How Matt Mercer Handles Resurrection Magic - Vox Machina, Ep. 44 | Critical Role Demystified

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
  • How did one bad roll completely change the Vox Machina campaign?
    CW: Death of a character, real-life death of a parent
    Chapters:
    00:00 - Lesson: Say Your NPC Names Out Loud
    02:57 - Lesson: Your Fun is Not Wrong
    07:30 - Lesson: Using Reverse-Metagaming to Troll Your Friends
    13:04 - Lesson: Explaining Trap Technology to Better Narrate Disarming Them
    14:14 - Lesson: Using the Boss Monster to Prompt Player Movement
    19:23 - Lesson: The Party’s First On-Stream Resurrection Ritual
    35:30 - Why This Death Mattered So Much in the Moment
    36:58 - Outro
    You can watch the full episode here:
    Episode 44 - The Sunken Tomb
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    Resurrection Scene: 4:23:13 - 4:33:14
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Komentáře • 261

  • @SupergeekMike
    @SupergeekMike  Před 7 měsíci +78

    What’s the worst NPC name you’ve heard (or delivered) in your own campaigns?

    • @mustang1888
      @mustang1888 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Casey, Stacey, Lacey and Bob. Adventure guild people we met one day, named by the DM's 9 yo daughter :D

    • @themindwright9021
      @themindwright9021 Před 7 měsíci +13

      Not an NPC, but a faction called the Dark Hunt that sounded very bad when said by a slow talking NPC.

    • @beth5627
      @beth5627 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I played a goblin with a big family (of course) in a Oneshot and named all of her silblings something similar to her, with one of them being named "Salad". One campaign session and one oneshot later, my DM took it to the next level, so two of the cousins of my character are called "Vinegar" and "Ligma" (the last came from the fact that my character had a similar sounding name)

    • @koconnell968
      @koconnell968 Před 7 měsíci +11

      We had an NPC named Merla Bottomtop (a halfling woman iirc). Our DM thought it would be a cute little name, but we couldn't stop cracking up.

    • @TheLordofMetroids
      @TheLordofMetroids Před 7 měsíci +6

      I had a bbeg Pirate known as the Dread Scourge. Wore all black armor like Darth Vader.
      I don't even remember his name. But my players heard Dread and Pirate, So naturally he was the Dread Pirate Roberts.
      Princess Bride is one of my favorite movies, so I don't know how I dropped the ball so hard on that one.

  • @spongemanhere
    @spongemanhere Před 7 měsíci +542

    purvan walked so mike hunt could run

    • @poe_slaw
      @poe_slaw Před 7 měsíci +27

      still want to know what he was trying to say that came out as “mikehunt”

    • @LeRodz
      @LeRodz Před 7 měsíci +11

      Just call him Mick!

    • @neceon4586
      @neceon4586 Před 7 měsíci +18

      ​@@poe_slawI think the name was supposed to be Michaens or smth
      Wait nvm his name is David

    • @madtheline2510
      @madtheline2510 Před 7 měsíci +8

      ​@@poe_slawmaybe something like Mikant?

    • @PyrotechNick77
      @PyrotechNick77 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@madtheline2510yeah Mikant or Miganz

  • @nickbrown638
    @nickbrown638 Před 7 měsíci +379

    Brennan bringing back Purvon was incredible

    • @LostFoundling
      @LostFoundling Před 7 měsíci +30

      Thinking back to the timing of Calamity and the ascenance of the Raven Queen, I wonder if Purvan was her first champion

    • @TheLordofMetroids
      @TheLordofMetroids Před 7 měsíci +47

      It'S nOrMaL wHeRe I cOmE fRoM!!
      Loved that in Calamity

    • @JoeGrzzly
      @JoeGrzzly Před 7 měsíci +25

      @@LostFoundling Oh almost certainly. Heavy EXU Calamity Spoiler Warning here:
      Marisha's character, Patia Por'co, confirmed that she had met the Raven Queen as a child and that she was forgotten during Patia's lifetime. So it's totally reasonable that a Goddess would get her first champion during her first 100-200 years of godding, which is when Purvan is introduced.
      And when you consider that Patia's Grandfather, Imyr, was the archwizard who founded Avalir (i.e. made a city fly) and wiped Patia's memories of her parents, it's entirely possible that the powerful magic user who first harnessed the Apogee Solstice to ascend to divinity was Imyr's daughter/Patia's mother. Marisha joked about and denied it, but neither her nor her character are really in the position to say one way or the other. Only Matt and Brennan know the truth.

    • @TamTroll
      @TamTroll Před 7 měsíci +9

      the NPC who gloated towards Purvon about how "You needed a goddess for power, but OUR champion gained the same kind of power all on his own without any kind of patron!" like, three different times back to back was SUPER cringe though. Which is good, pretty sure that was the desired effect.

