Is It Logical To Believe In A Creator? Pt1
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Hamza is awesome ! No emotional argument .. Just logic and pure reasoning ! May Allah Guide us all !
Shahbazz Ali : agree...aamiiin
ameen
@@AssadKhalif de
These are the only videos where I dont skip a second and listen all the way through. Coffee is ready, hype intensifies 🤯
Joseph Lobos
And you would know this and make this statement because you know him very well and know his agenda??????
Choncord THAT'S RIGHT BABYYY!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Joseph Lobos bring one verse like the Quran
Shabaz Hussain BRING ME A PYRAMID LIKE THE ONE IN GIZA OR A MONA LISA...OR MUSIC LIKE THE ONE MOZART MADE.....WHAT IS YOUR POINT MORON?????
Joseph Lobos
Fantastic argument against Hamza here. Should add some more emojis to prove your point.
“Where’s the good reason?”
“I’ve just spent forty bloody minutes explaining”.
🤪
Be honest Hamza just provided his objective opinion which was not based on providing evidence. Hamza believes that the onus is on the non believers to prove him wrong
Xhayne Just gave ‘objective opinions’ which the definition of that is something that is not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased. How is that not a positive thing?
Secondly, I don’t know if you even watched the entire video but at one point a lying claim was put forward by someone and then Hamza put forward his reasons and the other guy said nothing to back up what he said.
The point is if the claim is that his reasons for belief aren’t logical then they should use reasons to support that or conclude that they are logical after giving him a chance to explain himself and could choose not to believe it for whatever reason but could not say it’s illogical as to say that they would need to support that.
Actually they didn't let him verify each proposition because they were 4 its not easy
The good reason is his ego
Everything he knows that begins to exist requires a cause, and that is his support for the proposition "everything that begins to exist must have a cause."
Let us remain consistent. Nothing that we have ever observed was created in the religious sense, (The law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed), therefore creation did not occur in the religious sense. If you can challenge that proposition, you destroy the reasoning to support the first one.
brothers we should support brother hamza by donating
subhanallah when you listen to Hamza you see what rationality is...Islam is the truth. He hasn't made one fallacy, a fictitious statement, or red herrings. He has been consistent and logical. I've never seen Islam broken down in such a manner, it shocks me seeing people not being able to understand basic principles and arguments. Being so eager to attack it that they miss the point because they were too busy finding a way to win a mini argument, instead of listening and learning.
worfoz no only the ignorant who can't follow simple logic struggle to see what is evident. Like the Qur'an says for people like you and the people like these men. "Deaf dumb and blind" or "They follow nothing but conjecture" that describes you perfectly. May Allah guide you for he is the only one who can.
worfoz "nobody believes this hamza" thats a self refuting claim since theres 100s of comments that approve this logic, and there was a atheist called Sebastian that is very close to Islam and couldnt argue with Hamza's logic since it made perfect sense. Get off this video and actually learn a thing or two about islam from actual scholars and trusted sources.
Quite the opposite. He makes a number of fallacies. When he can't back up his arguments, he calls people trolls and dismisses them.
Bookertg name one and demonstrate where and how it applies.
Special pleading. When he says that whatever caused the universe must be uncaused.
Four men in delusion against one man with evidences.
worfoz LOL ON YOU 😂😂😂😂😂
worfoz Did you even watch the video?
worfoz can science proof God?
John carey please remind me which evidence did Hamza provide? Hamza says he is dealing in objectivity, how is that evidence?
worfoz Nope, thats an opinion and also a belief, not factual so erm nah not true
Love your work brother Humza!
Haha cant belive youre here :D Do video about wich fighters you belive going to be future Champions ...
21:37 Hamza said he is writing a book. i cant wait!!
I am going to purchase it
Me too In sha Allah!
Same
Can't wait.
This is one of the best of hamza period
thats not up to hamza if they join islam or not, but to Good, and the whilling of these men to join it... u off point mate :)
Bang on
I've learnt a lot form this video & it will help me doing dawah in future Insha Allah.
Eagerly waiting for Part 2
May Allah Bless Br. Hamza & all of you 💚
Sk Asif Ali you need to learn the English language lol
Sk Asif Ali.
