Where’s our money? - The “Madgermanes” of Mozambique | DW Documentary

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  • čas přidán 22. 10. 2023
  • They take to the streets with German flags, drums, and whistles: In Mozambique’s capital city of Maputo, the “Madgermanes” are demanding justice.
    Julio Faizal Lakha is one of them. He went to the former East Germany four decades ago on the promise of a good education and well-paid work. But the reality was less than ideal. Half of his wages were withheld and deferred until later. Around 17 thousand other contract workers suffered the same fate. Most returned to Mozambique after Germany’s reunification. They have yet to receive the wages they are owed. And so, loudly, and rhythmically, they continue to demonstrate deep in southern Africa, every Wednesday at 11:00. A report by Marc Erath.
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  • @DWDocumentary
    @DWDocumentary  Před 7 měsíci +16

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    • @superkimzee9003
      @superkimzee9003 Před 7 měsíci

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  • @Dawn_Raider
    @Dawn_Raider Před 7 měsíci +87

    So DDR payed the money to the Mozambique government as a form of debt decrease and the Mozambique government never payed the workers. Seems like a Mozambique government problem to me.

    • @angeline12345
      @angeline12345 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Yep

    • @andzagatsheni521
      @andzagatsheni521 Před 7 měsíci

      😂😂 it's just that we were colonized so much , we think white people are made of money . I remember as children , whenever we see a white person, we saw one like once every 6 months or so . We would run to them and say "money , money" and they would splash us with lots of coins. From 50c to r5. That's why we call a rich black person , umlungu coz they have money , not because they are white .

    • @amanciosibinde8592
      @amanciosibinde8592 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Not at all, is Germany problem, I worked, you pay me

    • @AlexdaCunha
      @AlexdaCunha Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@amanciosibinde8592 the agreement was between the 2 countries. The workers were not hired individually.

    • @AlexdaCunha
      @AlexdaCunha Před 6 měsíci

      @@amanciosibinde8592 70-80% of.the Cuban doctors salary is also paid to the Cuban government. You never saw Cuban doctors demanding extra payments from the countries where they work. Is the same

  • @edilsonbaloi5544
    @edilsonbaloi5544 Před 6 měsíci +7

    My aunt was one of the people that went to Germany. It would be great to see a closure to this madgerman situation..
    Thank you DW News for this documentary

  • @lim8581
    @lim8581 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The resilience and determination of the "Madgermanes" in seeking justice is truly inspiring. This documentary sheds light on an important and often overlooked issue. Thank you for sharing their story.

  • @mutiny_on_the_bounty
    @mutiny_on_the_bounty Před 7 měsíci +39

    They need to go ask the Soviet Union for the money.

  • @walli6388
    @walli6388 Před 7 měsíci +16

    The GDR payed the state of Mozambique. There government owes them.

  • @maryddomingos3980
    @maryddomingos3980 Před 7 měsíci +32

    DW is definitely the best documentary channel

  • @inferno0020
    @inferno0020 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I heard of similar stories about the Vietnamese in the former East Germany.

  • @Still_waiting4U
    @Still_waiting4U Před 7 měsíci +1

    Nice work

  • @peterklopp6291
    @peterklopp6291 Před 6 měsíci +6

    An important report! May the former workers be successful in their endeavor.

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Another truthful and bravery documentary shared by the (DW) channel about Migermana issue ..thank you respectful ( DW) documentary channel for sharing

    • @DWDocumentary
      @DWDocumentary  Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks a lot for watching and for your positive feedback. We appreciate you taking the time to comment and
      are glad you like our content!

    • @ADUAquascaping
      @ADUAquascaping Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@DWDocumentaryYeah, and you crumble when confronted with any criticism 😮😢😂

    • @azza_88-jl1rp
      @azza_88-jl1rp Před 6 měsíci

      @@ADUAquascaping That's some dei minority thats paid a pittance

  • @marvinstone9651
    @marvinstone9651 Před 7 měsíci +17

    African leaders why are you so wicked 😞

  • @AlexdaCunha
    @AlexdaCunha Před 7 měsíci +56

    why they are waving flags from west Germany when they were working for east Germany? If it was paid already now they have to settle this thing inside Mozambique. Europe cannot be responsible for ever for everything wrong in the world.