    • @coldpizza2402
      @coldpizza2402 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@JoeGrzzly I've watched the EXU:C series twice now and I must have totally missed that. I thought it was implied Imyr wiped Patia's memories of her parents because they were "failures" in his eyes, because they failed to achieve the successes expected of a Por'co

  • @seaborgium919
    @seaborgium919 Před 7 měsíci +103

    I still think it's very funny that when she rolled the 1 everyone was like "lol instant death. Death! Instant death!" and then it happened and everyone's faces dropped

  • @johnallegood4469
    @johnallegood4469 Před 7 měsíci +112

    "Does that bring you below zero?" is an insanely scary question to hear

  • @koconnell968
    @koconnell968 Před 7 měsíci +346

    My harengon rogue recently died in our campaign. I designed her to have a heavy theme of being lucky a la lucky rabbit feet, her whole family imbued with almost supernatural luck, so she has the Lucky feat.
    Long story short, the BBEG, the Mad Mage, caught her alone at the end of a long day when she went back to our ship by herself to sleep while everyone else went to the tavern to drink and party. The Mad Mage killed her to keep her from warning the rest of the party about what he was doing on our ship. It was one bad roll on my part to save against hold person after the Mad Mage had started a fire onboard with a fireball spell (easily avoided with Evasion). Got burned alive basically.
    Resurrection ritual failed. DM was describing my character wandering through the forests near her home, coming upon her childhood house, where the Raven Queen awaited her. She told her it was time to go, etc etc. My character asked if there was no way to go back, since she felt she needed to warn the others at minimum. The Raven Queen asked what I would offer in return for the chance to go back.
    Not expecting anything I offered would be enough, I felt I had to rp and try anyway. I gave some offers that didn't seem to interest her. Then, it hit me. I offered my luck.
    The whole table went so silent in shock since it was such a big thing for my character, even our DM. The Raven Queen took my luck and used it to reroll the resurrection and rolled a nat20, bringing me back to life very poetically. I can never take the Lucky feat again, and my magic item (good luckstone) got drained of power. It's been great for RP since.
    Afterward, our DM told me there was nothing I could have offered that the Raven Queen would have been interested in... until I offered my luck. He loved the idea and what a sacrifice it was.

    • @koconnell968
      @koconnell968 Před 7 měsíci +40

      We also had had an ongoing thing where my character was disguising herself as a follower of the Raven Queen (full body coverage, a veil, etc) since the Myriad was after her and it was a good way to fully cover her body without being suspicious.
      I was all for playing the act up, while everyone else was like, "Nooooo, don't piss her off!"
      The Raven Queen was, in fact, actually amused lol

    • @dorianr4770
      @dorianr4770 Před 7 měsíci +16

      such a captivating story. wish I'd been there...

    • @zippomage
      @zippomage Před 7 měsíci +13

      that's a fuckin' awesome story!

    • @koconnell968
      @koconnell968 Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@dorianr4770 Thank you, our party is really really great and a lot of fun. We've had a bunch of moments that have felt very Critical Role-esque and cinematic, including that one.
      Since it happened, we visited my character's home town for some information about the hag Endelyn before going to the Feywild, so I had to go through with telling her parents that she lost her luck (and consequently how she died because they didn't believe her). Very teary and emotional.
      I think there's some hope for getting the luck back since my character's father (through the DM) was insisting that her luck will be there when she needs it. That it never really goes away in our family. So there is *some* hope, but who knows what will qualify as when I need it.

    • @koconnell968
      @koconnell968 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@zippomage Thank you so much! I always feel really lucky I get to play every week with my friends and that we're all so invested in the story and each other's characters. My heart was in my throat as they tried to resurrect my character and failed, and then my negotiations with the Raven Queen had me even more strained.
      It's one of a bunch of moments we've had where our campaign felt very Critical Role-esque, like a moment you'd watch in one of their campaigns.

  • @mattball8622
    @mattball8622 Před 7 měsíci +136

    One little addition to the 'Scanlan misreads Vax and Kash' scene I'd like to put in there is that him not realising Vax's sexuality is another indicator that Scanlan doesn't actually know what true genuine love looks like, and that the confident bravado he's putting forward is a bit of a shield and smokescreen. Scanlan is one of those characters who you always have to analyse what they're doing at any given moment because there's a ninety percent chance Sam is laying the foundations for something that'll shatter your heart.

    • @mattball8622
      @mattball8622 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Oh, also, have a good honeymoon! A lot of us have had to put off a bunch of stuff over the last few years, so I'm glad you've been able to find time for some joy lately.

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 Před 4 měsíci

      Given how much Gilmore and Vax openly flirt, it certainly says something that THAT is too subtle for Scanlan.
      Bro is the fantasy equivalent of a porn addict 🤣

    • @kelseylogas1580
      @kelseylogas1580 Před 2 měsíci

      That is a seriously great observation, one I don't think I considered.

  • @kjj26k
    @kjj26k Před 7 měsíci +35

    Vex fails at haggling and has to pay full price for an item: "This is the worst thing that has ever happened to me."

  • @mkang8782
    @mkang8782 Před 7 měsíci +125

    Something Sam and Travis both do well throughout the campaign is playing to the "strengths" of their low ability scores *without* causing the party any harm, nor interfering with the other players' fun.

  • @Dani_77709
    @Dani_77709 Před 7 měsíci +130

    One roll changed everything. I often think about another universe where Vex didn't die and what kind of trajectory the campaign would have went, especially towards the end.

