It's time for the clones of the Meshlicious. I've waited years for a case like that and now, just a couple of months after the meshlicious went available, there's already the first clone. And something tells me it won't be the last.
I've used two sfx cases with riser cables, only problem I had was with the meshlicious 3.0 riser. all I had to do was unplug the gpu, and connect to motherboard graphics and change bios PCI-E from gen 4 to 3 and it works fine.... The Silverstone sfx cases have gen 4 riser boards Im not sure why people are so scared of riser cables
Cool SFF case. Looked like a breeze to build in too. The hanger on the side is an awesome addition. Nice quality of life details. Good start for this brand!
20:12: Before weighing the fully-assembled computer, Kyle lifts the case by the handle to check to see if the computer is too heavy for the handle to carry. Good looking case. Great video!
Just got a meshlicious, comes in on Tuesday and can’t wait for my first Sff build! This case looks a bit clunkier but I like the psu mounting location and cutout, but I do not like the MOBO IO being inside rhe case
I was thinking the same. A lot of those little cases love negative pressure. His cpu temperatures were awesome through the entire test so it seems to me that ejecting all the hot air from the video card should be his top priority.
The things is the air is not heated that much by cpu, the cpu is like what, under 100 watt when gaming, the air comes out of the radiator is only somewhat hotter then fresh air, warm for sure, but not hot, but the 3080ti is like 350w+, I have a evga 3080ti ftw3 and it's insanely hot, and it's gonna rise your cpu temperature significantly if your radiator takes in what comes out of the 3080ti
What I like is no riser cable required, almost all SFF cases require a riser cable, and this one does not. That's a huge plus as they fail, not to mention the problem's with pcie 4.0 board/gpu and a pcie 3.0 cable.
You might want to take a look at the new Cooler Master NR200P Max, it comes with a PCIE Gen 4 rissr cable, a higher capacity power supply and a 280 mm AIO with 2 fans.
it looks good, i love the industrial look. it does remind me of an apartment building, though, which is kinda cool if you do like a post-apocalyptic theme to it. it looks simple enough to build it, and having a PSU pre-installed from the factory is a major plus, especially since SFX PSUs aren't super common like ATX PSUs. I think they went well above and beyond for making an easy to build in small form factor PC for new people in the market.
On look at da cpu why you use the thermal paste why not you use the sweet and sour sauce, why you think the chineesey food hotter than the other food when you order delivery because it handle the hot better than the thermal paste and not onry Dat but after building computer for long time you have snack, so you don't go hungry. It's way coorer when it's hotter.
I have the radiator fans set to exhaust (the fans are inside the case). Since I live in the tropics, ambient temperature ranges from 28C to 33C. CPU (I7 13700KF) temperatures ranges from 65C to 80C while gaming and GPU (RTX 3080) ranges from 55C to 65C. I can’t run Cinebench in this setup because the CPU will shoot as high as 100C. But since I’m using it as a gaming rig rather than video rendering, 100 degrees is technically impossible to hit during daily usage. Because of the lack of auxiliary cooling options. I’m considering attaching a USB powered 90mm or 120mm fan externally using a magnetic strip. This should push cooler air and feed the AIO radiator fans inside.
I am not normally a SFF fan, but I got to say I am kinda digging this case! Looks pretty sweet and the handle and headphone hangers build in are a very nice touch!
This video just convinced me to get this case. So easy to build in, has a prebuilt PSU, small footprint, compatible with large radiators and GPU, and a nice minimalist look. The headphones hanger and the case handle are a very nice bonus. I'm getting the white variant.
When things were at their very worst: 2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy. Scientists will say it was a global illusion. Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again. After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way. Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet - will seem to rise from the dead - will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one. One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist. Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent. "Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out" "The time for the schism in the Church is almost here and you must get prepared now" The Book of Truth
Normally with most sff pc cases you want to encourage negative pressure to help the gpu get the cooler air. I think swapping the radiator fans to exhaust would help alot
"Have the radiator fans as intake so the CPU gets fresh, cool air instead of hot GPU air" later... "GPU seems to be runnin a little hot, let's adjust the front panel cover... no, i think we just got a hot GPU runnin in here" That all said, this is definitely a very well designed case, and might be a contender to replace my 5 year old QBX Kaze.
