SUPERCUB: 2019 Honda Super Cub C125 // Rear Tire Change the Hard Way
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- Today is March 6, 2021, and I'm replacing the rear tire on my Super Cub before my upcoming Scooter Cannonball Run trip in July. I'll be installing a set of @Michelin USA Pilot Street tires before the 10K mile trip around the country. The goal of this exercise is to complete the task with only the minimal tools that we'll be carrying with us on the Cannonball, so that means NO CHEATING with bench vices, clamps, or power tools! Skip around with the chapter markers below.
Tools used and product links:
Motion Pro Valve Core Remover (08-0183): amzn.to/3Rqjdtz
Motion Pro Rim Shield II (08-0546): amzn.to/3P0b4ug
Motion Pro Tire Iron Set (08-0049): amzn.to/3yZzgHF
Black 90-degree CNC valve stems 10.0-11.3mm: amzn.to/3c3WgfE
Michelin 70/90-17 front tire (35463): amzn.to/3nUlX55
Michelin 80/90-17 rear tire (74609): amzn.to/3NZqePi
Ride-On Motorcycle Tire Balancer & Sealant 8oz: amzn.to/3o4T0mN
Playlist for our Super Cubs on the 2022 Scooter Cannonball Run: • Scooter Cannonball 202...
The OEM rear tire survived ~4500 miles of highway touring before it squared-off and lost all the tread in the center. I'm not sure how long the Michelin tires will last compared to the original IRC tires under "normal" riding conditions. However, I'm sure that the Michelin's will have better wet grip, and that's important for my long tour around the country. 😉👍
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Time indexes:
0:00 Overview of today's maintenance tasks for the Cub
5:00 Finally making progress, tire bead is broken away from the rim
8:06 Don't skimp on the tire levers or rim protectors for this job
10:06 Pulling the second bead off the rim, soapy water helps
11:12 Inside of the rim is clean, and the @Ride-On Tire Protection sealer is still good in the tire after 2 years!
12:15 Cutting out the old valve stem, installing the new 90° aluminum stem
15:06 Installing the new tire, zip-ties to the rescue!
19:56 Ensure the tire beads are dipped to the center of the rim before taking the last bites!
20:56 Setting the tire's beads... listen for the two POPS!
23:26 Balance the wheel and check/clean the rear brakes before reassembly
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QM
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In my experience, bottle of soapy water, C- clamps, some scrap pieces of wood along with not getting "greedy" (🤣) makes tire changing more bearable. On second thought, gettin' 'er done is what matters. 👍
Agreed... C-clamps for the win! I was doing this one as "manual" as possible with the tools that I'd be carrying on the Scooter Cannonball Run trip... just for the painful practice! 🤣👍 --QM
You are much more patient that me, for sure! I think I would have given up pretty quickly and just take the rims/tires to a tire shop to remove/install! I've said this so many times, but I really enjoy your videos and I never fail to learn something! Thank you, Quasi, for being such a great teacher!
Good video. I especially like the ziptie trick.
Here are a couple of things I have learned:
The Motion Pro BeadPro levers are good for unseating the bead. The short ones are plenty, and they travel well.
Old plastic milk jugs or anti-freeze jugs make good rim protectors.
Getting the last part of the bead in, I like to use my knees to hold the tire in the rim channel at 3 and 9 o'clock and push the tire on with my hands at 12 o'clock.
Also, if you cuss a lot more while doing a tire change, it helps. Not so much with the tire changing, but it's much more entertaining for bystanders. Although, you would have to do mostly dad cussing given the age of your bystander.
Thanks for the feedback, Scott! I was intentionally doing this tire change the hard way with minimal tools that I planned to carry on my Scooter Cannonball Run trip. This was emergency road practice! 😉 We actually upgraded our road kit to include the Motion Pro BeadPro levers along with my larger tire lever to make the job easier. I thought about using plastic jugs for rim protectors, but we weren't planning to carry any large, empty jugs on the trip.
We swapped rear tires 6 times (3 each bike) during that 10K mile trip, so we became very proficient at it. We got down to only 15-20 minutes round trip, and that included dropping and reattaching the trailers. That's not quite F1 pitstop speed, but not bad for mini-moto madness! We opted to change the tires at or near truck stops the last couple of times so we could take advantage of their high-pressure air pumps... that made setting the bead much faster. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I watched a different video on how to change a tire and he set the tire in the sun for 20 minutes before taking it off and also before putting it on. He used soapy water also. I think heating the tire really softened it and made it much easier. I definitely like the cable tie idea!!!!