I guess your english maybe far better than khxled B's bengali.
Looool.
Keep going akh your doing very well asif.
Lets mske guidence du'a for thosecstill searching¿
john carey yo bro relax I’m messing with him 😂😂
Khxled B Stop waisting your time. Go home have a life 😂😂😂
The Thinker Stop uttering Hot Garbage plz😂😂😂
Jockers Everywhere 😂
Hamza is one of my favourite speakers, so clear and logical, may Allah increase you in knowledge and imaan brother.
Another awesome discussion. Thanks mate
Another rational debate by Hamza. MashAllah
ive listened to more 1 hour long Hamza videos then any long youtube video ever.
LeeMajor me 2
SubhaanAllah .May Allah swt forgive us and guide us to the straight path.Ameen😌🌷🌸💐
straight path? Boom! boom! HAHAHAHAHA,
Sunil Rampersad belive he is blow the rock
I wish i could see all the English native muslims at speakers corner with u just to give us some hope.
Alhumdulilah, excellent Video, Can't wait for pt 2.
Hamza explains till it clears as it can get
hamza talking to 4 guys at the same time.. LION
Radic LoZou , what was the debate about 🤔
A 45 yr old schooling his elder sceptics of an uncaused omnipetent might using logic.Reason,logic,consistency and sincerity from a knowledgable rational human being who happens to be a muslim.:)
john carey skeptics*
Islam teaches that this life is a test, constant strive and struggle, no shame in learning the correct truth=real Islam from whoever.
Goes to show age isn't a factor in wisdom.
Masha Allah my dear brother Hamza may Allah's blessings be upon you and your family Ameen! Subhan Allah you are so knowelegable in spreading the message of Allah.
Best perfom of Bro Hamza ever.. 👍👍
Radic LoZou
Even our prophet peace be upon him didn't convince his uncle to join Islam.
God almighty says: (28:56) (((O Prophet, you cannot give guidance to whom you please, but Allah gives guidance to whom He pleases, and He best knows those who would accept guidance. )))
Hamza is lit
You lost my like cos u said lit, cos it was about hamza tho u didn't get a dislike lol
worfoz sorry what? U lost me
Luke Coring - I don't see what's wrong with the term lit
worfoz - He seems quite calm and collected for a "narcissistic hysterical psycho"...
Ironic. Find something better to do with your free time, troll.
Should I sleep now? It is 4:08 Am, Alaska I just woke up to drink some water. Should I watch or go back to sleep? Oh let me listen the first 3min 👂 I’m sure done after that
SubhanAllah Muslims in Alaska? I didn't think there would be much of a Muslim community there
its almost time for shubuh prayer mate
shubuh prayer?
Zark morning prayer
I pick up my dad to work 5:00 am and that’s when I pray, but prayer time for this week is 4:00 last week it was 4:30.
I admire my brother hamza so much for he's patience.The All Mighty has really given my brother with the gift of eloquence.
Mash'Allah Tabark'Allah brilliant discussion!!! Can't wait for part 2
Shocking to see people who look intelligent sound intelligent and seem they use common sense logic rationality and good reasoning in everyday life choice but when it comes to God all thse skills and qualities go out the window and never used to come to a fair and reasonable conclusion.
Masha Allah hamza as always:)
Missing subbor ahmed( atheist slayer )
Abdul Samad I miss him too.
Br.Hamza schooling 4 guys at once mashallah.
To school someone would insinuate that pupils are learning from a teacher. The discussion just showed Hamza as not willing to provide evidence to back up his beliefs. Hamza stated that it was his objective belief which does not really require him having to prove it.
Xhayne
Listen from the beginning again.
You are confusing objective and subjective.
look up the terms.
He did state at the beginning that if there is no evidence then dismantle the reasons for that belief.
If the reasons are illogical then the belief collapses.
hamza zulfi , nice to see sombody was paying attention :)
Jazakallah brother for your hard work.
May your intentions remain good and pure. Ameen.
Hamza Zulfi Hamza stated that to him a belief requires good reason to be true without proof. The debaters were simply not convinced by his 'GOOD REASONS' thats all they were saying.