    • @alancrust
      @alancrust Před 7 měsíci +1

      x2

    • @anita.b
      @anita.b Před 7 měsíci

      I mean Europe is directly responsible for A LOT of the wrongs in the world.
      Parts of world's most contested border between India and Pakistan were drawn in London by an intern FREEHAND.
      I know this isn't what your favourite Far-Right political party/politician is saying but let's try to focus on the realities.

    • @BatsiraiMusuka
      @BatsiraiMusuka Před 7 měsíci +4

      Why would l repay what you loaned me to your father? And not you?
      Europe champions individual rights and freedoms…is that not so?
      They should settle their debts and demand their money back from the Mozambique government.
      Don’t get me wrong…l love Germany. One of my Oma’s was from there. But l believe strongly in people’s rights (especially where the state benefited from their labor). The Mozambican government was the bigger problem to be honest.

    • @AlexdaCunha
      @AlexdaCunha Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@BatsiraiMusuka exactly, from the Mozambique government which already got the money from Germany several years ago.

    • @BatsiraiMusuka
      @BatsiraiMusuka Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@AlexdaCunha l personally hate it when people say “read again” to someone that a reply has obviously gone above their comprehension. So l will endeavor to rephrase myself.
      Governments are there to serve their citizens. When a government that obviously needs all the aid it can reaches out to another country’s citizenry…it assumes responsibility for those citizens.
      Those citizens having done their adopted government a great service are to be paid for that very service.
      Paying their government is not paying the citizens (worse still…not letting the citizens know you are paying their government in lieu of pay them is dishonest).
      Let me put it to you this way…how would you like it if from now onwards your salary were to go first through a third party before coming to you? When the contract was between you and your employer? (Worse still, your employer went ahead and didn’t tell you how much he was allocating through said third party?)
      You may argue…but as you can see even the lady in the German government clearly agrees with my sentiment. Things were not done correctly here.

  • @EustaquioSantimano
    @EustaquioSantimano Před 7 měsíci +3

    DW rocks ! Did not even know about this until today. Keep it going guys !!

    • @DWDocumentary
      @DWDocumentary  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching! We are happy to hear you are enjoying our content :)

  • @pointblank0020
    @pointblank0020 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Nice one, DW. I had no idea about this.

  • @Cha4k
    @Cha4k Před 6 měsíci +2

    Lol I had to check if this was actually Germany or Africa.

  • @olafvonbraun7300
    @olafvonbraun7300 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Lol why carry a EU flag? Should walk around with Marks and Lenin portrait and a Soviet red flag. Viel Glück 😂

  • @nxo91
    @nxo91 Před 6 měsíci

    What a powerful piece of news. A longer docu would be great. Thank u DW.

    • @DWDocumentary
      @DWDocumentary  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching and for the feedback!

  • @kanji_nakamoto
    @kanji_nakamoto Před 6 měsíci +11

    Germany can get a loan and pay the workers. The equivalent to today's money, plus interest. Take the Mozambican to international court of justice and have the Mozambican government pay it and the interest rate over the loan. The longer it takes, the longer they'll pay. The Mozambican government, can then look to track who were the responsible and work it out. I'm sure its not to difficult to find who took the money.

    • @ADUAquascaping
      @ADUAquascaping Před 6 měsíci

      East Germany doesn't even exist anymore. Africans love to conflate resentment with supposed justice. People living today are not responsible for the past. People living today are not responsible for outcomes.
      Just imagine how much wealth they could have produced with their time instead of protesting for decades. It's obvious resentment and is entirely unjustified.
      If anything, the Mozambique government is guilty, not modern Germans!

  • @tobiwan001
    @tobiwan001 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Well, they should ask Russia, who where in charge in East Germany up until 1990.

    • @lordjazoijua94
      @lordjazoijua94 Před 7 měsíci

      Got nothing to do with Russia.

    • @tobiwan001
      @tobiwan001 Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@lordjazoijua94 why not? Russia was in charge. Not Germany.

    • @pointblank0020
      @pointblank0020 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@tobiwan001 they already paid. the money went into Mozambican politician pockets.

  • @zat0076
    @zat0076 Před 6 měsíci +3

    if germany must pay it should be a direct payment to the victims.
    why give millions to those corrupt african political merchants

  • @karlheinz9829
    @karlheinz9829 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The whole thing is hypocritical, their own state offered them as labour and was paid for it in some form by the GDR. And don't forget, at that time they were only paid in Ostmarks, which were worthless internationally.

