And with that being said, it looks like Arsenal should be absolutely flying once the balance is right with Havertz in or out of the lineup. Arsenal and Liverpool only remaining unbeaten sides in all comps
@@4thGenna.yeah your assessment is fair. Fabio veira may have a moment but each time he plays you play with 10 1/2 men. I don’t rate the guy sorry. He is still 21 though and always can prove me wrong. I wish arsenal the best as a liverpool fan and hopefully we can challenge city. I’ll have nothing but respect if you beat city
when KH's season kicks off and start scoring, everybody would come out and would say "I was wrong about him." GX was a perfect example to turn around and prove everyone wrong, including the pundits here. it is only 6 games with the club. " Generational Moaners" really fit these pundits and some others "fans" here!
GX didn't recover from a bad run for form though or suddenly become a lot more talented; he was always a solid player with something of a hot head who matured and tempered his aggression. Havertz hasn't really shown much of anything since moving to the EPL.
Would you say that you’ve seen improvements in his play. Minus the Carabao cup most of his performances have been bang average. That said I’d love to see him fit in to our system and grow he’s still young. COYG!
Frank answering a different question at the end. The question was whether Arsenal had a better chance of winning the ECL than EPL, not whether you thought Arsenal would win the ECL. And I agree with Craig, they have a better chance of winning a KO tournament than a 38 game league. Doesn't mean I think they'll win the ECL, just that I think they have a better chance to do so than win the EPL.
He was most effective for Arsenal at Chelsea. Every arsenal fan wanted Bissouma and Maddison now look at them. I watched Havertz for 3 years it’s not “confidence” he’s just not made for the PL it’s too physical and fast paced. We had options of Maddison, Lavia, Bissouma, Doku, Neves and Kudus JUST off the top of my head but bought a flop. Arteta killed us with this signing
Sackable offences. Havertz, Vieira, Lokonga, Mari, Tavares, Runarsson, Willian and Cedric to name a few are a €140M+ waste of money. I want Mikel to do well but he’s been here coming up to 4 years, spent close to €700M and we’re starting Eddie up front against spuds… 🤦🏻♂️
Havertz doesn't have the proper mentality to play football, his whole aura always tells u that he'd rather be subbed off so he can go chill with a packet of cheetos on the bench, whoaber pulled him out of Chelsea was just trying to save his career
Arteta resuming the mistakes of Chelsea by playing Havertz as a 9 or false 9 or whatever he’s supposed to be. A role that doesn’t suit his abilities at all and deprives him off his capabilities. That guy needs to play as an offensive 8 or 10. Doesn’t help that his teammates don’t ever pass him the ball whenever he’s making a great run(which is happening like at least 10 times a game).
At the end there of the last question posted to Stevie and Frank, during Frank's time when Stevie said to the Kay "we got there", and Kay responed to Stevie saying "we got there in the end" poor Frank didnt even know Kay and Stevie were cheekily laughing at him for going around the question the first time, by doing a long explanation, then only to answer the question the 2nd time after he made her repeat the question😂
Havertz won't be effective until he learns/develops the ability to operate at speed and rhythm of the game. He's too lacklustre and never seems capable of imposing himself on the field of play.
Havertz isn't that bad most games off tge ball but he seems off the tempo and worryingly devoid of confidence on the ball. He may theoretically have the attributes Arteta wants but he may have got his mentality and fortitude wrong. Lets hope he comes good but he has actually had support in stadium until now if thatvturns he might be in for a rough ride.
He saw what every scout or manager driving by data. Havertz great at getting himself in danger position in the box, he suks at finishing, probably arteta thought he can get the best of him at Arsenal.
What does trent have to do with this? He looks good in an inverted position anyways. Also gomez is playing there and defends better. But doesnt have the playmaking
The hate for Arsenal is real...the seasons just started and city have already lost we are a point behind them. If we ( a big if ) defeat them then we would be 2 points ahead of them
All Chelsea's xG figure tells us is what we can all see clearly with our own eyes, they create more than enough chances but can't finish them. Only Burnley have scored fewer goals than Chelsea this season, and that could change on Tuesday when Burnley play their game in hand against Luton.
Play him as kind of a free flowing #10 behind a striker on the right side. And tell me your results. The only time he was good he played there. For leverkusen as well as under tuchel for chelsea.