  • @2g33ksgamingttv3
    @2g33ksgamingttv3 Před 7 měsíci +95

    I love how the LoVM show almost exactly ripped their first reaction to the purvon name from the table

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 Před 7 měsíci +77

    I have to wonder, if in that moment that Liam as Vax says “take me instead you Raven bitch” if Matt decided to change the figure from Kash’s patron to the Raven Queen. I know I wouldn’t be able to think on my feet that fast, but I bet Matt could

    • @abrilvonbunny6205
      @abrilvonbunny6205 Před 7 měsíci +8

      I was thinking the exact same thing, wheter he did it or not, he definetly could... but I trust the inspiration can come to you too friend (?

  • @bokavordur
    @bokavordur Před 7 měsíci +53

    To build off of the "say your NPCs names out loud"
    Share the names with other DMs. Too often it's just that WE don't see it, but anyone else will pick up on it.

  • @wumbojet
    @wumbojet Před 7 měsíci +36

    Matt has a lot of moments later where he looks and points at the camera and says "AND THAT'S HOW I'M RULING IT IN MY GAME" and i genuinely think that helped the backseat DM'ing problem a lot.

  • @garrettcarter5622
    @garrettcarter5622 Před 7 měsíci +28

    As we saw from "Mikunt," Matt never learned his lesson with NPC names.

  • @wolfox7776
    @wolfox7776 Před 7 měsíci +57

    The episode that broke the Critters.
    TWICE.

  • @random_dude2537
    @random_dude2537 Před 7 měsíci +103

    On the matter of silly names, I recommend researching inuendos aswell because I once named a great cavalier "The stallion of the east". They leaned into that so much that I just made it canon.

    • @josh___something
      @josh___something Před 7 měsíci

      *"No C*ck like Horse C*ck" distantly in the background*

  • @notanotaku1101
    @notanotaku1101 Před 7 měsíci +80

    This sort of thing is where TTRPGs can really shine. Pure randomness of the dice rolls can throw an entire story down a new and exciting path when they hit at the right (or wrong) time. Youd be hard pressed to replicate that feeling in other forms of entertainment and storytelling.

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy Před 7 měsíci +3

      Conversely, there's also moments where one insanely GOOD roll completely changes the story. I can think of a few moment from Campaign 2, and both were from Caleb. This is why I try not to get mad at bad rolls: the dice are there as an improv storytelling tool.

  • @SummerOtaku
    @SummerOtaku Před 7 měsíci +59

    This one bad roll really pulled me into the fandom deeper as I had heard the Deathwalkers ward was supposed to go to Percy and I tried to dive deep into the what ifs…

  • @KatizeLuka
    @KatizeLuka Před 7 měsíci +58

    Honestly, there's so many incredible moments in this episode, but the one that haunts me the most is the moment when Laura realizes, like Matt's silence and the stunned faces as everyone at the table slowly realizes what's happening... Still gives me chills, what a powerful moment.

    • @Abyrae
      @Abyrae Před 7 měsíci

      So, I've started playing D&D recently after a newly 20 years break, so my memory's kinda fuzzy. Was it an insta-kill rather than just making Vex unconscious because it was necrotic damage, because she rolled a 1, or because of both?

    • @KatizeLuka
      @KatizeLuka Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Abyrae I don't know if it's ever been confirmed, but I always assumed it was the specific spell or trap that made that happen? There are some spells where if you fall to 0 HP or below because of them, you automatically die instead of simply falling unconscious so I assumed that was the case here. Someone else might know for sure though!

  • @Hammer4iv
    @Hammer4iv Před 7 měsíci +69

    One thing I took away from that scene is the pause Matt makes when he realises the trap killed Vex. Not just to create drama, but to acknowledge the heaviness and panic the players are about to feel. It sort of subtly indicates what’s about to happen gives him no pleasure and he’s with them, but what’s about to happen next is the will of the dice.

  • @Srioll
    @Srioll Před 7 měsíci +14

    I feel like when Sam says "Vax doesn't fly that way" I took it as him lying to protect Vax and Keyleth's relationship, not that he'd forgotten Vax and Gilmore had a thing going for a while.

  • @flockofflamingos
    @flockofflamingos Před 7 měsíci +19

    I remember this episode so distinctly because I was caught up by this time, so could watch live, but being on the east coast that was pretty late for me. I went to bed as it felt like the episode was wrapping up, as it was a really long one already, thinking, what else could possibly happen in the last ten minutes?
    I woke up the next day to an emotionally broken fandom and learned A LOT. A LOT COULD HAPPEN IN THE LAST TEN MINUTES ACTUALLY. I borrowed a friend's twitch account JUST so I could watch what I had missed immediately LOL. Definitely one of my favorite moments in the entire game.

    • @shieldgenerator7
      @shieldgenerator7 Před 6 měsíci +1

      you missed the end credits scene xD

    • @flockofflamingos
      @flockofflamingos Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@shieldgenerator7 LOL I REALLY DID never leave before the credits are over!! 😂

  • @The_Sharktocrab
    @The_Sharktocrab Před 7 měsíci +31

    The jokers "one bad day" monologue but its "one bad roll"

  • @paulscott2037
    @paulscott2037 Před 7 měsíci +27

    Considering what happens in Bells Hells, Vax's death is arguably the most important in two campaigns.