  • @jaylew6890
    @jaylew6890 Před 6 měsíci

    aluta continua🇲🇿

  • @garveycampbell80
    @garveycampbell80 Před 7 měsíci +18

    If Someone does Work for an employer, and the employer pays the money earned to a 3rd Party......thats the employers mistake, and their responsibility to rectify......Pay the workers what they're owed!

    • @ADUAquascaping
      @ADUAquascaping Před 6 měsíci +5

      No, you're incorrect. They were hired via a government program. It's not the employer's fault that the government stole the money from their workers. The workers were contracted via their government.

    • @ADUAquascaping
      @ADUAquascaping Před 6 měsíci

      East Germany doesn't even exist anymore. Africans love to conflate resentment with supposed justice. People living today are not responsible for the past. People living today are not responsible for outcomes.
      Just imagine how much wealth they could have produced with their time instead of protesting for decades. It's obvious resentment and is entirely unjustified.
      If anything, the Mozambique government is guilty, not modern Germans!

    • @garveycampbell80
      @garveycampbell80 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ADUAquascaping Actually it is, Colonialist Countries have been installing supporting and using corrupt Governments for decades as a way of obtaining resources for a fraction of the cost since Slavery was abolished.
      This is no different. When Countries in Africa want loans from western countries that attempted to colonize or enslave them, those countries impose restrictions that inhibit development and growth along with a ridiculous amount of debt.
      If they can impose rules that work against a country then they can impose rules that benefit the people that they are employing in that country. It's not hard to use geopolitical pressure to ensure a Government does things the right way. The The fact that they did not ensure the workers would be paid in this situation, or seek to protect the rights of those workers speaks volumes. And it achieves the same goals as Colonialism........
      Resource Extraction
      Arrested Development
      Exploitation
      Injustice
      It's no wonder why countries in the Global South view countries in the West with a Deep level of distrust...........The West Colonised and Enslaved Africans in order to boost its economy and industrialze itself, improving the living stands of its people while abusing people in other countries.
      Nothing has changed.

  • @e24news_KE
    @e24news_KE Před 6 měsíci

    informative though at time I disagree with western media Bias as an African, this is a good one and hope modern Africans are negotiation the current job vacancies in the the global North as we know that German do not have enough labor since population is majorly old , old the new workers are getting good deals like Natives would

  • @vlogsereaccoesdosimon258
    @vlogsereaccoesdosimon258 Před 5 měsíci

    That's very sad what the mozambican government are doing for madjermanes...my parents are madjermanes...we are feeling the pain of this...

  • @DaliHas
    @DaliHas Před 6 měsíci +1

    People meet to move on and work, move on

  • @mausilugner6637
    @mausilugner6637 Před 6 měsíci

    33 years after reunification ... just in time 😄

  • @ChrisTian-yw7jc
    @ChrisTian-yw7jc Před 7 měsíci +2

    Pacta sunz servanda. Germany did.

  • @mothaybabonnam5632
    @mothaybabonnam5632 Před 7 měsíci +3

    “Karl marx avenue” lmao

  • @ingislakur
    @ingislakur Před 7 měsíci +5

    People say colonizing past is the problem. No way, its the CURRENT african leaders curroption.

    • @GoingtoHecq
      @GoingtoHecq Před 6 měsíci

      Colonizers made these corrupt governments to serve them.

  • @HubasaFamily254
    @HubasaFamily254 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Poverty and Africans is more or less the same thing, even if you pay them, they're still gonna end miserable.I'm African too but this is my strong analysis regardless...

  • @greatboniwanker
    @greatboniwanker Před 7 měsíci +9

    To be fair, at least DW is covering this issue where most news outlets from Germany are not.

    • @kreterakete
      @kreterakete Před 7 měsíci +1

      Why should they ? It’s a Mosambik problem.

  • @justme1553
    @justme1553 Před 4 měsíci

    I disagree. The DDR was a different government from West Germany. Once the reunification happened the old DDR government was disolved. Germany is not East or West Germany anymore. The bill should not fall on current Germany. Also, it seemed like they got scamed by their own government as well.

  • @randyraudi7725
    @randyraudi7725 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Isn't it responsibility of the ones that bought the companies after the downfall of the wall ? When you buy a company you also buy all obligations right ?