It actually looks very similar to the Darkflash DLH21, which is another SFF mini itx case. This one seems to have more features though plus allows for a longer gpu and larger AIO even though they are relatively the same size. However, the DLH21 comes in more colors and has RGB integrated into it. It's also cheaper.
Wow, first time I catch a video moments after it's published :) Watching it right now. Nice way to package a case. :+ By the way, many thanks from over here in the Netherlands -- your videos are much appreciated!
Along with the handle, now All we need is the headset holder to clip around along with one for mouse and keyboard so you could carry your whole set up at once
This can easily be fully watercooled, I am curious what the temps would be. It would be nice to be able to buy tempered glass panel for those that go full water cool.
I have been waiting to pull the trigger on a ITX case for over a year now. Just pulled the trigger on this case!!! Needed a case that had the IO at the bottom. The plan is to run my cables through my desk. Have a nice cutout under the PC and run them under the desk without seeing them. I cant wait.
I think I would have mounted the fans as exhaust, I think the GPU is so toasty because the heat just isn't really going anywhere. CPU thermals would hurt from it a bit, but we wouldn't know how bad until we try it.
You gonna reduce atleast 5 degree C if you turn the fan to exhaust instead. Intake will only accumulated hot air inside which affected the gpu. Fresh air is irrelevant in aio itx setup since the cpu is cooled enough. Give some space to gpu
I’ve got the 3070 2x version of that MSI card and it too gets hot. I’ve had to undervolt the card in order to maintain a steady temp at about 72°C. The card is also in an open air case.
I wish more brands would make ITX standing cases, I love my Phanteks shift but I wish they could start a trend of making adjustable exhaust vents for different GPU sizes so the heat wont be trapped or recirculated letting cool air can get in easier without the need to put holes everywhere. also they really need to come with Gen 4 risers as a standard now lol.
Cool case. Would have liked to see the radiator fans set to exhaust instead of intake. That alone would probably help the with the GPU temps, and there's plenty of headroom in the CPU temps that it would be good to trade some CPU cooling for more GPU cooling.
I want this! I would cut out the ssd try to have more exhaust for the gpu and then custom length cables to help with the management. Man, this seems like such a fun case with a lot of possibilities.
I have the radiator fans set to exhaust (the fans are inside the case). Since I live in the tropics, ambient temperature ranges from 28C to 33C. CPU (I7 13700KF) temperatures ranges from 65C to 80C while gaming and GPU (RTX 3080) ranges from 55C to 65C. I can’t run Cinebench in this setup because the CPU will shoot as high as 100C. But since I’m using it as a gaming rig rather than video rendering, 100 degrees is technically impossible to hit during daily usage. Because of the lack of auxiliary cooling options. I’m considering attaching a USB powered 90mm or 120mm fan externally using a magnetic strip. This should push cooler air and feed the AIO radiator fans inside.
Yes. I was thinking the same thing. It doesn't seem like the GPU is blowing hot air into the AIO, it looks to me that it will blow it out from the side panel.
Is there a reason the PSU and mobo can't switch places in a redesign? The PSU would be closer to it's pass-through and the AIO would be positioned so the radiator's tubes can be higher than the pump's tubes when the case is standing up.
I'd imagine it's for the rear io. If they switched, the io would be inaccessible inside the case. Or it'd be on top and all your cables would be sticking out the top. Would be unsightly. I'd also think rad tubes down would be better anyway. Air would still be able to accumulate in the rad higher than the pump. And there would be no air in the rad hoses
@@pocketlint82 That's true. I guess the hope is that the case is never turned upside down so that bubbles have no chance of moving out of the rad tubes.
Seems like a great case indeed, the only thing is you need to make take care that no air gets trapped in the pump, turn it on and move the case around a bit so the air if it has not already gets moved out of the pump and end up in the radiator, and you're good to go. And that it fits a big GPU and still seems to do nice is pretty nice. And indeed a great LAN-party build with that handle, not that anyone really ever does those things anymore, do they ? But nice for business, or yeah, just playing with a buddy.
