The Vongo is the most returned shoe at the store I work at. Now that they've taken the post out of the 860 and added the EVA film like the Vongo has, I don't see any reason New Balance needs to continue the Vongo line.
Dude I‘ve watched this year Western States 100 over the CZcams livestream and I‘m so inspired by this incredible performances from Jim and Katie 😍😭 The finish where I cried the most was the finish of second and third men 🔥🔥🔥 I was so amazed because they finished 16 seconds apart from each other 🙇♂️🙏 They‘re all real stouts in my eyes because they worked so hard on the road what led them to that startline 😃😃😃😃
Appreciate the stability shoe highlights! To your point, definitely more of a niche category for runners, but def worth looking into. I ran a half marathon recently in the NB Supercomp Elite V4's, and while smashing those faster paces felt smooth, I did develop considerable ankle and achilles pain in the last couple miles (due to some overpronation). You can say my feet are in need of a decent stability shoe atm 😅 Vongo is a miss, but the 860 looks to be a solid contender. Thanks for the timely insight and reviews!
Loved the Vongo V5. I’m a heavy runner and got them to 350 miles and I was happy with that. I tried the Vongo V6 and they were decent up until mile 180. After that my feet (notible my left foot) was just aching during the runs. Disappointing but now rocking the Novablast 🙏✅
I overpronate slightly but never ran in stability shoes until I tried out the Vongo V6. Hated it after .15 miles and immediately returned them. Got the 1080v13 instead. 50 miles it and loving it.
I’d love to see a comparison between the 860 and the More v5, which supposedly has some stability elements. Related: “Inherent stability” should be tossed into the bin of meaningless buzzwords. There’s nothing “inherent” about giant sidewalls added to increase stability. Sidewalls, guard rails, wide base, medial post - they’re all extrinsic!
That's a great comparison idea. Also I talked about the inherent stability in my video going up tonight - surprising spoiler alert but I'm pro-inherent stability as a phrase 😂
Absolutely loving the content as a pronator and heel striker! I watch or listen to your videos during my runs or gym sessions, when I’m puttin’ in the work! How do these shoes compare to Propel V5? Maybe do a comparison video between stability shoes. I’m a heavier runner and run 10:00-8:00 pace/mile, my long runs are 15-20k, which one would you recommend?
Propel felt a lot softer and bouncier. Vongo has a denser more supportive foam and will likely be a better choice if you're nursing any foot/leg injuries. Even though the ride wasn't the best/most exciting out of the box, the Vongo felt protective and comfortable
I had to return the Vongo v5. It was one of the most uncomfortable shoes I've ever worn. I think the v5 was a bit different than the v6 in that it had a very firm medial post.
Thanks for reviewing the Vongo. My thoughts, 1080 neutral price/ quality/feel➡Vongo; 880 ➡860. If you look closely, 860 and 880 have the same similarities, front, top, outsole, eyelets, just as the 1080 has to the Vongo. What about the More v5?
I got the Vongo V6 and I'm checking your video to see the differences between it and the 860v14 ! At the beginning the Vongo did not impressed me, it was very different from the 1080v13 ( super soft). But after like 70km the foam softened up and I got used to the snug forefoot and the ultra elastic laces ! Great shoes.
As my favorite shoe reviewer, I had an idea for beating the other reviewers to the punch on a major line … check out the Anta’s from China. I have the C202 5GT, the C202 5GT Pro and the C10 Pro. They can compete with anything you’ve reviewed at the high end daily and racing class (I have tried everything including Evo Pro 1)… they only weight 229g, 204g and 213g in US size 11. The C10 Pro is tougher to get your hands on but I got it from Poizon. C10 is like getting the Cielo X1 design but at the weight of the Asics Metaspeed Edge Paris.