Yep, I've used that trick on many tires. The heat from the sun can help to soften the sidewalls and carcass a little bit to make it easier to get seated on the rim. I was trying not to "cheat" with the soapy water because I knew that we probably wouldn't have that with us on the road during the Scooter Cannonball Run. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Little tip. We use a garden spade between the tyre and rim. Lay the wheel on the ground, and step on the spade and it breaks any bead real easy.This is a tip from the Tt races isle of man on our race bikes (R6)
Agreed! I was intentionally doing this tire change the hard way with only the minimal tools that I planned to carry during my upcoming cross-country ride for the 2021 Scooter Cannonball Run. So, this was emergency road practice! 😉
We upgraded our road tool kits to include the Motion Pro BeadPro levers and a larger tire lever to make the job easier. We swapped rear tires 6 times (3 each bike) during that 10K mile trip, so we became very proficient at it. We got down to only 15-20 minutes round trip, and that included dropping and reattaching our trailers. That's not quite F1 pitstop speed, but it's not bad for mini-moto madness! We opted to change the tires at or near truck stops the last couple of times so we could take advantage of their high-pressure air pumps... that made setting the bead much faster. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I gotta hand it to ya. You didn't lose your temper at all. If that was me I would have had to walk away several times. Good form.
🤣 That's the beauty of video editing... I can clip my canniption fits out of the final video! I had a few moments in there with a slew of 4-letter screaming tirades when I was trying to keep the tire beads down in the center of the rim.
Luckily, that wasn't my first rodeo with difficult motorcycle tires. I knew where I was headed, but I didn't know exactly how to get there until I arrived. 🤣👍 --QM
This is a good video. I learn SO much from you! Thank you for all of your information, Rev. Guy
Dawn dish soap, always here. Windex evaporates to quick.
Yep, I emptied out that bottle of Windex pretty fast! I usually grab a small plastic dish from the kitchen and use 6:1 water to dish soap, and a few soaked paper towels as applicators. Cheap and easy clean up. 😉👍 --QM
i use to use mike jugs because they thinner. but after watching you change the trail tire and this tire. my old ass is taking to a shop.
Just got the 2022 Honda Pcx yesterday 7/14/2022 30 liter underseat storage. It does have that rear wheel locking lever like the ADV. From the Benelli TNT 135 to a 2022 PCX yeppy what a difference!!!
Congrats on your new PCX! 👏😉👍 --QM
Mostly I use dish soap mix with water work better removing tires from the rim! Mr. Aaron
What a coincidence.
Just changed my rear tyre on the road.
I hope to find a 17-3.00 similarly sized rear tyre that lasts more than 6000km/4500 miles.
some C clamps can help get the bead in the well.
So I put mine up on two jackstands one on each side, and I put cloths in between the jackstands and the paint so I did end up, changing it all by myself because I don’t have have a choice, but it was a pain in the booty
Hey Quasi, your strength is our strength! Good lord what a pain but you show that changing out a tire can be done with minimal tools with maximum effort! Got a question about changing out tires on the road: "How do you balance the tire"? I'm curious about running the tire after it's mounted, any tricks or advice? Thanks for making these vids!
Thanks, Dean! I practiced this one the hard way intentionally because I knew that we'd need to do this a few times during our extended road trip. C-clamps and other tools obviously make the job easier, but those "cheats" would have added weight and complexity to our road kit.
That's a good question regarding the balancing. We didn't balance our rear replacement tires on the road because we didn't have a balancing stand or any other easy way to do it. These tires don't have a LOT of mass to them, so we didn't really notice whether they were out of balance... the extra load on the rear of the bikes probably damped it enough to be a non-issue. If we replaced a front tire, then an out-of-balance tire might have been more noticeable in the handlebars. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I love michelin tires. I have a set of PR5's on the ctx and they are cadillac !
Absolutely! I have PR4's and PR5's on most of my bikes. They are grippy, predictable, have great wet performance, and they last longer than most tires that I've tried.