They took a Cougar QBX case and put it on it's end with mesh all around and a handle. With the CPU radiator fans blowing all that exhaust right back into the GPU the temps are expected. Flip the radiator fans and try it that way, I bet temps will be much better. No mesh panel insert is a good move too.
Should have taken the 5 mins to hook up the RGB. Regardless of not being able to "see" most of it. It would still make a nice subtle glow especially in low light situation. Could even use that "fire place" simulating light scheme. Also, should have has some sort of exhaust for that gpu...
They want to improve the cooling invert the layout so all of the heat is going out the top but of course that making the cabling more challenging so give and take like always.
Hey Kyle sorry to say this but your radiator installation is not correct, the highest point for air collection is your AIO water block. You will have to flip it to the other side(the radiator hoses near the PSU) to prevent your pump from making grinding noises and killing the pump off.
Very good-looking case, besides some of the panels appearing to not fit perfectly. Looks like they raised the motherboard I/O up enough where you can fit regular display port cables and not have to use right angle adapters (unlike the Meshlicious.....) Sounds pretty affordable too.
Der8auer also just reviewed it and said that iBuyPower suggests to put them as exhaust for bette rtemps. He tested both ways and had to agree. Even tho the cpu gets like 2 degrees hotter because of the warmer air it deals with, the whole system seems to get more advantage with the exhaust config. Gpu got bit cooler and also the other temps like vmr, etc were a bit cooler. You can check out his video, he did it also in english.
This case is must have for me, before, I looked on NZXT H1, but that riser cable crap puted me away, tnx Kyle, waitin for HYTE to start sellin in Europe
Downward facing exhaust on the GPU. I'd be shocked if it wasn't so hot. Looks like a beautiful case, just not well ventilated for the GPU. CPU rad can exhaust out the top which is why it's so much cooler.
Would love to see more case manufacturers embrace full mesh on all side panels, especially with these smaller form factors where you're looking to get as much airflow as possible.
A few months back I was bored and decided to draw a itx case design mainly layout of components and it was pretty much identical to the layout of this case. The only difference I had with mine was an exhaust fan at the top of the case
I had the MSI 3080 Ventus 3X OC and was weary about the cooling off the card, so honestly not surprised that the Ti variant of the card wouldn't be so different in terms of cooling. I swapped it out when EVGA contacted me about the queue in a heartbeat and sold the MSI card very cheap to a good friend.
I believe when you mount the GPU vertically the thermos get a lot hotter try laying in a case on the side and see if the thermos dropped with the GPU set horizontally.
just switching the fans around would make a huge difference for the gpu. OR swapping to low profile noctuas and to a push pull setup (Exhausting rather than intaking) on the aio.
The truth is that there is only degrees of cold air. So washing lower colder air over a component that is producing a higher cold output will cool the component. I like the air flow set up. Cold is relative to the temp of the items current state.
I think the GPU temp is a combination of the cooler design and the airflow pattern. And the cooler design has as much to do with how large the GPU cooler is relative to the case than just the thermal mass of that cooler plus those fans, ie this affects the resulting airflow pattern. Basically, the GPU cooler is too thin for that case, so the fans are too deep inside the case and too far from the intake out front. Add the positive pressure from the CPU cooler as intake, and it gets easier for it to recycle some of the air coming off the side of the shroud than to pull fresh air in with the positive pressure system just behind it. A thicker card relative to the case, ie a 3slot+ card in here or a 2slot in an NCase v1 to v5, has more of a tendency to pull fresh air in especially if the CPU AIO is set to exhaust. The NR200 and I think the NCase M1 v6 can avoid this with either a thicker graphics card or a 2slot card with fans on the bottom. A thicker card relative to the case will more easily pull in fresh air, while having fans pull in air tends to create a positive pressure right from the intake side of the card that pushes the hot air coming off the sides past the shroud up towards the other side or out the side exhaust holes.