  • @rajkanorom2323
    @rajkanorom2323 Před 3 měsíci

    Why would Germany pay twice, when the real thieves were (are) govt of the Mozambique?

  • @statecraft3603
    @statecraft3603 Před 7 měsíci +8

    😢This is how innocent people trade their time for slavery 😮

  • @shjakes
    @shjakes Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thank you DW for this very informative doco. It is incredible that in an age well-beyond the systems of Slavery, Indentured Servitude and Sharecropping in the "First World"...we see this brazen exploitation of poor, Black people in a developed country like Germany. Germans are notorious for their meticulous record keeping, maintaining the chain of command, proper protocol etc. Yet they contravene they established terms of a labour agreement, where they were supposed to pay these workers directly...to arbitrarily making deductions from their pay, to service debts owed by the Mozambique government...a government full of corrupt, self-serving leeches.
    Germany would NEVER have done such an underhanded thing with another European country, regardless of how POOR & IGNORANT the workers were. The sad thing is, no one is taking these “Madgermanes” seriously. Their government allows them to blow off steam once per week, and they've turned their protest into a mini Carnival. No investigation has or will ever be launched to determine where their pension contributions went. It is not hard to believe that gov't officials in both Mozambique and Germany are just waiting for these people to get old, tired and just die.

  • @abgzulkifli
    @abgzulkifli Před 7 měsíci +1

    Nothing changes it always there

  • @betterpoliticsquetu
    @betterpoliticsquetu Před 6 měsíci

    respect for reporting on this
    govs have way too much power
    which is best in the world idk
    and then they talk about pro israel

    • @ADUAquascaping
      @ADUAquascaping Před 6 měsíci

      Jews are indigenous to Israel and were refugees fleeing genocide. Palestinians started the physical violence! Research it, I dare you. Islam is full of hypocrites and extremists. Name a Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, or Jewish terrorist organization who kills in the name of God? Who is killing in the name of God other than Jihadists?

    • @ADUAquascaping
      @ADUAquascaping Před 6 měsíci

      Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with them both) said that he heard the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) saying: “The Antichrist will pass by this salty barren area i.e. Madinah, in a passage of a canal. Most of those who will come out to him will be women so that a man will return to his intimate wife, mother, daughter, sister or aunt to tie them up for fear that they might go out to him. Then, Allah will afflict him with Muslims who kill him and his followers and the Jews will hide behind a tree or a rock and the rock or the tree will say to the Muslim: There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!” 3 This Hadith was reported by Ahmad in his Musnad.

    • @ADUAquascaping
      @ADUAquascaping Před 6 měsíci

      Arabs invaded Israel. Islam invaded dozens of countries (regions) and forced conversions

  • @bmig790
    @bmig790 Před 6 měsíci

    Karma

  • @wasimnjh
    @wasimnjh Před 7 měsíci +1

    🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

  • @abgzulkifli
    @abgzulkifli Před 7 měsíci

    I'm sorry, not my false but I can see it

  • @alh9338
    @alh9338 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Cannot wait to hear this extortion😅

  • @JTulip
    @JTulip Před 7 měsíci +3

    Stuff like this is what gets views, shares, and engagement on social media now. It's good we are highlighting issues like this but it's important to remember that these are the viewpoints of a small minority of people and do not reflect society as a whole. "Give me my money" is what they're saying but what are those in power or the government doing to actually make this happen?

    • @pointblank0020
      @pointblank0020 Před 7 měsíci

      You're saying they need to get violent?

    • @anita.b
      @anita.b Před 7 měsíci +1

      "Hey bro topple the government to get paid for your work you did 5000KM away in Germany"

    • @tuforu4
      @tuforu4 Před 7 měsíci

      AFRICA leaders never saw the HUNGRY ORPHANS IN KENYA And UGANDA either.

  • @aprilsmith3683
    @aprilsmith3683 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Come on Germany...
    Do the lawful thing...
    Make this right...
    🇿🇦🕊🇩🇪

  • @user-qg5hm8wx3e
    @user-qg5hm8wx3e Před 6 měsíci

    Is there a place west haven't robbed?

  • @annasvensson3533
    @annasvensson3533 Před 6 měsíci

    HELP @DW Documentary! You had a GREAT Docu aout Karl Marx but I CAN NOT find it!??? Could you pplease tell me where it is? It was about 45 minutes I think. Karl Marx, Philosophy and his way of thinking.