@@stefan5730 that is his only good position. If he won’t be utilized in that free flowing #10 ghost striker on the right side higher up the pitch he will like having a man down. He needs to play there in a 3-4-2-1 or a 4-3-2-1. That right sided player with the 2 CAMS. But feeds the striker and cuts in on his left. Thats his best position and only good one. It’s a proven fact and you cannot argue with me about this one
This is what I was thinking. I definitely think Havertz hasn't done enough and even out of position he should play better but he just looks broken and unconfident. Constantly being played out of position being asked to do different things. The decision to play him as number 9 at Chealse was the worst for me. Legit a dude that dribbles through midfield, carrying the ball is now your vital point in the attack to win some aerials. I mean he has the qualities to do that but it's still not his DNA and it shows. I can barely imagine him getting out of this slump unless he gets to a team where he can be the vocal point as a attacking midfielder with the freedom to move the way he wants.
@@JustFootballThoughts yeah just give him freedom and let him do what he wants. He is similar to müller. A player who ghosts as a cam behind a striker who gets freedom anytime. 2 completely different players but I think he should get a similar tole full of freedom high up the pitch. Behind a clear #9, BUT arsenal do not have that. At leverkusen he has a clear #9 ahead of him and at chelsea ik werner was bad, but he linked up well with him in behind
@@stefan5730 i called this before. Odegaard plays as a number 10 so as havertz. but people argued with me. I thought havertz would come in as a depth player for Odegaard, not to mention they have Smith Rowe
Kay is the only good reason to watch this nonsense. Whenever you disagree with Burley , it's "people who know nothing about the game". We see this constantly , former players thinking because they played they know everything. Ultimately they are still just one opinion who sees things a certain way , even if they are completely wrong. The game has changed alot since Burley played 2 decades ago.
on the bench
I knew this answer was coming 😂
I literally clicked on this just to write that
He would be most effective for Arsenal if he were still at Chelsea.
It's impressive that we're unbeaten playing with 10 or 10 and a half players in the starting lineup
And with that being said, it looks like Arsenal should be absolutely flying once the balance is right with Havertz in or out of the lineup. Arsenal and Liverpool only remaining unbeaten sides in all comps
@@4thGenna.yeah your assessment is fair. Fabio veira may have a moment but each time he plays you play with 10 1/2 men. I don’t rate the guy sorry. He is still 21 though and always can prove me wrong. I wish arsenal the best as a liverpool fan and hopefully we can challenge city. I’ll have nothing but respect if you beat city
@@sushipizza4439 thanks bro but I think it's city league 😑
I don't even reckon that it would be Fabio instead of Kai if everyone were fit haha.
@@sushipizza4439 if Arteta get a full squad and pull off the double though, I'd instantly consider him the best coach in football
The most effective and best position for Havertz is the bench.
The best fit for Havertz is a nice warm spot on the bench.
He peaked after scoring that goal in the UCL final with Chelsea
Naaa he peaked when he got the goal against Barcelona in the Florida tin point.
Craig, a “generational moaner” 😂
He’d make a great gunnarsaurus
When is the last time you've seen Havertz play the ball forward? Or travel with the ball? I want him to succeed but then again wanted Pepe to also
I saw. But it was Vieira doing it, many times in a match.
He can best be listed on the transfer window.
He need to be in a championship team in Englands second division
Nonsense
We the Arsenal fans we love and support every player in the squad
More respect for Amrabat, his first start for United was at fullback
when KH's season kicks off and start scoring, everybody would come out and would say "I was wrong about him." GX was a perfect example to turn around and prove everyone wrong, including the pundits here. it is only 6 games with the club. " Generational Moaners" really fit these pundits and some others "fans" here!
GX didn't recover from a bad run for form though or suddenly become a lot more talented; he was always a solid player with something of a hot head who matured and tempered his aggression. Havertz hasn't really shown much of anything since moving to the EPL.
Would you say that you’ve seen improvements in his play. Minus the Carabao cup most of his performances have been bang average. That said I’d love to see him fit in to our system and grow he’s still young. COYG!
Bench
Frank answering a different question at the end. The question was whether Arsenal had a better chance of winning the ECL than EPL, not whether you thought Arsenal would win the ECL. And I agree with Craig, they have a better chance of winning a KO tournament than a 38 game league. Doesn't mean I think they'll win the ECL, just that I think they have a better chance to do so than win the EPL.
What's ECL?