These tires were a bit short-lived on the Super Cubs because of the narrow cross section (80/90-17). The skinny center stripe took a beating because we ran long straight highways during the Scooter Cannonball Run. We averaged ~3200 miles per rear tire on that trip.
There just isn't much rubber in the middle of these little tires to distribute the load to prevent premature wear. We got down to the cords twice each, but the tires' shoulders still looked new... still had whiskers on the sides! 😉👍 --QM
Great video. Learning things. Thanks for the knowledge!
Two ViceGrip C-clamps and a scrap piece of plywood on the bottom works great for breaking down the beads.
Nice video, teamwork on the road will make that easier for you. You've given me a bunch of ideas for mine while binge watching your videos. Those cannonball runs are insane, I'd almost feel bad for you but I know you enjoy them. I'm a leisure rider extraordinaire, lol. I ordered one of those Chimera side stands instead of tearing the rubbers off, will see how I like it when I get it.
Thanks for the feedback! I haven't used that Chimera side stand, but several of the riders on the 2021 Scooter Cannonball Run had them installed on their bikes... said that the stands worked great for them. I think that the side stand and the Kijima rear rack are the most useful upgrades that I've installed on the Cub. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thanks for that. I found a 2020 with 44 miles on it within 2 hrs of me so jumped on it. They had already installed a stock rack and it looks about useless for my travel needs so that has to go. That Kijima looks much better. 👌
@@QuasiMotard I received the Chimera today, works perfect. I gotta thank you for something else though, "the moving the shifter 1 spline video"! I'm not exactly a new rider, been all over on a Vstrom and for the life of me wondered if it was me with that heel shifter. Hope you're staying cool, warm here in the northeast, gonna ride today anyway.
Just changed the rear tire on my Himalayan. Dish soap makes all the difference. I also have three tire spoons that get under the bead easier. Big difference.
Absolutely... proper tools and soapy water make the job much easier! I was doing this tire change manually with only the minimal tools and equipment that I would be carrying on the Scooter Cannonball Run trip. We knew that we would be changing our tires at least a couple of times during that trip, so this was a central practice.
Does your Himalayan have tube or tubeless tires? How do you like it so far... has it been a reliable machine? Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I have tube tires. At first mine would stall when cold and sometimes at a stop. I changed the plug for the iridium. Not much change. After I replaced the relays it changed it. I've got about 4350 miles and it hasn't stalled at all. This and break in really helped. Great fun videos.
I have gone back through your videos. At some point what looks like an extra gas tank is added on top of the center leg shield. Can you make a video fully going over all the add-ons you have? I searched to find when it showed up on video but not an explanation of what it is. One thing i dislike is the gas mileage at high speeds. I road 60 miles and for fear of running out i stopped to fill up on my way and way back from destination. Also going to search your page to see if you have a recommended tools or gadgets video. I dont have tons of tools and am wanting to get all things i need for maintenance on my super cub, but also for my 1974 honda cb360 that needs repairs. Any help is appreciated
Another informative video but it would have been infinitely better if you had showed the removal of the wheel. Thanks!
Great video, ive been looking at how to do this on bikes.
You need a Harbor Freight motorcycle tire machine!
Agreed! I will probably add one of those to the garage very soon. I wanted to do this tire change as "manually" as possible with the tools that I would have during the Scooter Cannonball Run trip.
This was good practice, and I updated my tool kit with exactly what we'd need on the road. It served us well on that adventure because we changed the rear tires 4 times over that 10K mile journey. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
It would have helped if you diluted some washing up liquid. And poured it around the room. Also those clamping things I forgot what they're called the type you would use to hold two pieces of wood together whilst letting the wood glue dry. To break the bead of the tyre from the rim
Agreed! I was trying to do this change with minimal tools and supplies as practice for the Scooter Cannonball Run. I knew that we would need to change tires at least twice during that trip, so I was only using minimal tools that I would be carrying on my trailer. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
good afternoon, because you have so many videos of c125 and you have access to other motorcycles, can you please share your opinion
Thanks for fun video of changing a tire on your cub! QM
Do you sweat? Hell I'd be wringing wet! LoL
This video was recorded back in March 2021, so the temperatures weren't brutal yet. I'll usually break a sweat if I walk across the room for a beer! 🤣👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Do you have plans to go to the Barber small bore fest in 23? Would like to meet you and shake your hand .