    • @aussiegamer9668
      @aussiegamer9668 Před 7 měsíci +1

      VALID ASF

    • @wolf_quill
      @wolf_quill Před 7 měsíci +1

      I don't mind spoilers pls explain ;-;

    • @pippastrelle
      @pippastrelle Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@wolf_quillIn Campaign 3, the villain used Vax's power as an otherworldly champion of the Raven Queen to set a trap and power his essentially doomsday device! And the trap set relied on what bait would catch Vax. Without this die roll, the c3 villain's plan would be completely different

    • @wolf_quill
      @wolf_quill Před 7 měsíci

      @@pippastrelle damnnn

  • @Tamashikiri
    @Tamashikiri Před 7 měsíci +8

    I'm still surprised Sam's Pedobear joke about Purvon got adapted for Legend of Vox Machina.

  • @yarro1965
    @yarro1965 Před 7 měsíci +6

    One of the most fun aspects of running Pathfinder 2e is the lack of opportunity attacks. I can't tell you how often I hear an indignant "hey!" From my players when a monster (especially a boss) moves out of their mosh pit of doom!

  • @sandstormxx
    @sandstormxx Před 7 měsíci +7

    first purvon, then mike hunt, now the perineum flower

  • @PokeJoshNY
    @PokeJoshNY Před 7 měsíci +17

    Just so you know, Megaphone Man has seen this shout out and really appreciates it. He can’t really watch the video though since he’s on episode 26 haha. If you ever have time on Monday or Wednesday nights though, it would be sick to have you stop by sometime.

  • @alexjohnston706
    @alexjohnston706 Před 7 měsíci +7

    The natural one heard around Exandria.

  • @Tijggie82
    @Tijggie82 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I just love Matt's face when Vex mentions her hp is zero... He was so scared....

  • @DarcOne13
    @DarcOne13 Před 7 měsíci +19

    That episode was... damn. I was watching *years* behind, and the emotions... I don't think I slept after watching this one.

    • @user-jt1js5mr3f
      @user-jt1js5mr3f Před 7 měsíci +1

      I stayed up late to finish this one. Same with another one much further down the line… “fix him.”

    • @DarcOne13
      @DarcOne13 Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-jt1js5mr3f omg, "fix him" was... heartwrenching is the only word I can think of.

    • @user-jt1js5mr3f
      @user-jt1js5mr3f Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@DarcOne13 and absolutely phenomenal 😢

  • @LVDubstep
    @LVDubstep Před 7 měsíci +15

    My Dnd campaign I was playing in fell apart over half a year ago and I’m still bummed about tbh to the point I don’t really consume as much dnd content as I used to. But this series and your videos are an exception. They are always so high quality and entertaining. I do hope to dip my toes back into dnd again in the future. thank you for all your hard work and being so respectful to what is dnd. I always find your takes well thought out and thought about so to speak.

  • @morganer5378
    @morganer5378 Před 7 měsíci +49

    I won't spoil the two next campaing, but damn this roll has big consequences even now!

    • @wolf_quill
      @wolf_quill Před 7 měsíci +2

      Pla spoil me I don't have time to catch up 😅

  • @Lord_Lambert
    @Lord_Lambert Před 7 měsíci +9

    I think this is definitely in contention for being the most impactful roll in Critical Role history. Now, Ive not watched past e20 of C2, or past e74 of C3, but I did watch all of C1, and I cant think of any that come close.
    Any others spring to mind?

    • @SupergeekMike
      @SupergeekMike  Před 7 měsíci +5

      There are a few in C2 that are pretty huge, but considering the impact this one had on not just C1 but also C3, I think this is gonna be a hard one to beat.

  • @intrusiveshadows724
    @intrusiveshadows724 Před 7 měsíci +5

    2:55 I love it when my feed does a cross over! MILDRED 😊

  • @intrusiveshadows724
    @intrusiveshadows724 Před 7 měsíci +7

    What a packed video!
    - I hope you have a great honeymoon! I'm glad you finally get to have it.
    - When I think about having fun at the table, especially when it comes to Liam, it's more often than not emotionally devastating. And that's a great thing! A testimony of the friendship at the table. D&D can be very emotionally cathartic. Hopefully everyone is on the same page with it, and it's clear that this table is very in sync.
    - at the same removed video, iirc, Matt talked about the gift he gave Liam later within the story. I won't do spoilers here but the threads are indeed golden. Matt is such a generous DM and friend, I respect his gift giving so much.

    • @SupergeekMike
      @SupergeekMike  Před 7 měsíci +4

      I was thinking of the Between the Sheets, but yea we’ll talk about what Matt said about this in the wrap-up once we get to another episode that digs into it deeper

  • @FranklinLongallnitelong22
    @FranklinLongallnitelong22 Před 7 měsíci +4

    As a game where dice plays a factor. This episode shows how the game is played even with the twists and turns. Changing the narrative...where even the DM may have to re-invent the story.