He was most effective for Arsenal at Chelsea. Every arsenal fan wanted Bissouma and Maddison now look at them. I watched Havertz for 3 years it’s not “confidence” he’s just not made for the PL it’s too physical and fast paced. We had options of Maddison, Lavia, Bissouma, Doku, Neves and Kudus JUST off the top of my head but bought a flop. Arteta killed us with this signing
Sackable offences.
Havertz, Vieira, Lokonga, Mari, Tavares, Runarsson, Willian and Cedric to name a few are a €140M+ waste of money.
I want Mikel to do well but he’s been here coming up to 4 years, spent close to €700M and we’re starting Eddie up front against spuds… 🤦🏻♂️
Havertz doesn't have the proper mentality to play football, his whole aura always tells u that he'd rather be subbed off so he can go chill with a packet of cheetos on the bench, whoaber pulled him out of Chelsea was just trying to save his career
Giving massages😂😂😂😂he ain’t wrong
Craig gets mad because he doesn't understand. Bless him.
Put him on the VAR panel
Thanks for the 60m Arsenal.....
Ur not in the best position de say that lol
It's ok, you will need it
Bro, I got a call from Mars and Neptune, they said their planets are free for your squad depth
@@eL--RaLDo yourself a favor. Log off, Asap.
@@recapaman8936 frl
Arteta resuming the mistakes of Chelsea by playing Havertz as a 9 or false 9 or whatever he’s supposed to be. A role that doesn’t suit his abilities at all and deprives him off his capabilities. That guy needs to play as an offensive 8 or 10. Doesn’t help that his teammates don’t ever pass him the ball whenever he’s making a great run(which is happening like at least 10 times a game).
At the end there of the last question posted to Stevie and Frank, during Frank's time when Stevie said to the Kay "we got there", and Kay responed to Stevie saying "we got there in the end" poor Frank didnt even know Kay and Stevie were cheekily laughing at him for going around the question the first time, by doing a long explanation, then only to answer the question the 2nd time after he made her repeat the question😂
Frank is in the theatre of destruction at Old Toilet
Troll 💀
Havertz won't be effective until he learns/develops the ability to operate at speed and rhythm of the game. He's too lacklustre and never seems capable of imposing himself on the field of play.
Well said!
Havertz isn't that bad most games off tge ball but he seems off the tempo and worryingly devoid of confidence on the ball. He may theoretically have the attributes Arteta wants but he may have got his mentality and fortitude wrong. Lets hope he comes good but he has actually had support in stadium until now if thatvturns he might be in for a rough ride.
When you've been banging the pipe all night and then think it's a good idea to post on social media...
on the bench at least, but ideally at a different team
Kai on the bench
Only stat I care about is goal for and goal against at the end of the 90 minutes
The level of disrespect to Havertz is insane. "Giving massages"
Havertz's best position is on his couch at home
00:29 As a gentleman it should not of even been a debate for the lovely Mrs Kay
I cant stop questioning my self about arteta for this signing, what did he see that the rest of the world doesn't,
Once a cone layer always a cone layer
He saw what every scout or manager driving by data.
Havertz great at getting himself in danger position in the box, he suks at finishing, probably arteta thought he can get the best of him at Arsenal.
I worry it’s Willian 2.0
Craig Burley would do a better job than Trent I can't defend Arnold
Arnold can't defend Arnold :D
What does trent have to do with this? He looks good in an inverted position anyways. Also gomez is playing there and defends better. But doesnt have the playmaking
They’ve been asked this question ten dam times already this season
In the treatment room, that way a decent player could take the field in his place
The hate for Arsenal is real...the seasons just started and city have already lost we are a point behind them. If we ( a big if ) defeat them then we would be 2 points ahead of them
He will be most effective after he is sold to Saudi or Turkish side at Christmas.
Arteta can leave with him too
Giving out water to the players
He wants to go back to Germany
Nicol & Burley....Stadler & Waldorf?
Ball boy.
How many pundits know what other pundits know
"on the bench" 😀😀😂😂
All Chelsea's xG figure tells us is what we can all see clearly with our own eyes, they create more than enough chances but can't finish them. Only Burnley have scored fewer goals than Chelsea this season, and that could change on Tuesday when Burnley play their game in hand against Luton.
How can you buy Havertz when Maddison was available.
Play him as kind of a free flowing #10 behind a striker on the right side. And tell me your results. The only time he was good he played there. For leverkusen as well as under tuchel for chelsea.