“The name “New Balance Vongo” has an interesting origin! It’s believed that the founder, William J. Riley, came up with the name by observing chickens in his yard. He demonstrated how his arch supports worked by keeping a chicken foot on his office desk.” This is what Copilot comes up with 😂😂
Hey there I’m looking for I new shoe I have the sl2 as my main daily trainer and I love it but my novablast three are pretty much dead so I need another daily shoe but I’m also increasing in mileage and I’m needing a long run shoe. I was thinking about picking up the prime X strung 2 and seeing if it could be used for both otherwise I am open to buying up two shoes respective to their own category just wondering your thoughts
Exact same situation, sl2 and dead nb3 (after shockingly few miles). I'm thinking - sl2 and similar shoes for long and recovery runs too. I'm done with mushy marshmallow shoes. I have a pair of vongo but i don't use them. They're not even soft, i don't see the point.
@@fredriksvard2603 right everyone is saying how they can get 400 miles out of nb3 and I only got 250-300 and I’m a “light runner” 5”11 145-150 lbs although I am a high force producing runner
@@fredriksvard2603 rn I’m thinking about the new balance rebel but I don’t know how durable that will be and for long runs I’m considering Boston 12, saucony sinister speed 3 and 4
Hey I saw your other note about looking for a long run shoe. I would highly recommend the triumph 21 - I had the 20 and it was my favorite non plated shoe for long runs. 21 is same midsole - they are super versatile and durable shoes and would be great to pair with SL2
Hurricane is a lot softer and more cushioned. The 860 is peppier/faster and more versatile. If you're going for comfort get the hurricane and if you want a do-it-all shoe for speed and long runs as well as daily miles get the 860
For gym I'd go 860. It feels more nimble and connected - also better stability for any lateral movement. Vongo might be a little more cushioned for walking but so far I prefer the 860 overall - feels like the package comes together better
@@supwell thank you for reply. I saw another reviewer say that the 860 might make you supinate which I am a bit worried about. I am flat footed and pronate slightly but do sometimes twist ankle if I supinate slightly.
@@carlito24ukI saw a reviewer say they won’t cause you to supinate, but won’t help you if you supinate as they e removed some foam on the lateral side of the shoe.
Yeah I have the Kayano on my list to try! Stay tuned. But if you're still looking for those two walking shoes I would suggest the 860 and brooks ghost max
@@elazar1333 I ended up keeping the ghost max only. It is the most comfortable walking shoe for me. The kayano was too heavy and the 860 felt a bit unstable.
Respect to Yowana and the slugs for putting that work in
The Vongo is the most returned shoe at the store I work at. Now that they've taken the post out of the 860 and added the EVA film like the Vongo has, I don't see any reason New Balance needs to continue the Vongo line.
Agreed - other than the softer upper, the 860 felt so much better in every way. Lighter, easier to run in and more fun
Same here
agree. nothing special. actually is a step back from Vongo v5, and it’s too low at the back meaning the foot sits too high on the shoe. i returned it.
This is exactly the video I was looking for. I need a stability shoe and 860 is my next shoe. Thank you!
a slug watch shirt in the same print as the carbon would go so hard
"Unlike our friend Joey B".... I am always genuinely entertained 🤣
Dude I‘ve watched this year Western States 100 over the CZcams livestream and I‘m so inspired by this incredible performances from Jim and Katie 😍😭 The finish where I cried the most was the finish of second and third men 🔥🔥🔥 I was so amazed because they finished 16 seconds apart from each other 🙇♂️🙏 They‘re all real stouts in my eyes because they worked so hard on the road what led them to that startline 😃😃😃😃
Appreciate the stability shoe highlights! To your point, definitely more of a niche category for runners, but def worth looking into.
I ran a half marathon recently in the NB Supercomp Elite V4's, and while smashing those faster paces felt smooth, I did develop considerable ankle and achilles pain in the last couple miles (due to some overpronation). You can say my feet are in need of a decent stability shoe atm 😅 Vongo is a miss, but the 860 looks to be a solid contender. Thanks for the timely insight and reviews!