  • @gingerwithglasses
    @gingerwithglasses Před 7 měsíci +7

    When you were talking about how cr does movement in their fights all i could think of is (slight spoiler)
    Sams "thats why i moved closer" moment

    • @SupergeekMike
      @SupergeekMike  Před 7 měsíci +5

      Ooh that’s a great example

    • @gingerwithglasses
      @gingerwithglasses Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@SupergeekMikeI love how with almost no spoiler you know what I mean because it's so iconic

    • @kjj26k
      @kjj26k Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@gingerwithglasses
      If yer gonna remember a moment from a DnD campaign...that would be it.

  • @Shibamanda
    @Shibamanda Před 7 měsíci +5

    Was legit surprised when I saw a Thought Slime clip and then I was like "Oh nevermind that makes sense!" haha, keep up the great work! May Lord Oculon cast its gaze upon you!

  • @SummerOtaku
    @SummerOtaku Před 7 měsíci +9

    Great episode! I am already watching the episodes along with Megaphone Man and then coming back and rewatching this series and it’s very cool. Awesome you gave him a shout out! Def feels like I’m getting story telling and DM insights in combo from you both!

    • @SupergeekMike
      @SupergeekMike  Před 7 měsíci +1

      He is terrific! I’m always impressed with his insights

  • @tomjordan1170
    @tomjordan1170 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Really great video, Mike - as always. I had shivers just seeing the clips from this episode again.

  • @kweh8122
    @kweh8122 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I've never been able to muster the energy to watch the actual series for longer than a couple episodes, but your recaps and lessons are super palatable and engaging, so I'm looking forward to whatever happens as a result of this.

  • @luxrayever
    @luxrayever Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hey mike thanks for including megaphone man in the video, I had never heard of anyone just reacting to the entirety of critical role completely blind from the beginning, and the fact he's an experienced DM makes it so much better, I've already binged a couple of streams and I've been loving it, great recommendation

  • @redknight808
    @redknight808 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I appreciate your observations so much. ❤

  • @rabbidchickenfilms
    @rabbidchickenfilms Před 7 měsíci +1

    was not prepared for the thoughtslime clip

  • @showcase0525
    @showcase0525 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Your work is concise and valuable.

  • @Lngbrdninjamasta
    @Lngbrdninjamasta Před 7 měsíci +11

    Wow a Thanksgiving episode! I will b watching this while making food I hope those who celebrate enjoy themselves & those who don't, enjoy ur random Thursday ❤😁

  • @Teethmafia
    @Teethmafia Před 7 měsíci +4

    She Purvan Mike hunt till I jumanji Costco. [*insert face of sams first Mercer shirt*]

    • @SupergeekMike
      @SupergeekMike  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Haha I forgot about Jumanji Costco. I don’t even remember the character’s real last name! There really is one epically memorably bad name every campaign 😂

  • @IgnisKhan
    @IgnisKhan Před 7 měsíci +1

    I've been watching Vox Machina for a couple months now, and I always use your videos as a recap before starting the next episode. I'm finally caught up, and able to watch this on the day it released! But now I have to forge on into the VM playlist, alone...

  • @mentalrebllion1270
    @mentalrebllion1270 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Yay! New episode!

  • @AlexDelux2500
    @AlexDelux2500 Před 7 měsíci +1

    So many years later and I still get chills...

  • @bristowski
    @bristowski Před 7 měsíci +6

    This is a good channel. This is a good series. I like Mike.

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Alright, can’t wait for a nice overview of a shopping episode!

  • @ShyyGaladriel
    @ShyyGaladriel Před 7 měsíci +2

    That roll was just so amazing. What a scene.

  • @BigKlingy
    @BigKlingy Před 7 měsíci +2

    First thing I want to say about this episode. For being the 1-year anniversary, I think it's one of the first times the cast uses the term "Critter" on-stream, Sam working it into one of his Inspiration songs.
    "Friends, I don't mean to sound bitter,
    But a year ago, life was a shitter,
    'Till I picked up some dice,
    With some friends, it was nice,
    And now, ah, I'm a Critter."
    This was kind of the point where the cast realized how big the show was getting, but also how much it'd changed the lives of so many people. It's a nice moment that I always remember from this episode, even alongside the... other crazy events.
    I love how most of the cast's reactions to Purvon's name made it into the animated series almost verbatim.
    The whole "your fun is wrong" thing, it plays into what I feel is a strength of TTRPGs: unlike a videogame, where you need complicated mods or hacks to "change the rules", you have the freedom to make up new rules or ignore existing ones on the fly, if you think it'll make things more fun. Perfect example: Matt ruling that Keyleth in Water Elemental form can't catch fire "because that's stupid". (It's one of the Pyrah visits but I forget if it's the previous or next one) Not only is that weird logically, but Keyleth specifically turned into a Water Elemental because they were fighting Fire Elementals, punishing her for it would've ruined the fun Marisha was going for.
    That conversation with Percy and Vax. Not accidental ominous foreshadowing at all.
    I still think it's hilarious that the rest of the cast never realized Scanlan had a low Wisdom modifier until literally the final battle. To which Sam replied: "Why do you think I make terrible decisions all the time?" "We thought you were just an asshole!" Sam was so good at roleplaying a bad stat that the other players never even realized that's what it was, it instead became "that's just Scanlan being Scanlan."
    (Another interesting aspect of this scene is I think it implied Scanlan was exclusively into women, but later episodes would establish that... well, to quote a comment I once saw, "Scanlan's sexual preference is 'yes'." I think this is just a consequence of the characters, especially those of Campaign 1, being developed as they played rather than fully conceptualized from the start)
    Oh man, speaking of "one bad roll", if Kash had failed one more saving throw and been petrified... that would've REALLY changed things.
    Speaking of Kash, while the animated series handled this moment very, very well for the most part, one detail you miss is the fact Kash had to risk drawing Vesh's attention to resurrect Vex. I totally agree with the decision to cut Vesh out of the show because it would've required too much exposition for something that ultimately never plays into Vox Machina's story, but knowing about her adds a little more to this choice.
    And yeah, you covered it. Liam was going through depression in real life when this happened and I can't imagine how it must've felt to play a character who just happened to go through trauma at the same time. We know from other videos that Matt made Vax "Fate-Touched" (not exactly a spoiler since it's canon to the game from this moment but I don't think it's directly brought up for a while) because Liam was going through a tough time and Matt wanted to give him some light. Still, I remember a lot of people getting on Liam's case for making Vax too brooding, when there were not only in-character but also irl circumstances behind it.