Great, waiting for the 2nd part
May Allah swt reward EFDawah Team Excellent Job MashaAllah
Really enjoyed this conversation. A good chat with mature adults that listen to one another, without over talking of each other. Jesus Loves all of Us.
Hamza is a unstoppable train. Keep it going!!
Allahu Akbar is the ultimate absolute objective truth. It is the simplest explanation our minds can arrive at since it requires no further explanation.
May Allah bless you brother Hamzah, Ma Syaa Allah. May Allah guides all in this discussion to be a Muslim.
Come on Tony say something so that Hamza starts thinking cause all I see see from you is yeah , ok,....so some other chap jumps in to talk to him. This is morning breakfast facts by Hamza and a basic warm up . MashAllah keep up the good work.
Relax it was just a playful discussion, you can clearly see that none of the debaters where there to insult Hamza or Islam.
exactly my words but we can clearly see who fails to answer .
Hamza failed he did not convince the 4 debaters with his objective opinion
Xhayne again your deviating from subject , as a viewer what do people see who answered more questions and why does he need to debate 4 at a time because there is clearly lack of knowledge plus get a non confusing statement and he was not there to convience them it's on you tube for a reason he wants to show something and that is.......ofcourse your involved with denial as well May Allah guide you with knowledge and wisdom to absorb what is wrong .
Wasif Arshad You said Hamza is not there to convince the debaters, so why is he there? why has he got a film crew there with him?, is it to feed his ego?. Is what he is doing one of the five pillars of islam? The debaters were just talking not trying to score points, its not their fault Hamza came with a film crew to film and promote, whatever on earth he is promoting! and get muslim subscribers to insult the non muslims
Brother Hamza is awesome, the infinite regression via the bottle reference example was great. Learn some thing new today, thank you.
And may Allah ﷻ guide these people, inshallah.
Hamza still didnt convince the 4 visitors
Xhayne and there is nothing wrong with that. Allah ﷻ guides whom He wills.
ما شاء الله اخي حمزة، جزاك الله خيرا
I love seeing hamza's smile when he knows his explanation was banging👌🏾
Masha Allah.. May Allah bless you brother Hamza
MashaAllah Bro Darren.
absolutely logical.
Absolutely logical! Really?
I really enjoy watching Hamza smiling and laughing. Very positive.
So far, brother Hamza you have done very we manner and logic.
lovely....i love listen to you bro Hamza
Dear brothers and sisters, Indonesian translation for this video is already available on this link below.
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Selamat menonton dan belajar dari diskusi tersebut.
Hamza is using such logical evidence to proof his beliefs. Such brilliance! May Allah guide these people and everyone looking for the truth.
mashallah its all i can say
masha'a Allah well educated so many skills. I love you bro❤
Uncle Hamza/Darren has this argument on lockdown. Very hard to disagree with his logic. You have indeed sparked the interest of the British public. I hope you keep giving the message to the youngsters especially.
Radic LoZou he did a good job of making himself clear and gave good sound reasons, it's their choice if they wanna accept it or not. Uncle Hamza's is not forcing anything, he's making a point. He's making them understand a principle. We don't know their whole view yet. Still waiting for the rest of the conversation.
Radic LoZou you don’t have to go around forcing Islam down ppls throats every 5 seconds. You start slow, it’s still Dawah. May Allah guide them.
Bro Hamza keeps it simple and straight to the point that you will always understand it
Best speaker on Islam in the park with bro Mansur and bro Hashim as well
Peace family
Really great job Hamza 👍
Ma sha ALLAH brother makes it so easy to understand, these guys just don't want to accept the truth.
