has changed to players being more sticky
1:40:08 - Fedors enjoyment of brain vs brain activities
1:42:45 - Why Fedor is against MDA and where he draws the line on what is cheating
1:46:36 - The real problem with data analysis and why it is net negative
1:49:15 - Who should have access to which data and how to level the playing field
1:50:40 - Fedors new position on the GGPoker security team
1:52:26 - Does having hand histories available help the community detect cheaters?
1:55:03 - Fedors unique position to see things from both sides
2:00:19 - If Fedor had to start from zero, how he would get back to the top
2:05:35 - The mistakes players would make trying to implement Fedors blueprint
2:10:20 - Why Fedor prefers to be efficient with tools over planning learning approaches
2:12:22 - Using the pain of tough spots whilst playing to fuel studying
2:14:46 - Why Fedor focuses on the mechanics behind the strategy
2:17:40 - How Fedors current days look and where he spends his time
2:20:00 - What is sparking Fedors curiosity and what he wants to do more of in the future
2:23:40 - The importance of training your mind to generate new ideas
2:26:00 - Adam and Renes summary - Hry
Seems to me rake being too high is a bigger issue than MDA
MDMA?
@@Lexngton mdma ain't an issue imo
@@bryan-still-a-poker-player Yeah, maybe it's the solution even
@@Lexngton😂😂😂
Mass data analysis. Mda for everyone that doesn’t know what MDA is which is probably 99.9999 percent of people.
At 20:32 he admitted using colleagues' hand histories to work out opponents' game? MDA not that bad back then, lol
Good stuff. Incredible value if you're willing to put in the hours.
You'd expect someone like Fedor a young relatively newly established clearly very smart cordial guy to actually be on the side of the poker pros and people who are trying to make a living through the poker dream and not be some delusional guy who only cares about his own pocket and acts like a politician when it comes to these issues the poker community has (like dnegs). But no, its very clear that all he cares about is his own career and pocket and he will never call out GG for their wrong doings. Their cash game rake is disgraceful and unjustifiable, cheating on their website etc. However, all he will yap about is MDA which is the thing that allows people to actually catch bots and cheating in the first place... And nothing but the copy paste "I don't wanna lose my GG cash cow" responses from Fedor about the issues that actually matter. He's lost a lot of peoples respect in this way and I hope who realises that, not that he cares, he's made it very clear all he cares about is $$$.
I love ppl who complain because they never move up in life. Yea Fedor fault for everything that happened to you.
Or he is just correct and you are projecting
Take your meds.
The only poker pros with an ounce of integrity are Jason Koon (and Phil Galfond). Fedor doesn't care about anything except himself and his GG Paycheck.
@@brainflux117 I assume you're unhappy with the rake.
High rake times and low rake times, are a thing in online poker.
Think about it this way.
Would you rather a site, charge medium rake all the time, and the games eventually die?
Or would you rather they charge low rake (or offer substantial rake-back) when the games die, and high-rake when the games are filled with action and are super beatable?
Lets explore the medium rake option:
1) Medium rake means the games are just as beatable all the time, more or less.
2) But the games will become less and less beatable over time, because more and more spots at the table will be filled with someone who takes the game seriously. And not many new/old players join/rejoin the site, because there isn't an outstanding reason to.
3) So poker gets harder over time, as well as less profitable for most people. Meaning from an outside perspective, the reasons to start playing, diminish quickly.
So what about switching it up between high and low rake?
1) Low rake/high rakeback when games are dead, will obviously attract some old players back into the games, and any kind of free cashback promotion will attract plenty of new players too.
2) High rake, will then drive away all those players who were just breaking even, or slightly winning, which will initially boost winrates for everyone. The few good players who stick around, won't be able to put as much pressure on the fish, as 5 "regs" would. So the fish have a good time, and the best players have a good time.
3) When the games eventually die, because everyone knows whether they are/aren't profitable, and less and less of the unprofitable players continue to play. Well, they just lower the rake again!
4) Once they lower the rake again, the best players make a SHIT tonne of money, and many people will talk about it, including them, as far as everyone on the outside of poker can see, "This game is easy money"... Which is EXACTLY how you attract the maximum amount of new players.
5) But if you keep the rake low forever, eventually we run into same problem of, unprofitable players, know they are unprofitable, and have no reason to think things will change so they leave the games, and then everyone makes less and less money, and then "poker is dead" right? If this happens when the rake was low, they're screwed. If it happens when the rake is high? They can lower the rake again, and it will attract plenty of people to play. If it happened when the rake was low, what will attract people to play? Negative rake? Think about it.
Unfortunately there is nothing Fedor can do, this is actually how a poker business is supposed to operate when peaking in popularity as far as i can see... But i'm no expert, just a poker player attempting to analyse the situation. If you have any pushbacks, don't hesitate, i am also here to learn.
About time now I can watch this 10x😡. Stop sitting on these fire videos
Description should say that we can sign up to be on the waitlist. I keep getting baited in these uploads
Yesss!
The prince of poker.. nice
so fedor made millions exploiting fish while analyzing his poker group hands and for sure ghosting aswell, now he wants to make it look that midstakes players are predatory while he has a cfp a poker course and being a figure from the highest rake software LOL
Really interesting answers by Fedor!
Lol. All Fedor cares about is his GG paycheck. It's ok though. Deep down he knows he's wrong and will have to live with that as a burden on his mind.
Really great interview, thank you Fedor for giving us so much free information.
Much appreciated 🙏 🐐
Keep going and good luck with all your businesses and your holistic life 🫶
Strapping in for this one. Fedor is an absolute 🐐
These are the best vids
One of the biggest hypocrites in poker community by far
how come?
@@stein2137His whole presence in last few years is how he wants to help players to grow, preaching healthy mindset, lifestyle etc etc yet, meanwhile he is ambassador of biggest gangsters in poker, platform that doesn't care about players, extracting zillions from the ecosystem, rake is getting higher and higher anually, they had crazy security issues and scandals recently and he didn't tweeted a thing about it, but then suddenly he is so vocal about MDA and how terrible it is for the game. Maybe we should prioritize bigger things that are happening on GG? He sided with network that is paying him instead siding with poker players who are his teammates and sharing the grind with him. At this point he is just the same as DNegz, puppet for whoever offers biggest paycheck
@@stein2137Fedor is already building for years his overall presence as a nice guy who is trying to inspire other young regs to live well balanced/healthy lifestyle/mindset etc etc Meanwhile, he is ambassador of biggest gangsters poker ever saw, they are now making rake increases almost annually and he is not talking anything publicly against it, the super user scandal wasn't even mentioned by him publicly and GG is so gangsta that they tried to increase rake immediately after the super user scandal which is INSANE. They are all pretending they are promoting the game, but you have people that are losing money on the platform without even playing (just look at people who are buying those insane markups for MTT tournaments) and he is not addressing any of these things but the guys like him should be the voice of players because after all, a lot of players are actually his friends. The fact he is talking loudly about MDA and problems of MDA like that's the most important thing really tells how far away we are from getting any progress with GG putting infinite money in their pockets, meanwhile even in this podcast he admitted of looking at other people's hand history (which he didn't played himself) so how is that different to problem he is trying to solve if he is using hands from his stable as well? And he forgets also very important borderline ethical thing how all of his crew were swapping % massively in high rollers and no matter what everyone will say, that's still an edge for a team of players who are doing it. It's a difference if someone can make it on High stakes or not.
15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
Stephen Chidwick and Ike Haxton don’t seem to care if their opponent is on a heater. They play their game the same way
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