That's where Odegaard and Saka play
@@stefan5730 that is his only good position. If he won’t be utilized in that free flowing #10 ghost striker on the right side higher up the pitch he will like having a man down. He needs to play there in a 3-4-2-1 or a 4-3-2-1. That right sided player with the 2 CAMS. But feeds the striker and cuts in on his left. Thats his best position and only good one. It’s a proven fact and you cannot argue with me about this one
This is what I was thinking. I definitely think Havertz hasn't done enough and even out of position he should play better but he just looks broken and unconfident.
Constantly being played out of position being asked to do different things. The decision to play him as number 9 at Chealse was the worst for me. Legit a dude that dribbles through midfield, carrying the ball is now your vital point in the attack to win some aerials.
I mean he has the qualities to do that but it's still not his DNA and it shows.
I can barely imagine him getting out of this slump unless he gets to a team where he can be the vocal point as a attacking midfielder with the freedom to move the way he wants.
@@JustFootballThoughts yeah just give him freedom and let him do what he wants. He is similar to müller. A player who ghosts as a cam behind a striker who gets freedom anytime. 2 completely different players but I think he should get a similar tole full of freedom high up the pitch. Behind a clear #9, BUT arsenal do not have that. At leverkusen he has a clear #9 ahead of him and at chelsea ik werner was bad, but he linked up well with him in behind
@@stefan5730 i called this before. Odegaard plays as a number 10 so as havertz. but people argued with me. I thought havertz would come in as a depth player for Odegaard, not to mention they have Smith Rowe
The bench!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂
Transferred in January would be most effective.
The bench...
Stevie
“Giving massages“
The background music is horrendous
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thought I was the only one who noticed
How did they misunderstand the fullback question that they meant inverting into midfield?
Cancelo doesn’t do that
@@Noirlore people havent watched cancelo
The bench
As a valet at the carpark.
On the bench or shown the door.
Kai havertz would be most efficient on the bench😂
Why are we still buying Chelsea’s deadwood is the question . Willian , Luiz , Cech , Havertz all wellmpast their peak when we bought them .
In the locker room he would be more beneficial
on the bench!
On the bench?
On 10 or right side 8.
Havertz was never intended to play football
on another team to get the money back ..what a FLOP
😂😂😂 The comments 😂😂
Best fit for Kai Havertz is the bench. Until he wakes up, he should not be starting games.
Most effective is sitting in a bench.
Best fit ?on the bench.!
Bench maybe
At Chelsea
I honestly don't know what he does best, or what his best position, is or what he even brings to the team...
He nicks 330k pw proving Arteta's clueless for buying him
The bench is his best position .
Playing as a 10. Arsenal don't really play one.
Strange signing from the off that one.
That’s easy the bench
on the bench lol
"As A Trade"
He(havertz) lack confidence and physicallity on pitch. Arteta should leave him on bench for now till he train/build well with d team.
Steve’s bias for Liverpool gets really annoying sometimes….
Left back ...... in the changing room, ok what about right back ...... at home
His best position is when he plays on left side of the bench...😑
Back at Chelsea. That would help Arsenal
Kay looks 😘
The answer are, on the bench. 65M benchwarmer.
Kay is the only good reason to watch this nonsense. Whenever you disagree with Burley , it's "people who know nothing about the game". We see this constantly , former players thinking because they played they know everything. Ultimately they are still just one opinion who sees things a certain way , even if they are completely wrong. The game has changed alot since Burley played 2 decades ago.
I can imagine that Craig would be exactly the guy he complained about if he'd be on the other side of the table. xD
Lighten up guys, this is a great show. Laughter from start to finish.
On the bench..
Best fit for kai havertz at arsenal is on the bench
On the bench.
Full back has changed. Answer it for that. Inverted full back. Would you take that on with less moaning. Craig was just bad as a wing back btw.😢
Havertz most effective for arsenal if he were making the tea for the Chelsea pensioners
Right bench
Best fit for havertz is going back to the bundesliga
free transfer list
Imagine if arteta went for Maddison instead of German limerick
where would maddison play?
@@kukunase1686 left of Rice
Start him as the main striker!
Maybe bench striker
Craig🤣🤣
Frank was drunk and cranky. 😅😅😅
Havertz is pony, next question
Are u going to the Bournemouth game today?
ESR or Viera over Havertz. 0 goals, 0 assist’s so what if he wins aerial duals if he does f#%@ all w the ball 😢😢
I gave up asking for Craig to be sacked 😢
Arteta could not try to bench nketiah and play Havertz nearer to Jesus but on the right