One of my favorite videos
جزاكم الله خير
Upload part 2 alreadyyyyyyyyyyy cant wait
Brother hamza I love the way you shutdown the ignorant minds
This is going to be good
I would love to have the book you currently writing on this. I like 💜
Well done Humza! 😊
mA barakAllahu feek brother Hamza
ماشاء الله حمزة مع العلم اني مسلمة ومقصرة في حق ديني انت وكلامك فتحت امامي باب جديد خليتني أحس لا اعرف شيء عن ديني فالدين ليس صلاة ووو وبس معرفة وعلم ووووو اشياء كبيرة عندي سؤال
- هل دراسة الفقه والدين وحكايات الرسل والأنبياء والبحث في الاحاديث النبوية الشريفة يعتبر طلبا للعلم ؟
Islam is the only way انشاء الله انا اصلا اشتريت كتب عن قصص الانبياء والتفاصيل على الصلاة وكل هاذي والزكاة يعني اولا افهم اركان دين تاعي من بعد اطلع على اكثر واكثر وجزاك الله خيرا سوف ارى الفيديو
ISLAM اريد علم الدين انت جزائري طبعا واضح وانا مجبتش الباك وقاعدة في الدار يعني معندي حتى طريقة باه نزيد نعاود وزيد رايحة للحياة الزوجية عما قريب بصح مانيش حابة الحياة الزوجية تحكمني على معرفة الدين ودراسته بكل جدية اريد دراسة علم في الدين وكل ما يخص صغير وكبير هل يعتبر ذلك طلبا للعلم ام مجرد إطلاع على امور الدين
Boo Cookie Dz wish there was translation lol
Liam Fam it's about study fiqh in Islam that's all bro ☺
Boo Cookie Dz
mada takoilin adeen laisa salat wawa...
Allah Subhanahu wataala amarana besalat wa rasulu Allah kadalika
al Quran fiihi mina alwa3iid liman taaraka aslat kama fiihi mina albuchara
liman kaana yusali .
ex- and Quran there is a lot of verses ...................
quran 2v110 -2v177 -2v277-2v203 -2v238
2v110وَأَقيمُوا الصَّلاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكاةَ ۚ وَما تُقَدِّموا لِأَنفُسِكُم مِن خَيرٍ تَجِدوهُ عِندَ اللَّهِ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ بِما تَعمَلونَ بَصيرٌ
And maintain the prayer and give the zakāt. Any good that you send ahead for your souls, you shall find it with Allah. Indeed Allah sees best what you do.
2v177-۞ لَيسَ البِرَّ أَن تُوَلّوا وُجوهَكُم قِبَلَ المَشرِقِ وَالمَغرِبِ وَلٰكِنَّ البِرَّ مَن آمَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَاليَومِ الآخِرِ وَالمَلائِكَةِ وَالكِتابِ وَالنَّبِيّينَ وَآتَى المالَ عَلىٰ حُبِّهِ ذَوِي القُربىٰ وَاليَتامىٰ وَالمَساكينَ وَابنَ السَّبيلِ وَالسّائِلينَ وَفِي الرِّقابِ وَأَقامَ الصَّلاةَ وَآتَى الزَّكاةَ وَالموفونَ بِعَهدِهِم إِذا عاهَدوا ۖ وَالصّابِرينَ فِي البَأساءِ وَالضَّرّاءِ وَحينَ البَأسِ ۗ أُولٰئِكَ الَّذينَ صَدَقوا ۖ وَأُولٰئِكَ هُمُ المُتَّقونَ
Piety is not to turn your faces to the east or the west; rather, piety is [personified by] those who have faith in Allah and the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets, and who give their wealth, for the love of Him,1 to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveller and the beggar, and for [the freeing of] the slaves, and maintain the prayer and give the zakāt, and those who fulfill their covenants, when they pledge themselves, and those who are patient in stress and distress,2 and in the heat of battle. They are the ones who are true [to their covenant], and it is they who are the Godwary.
quran 30v31
۞ مُنيبينَ إِلَيهِ وَاتَّقوهُ وَأَقيمُوا الصَّلاةَ وَلا تَكونوا مِنَ المُشرِكينَ
-turning to Him in penitence, and be wary of Him, and maintain the prayer, and do not be among the polytheists
quran 74v39-43
39
إِلّا أَصحابَ اليَمينِ
except the People of the Right Hand.
40
في جَنّاتٍ يَتَساءَلونَ
[They will be] in gardens, questioning
41
عَنِ المُجرِمينَ
concerning the guilty:
42
ما سَلَكَكُم في سَقَرَ
‘What drew you into Hell?’
43
قالوا لَم نَكُ مِنَ المُصَلّينَ
They will answer,
‘We were not among those who prayed.1
Intelligent and logical arguments from Humza, masha'Allah.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
اخواني اتمنى وضع الترجمة باللغة العربية .