Absolutely, that would be great! The Barber event will be just before I need to hit the road for the 2023 Scooter Cannonball Run. That starts in California on June 18th, so I might leave Birmingham a day early to get back from AL to TX. If I feel particularly adventurous, I might skip the return trip to TX and just ride straight from AL to CA. Obviously, that'll depend on which bike I'm planning to ride on the Cannonball.
I will probably be out doing my normal multi-state motocamping trips later this fall, so maybe we'll cross paths before next year. I'll post notices on my YT community page and probably do a few quick vlog's discussing where and when I'll be out roaming. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Nice but the tire was put on wrongly at first but suddenly changed to the right tyre direction on the wheel. Always notice the arrow on the tires which is pointing towards the driving position on the wheel. Easy to forget and mistaken.. Altogether very informative.
Yes, I noticed that the tire was mounted in reverse shortly after the first portion of video. These Michelin Pilot tires are bi-directional for either front or rear wheel use, and I missed on my first try.
This adventure was an exercise in the most basic, difficult way to change the tire on the road using only basic hand tools.
I was preparing for a 10K-mile cross-country trip on the Super Cub, so I needed to be familiar with the worst-case scenario of changing the tire on the road. Luckily, we had access to more tools and facilities during that trip (e.g., truck stop air compressors for setting the tire bead), so we didn't need to suffer unnecessarily. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Well it was a funny thing.🙂 Today I also installed the Michelin Pilot Street tires and man what a big positive difference. The Super Cub feels more mature with these tires. I love Michelin, they make such perfect tires.
Has anyone noticed that the recommended chain slack on this bike is 1 to 1.4 inches in the owners manual but on the chain protector itself it says 1 to 1 and 1/4. They're not the same.
I'm number 1. Yay
Howdy, Mike! 👏😉👍 --QM
How hard is it to patch a tubeless tire out in the middle of nowhere?
Patching a tubeless tire on the road is usually a simple affair. You just need to remove the nail or whatever punctured the tire (if it's still in the hole), clean the area around the puncture, and then stuff a tire plug in the hole. Reinflate the tire enough to ride the bike to a safe location and then check the patch to see if it's holding.
I typically use CO2 inflators to quickly reinflate the tire, but that doesn't always get the job done. I carry a small bicycle pump with me to finish inflating the tire to correct operating pressure before hitting the road.
If the puncture is really bad (e.g., sidewall puncture or longer tear in the tire carcass), then patching might not be possible. Another occasional issue is when the tire's "bead" unseats from the rim and doesn't want to reset properly... CO2 inflators can help, but that's usually a case where a large air compressor is needed to reset the bead quickly.
In any case, I don't usually continue riding on a patched tire any longer than necessary without doing a proper patch or just replacing the tire. The only secure way to patch a tubeless tire is from the inside with a vulcanized rubber patch, and that requires removing the wheel and tire... that's not a quick roadside fix. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
If you take off the rear brake assembly you don't have to lift the bike to get the rear wheel of (as per manual)
70/90 , 80/90 tires
i want to instal 1 size wider. 80/90 , 90/90 . Is it possible ? If is possible will be safe to improve behavior ?
Yes, I have seen some Super Cub owners install oversized tires on their bikes. If I recall correctly, the front tire can be up to a 90/90-17 without clearance issues. The rear tire can be as wide as 100/90-17 without clearance issues, or up to 100/80-17 if the rear brake torque arm is spaced outward or bent slightly to clear the tire. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
So with the title of this video, how to change the tire the hard way I would like to share how to do it the easy way so this link that I’m putting in here is a link to another CZcams video that talks about the easiest manual motorcycle tire changer that I am aware of And in the video he says what the product is talks about explains it and changes attire for demonstration purposes. I just purchased this piece of equipment and it looks super awesome but I must warn you. It is expensive but I think over long-term it will be worth it because my dealer charges $40 to change the tire on the rim and that’s with it off of the motorcycle. I thought that was a high, but it seems that today that is pretty much what the going rate is. i’m not gonna say that anyone can change a tire if they purchase this piece of equipment for their motorcycle but probably almost anybody could.
czcams.com/video/J8b9OrBBJJA/video.htmlsi=jk2Bw4T3IfHJqhJ7
This video that I have linked is to a CZcams channel called yamy noob I hope this helps somebody
Got a super cub question for you. I hear the weight limit for these bikes is only 235lbs. I’m a little above that. Do you think that would be a deal breaker? I mean I see you guys loading them up with tons of gear and pulling trailers with them. Not to mention in other markets they sell them with a passenger seat. I plan on mainly commuting 11 miles to work and just putting around town on 35 and 45 mph roads with it.