    • @Boundwithflame23
      @Boundwithflame23 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I think a water elemental could theoretically catch fire if it got oil tossed onto it. Though technically it would be the oil burning. Could be a cool effect though 🤔
      And yeah I’ve seen “edgy” and “emo” thrown out towards Caleb too and even Orym to some degree. I think it’s disrespectful to Liam.
      Actually something that occurred to me is how he played Vax and Caleb and is playing Orym in relation to the stages of grief.
      Orym, acceptance; Vax, anger and bargaining; Caleb kinda goes through all 5

    • @BigKlingy
      @BigKlingy Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Boundwithflame23 Orym was in Liam's head for a long time, he's said in interviews that his backup character if Vax died in Campaign 1 was a Halfling Ashari widower who had been sent by Keyleth's father to help her through her grief, which was clearly the same character who ended up becoming Orym. (The only difference is his dead husband would've been named "Riegel") He also wanted to be "just a guy" and less relevant to the overall story arc and fate of the world but... we'll see how that pans out.

    • @Boundwithflame23
      @Boundwithflame23 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@BigKlingy oh yeah I forgot about that.

  • @heykak
    @heykak Před 7 měsíci +3

    with the latest episode of CR3, Travis has solidified for me as being the most adaptive RPer of the group. And you can see it all the way from campaign 1.

  • @zefiewings
    @zefiewings Před 7 měsíci +3

    This is such a heavy episode.
    And I am very much looking forward to your videos on handling character death. This is still the thing that I struggle with the most as a new DM. I find myself fudging roles so characters can just barley live, though they don't know that quite yet. I just need characters' stories to matter because that's what's important to me. Its especially difficult because the game I am running, Dragon Age, doesn't have access to spells like Revivify, and i would want this one last chance that carries a heartfelt story like seen here. I hope to learn things from your upcoming videos that can help me find a balance I am happy with.

  • @Roze_Lunashadow
    @Roze_Lunashadow Před 7 měsíci +1

    I was not expecting that thoughtslime jump scare.

  • @ColonelMustache
    @ColonelMustache Před 7 měsíci +5

    As cool as the resurrection rituals are, and as iconic as some of those scenes have become, I think I've become slightly sick of them in recent years? There are only so many "hey, we really need you to come back right now/we can't do this without you" scenes I can watch before they start to become stale. Combine this with the fact that I don't think any of the rituals have actually failed (campaign 2 has some special cases, but ultimately I'd call them all successful), and the tension isn't really there for me anymore.
    I do, however, enjoy it when bringing the character back is a quest in itself, as it might have been here had Matt rolled lower. Again without spoiling too much, the most recent resurrection in campaign 3 was excellently done. It wasn't just the same ritual rolls, they actually had to find the right people, persuade them, and do some cool and difficult stuff to get it to work. I found that way more interesting than pretty much any of the resurrections beforehand.

  • @thedragonsknow
    @thedragonsknow Před 6 měsíci

    This was so good!!!

  • @janekfilipowski9119
    @janekfilipowski9119 Před 7 měsíci +2

    12:42 This reminded me of something that Sam did in campaign 2

  • @gandolf7777
    @gandolf7777 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Didn't expect the Thought Slime cameo in the video. That was a fun crossover suprise.

    • @kjj26k
      @kjj26k Před 7 měsíci +1

      It's one of those crossovers that you never see coming but makes total sense afterwards.

  • @MJM9411
    @MJM9411 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I don't know what it is - but that scene, in both the anime and live action takes me to the verge of tears every time.
    Even when its described its not nearly as vivid as it could be - but its enough.
    IDK if that makes sense though. I never watched Campaign 1 - I had no connection to these characters. I Only started watching in C3 but that scene man

  • @TakeWalker
    @TakeWalker Před 7 měsíci +1

    dang, that's a wild flippin' episode! :O but we got through it together :D

  • @KevinPally
    @KevinPally Před 6 měsíci

    Loved this video. Instant follow. I think I'm a pretty good DM but I'm eager to learn more to run better games and tell better stories. I'm looking forward to learning more through these videos!