جزاكم الله خيراً
Hamza u r the good reason why islam still standing now May Allah bless you ❤
Haris Shahmi authubillah what Are you on? Only Allah guides People.
great discussion, I'm glad that they are willing to hear the explanations.
maybe they can't accept it but some other atheist will get benefit from this.
worfoz i understand that idiot like you laugh at anything.
worfoz
In the absence of a logical repost, ATHEISTS find it easier to resort to insults.
Part 2 please!
I like the ending… "the burden of proof is upon you"
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Someone please tell what’s the right TIME to go Speakers corner on a Sunday !! Il be coming from north so need to plan it correctly lol
I am LOVING this.
Lol the guy in the green jacket is in fact a troll.Even from his previous conversation with hamzah its obvious.He's not interested in listening at all.Btw amazing video as always brother.Keep up the great work.👍🏻
Watching them dance all around the truth is on one hand entertaining but then I feel a deep sense of sorrow for them. So many will perish in this life and never once did you give thanks. May Allah(swt) protect us from dead hearts and strengthen our Iman and lift doubt from our hearts Ameen.
These fellas were very polite and respectful, it was a pleasure watching this exchange.
worfoz Arab Christains call God Allah in Arabic. Claim destoryed. Keep researching. You've barely scratched the surface.
An excellent discussion by quite some knowledgeable people.
Love all hamzas debates and btw is that Sir Alex Ferguson lol 😂
Hamza is amazing very rational I understood every word you said makes so much sense.
28:35 this man is struggling to explain his good reason to believe
Good job brother Hamza
lol ... it looks like they have exchanged their sides
both started to support other's argument lol
May allah bless hamzah
Where is part 2 jazakum Allahu khairan.
There is a kind of people who just know to deny.... 👍🏻👀👍🏻
Any news on when you're book will be released? you mentioned around 21:20 Would love to get a copy
well done bro hamzah
MashaAllah you have great sabr
Brother Hamza, if i might add. I said this based on my experience and empirical observations upon other people. A belief system in a person's mind is a vital point to them and this belief is either linked or not linked to their own logic, this vital point is stored on their brain because they chose to, so whenever some new infallible information come to destroy and mess with their vital point and their logic and then the cycle of psychology takes part in order to defend their vital point :
1. Escapist ( They tend to quickly ignore the new information and trying to find made up justification in order to stand their vital point )
2. Denial ( They do store this Information as infallible information, yet they chose to dismiss it)
3. Conformist ( They try to compare this new information and their Vital point, if the new one is indeed infallible, they will accepted it but they will still find a way to find its rabbit hole ) but, again their response is based on what they like.
4. Acceptance ( Quickly after they realise the new information is infallible, they replace their old vital point with the new one )
5. Ignorance ( They don't care because they don't have any information regarding the matters and decide to refuse any new information based on their own judgement )
So, may be you'll need to improve your structure in order for them to be fair and play honest. Do not bludgeon their logic and vital point harshly, it will be hard for people who doesn't have a neat mind structure like you..
Anyway i love your mind, its beautiful.
May Allah Increase Brother Hamza Knowledge.
All the best to all Dawah people
:)
"Advancing with Islam"
Where is pt2? Im waiting.
😁😁😁😁
Can someone help me, how to answare quark happen as randomness? I spoke with atheis. Can any body give me reference about this? Or any other suggestmen to convince him?
jazakallahu khairan
Assalaam wa alaykum EFDawah, a lot of us have our post notifications on this channel 'on'. However many of us are not getting notified! Any idea why?
samething happened to me with SC dawah channel, I unsubscribed then subscribed and made sure the 'bell' icon was pressed. these days youtube messed up the notification system bigly.
Those 2 men have a lot of respect, I like that, people should learn from them in that sense.
That man raised a good point and I thought about it. A fifth variable could be that Muhammad (saw) genuinely believed that he received revelations from God via Gabriel but there could be no evidence to discredit that. So then we would have to look up reasons why he would believe that. The reason would be because Gabriel approached him, claiming he was from almighty God and told him he was a messenger and gave him a revelation.