Fyi! Msi has two bios. One is silent oriented (let gpu reach 80c). The other bios is low temp focused. Customer had to flash bios to change this. They got some customer feedback on why this could be changed in software. I have the msi 3090 and changed to the low temp bios.
you did not tell us what the room temps were, which is important info. with ac i assume it was around 18 to 20 c. a good test would be to t=run the pc out side or turn off ac.
"Pretty toasty gpu"
Laptop users be like: "oh thats nothing"
It's the inbuilt keyboard warmer, feature.
mine reaches 94, bcuz capped at that
89C? oh im just playing minecraft with shaders
I have a gtx 750ti running my pc at low quality at 30 FPS mannn
"it's portable doe"
HYTE had me at vertical with no riser cable and reasonably priced. Been wanting a vertical NR200.
I just built a streaming PC in the DarkFlash DLH21 I think it's slightly smaller than this case. I have a nr200 as my primary PC
It's time for the clones of the Meshlicious. I've waited years for a case like that and now, just a couple of months after the meshlicious went available, there's already the first clone. And something tells me it won't be the last.
Agreed. Especially after that whole H1 debacle, not having to worry about a riser cable is nice.
I mean, it kinda is a vertical nr200
I've used two sfx cases with riser cables, only problem I had was with the meshlicious 3.0 riser. all I had to do was unplug the gpu, and connect to motherboard graphics and change bios PCI-E from gen 4 to 3 and it works fine....
The Silverstone sfx cases have gen 4 riser boards
Im not sure why people are so scared of riser cables
Cool SFF case. Looked like a breeze to build in too. The hanger on the side is an awesome addition. Nice quality of life details. Good start for this brand!
20:12: Before weighing the fully-assembled computer, Kyle lifts the case by the handle to check to see if the computer is too heavy for the handle to carry. Good looking case. Great video!
okay?
IBuyPower: Are we copying the meshalicious?
IBuyPower: You bet your damn ass we are.
Just got a meshlicious, comes in on Tuesday and can’t wait for my first Sff build! This case looks a bit clunkier but I like the psu mounting location and cutout, but I do not like the MOBO IO being inside rhe case
Kyle, I wished you flipped those AIO fans around to test the temps with them exhausting air...
I was thinking the same. A lot of those little cases love negative pressure. His cpu temperatures were awesome through the entire test so it seems to me that ejecting all the hot air from the video card should be his top priority.
Yeah, PS, Graphics and AIO are all on intake. It's like he never build a PC before.
The things is the air is not heated that much by cpu, the cpu is like what, under 100 watt when gaming, the air comes out of the radiator is only somewhat hotter then fresh air, warm for sure, but not hot, but the 3080ti is like 350w+, I have a evga 3080ti ftw3 and it's insanely hot, and it's gonna rise your cpu temperature significantly if your radiator takes in what comes out of the 3080ti
Switch the fans on the AIO to exhaust instead of intake, made a significant difference in the Meshlicious case.
Yea he calls the GPU toasty but has the fans oriented wrong. I was about to yell at the screen lol.
Y that tech noob has intake on front, top and backside.
Lyle?
What’s the best fan layout for nr200p I have a 240mm aio
@@brikswrld8320 bottom in top out
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I love that a company notorious for sealed glass boxes of firey death...has pulled their heads out of their asses and added tons of airflow. Good Job!
What I like is no riser cable required, almost all SFF cases require a riser cable, and this one does not. That's a huge plus as they fail, not to mention the problem's with pcie 4.0 board/gpu and a pcie 3.0 cable.
You might want to take a look at the new Cooler Master NR200P Max, it comes with a PCIE Gen 4 rissr cable, a higher capacity power supply and a 280 mm AIO with 2 fans.
Ncase M1 doesn’t. Though I really love this tower style.
Fractal Design Nano S. Supports a full size atx PSU and even custom loops.
Ayo go tigers!
it looks good, i love the industrial look. it does remind me of an apartment building, though, which is kinda cool if you do like a post-apocalyptic theme to it. it looks simple enough to build it, and having a PSU pre-installed from the factory is a major plus, especially since SFX PSUs aren't super common like ATX PSUs. I think they went well above and beyond for making an easy to build in small form factor PC for new people in the market.