  • @cconnelly7010
    @cconnelly7010 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Happy Thanksgiving to you and all! I hope you get to enjoy time with family, friends, and all those you are most thankful for.

  • @lefterismplanas4977
    @lefterismplanas4977 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This was phenomenal.
    Ps.
    I'm going to have little free time for the nest 8-9 months, so sorry if I'm late in the vids

  • @bokavordur
    @bokavordur Před 7 měsíci +1

    I for one welcome and celebrate a Thought Slime Mildred reference in your videos.

  • @Wanderinpaladin
    @Wanderinpaladin Před 7 měsíci +1

    I remember watching this. At the time I was the only Critter at my table. Now with the show the rest of the table saw this. We were a group of the ones who went out and watched the show in the theater. I love how they split it between episodes 2 and 3 leaving Vax holding Vex. People in the theater who didn't know what was happening were going "Is that it? Wait when's the next episode."

  • @kylebeardsley6200
    @kylebeardsley6200 Před 7 měsíci +1

    One of my favorite "your fun is wrong" moments from a different campaign is from an episode of Oxventure from Outside Xbox. One of the players was trying to influence a tournament he was spectating, but wanted to do it subtly, and this conversation happened:
    Player: Can I use Mage Hand to punch the minotaur?
    DM: Let me check the rules ... "You may not use Mage Hand to make attacks" ...That's stupid, I'm ignoring that, make a spell attack
    Oxventure has always been a pretty rules-light game, but it was still very funny in the moment.

  • @erinjoyner3739
    @erinjoyner3739 Před 3 dny

    This is not only a significant death in C1, but (without spoilers) it also affects C3. It's wild how crucial that one roll became...

  • @forrestwentworthii1321
    @forrestwentworthii1321 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I was in a campaign that went on for a couple of years in college. One of the first NPCs my party met was a very wealthy merchant named Alpeen. A couple of semesters later, through the party's actions, Alpeen ended up in a political marriage to Lady Merris Iswood. Most of us didn't realize what was happening because we always referred to her as Lady Merris. And then at the end of the session the party's resident troll fell out laughing. (He had been the driving player behind the effort to get the two married. At the time we thought he was getting into the political plot that some of the other players really loved - boy were we wrong).
    And then he pointed it out. He had engineered the character's name change to:
    Lord Alpeen Iswood which was pronounced like Lord Ole P****wad.

  • @dziooooo
    @dziooooo Před 7 měsíci +1

    I used the resurrection ritual in one of my games few years ago. One of the most amazing sessions we've ever had. And I scared everyone silly, because i used a Pike d20 from the Vox Machina dice set - the symbol for 20 is Pike's mace, and it looks almost like a 1......

  • @steegen101
    @steegen101 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I paused in the middle of this video to go to bed & dreamt I was facing a Beholder irl

  • @phobiawitch835
    @phobiawitch835 Před 7 měsíci

    I watched this episode on my only watch through of VM. I was at work when listening to, having caught up with Mighty Nein and waiting for Bells Hells to even BEGIN. I believe I had to turn down the volume a bit because of the mixed voices and the chaos after the fight lol. But I still remember my heart dropping when the trap went off, and the results. I had seen the Dalen’s Closet one shot already, so I knew Vex lived. But I didn’t realize what happened in that moment till it happened.
    It is one reason why, when exploring as a player, I try to be slow and cautious. I still feel bad for the one time I kinda stepped on toes, cuz we had even more people in call than usual (a guest player for a couple sessions). I partly hang back (or try to) when it comes to exploring so we dont have a moment like this. Which is definitely difficult when I’m the Rogue and scout half the time thanks to a ring of invisibility, lol. But I wanna avoid the sheer chaos of a moment like that which leads up to a trap that has fatal consequences.

  • @manueltorresart2345
    @manueltorresart2345 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I'm not sure if this was the most important death in this campaign (I'm thinking of other one that shattered the team), but as the first one and the way it happened is undeniable the impact it had. I suffered a lot!!!

    • @Aetheria60
      @Aetheria60 Před 7 měsíci

      It's most definitely the most important death. The ripples are still being felt in the third campaign.
      The other death you're alluding to led to some drama, but was otherwise a blip in time.

    • @manueltorresart2345
      @manueltorresart2345 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Aetheria60 Haven't started C3 yet 🤷‍♂. I'll get there sometime next year (stimated time).

  • @Stephen-Fox
    @Stephen-Fox Před 7 měsíci +1

    Was not expecting a clip of Thought Slime when I clicked this video.

  • @CelestiaLily
    @CelestiaLily Před 7 měsíci +1

    "in a video no longer accessible for entirely unrelated reasons" ahhhh yep forgot all the BtS stuff is gone -_-
    Kinda glad that bit of Liam's experience was worth bringing up in the context of this moment, since all I could recall from his interview was iirc some joke about growing up in Weehawken lmao
    EDIT: now I'm just generally impressed with how much background analysis u do for putting key moments in the context of minor IRL factors (not even the whole parental death aspect, but just "yeah the technical difficulties & the hiatus made everyone a lil punchy, the guests had to go & they just had a wild combat encounter so there was a lax attitude towards looting all the spoils").