Now, despite there being no evidence to suggest that this claim is false, it goes back to him either telling the truth, lying, being deceived or being crazy. If there is no evidence to say he claim is false, and you think his claim WAS false, then you need to look at whether he was lying and why, whether he was crazy and why or whether he was deceived and why.
So that option just leads back to the four main options...
worfoz OK so why do you believe that he lied then?
I agree that there is no evidence so one must look at reasons why Muhammad may or may not have been telling the truth.
1. If he was lying then one must ask themselves - why? According to research, Muhammad (saw) was known, even to his enemies, as The Trustworthy. There is even a Hadith, which I unfortunately cannot find, where it says that Muhammad asked some of his opponents what they would do if he told them that an army was coming to invade their homes. They quickly responded that they would arms themselves and get ready for battle. He then said "if you'd believe me about that then why don't you believe me about this?"
Secondly, he was married to a wealthy woman, Khadija and his uncle was part of one of the major tribes in Mecca around this time. When he started preached, he lost everything and I mean EVERYTHING. He was humiliated, assaulted, his family was boycotted and he, along with the few other Muslims, were driven out of their own town. Why would someone who had a decent life lie and continue lying despite losing everything and suffering persecution. His enemies even offered him whatever he wanted and he refused, basically saying they could offer him anything and he would never give up this cause.
2. If he was deceived by a demon or Satan himself then that itself cannot make any sense. Why? Because the Quran is FILLED with warnings against Satan. Satan is called an open enemy to the people. We are constantly warned against Satan and the Quran speaks badly of Satan. If it was Satan, or a demon, in disguise as the angel Gabriel then why would it speak badly of itself? Demons work for Satan so if it was a demon then why would it speak badly and warn against the very entity that it is working for? If it was Satan himself, and according to Islam and possibly other religions, Satan's main goal is to misguide Man from God (Allah) then why would Satan warn man against himself and tell man to constantly turn to the very being that it trying to take us away from? So it couldn't have been a demon or Satan himself.
3. Muhammad had some sort of psychological problem, such as Schizophrenia, which made him see things which are not there. This cannot be true either as there are numerous Islamic scholars, both Muslim AND non-Muslim (such as Karen Arnstrong and W. Montgomery Watt) have spend decades studying Islam and Muhammad and they have never come across any historical information to suggest that Muhammad was mentally ill and they have never claimed as such. If people who don't even belong to the religion, and have studied the man for their entire careers, have not suggested this or have not found any piece of information to state this, then this cannot be true either.
4. He was telling the truth - it really DID happen.
May Allah guid the old guy in white shirt he is always present in discussions 🙏
Because conscious humans create the universe must be created by a conscious being as well ? Why doesn't it look like that though?
P.2 please!
Feel your pain bro....trolling to the max...frustrating when people just respond with nonsense instead of acknowledging common sense and truth/honesty
Hamza May Allah reward you... what a true lion...
How would it be possible to get in contact with brother Abbas?
May Allah increase brother hamza knoladge.
Facts!!!!! Thank you 🙏
The title of video shows pt 1
If it means part 2 then where is pt2 i couldn't find it
Emperor Shao Khan thank you brother
i watched it, ,,well done by Abbas
@1:30 Video Started
@4:20 What is believe?
@6:23 Interruption
@10:19 Silence
@12:00 Give me the next episode
@16:19 Absolute Truth and Moon Landing
@19:09 What`s Delusion ?
@21:22 Lolzzz
@22:04 You can`t believe in evil if you are an atheist
@26:05 He said YES
@29:00 Give me a good reason
@32:46 The reason of the root of unhappiness has got nothing to do with God
@36:40 From 3 vs 1 to 4 vs 1
@38:30 Your mother cheated on your father (I`m not saying it)
@43:50 You are trolling now
@45:05 Continue to Part 2
big up hamza
Hamza Rocks Everyone is Shocked Br. Hamza May Allah swt increase you in knowledge and wisdom and accept your service to Islam. Ameen-
Well, it is logical to believe in a creator, very logical. But even self, the fact is that we can't prove it as Hamza correctly and honestly indicated. But belief may be enough.
I love the way Hamza uses logic to explain to the detail, using simple examples as well. Easy to understand and follow.
Well done Hamza.