  • @user-bw5do5fp5u
    @user-bw5do5fp5u Před 7 měsíci

    Some off have with sister

  • @ceeal2943
    @ceeal2943 Před 2 měsíci

    Yeah everybody wants the Germans money

  • @TDRN1
    @TDRN1 Před 7 měsíci +8

    gebt ihnen ihr Geld!

  • @connectingthedots100
    @connectingthedots100 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Aw pay them please!

  • @wadi5145
    @wadi5145 Před 7 měsíci +1

    So these are the original Germanic tribesmen!? 🤯

  • @mothaybabonnam5632
    @mothaybabonnam5632 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Have they considered earning their own money, like the rest of the world ?

    • @andreaslach691
      @andreaslach691 Před 7 měsíci

      You might think about that again.
      Western welth is build on colnoes. Exploiting their resorces.
      And that basicly never stopped. Today interntional industries still get out whatever they can.
      The playingfeld is not even.

    • @anita.b
      @anita.b Před 7 měsíci +4

      Have you?

    • @contentedbuddha
      @contentedbuddha Před 7 měsíci +4

      They did work, but they didn’t get paid. Did you watch the video?

    • @TWUMKWAME5
      @TWUMKWAME5 Před 7 měsíci +2

      What are you talking about? Do you work for free? They are demanding the wages they earn, do you understand that?

  • @srikatondharma8762
    @srikatondharma8762 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Your money went to ukraine

  • @serge7530
    @serge7530 Před 6 měsíci

    Shame on Germany for such abuse and exploitation of the poorest people and countries.

    • @tattie278
      @tattie278 Před 6 měsíci

      You need to pay attention. The GDR paid the money to the Mozambique government; later on the government of a unified Germany paid again and the money was stolen by Mozambican politicians. How many times do you expect Germany to pay? The responsibility is with the corrupt government of Mozambique.

    • @kermitthethinker1465
      @kermitthethinker1465 Před 16 dny

      It was the Mozambican government that stole thw wages.

  • @lordjazoijua94
    @lordjazoijua94 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Germany should just pay the money.

    • @swanky_yuropean7514
      @swanky_yuropean7514 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Germany paid twice already. Both times the Mozambique governmet stole the money.

    • @ChrisTian-yw7jc
      @ChrisTian-yw7jc Před 7 měsíci +8

      Contract are to be obligated. Germany fulfilled their part. And more than that.

    • @aliancemd
      @aliancemd Před 7 měsíci +4

      Germany abided by the contract with Mozambique and on top of that, they decided to pay these workers 75 million euros, which the Mozambique government pocketed - Germany has absolutely nothing more to do here, they already went overboard for them.

  • @mrsporty9669
    @mrsporty9669 Před 6 měsíci

    Germany have to pay

  • @esmailmussa657
    @esmailmussa657 Před 5 měsíci

    60% de acordo o jornalista diz normalmente o dinheiro é transfered mensalmente
    É contactar embaixada Alemanha para ajudar localizar e clarificar esta situação financeira boa sorte

    • @DWDocumentary
      @DWDocumentary  Před 5 měsíci

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      so that we can answer questions and encourage dialogue.
      Thank you and all the best,
      The DW Documentary Team

  • @kreterakete
    @kreterakete Před 7 měsíci +2

    Deutschland sollte Mosambik adoptieren. Oder einfach kaufen. Es wäre schön wenn Deutschland ein afrikanisches Land aufbaut und es freundschaftlich unterhält.

    • @GoingtoHecq
      @GoingtoHecq Před 6 měsíci

      Please, people are not property.

  • @esmailmussa657
    @esmailmussa657 Před 5 měsíci

    Meus irmão não deixar é vosso direito. Se não receberam o dinheiro frelimo roubou e ja comeu e cagou. Vamos limpar com estes ladrões. Forca

    • @DWDocumentary
      @DWDocumentary  Před 5 měsíci

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      so that we can answer questions and encourage dialogue.
      Thank you and all the best,
      The DW Documentary Team

  • @israel_started_it_ALL_in_1948
    @israel_started_it_ALL_in_1948 Před 7 měsíci +1

    ok

  • @abgzulkifli
    @abgzulkifli Před 7 měsíci +2

    Nothing changes it always there