First! Love your content! I really enjoy this shoe! I find it just the right blend of support and cushioning.
Loved the Vongo V5. I’m a heavy runner and got them to 350 miles and I was happy with that. I tried the Vongo V6 and they were decent up until mile 180. After that my feet (notible my left foot) was just aching during the runs. Disappointing but now rocking the Novablast 🙏✅
I overpronate slightly but never ran in stability shoes until I tried out the Vongo V6. Hated it after .15 miles and immediately returned them. Got the 1080v13 instead. 50 miles it and loving it.
You said you'll review it and you did! Let's go
Thanks for taking all of us along on the family vacation.🙂
🙌🏽
I’d love to see a comparison between the 860 and the More v5, which supposedly has some stability elements.
Related: “Inherent stability” should be tossed into the bin of meaningless buzzwords.
There’s nothing “inherent” about giant sidewalls added to increase stability. Sidewalls, guard rails, wide base, medial post - they’re all extrinsic!
That's a great comparison idea. Also I talked about the inherent stability in my video going up tonight - surprising spoiler alert but I'm pro-inherent stability as a phrase 😂
Absolutely loving the content as a pronator and heel striker! I watch or listen to your videos during my runs or gym sessions, when I’m puttin’ in the work!
How do these shoes compare to Propel V5? Maybe do a comparison video between stability shoes.
I’m a heavier runner and run 10:00-8:00 pace/mile, my long runs are 15-20k, which one would you recommend?
Propel felt a lot softer and bouncier. Vongo has a denser more supportive foam and will likely be a better choice if you're nursing any foot/leg injuries. Even though the ride wasn't the best/most exciting out of the box, the Vongo felt protective and comfortable
Also for your second question I would suggest the 860! It's a nice combination of stability and fun. I did a 21 mile long run in it and it was great
I had to return the Vongo v5. It was one of the most uncomfortable shoes I've ever worn. I think the v5 was a bit different than the v6 in that it had a very firm medial post.
Race tank idea: Supwell Slugs 😂
Thanks for reviewing the Vongo. My thoughts, 1080 neutral price/
quality/feel➡Vongo; 880 ➡860. If you look closely, 860 and 880 have the same similarities, front, top, outsole, eyelets, just as the 1080 has to the Vongo. What about the More v5?
More v5 is coming soon!
I got the Vongo V6 and I'm checking your video to see the differences between it and the 860v14 !
At the beginning the Vongo did not impressed me, it was very different from the 1080v13 ( super soft). But after like 70km the foam softened up and I got used to the snug forefoot and the ultra elastic laces ! Great shoes.
Good to know about the break in period! Thanks for the insights
As my favorite shoe reviewer, I had an idea for beating the other reviewers to the punch on a major line … check out the Anta’s from China. I have the C202 5GT, the C202 5GT Pro and the C10 Pro. They can compete with anything you’ve reviewed at the high end daily and racing class (I have tried everything including Evo Pro 1)… they only weight 229g, 204g and 213g in US size 11. The C10 Pro is tougher to get your hands on but I got it from Poizon. C10 is like getting the Cielo X1 design but at the weight of the Asics Metaspeed Edge Paris.
thanks for the tip! i'll have to add these to the list
Let's goooo Pennsylvania slugs!!!
How about 860 v13 vs v14 ? I'd be using them for daily wear with standing all day at work.
Can you make another video running in the Kinvara Pros? Love your commentary!!
Does the 860 have a forgiving fit? I really like how the rebel fits. Is it comparable?
Rebel is maybe a touch wider but 860 is also pretty forgiving. I was sent it a half size down from my normal size and it still fits well
Bro you should do a video and compare 880/Vongo to Crocs.
😂
didn’t even know new balance made this kind of shoe!
