I think the extra weight is from when you change the earlier style comp where the rotor gets replaced too. It is heavier than the newer setup. The spring pack and housing are attached to the rotor and aren't removable. My 09 road King has a 110 from the factory with the older rotor and it is bigger. My question is if you have to install the oil deflector and taper head bolt kit per the instructions. I think the oil passages for the Man O War need to have oil poured on them to lube the inner bushings or you get noise and early wear. The special bolt and deflector would make more oil go into the passages but not sure if it is really required. Gonna make a call in the morning and see what the deal is. Hopefully I can skip them, otherwise it's another wait to get the extra parts that are probably on backorder like everything else from Harley.
I've heard that replacing the OEM compensator with the Man-0-War eliminator makes it easier to get the bike into neutral. True or false? My 103 has only done 8000 miles from new and is almost impossible to go from 1st year to neutral, so I always have to go into 2nd gear before I take it back into neutral.
Great video 🏆 would this void my Harley warranty if I had a man of war motorsproket installed on my 2019 heritage ?? Plus would it give me a stronger pull on torque ?? Thank you
Installed the ManOWar. Love it. Solid idling. No more clunking from the SE Comp. Questions: you say the “tensioner came with” ?? Not mine. I did go to a non-auto tensioner. It’s louder. Also, you changed just the clutch basket itself?? Why? (Hope this ain’t in the dumb question dept) As far as noise comments, Darkhorse does say there will be chattering on older hi-mileage Twin Cams when in neutral and lever disengaged. That noise is minor compared to the tensioner noise I have. Thanks for the video and your time. EDIT; I installed a Hayden tensioner and it’s ok.
I was wondering the same thing on the tensioner. I didn't get one either. I talked to Andrew at Darkhorse. He said they used the SE tensioner during all their testing. I talked to Andrew and T-Man Performance about the noise I was getting. Found it wasn't the comp sprocket but the transmission. It was suggested that in pre M-8 motors, you either live with it or you can change out the countershaft low gear in the transmission to the M-8 gear and it will make all the difference in the world. I'm using the M-6 tensioner and don't care for it. I'm looking at some options... Baker manual or the PSR (replaced the Twin Power) manual.
@@tomjones4093 Good info. I just edited my comment to add that I installed a Hayden tensioner. I’m not totally sold on them but I’ve had them on 3 bikes. I still remove the Hayden about every 15k and inspect the springs to verify not broken. Next one might be a Twin Power manual. Baker is great too but $$$$.
@@dougfresh1341 ... Look at the PSR manual tensioner. I think it replaced the Twin Power since Twin Power doesn't seem to be in business any longer. I did try the Twin Power when I had my motor rebuilt. At 786 miles, the shoe was trash. Chain chewed right through it. Don't know if it was because I have more than the 1/2 inch play Darkhorse recommends or what. I'm thinking the PSR will be my next choice and get it to the 1/2 inch play and see what happens. Darkhorse recommends the updated SE tensioner. Andrew said they did all their testing with it.
Hmmm causing problems now …. My run out is worse but of course damn Harley can’t put in quality engine parts like a great true balanced flywheel I swear momey f pit!! Oil pump the flywheel the compensator the clutch basket God damn entire bike The suspension sucks The HP/Tq The wobbles due to frame Indian keeps looking better I just keep going down the same money rabbit hole pit w HD My run out is 6 thousand now More god damn money
I just ordered the 34. I was told they’re not making the 32 anymore. Something about chain to sprocket angle issues is what I was told. The benefits of a 32 sound good I ride at higher RPMs anyway, but not if reliability is in question.
Wow isnt the HD headquarter not angry with you ? But maybe your an independent Harley shop. Mostley they are very strict when you dare say Harley parts are junk. At least i you are an official HD dealer.
@@freedom6919741 How many miles did you have on your stock clutch before you changed it out ? I have 2010 fatboy stock 96 with 6,266 miles Putting a man of war sprocket in my bike next week. Just curious about clutch noise and how many miles ? I’m guessing I won’t have to worry for awhile yet ?
Waiting for my Man O’War compensator to come in and can’t wait to get it installed. 😜😎
How's the bike since you did the upgrade Chris?
Buongiorno questo compensatore è adatto per trike harley davidson flhtcutg anno 2011? Grazie buona giornata.
Don’t think I would be getting Thor to install mine 🤣🤣🤣
Buongiorno è compatibile con trike harley davidson flhtcutg anno 2011? Grazie buona giornata
I think the extra weight is from when you change the earlier style comp where the rotor gets replaced too. It is heavier than the newer setup. The spring pack and housing are attached to the rotor and aren't removable. My 09 road King has a 110 from the factory with the older rotor and it is bigger. My question is if you have to install the oil deflector and taper head bolt kit per the instructions. I think the oil passages for the Man O War need to have oil poured on them to lube the inner bushings or you get noise and early wear. The special bolt and deflector would make more oil go into the passages but not sure if it is really required. Gonna make a call in the morning and see what the deal is. Hopefully I can skip them, otherwise it's another wait to get the extra parts that are probably on backorder like everything else from Harley.