I think you'll be just fine on a Cub up to around 275 pounds. You will probably want to upgrade the rear shocks to some that have stiffer springs to avoid bottoming-out the rear suspension. These little bikes can carry entire families, their goat, and all of their weekly shopping in most of the Asian markets! 🤣👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard I appreciate your response, I’m 5’11” 240. Lost most of my fat during the pandemic so that 235 pound weight limit is right around where I’d be before I’d have to lose muscle mass to lose any more weight. I have a pretty physically demanding job. I work as a surgical technologist. Being a bigger built guy they expect me to do a lot of mule work. Like moving bariatric patients back and forth from hospital beds to the operating room table. I dislocate and reduce hips during hip replacement surgery, lift dozens of instrument trays everyday that can weigh upwards of 50 lbs. So it’s not like I can lose much weight from dieting at this point.
I’ll look into rear shocks. I’m curious how much weight I could save on the bike itself. Was already planning to change the mirrors but I could probably offset a few pounds on the bike by switching to a lithium battery. I ride a Schwinn bicycle with no shocks and even dinkier tires. But obviously the SC itself weighs a lot more than a bicycle.
@@nephilymbass1 I put weight on looking at recipes.
March 6th. Man,how many videos do you have in your to-edit/to-upload list?
Edit:Oh its 2021,i just saw that😅
I have potentially over 200 days of videos that haven't been edited or published. Most of them are boring commute vlogs and old events that wouldn't be pertinent now. I'm just sifting through the queue to see if anything is worthy of editing... not sure if anyone would be interested or not. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard i think the commute vlogs would be outdated by now if its pre-2022. Anything technical related is worth uploading though
I never got my Super Cub. Had to use the funds for other things. ☹️
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully, you'll have the opportunity to snag a Cub in the future. They are fun machines to ride, and they're cheap to own and operate. 😉👍 --QM
Asked for your advice on rear shock upgrade for Super Cub but did not get a reply. Wassup with that ?
I must have missed the question... I'll go back and take a look! --QM
How are you liking that Michelin tire?
These Michelin Pilot Street (and Street 2) tires are fantastic! They offer amazing wet and dry grip, and they wear better than the original IRC HOOP tires.
Unfortunately, we ate through the rear tires very quickly on this trip because it was mostly straight-line highway riding, and we were overloaded.
The Cub's rear tire is only 80mm wide (80/90-17"), so all of the load is concentrated in a narrow strip in the center of the tire. Normal riding conditions (with some occasional corners and less weight) would allow these tires to last longer.
We burned through 3 rear tires each during this trip... averaged only ~3200 miles each. I changed this one at the end of Day 2 because it was showing through to the cords! czcams.com/video/O1KlRldtRQ4/video.html Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard nice, I am so for a new rear tire on my 2022 super cub. Might have to get those a go, thanks
Buy a tub of tyre lube, it will last you years and save you a lot of grief. Alternatively, take the loose wheel to the bike shop, they will fit a tyre for £10.
Agreed! This was a trial run for doing things the hard way on the road. We were preparing for our 10K-mile cross-country trip around the USA, so I was trying to use only the tools and supplies that I knew we would be carrying with us on the trip.
We upgraded a couple of the tire levers in our kit to be more efficient. However, we didn't want any liquids or lubricants that could spill or contaminate our gear in the trailer's storage box. We successfully changed our tires 6 times throughout our 10K-mile trip (3 rear tires on each Cub). Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
just put some grease round of your new tyre pal so easy to you slide in the rim.
Just sat here swearing for you .😅 you did great on your own .i would turn in to the hulk
O my god?
9:53 aluminium :P
Hogwash! You people added an extra letter in there! This isn't Scrabble! 🤣👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard sufferin sucotash (20 years it took to find out what that was) two i's means we can see the right spelling lmao :D