I think 'Lyle' needs to make a visit again 'Kyle'. Had to go back and watch a few. Such good stuff! -Lyle
On look at da cpu why you use the thermal paste why not you use the sweet and sour sauce, why you think the chineesey food hotter than the other food when you order delivery because it handle the hot better than the thermal paste and not onry Dat but after building computer for long time you have snack, so you don't go hungry. It's way coorer when it's hotter.
Wifey sauce took Lyle in the divorce....... To soon
@@Riddler290 some girs don't know how to love a man long time only short time.
We miss Lyle so much
try switching the radiator fans to outtakes, im curious to see if it make a cooling differences.
With the amount of mesh, I'd run it in positive pressure. Otherwise, you might as well clean it every week with the amount of dust it'll suck in.
I have the radiator fans set to exhaust (the fans are inside the case). Since I live in the tropics, ambient temperature ranges from 28C to 33C. CPU (I7 13700KF) temperatures ranges from 65C to 80C while gaming and GPU (RTX 3080) ranges from 55C to 65C. I can’t run Cinebench in this setup because the CPU will shoot as high as 100C. But since I’m using it as a gaming rig rather than video rendering, 100 degrees is technically impossible to hit during daily usage.
Because of the lack of auxiliary cooling options. I’m considering attaching a USB powered 90mm or 120mm fan externally using a magnetic strip. This should push cooler air and feed the AIO radiator fans inside.
I think having the fans as exhaust would benefit GPU temps more. Awesome build btw!
I am not normally a SFF fan, but I got to say I am kinda digging this case! Looks pretty sweet and the handle and headphone hangers build in are a very nice touch!
Actually pretty intrigued by this case honestly. Love the aesthetic. The handle and headphone rail are the cherry on top.
I think running the radiator fans as exhaust would help pull fresh air through the GPU.
I agree. I'd love to see if using the AIO fans as exhaust would change the thermals
This video just convinced me to get this case. So easy to build in, has a prebuilt PSU, small footprint, compatible with large radiators and GPU, and a nice minimalist look. The headphones hanger and the case handle are a very nice bonus. I'm getting the white variant.
Kyle: I love applying thermal paste its so SATISFYING
Also Kyle: Thank you, pre-installed thermal paste.
Im glad you’ve been doing better! Last year didn’t seem to be a good year for many of us so im glad this year is going better!
When things were at their very worst:
2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy.
Scientists will say it was a global illusion.
Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again.
After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way.
Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet
- will seem to rise from the dead
- will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one.
One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist.
Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent.
"Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out"
"The time for the schism in the Church is almost here and you must get prepared now"
The Book of Truth
@@michagabo8819 what the actual fuck?
@@michagabo8819 I have no idea what the fuck- you just said
striping a motherboard standoff... didn't inspire me to build another pc lets just say that.. Great video Kyle! case looks good
I've built too many PC's and never stripped one. Make it snug and you're good.
I think the headset holder(s) being built in is a very nice touch, and, in hind sight, seems obvious! :) Good job HYTE
Normally with most sff pc cases you want to encourage negative pressure to help the gpu get the cooler air. I think swapping the radiator fans to exhaust would help alot
Those mesh panels do catch a LOT of dust to be fair. Why couldn't it be magnetic though instead of screw in?
"Have the radiator fans as intake so the CPU gets fresh, cool air instead of hot GPU air"
later...
"GPU seems to be runnin a little hot, let's adjust the front panel cover... no, i think we just got a hot GPU runnin in here"
That all said, this is definitely a very well designed case, and might be a contender to replace my 5 year old QBX Kaze.
I'm willing to bet that it's gonna have like 10 degrees cooler temps if you installed some exhaust fans. Just like the NZXT H1.
Those front panel connectors made me tear out of joy
One thing I’ve learned building SFF is you should always opt for active exhaust
Looks like an excellent competitor to the Meshilicious. I like the size and looks of the SSUPD one better though.