Did the scale show only a half pound difference between the two?
4:48 Does it owe him money?🤣
I got my compensator but no chain tensioner what is the one you have
If your compensator is not the disposable part. Guess what is? RIP chain and tranny
right on pulled that DarkHorse out of my bike back to one that compensates like they are susposed to be.
I've heard that replacing the OEM compensator with the Man-0-War eliminator makes it easier to get the bike into neutral. True or false? My 103 has only done 8000 miles from new and is almost impossible to go from 1st year to neutral, so I always have to go into 2nd gear before I take it back into neutral.
Google Hayden M6 BT07 and that will help you get back into neutral for a lot less money.
@@psychoticmemories2583 Thank you, much appreciated.
so its a half a pound lighter and not two lbs?
Great video 🏆 would this void my Harley warranty if I had a man of war motorsproket installed on my 2019 heritage ?? Plus would it give me a stronger pull on torque ?? Thank you
As long as the man o war comp does not damage your motorcycle, they can't arbitrarily void your warranty.
@@BBD40 thank you so much for the info 👍
Was that 1/2lbs lighter?
Barely. Closer to one pound.
Installed the ManOWar. Love it. Solid idling. No more clunking from the SE Comp.
Questions: you say the “tensioner came with” ?? Not mine. I did go to a non-auto tensioner. It’s louder.
Also, you changed just the clutch basket itself?? Why? (Hope this ain’t in the dumb question dept)
As far as noise comments, Darkhorse does say there will be chattering on older hi-mileage Twin Cams when in neutral and lever disengaged.
That noise is minor compared to the tensioner noise I have.
Thanks for the video and your time.
EDIT; I installed a Hayden tensioner and it’s ok.
I was wondering the same thing on the tensioner. I didn't get one either. I talked to Andrew at Darkhorse. He said they used the SE tensioner during all their testing. I talked to Andrew and T-Man Performance about the noise I was getting. Found it wasn't the comp sprocket but the transmission. It was suggested that in pre M-8 motors, you either live with it or you can change out the countershaft low gear in the transmission to the M-8 gear and it will make all the difference in the world. I'm using the M-6 tensioner and don't care for it. I'm looking at some options... Baker manual or the PSR (replaced the Twin Power) manual.
@@tomjones4093 Good info. I just edited my comment to add that I installed a Hayden tensioner. I’m not totally sold on them but I’ve had them on 3 bikes. I still remove the Hayden about every 15k and inspect the springs to verify not broken.
Next one might be a Twin Power manual. Baker is great too but $$$$.
@@dougfresh1341 ... Look at the PSR manual tensioner. I think it replaced the Twin Power since Twin Power doesn't seem to be in business any longer. I did try the Twin Power when I had my motor rebuilt. At 786 miles, the shoe was trash. Chain chewed right through it. Don't know if it was because I have more than the 1/2 inch play Darkhorse recommends or what. I'm thinking the PSR will be my next choice and get it to the 1/2 inch play and see what happens. Darkhorse recommends the updated SE tensioner. Andrew said they did all their testing with it.
Hmmm causing problems now …. My run out is worse but of course damn Harley can’t put in quality engine parts like a great true balanced flywheel
I swear momey f pit!! Oil pump the flywheel the compensator the clutch basket
God damn entire bike
The suspension sucks
The HP/Tq
The wobbles due to frame
Indian keeps looking better
I just keep going down the same money rabbit hole pit w HD
My run out is 6 thousand now
More god damn money
Stock seems to weigh 8.5'ish? False advertising from man0war!
34T or 32T?
I just ordered the 34. I was told they’re not making the 32 anymore. Something about chain to sprocket angle issues is what I was told. The benefits of a 32 sound good I ride at higher RPMs anyway, but not if reliability is in question.
Wow isnt the HD headquarter not angry with you ?
But maybe your an independent Harley shop.
Mostley they are very strict when you dare say Harley parts are junk.
At least i you are an official HD dealer.
HD does allow a little bit of room for us to make comments regarding product. Sometimes we are asked to hold back some but not frequently.
I have one in my 124. It’s loud and annoying.
You have noise from either a worn clutch basket or excessive clearances in the trans. Also a manual adjuster will make more noise until it broken in .
@@davidwatson6404 changed the clutch to a Bandit Sportsman today. Noise is gone. Like a new bike !
@@freedom6919741
How many miles did you have on your stock clutch before you changed it out ?
I have 2010 fatboy stock 96 with 6,266 miles
Putting a man of war sprocket in my bike next week. Just curious about clutch noise and how many miles ? I’m guessing I won’t have to worry for awhile yet ?
@@James-fk2sb 22700 when I changed it.
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