“The name “New Balance Vongo” has an interesting origin! It’s believed that the founder, William J. Riley, came up with the name by observing chickens in his yard. He demonstrated how his arch supports worked by keeping a chicken foot on his office desk.” This is what Copilot comes up with 😂😂
Hahaha AI going off the deep end
Putting respect on his name
that yatupatupa go hard 39:16
I would definitely buy a Sydney McLaughlin daily trainer😍
Hey there I’m looking for I new shoe I have the sl2 as my main daily trainer and I love it but my novablast three are pretty much dead so I need another daily shoe but I’m also increasing in mileage and I’m needing a long run shoe. I was thinking about picking up the prime X strung 2 and seeing if it could be used for both otherwise I am open to buying up two shoes respective to their own category just wondering your thoughts
Exact same situation, sl2 and dead nb3 (after shockingly few miles). I'm thinking - sl2 and similar shoes for long and recovery runs too. I'm done with mushy marshmallow shoes. I have a pair of vongo but i don't use them. They're not even soft, i don't see the point.
@@fredriksvard2603 right everyone is saying how they can get 400 miles out of nb3 and I only got 250-300 and I’m a “light runner” 5”11 145-150 lbs although I am a high force producing runner
@@fredriksvard2603 rn I’m thinking about the new balance rebel but I don’t know how durable that will be and for long runs I’m considering Boston 12, saucony sinister speed 3 and 4
Hey I saw your other note about looking for a long run shoe. I would highly recommend the triumph 21 - I had the 20 and it was my favorite non plated shoe for long runs. 21 is same midsole - they are super versatile and durable shoes and would be great to pair with SL2
Waiting on superblast 2 review
hello, i love your videos. I’m from Brazil.
In your opinion, the most comfy shoes: vongo v6 or balos?
thanks 😊
Definitely balos! It's much softer and has a more cushioned feel. Vongo is former and not as comfortable
Can you please make a video comparing the New Balance 860 v14 to the Saucony hurricane 24 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Hurricane is a lot softer and more cushioned. The 860 is peppier/faster and more versatile. If you're going for comfort get the hurricane and if you want a do-it-all shoe for speed and long runs as well as daily miles get the 860
NB need to drop the weights of the 860 and vongo, no need to be near or past 300g
What would you say is better for someone walking and standing more? Or using in gym. The 860 or the vongo?
For gym I'd go 860. It feels more nimble and connected - also better stability for any lateral movement. Vongo might be a little more cushioned for walking but so far I prefer the 860 overall - feels like the package comes together better
@@supwell thank you for reply. I saw another reviewer say that the 860 might make you supinate which I am a bit worried about. I am flat footed and pronate slightly but do sometimes twist ankle if I supinate slightly.
@@carlito24ukI saw a reviewer say they won’t cause you to supinate, but won’t help you if you supinate as they e removed some foam on the lateral side of the shoe.
@@Echom4-kr5elSo are the 860 still the best/better choice? Also v13 vs v14? Which do you have?
@@elazar1333 I’d go 860 over the vongo for the above mentioned benefits. I prefer v14 with the less obtrusive arch and the slight rocker.
Pull up in the Linguine alle Vongole
Vongo V6 or 880v14
Vongo for sure. Even after one run I can tell it's a much better ride than the 880. But I'd take the 860v14 over either - more fun and more versatile
NB!💪
lol Sydney has the new balance mdx line for spikes already I get what you’re saying though
would love to hear your thoughts on the asics gt 2000 12
Any chance you will review the Kayano 30 or 31 to compare it to the Vongo V6 and 860v14?
Yeah I have the Kayano on my list to try! Stay tuned. But if you're still looking for those two walking shoes I would suggest the 860 and brooks ghost max
@@supwell Thanks, I ordered all three of them to see which 2 I like the most! Thanks for recommending the 860 and the Ghost Max!
@@MegaYummyjellyany update what's your favorite what are you using them for?
@@elazar1333 I ended up keeping the ghost max only. It is the most comfortable walking shoe for me. The kayano was too heavy and the 860 felt a bit unstable.
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Damn... Today was really a chit-chatting video..