It actually looks very similar to the Darkflash DLH21, which is another SFF mini itx case. This one seems to have more features though plus allows for a longer gpu and larger AIO even though they are relatively the same size. However, the DLH21 comes in more colors and has RGB integrated into it. It's also cheaper.
Wow, first time I catch a video moments after it's published :)
Watching it right now. Nice way to package a case. :+
By the way, many thanks from over here in the Netherlands -- your videos are much appreciated!
Along with the handle, now All we need is the headset holder to clip around along with one for mouse and keyboard so you could carry your whole set up at once
That looks so cool. Very nice job Hyte.
This can easily be fully watercooled, I am curious what the temps would be. It would be nice to be able to buy tempered glass panel for those that go full water cool.
Agreed
I have been waiting to pull the trigger on a ITX case for over a year now. Just pulled the trigger on this case!!! Needed a case that had the IO at the bottom. The plan is to run my cables through my desk. Have a nice cutout under the PC and run them under the desk without seeing them. I cant wait.
3:51 “Can I do this one-handed while filming”
Me: 😳😳🤔
I think I would have mounted the fans as exhaust, I think the GPU is so toasty because the heat just isn't really going anywhere. CPU thermals would hurt from it a bit, but we wouldn't know how bad until we try it.
You gonna reduce atleast 5 degree C if you turn the fan to exhaust instead. Intake will only accumulated hot air inside which affected the gpu. Fresh air is irrelevant in aio itx setup since the cpu is cooled enough. Give some space to gpu
I'd be curious to see how a full custom watercooling loop would work in this case
Really wanted that new G.SKill case that they just released but can't find it anywhere. This one looks like a strong contender for it. Good job HYTE!
Kyle, your gpu might be running with silent bios profile, the fan speed rpm is crazy low with that. You might wanna flash that to performance bios.
Definitely felt like those fans could have ramped up more, always had my gpu fan curve ramping up to 100% by 80c
I’ve got the 3070 2x version of that MSI card and it too gets hot. I’ve had to undervolt the card in order to maintain a steady temp at about 72°C. The card is also in an open air case.
thanks now i know i don't want this one
Great video Kyle! Everyone is so worried about dust but use a data vac, compressor, compressed air and once every 3-6 months you clean it.
Optimum tech must be so happy right now holy
I wish more brands would make ITX standing cases, I love my Phanteks shift but I wish they could start a trend of making adjustable exhaust vents for different GPU sizes so the heat wont be trapped or recirculated letting cool air can get in easier without the need to put holes everywhere. also they really need to come with Gen 4 risers as a standard now lol.
Cool case. Would have liked to see the radiator fans set to exhaust instead of intake. That alone would probably help the with the GPU temps, and there's plenty of headroom in the CPU temps that it would be good to trade some CPU cooling for more GPU cooling.
I love that the cables all route to the bottom. To me, all the cables abd io going to the top is the biggest issue with the evolve shift line.
I love how it says that this video was uploaded a few minutes ago when this video was actually uploaded an hour ago
I want this! I would cut out the ssd try to have more exhaust for the gpu and then custom length cables to help with the management. Man, this seems like such a fun case with a lot of possibilities.
I have the radiator fans set to exhaust (the fans are inside the case). Since I live in the tropics, ambient temperature ranges from 28C to 33C. CPU (I7 13700KF) temperatures ranges from 65C to 80C while gaming and GPU (RTX 3080) ranges from 55C to 65C. I can’t run Cinebench in this setup because the CPU will shoot as high as 100C. But since I’m using it as a gaming rig rather than video rendering, 100 degrees is technically impossible to hit during daily usage.
Because of the lack of auxiliary cooling options. I’m considering attaching a USB powered 90mm or 120mm fan externally using a magnetic strip. This should push cooler air and feed the AIO radiator fans inside.
Put the AIO fans to exhaust and pretty sure the temps will drop. It will pull in more fresh air from outside the case. Worth the try !
Yes. I was thinking the same thing.
It doesn't seem like the GPU is blowing hot air into the AIO, it looks to me that it will blow it out from the side panel.
Is there a reason the PSU and mobo can't switch places in a redesign? The PSU would be closer to it's pass-through and the AIO would be positioned so the radiator's tubes can be higher than the pump's tubes when the case is standing up.