  • @Fwoppers
    @Fwoppers Před 7 měsíci +2

    Congrats on the honeymoon! Save travels!

  • @jenny_of_oldstones3523
    @jenny_of_oldstones3523 Před 6 měsíci

    9:02 Freaking Sam is such a chaos gremlin!!!
    Totally hilarious improv. from both of them. This keeps up whenever they see each other and i they just gets funnier.

  • @dorianr4770
    @dorianr4770 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'd be interested if you were to do a video comparing different character deaths in Critical Role across the campaigns, and how they were similar/different...

  • @tellmeaboutyourgame314
    @tellmeaboutyourgame314 Před 7 měsíci +1

    When i get too many people trying to do too many things all at the same time, i occasionally tell them to roll initiative
    In my mind, initiative is to be used whenever individual acts, their degree of success, and their timing matter critically to the overall outcome of a situation. That's usually combat, but not always.

  • @GAdmThrawn
    @GAdmThrawn Před 7 měsíci +2

    Does anyone else make the Raven-Queen a Death Goddess? Or do you assign her a different role in your campaign cosmology? I personally am making her a Goddess of Memory and Dreams due to her collective nature. She works with the God of Death in that she preserves the memory of those who have died while They claim their souls. She also preserves secrets and will not relinquish them unless someone is willing to bargain a profound memory in return. One of those secrets being something she had managed to attain from the previous God of Memory: the secret to deification.

  • @user-fc7sv5ln6m
    @user-fc7sv5ln6m Před 3 měsíci

    The battle map factor is so true - I quickly discovered that using "theatre of the mind" for combat renders a lot of characters abilities (especially extra speed and special movements) virtually worthless, because the DM can't keep track of everyone's location to the nearest 5 feet in their head, and even if they could, they can't describe it so that the players all have the same understanding.

  • @ToaArcan
    @ToaArcan Před 7 měsíci +1

    Six words that changed _everything._

  • @jacquiblanchard3131
    @jacquiblanchard3131 Před 6 měsíci

    I love this. It's the good kind of meta gaming when experienced DM & players can temporarily dial it down for new players joining the group, whether temporarily or long term. Their PC might be whatever level, but the player is not, and they adjust and make it fun for all.

  • @birdfurnace
    @birdfurnace Před 7 měsíci +2

    I remember how Vax/Liam was planning his "redemption", leaning into a shared worship of Sarenrae with Pike. I think about what things would be like if things had been different - not only in the latter half of campaign 1, but also *now* in campaign 3. What would the current story look like? No spoilers for C3, but it's safe to say that Vax is tangentially related to the current story.

  • @3DBanditTutorials
    @3DBanditTutorials Před 6 měsíci

    Yeah describing a statue of silvanus got my table giggling

  • @heresjonny666
    @heresjonny666 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Lesson number 1 example: I had an Npc once that was named ‘Pinas’
    Yep. I said that out loud in front of all my players.

  • @Dunybrook
    @Dunybrook Před 3 měsíci

    Great video. Considering the role-play possibilities that happened because of this homebrew revivify ritual I think I'd prefer having to do something like this to bring anybody back from the dead.

  • @MrThewalkingdead
    @MrThewalkingdead Před 2 měsíci

    And the point here that isn't made, when one bad role changes everything, strongly consider letting it. Or rather, when one bad role WOULD change everything, strongly consider honoring it.

  • @sagesaria
    @sagesaria Před 7 měsíci +8

    Hot take: Purvan is a perfectly good name and if the DM is clearly showing distress at you laughing, maybe try to reign it in because DMing is soul-bearing enough as it is.

  • @pardox28
    @pardox28 Před 7 měsíci +1

    An episode on Thanksgiving? What is this, Christmas?

  • @drokangel
    @drokangel Před 7 měsíci +1

    I hope you had a Happy Hunter's Holiday!

  • @l0stndamned
    @l0stndamned Před 7 měsíci +1

    With some of the names I've come up with it's less a case of them sounding lewd or weird and more a case of the being harder to easily pronounce. This did lead to a running joke of calling a mi-go "Steve" because no-one could be bothered remembering how to say his actual name ("mind if we call you Steve" "Yes, I do mind, but that isn't going to stop you is it?").

  • @Ssarevok
    @Ssarevok Před 7 měsíci +3

    From the clip, it seems like Trinket should have died too, but Matt just glossed over it. Or did I miss something?

    • @SupergeekMike
      @SupergeekMike  Před 7 měsíci +7

      At the end of the episode, Laura mentioned that Trinket was fine, he had plenty of hit points to survive the blast

  • @crazycryo5856
    @crazycryo5856 Před 5 měsíci

    Learned this the hard way in Cuberpunk Red from an antagonist named Zemen

  • @Schramm456
    @Schramm456 Před 6 měsíci

    And one note that wasn't brought up because I think Mike's talked about it before, but I love how when Keyleth checks if anything is wrong with Vax, Matt just says no. He doesn't call for a roll of any kind because if Marisha rolled low, she'd never believe Matt and just assume she'd have gotten the truth had she rolled higher

  • @mattbriddell9246
    @mattbriddell9246 Před 7 měsíci +1

    2:15 Here were are 4-5 years later and Matt still has not learned this lesson.