I'd imagine it's for the rear io. If they switched, the io would be inaccessible inside the case. Or it'd be on top and all your cables would be sticking out the top. Would be unsightly. I'd also think rad tubes down would be better anyway. Air would still be able to accumulate in the rad higher than the pump. And there would be no air in the rad hoses
@@pocketlint82 That's true. I guess the hope is that the case is never turned upside down so that bubbles have no chance of moving out of the rad tubes.
Seems like a great case indeed, the only thing is you need to make take care that no air gets trapped in the pump, turn it on and move the case around a bit so the air if it has not already gets moved out of the pump and end up in the radiator, and you're good to go.
And that it fits a big GPU and still seems to do nice is pretty nice.
And indeed a great LAN-party build with that handle, not that anyone really ever does those things anymore, do they ?
But nice for business, or yeah, just playing with a buddy.
Moving any possible air out of the pump would be as simple as running for 10mins on its side with the radiator at the top
They took a Cougar QBX case and put it on it's end with mesh all around and a handle. With the CPU radiator fans blowing all that exhaust right back into the GPU the temps are expected. Flip the radiator fans and try it that way, I bet temps will be much better. No mesh panel insert is a good move too.
I just bought this case. I'd love to know what GPU runs cooler in it so I don't have to buy multiples.
I bought prebuilt pc from Ibuypower in 2015 and never really cleaned it either, but I never had an issue with it ever, worked great
Dang, I'm sure as heck gonna take off all the metal mesh parts on my Cooler Master H500P Mesh & paint them either Gold, or perhaps Copper. 😁
looks pretty good. and the double headset hangers plus the handle is really nice
Im a Fan! Mainly due to the front IO connection having a single plug makes it so much easier
I'm so glad the case buttons (front I/O) are at the bottom!!!
Should have taken the 5 mins to hook up the RGB. Regardless of not being able to "see" most of it. It would still make a nice subtle glow especially in low light situation. Could even use that "fire place" simulating light scheme.
Also, should have has some sort of exhaust for that gpu...
They want to improve the cooling invert the layout so all of the heat is going out the top but of course that making the cabling more challenging so give and take like always.
I literally just bought the meshlicious and built in it and then I see this video and this case looks so much better and easier to build in. 😢
Gotta love all the quality of life stuff packed into that little boi. Nice job
Hey Kyle sorry to say this but your radiator installation is not correct, the highest point for air collection is your AIO water block.
You will have to flip it to the other side(the radiator hoses near the PSU) to prevent your pump from making grinding noises and killing the pump off.
love that hinge for the radiator
Very good-looking case, besides some of the panels appearing to not fit perfectly.
Looks like they raised the motherboard I/O up enough where you can fit regular display port cables and not have to use right angle adapters (unlike the Meshlicious.....)
Sounds pretty affordable too.
If you do a follow up, or another build, maybe try a ryzen build with the stock cooler to see how the temps are.
Basically insta copped after seeing this since this is basically the exact case I've been looking for.....missed first 30p by like 5
I wonder how the gpu temps would be if you reversed the cpu fans.
Der8auer also just reviewed it and said that iBuyPower suggests to put them as exhaust for bette rtemps. He tested both ways and had to agree. Even tho the cpu gets like 2 degrees hotter because of the warmer air it deals with, the whole system seems to get more advantage with the exhaust config. Gpu got bit cooler and also the other temps like vmr, etc were a bit cooler.
You can check out his video, he did it also in english.
@@DarkPlatin I’ll check out the video. Thanks
A custom loop and fluids would definitely add some weight I would imagine
This case is must have for me, before, I looked on NZXT H1, but that riser cable crap puted me away, tnx Kyle, waitin for HYTE to start sellin in Europe
Downward facing exhaust on the GPU. I'd be shocked if it wasn't so hot. Looks like a beautiful case, just not well ventilated for the GPU. CPU rad can exhaust out the top which is why it's so much cooler.
Would love to see more case manufacturers embrace full mesh on all side panels, especially with these smaller form factors where you're looking to get as much airflow as possible.
A few months back I was bored and decided to draw a itx case design mainly layout of components and it was pretty much identical to the layout of this case. The only difference I had with mine was an exhaust fan at the top of the case
I had the MSI 3080 Ventus 3X OC and was weary about the cooling off the card, so honestly not surprised that the Ti variant of the card wouldn't be so different in terms of cooling. I swapped it out when EVGA contacted me about the queue in a heartbeat and sold the MSI card very cheap to a good friend.
Kyle literally just said tig ol biddies. I love it!
DerBauer tested it and if you turn around the AIO coolers as exhaust you get better GPU temps with barely increase CPU increases 👍🏻
First case they've ever made.
"We're gonna name it 3"
saw the white version in derbauer's channel, honestly prefer the white because the silver feels so out of place on the black for some reason
Cool! First the SSUPD Meshlicious and now this. I'm glad that we're getting some quality case choices for SSF builds!
bummer not a worldwide giveaway but still a great vid, its a pleasure watching you build this beauty
Vertical GPU (on its end) can be bad for temps, can supposedly impact the heat pipes operating properly .
12:22 I don't know but somehow I found this scene comedic
Doesn’t look as sleek as my meshilicious but I could be biased. Thanks for building in this! Big fan of ITX content.
Awesome case!! I was worried about the thermals when I first saw it, but performed very well. Nice to see
I believe when you mount the GPU vertically the thermos get a lot hotter try laying in a case on the side and see if the thermos dropped with the GPU set horizontally.
I was waiting for this case, but I wasn't 100% sure it would fit a DTX motherboard, so I passed on it and got the Meshlicious.
The verge proved how hard it is to actually break a pc putting it together lmao.
Kyle: I wonder if we put a cooler running GPU in here…
FTW3 looming in the background
just switching the fans around would make a huge difference for the gpu. OR swapping to low profile noctuas and to a push pull setup (Exhausting rather than intaking) on the aio.
Lyle looking buff... "I'm getting ripped tonight"
*I'm gewweting lipped towight
The truth is that there is only degrees of cold air. So washing lower colder air over a component that is producing a higher cold output will cool the component. I like the air flow set up. Cold is relative to the temp of the items current state.
Love this case now I finally got motivation to start my next build.
Definitely dig that case. I just got a meshlicious, but I'd almost consider switching.
I think the GPU temp is a combination of the cooler design and the airflow pattern. And the cooler design has as much to do with how large the GPU cooler is relative to the case than just the thermal mass of that cooler plus those fans, ie this affects the resulting airflow pattern.
Basically, the GPU cooler is too thin for that case, so the fans are too deep inside the case and too far from the intake out front. Add the positive pressure from the CPU cooler as intake, and it gets easier for it to recycle some of the air coming off the side of the shroud than to pull fresh air in with the positive pressure system just behind it.
A thicker card relative to the case, ie a 3slot+ card in here or a 2slot in an NCase v1 to v5, has more of a tendency to pull fresh air in especially if the CPU AIO is set to exhaust. The NR200 and I think the NCase M1 v6 can avoid this with either a thicker graphics card or a 2slot card with fans on the bottom. A thicker card relative to the case will more easily pull in fresh air, while having fans pull in air tends to create a positive pressure right from the intake side of the card that pushes the hot air coming off the sides past the shroud up towards the other side or out the side exhaust holes.
Nice case modularity.. And also you can manage the cables more neatly.. On that case i wish we could have that one to in manila..🥰🥰
Fyi! Msi has two bios. One is silent oriented (let gpu reach 80c). The other bios is low temp focused. Customer had to flash bios to change this. They got some customer feedback on why this could be changed in software. I have the msi 3090 and changed to the low temp bios.
you did not tell us what the room temps were, which is important info. with ac i assume it was around 18 to 20 c. a good test would be to t=run the pc out side or turn off ac.
I really wish it had a temperd glass upgrade 😪😫😔
You can go into the video card software and make the video card fans work a little harder by increasing the fan curve.
Kyle: its 10 inches deep
Me: thats what she said 🤣