FT8 pedestrian/mobile with IC-705, Android (FT8CN), NO USB cable! How to configure.
Vložit
- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- How to configure the Icom IC-705 radio and the FT8CN app for Android phone , in order to run the wireless link between the two and successfully operate FT8 mode with no need for the USB cable? The answer is in this video. Before you start, please make sure your radio is set up for Digital FT8 mode. Tutorial in this video only deals with the wireless setup aspects.
If you would like more general information on the FT8CN app for Android, please check my other video with the app review and its work with the QDX digital QRP transceiver:
Pocket FT8 for Android! FT8CN app review with QDX transceiver.
• Pocket FT8 for Android...
FT8CN download page:
github.com/N0BOY/FT8CN
FT8CN Manual (for English, use iOs Safari or Google Chrome website translation facility (press Aa or similar icon in the browser’s address bar), the quality of translation is just OK to understand everything):
support.qq.com/embed/phone/41...
A user manual in pdf compiled by Steve G1KQH
g1kqh.blogspot.com/2023/02/ft8...
If you would like to support the channel’s growth, you are most welcome to buy me a coffee!
www.buymeacoffee.com/ly2h
Thank you! 73!
@Linas_LY2H - Jak na to + styl
I like the fact that you go into great detail and methodically explain the settings necessary to get on the air. Makes our lives a lot easier.
Thanks,
I was able to get this working using my Samsung s23u as a hotspot, and access point on my 705. Thanks for the video.
Wish you lots of DX contacts! 73! Linas LY2H
That's Why I like All these Japanese Brands Ham Radios, Because of Their High Quality and Creativity, I have a ICOM ID52A and a Yeasu FT5D,
Thanks for the video, it really explained how the Icom networking was setup and the difference between the two type of network settings. I noticed that when you setup the FT9CN, network settings, you used the Icom address assigned by your home network (.118), I also tried my network dhcp assigned address, and it took me a couple minutes to figure out why it would not connect. Then on a lark, I used the .59.1 address of the icom network, and viola, it worked. It was also somewhat of a surprise that I did not find the app on Playstore, but had to sideload it, that was a whole new can of worms... Your video motivated me to try this, and its great... Thanks again...
Thank you for this video sir! I did thr same just via the bluetooth connection but was very annoying to keep hearing the FT8 noise in the phone. This solves the RF choke issue but it's hard to keep hearing the noise for too long 😅
Thanks for watching Hector! Regarding the sound in the phone, I thought you could just turn the phone's volume down, couldn't you? It should not affect the audio drive level as it' s regulated from the app. 73! Linas LY2H
Great video, thank you! I'll soon try this feature. This summer I'll go out with my IC705, and try some QRP POTA. Then this is a nice extra feature to do besides some old fashion talking with a microphone ;-) 73, Marco, PE3M
Thanks Marco! Hurry-up, it's almost mid-Summer! Have a good wx , hope to work you P2P, 73! Linas LY2H
Merci beaucoup pour ce tuto qui ma bien aidé pour la configuration de mon Icom
Bonne journée
Merci à vous aussi! Bcp des QSOs! 73! Linas LY2H
Great video and information
Obrigado Linas, excelente como sempre os teus vidios, o meu setup Icom 705/samsung S23 ja funciona 100%. 73
Obrigado! 73!
Great videos i would love to get you in the log I have learnt alot and starting to all the digital apps available for the phone.I learnt of an mt65 and others are available i havnt got a pc lol so apps all the way 73's
Thanks Andy! So let's be active on the air! CU! 73! Linas LY2H
Nice!
Have you tried this configuration with the app iFTx for iPhone?
Thanks for watching! As it comes to the iFTx , I'm afraid, this software does not allow to pair your iPhone with an IC-705 via bluetooth like a headset, nor to arrange a stream via the wi-fi, like in the FT8CN. But: the iFTx allows you to physically put the phone near the radio speaker/mike and have a sound/microphone link in this most simplistic way! I've tried it on many radios, it works, it's fun! :) 73! Linas LY2H
@@Linas_LY2H Linas, you are a HERO! After read the IC-705`s manual and did not understand I came again to this video and finally I was able to synchronize the iPhone with the IC-705!
Thank you so much!!!
Thanks for the video Sir. For me the only lag is it couldn't sync the time offgrid. Can i use any other app to sync it offgrid, when no internet available? (with phone's GPS) thank you, and go ahead with your videos!
Thanks for watching Sergio! Yes, it could be a problem to sync the time if you are in a total off-line situation, no wi-fi and no GSM data service. GPS certainly could be used to get the precise time , but I’m not sure which app could correct the time on the phone automatically. I like the GPS Tools app which gives multiple GPS-based services and the precise time among them, but it doesn’t seem like being able to correct the clock in the phone. But it displays, on a single screen, the UTC from the GPS and the local phone’s time. It’s easy to see the difference and make manual adjustment to the clock if the difference is big. If its a second or two, I think, it is possible to set the error offset manually within the FT8CN app’s settings under the “Sync” box. It’s not the ideal solution, but it may work. It wold be a great idea to use the built-in IC-705’s GPS service but I have yet to find the right app which could do that on the phone , in a similar way the BktTimeSync app does it on a PC. Anyway, there is good food for thought here ! 73! Linas LY2H
Thanks for the videos. Which antenna are you using? Got the 705 a few days back with the Comet HFJ-350M antenna and it's been a pain-in-d*ar@e trying to get that antenna to work. .. .. 73
Hello, thanks for watching! The antenna is a Buddistick vertical fixed to my back-pack, I speek about it at 00:30 time-code in the video. It tunes by the means of changing the coil tap. A one-wire counterpoise tailgating from the backpack is required for a normal work of the antenna. HTH, 73! Linas LY2H
Hi Linas, thanks for the video. I followed all the instructions (but to an Android Tablet), but I don't see anything transmitting on the radio. No power out on the radio or in-line meter. The app does show the QSO with my callsign, but nothing actually transmitting. Any suggestions please ? Thanks
Hi Martin, thanks for watching! Well, if you're sure your Android is connected wirelessly ( via Wi-Fi or via the Icom Hotspot) to the radio and you see the waterfall and stations decoded, then the first thing to check is the sound output level from the FT8CN. It's under a speaker icon on the right side of the FT8CN screen. The level should be such that it looks good on the IC-705 meter :) and there is no High ALC warning in the FT8CN app. Also, make sure all the sound settings within the tablet itself are enabled, etc. Else, restarting the app and the radio could be helpfull. HTH, 73! Linas LY2H
Really good Video...
Don't you also need to configure all the DATA MOD WLAN Settings also..??
So the Radio knows that Audio/Data is via WLAN, and not from DATA USB Cable..??
Hello, thanks for watching! Yes, this radio is really smart and it knows everything, as long as you set all the configurations for the radio and for the phone as it is described in the video. Running wireless, we, in fact, connect the invisible cable and establish the serial connection for data and audio between the radio and the phone. Just try it! Good luck! :) 73! Linas LY2H
@@Linas_LY2H
Hi Linas, Yes the Radio is smart...
But you still ned to set MOD INPUT WLAN, Not USB Cable
Normally you create a "Preset" for WLAN
I’ve been wondering if a phone’s personal hotspot could provide internet for D-Star 👍🏼 Can you also use an iPhone?
Hello, thanks for watching! As it is now, the FT8CN app is only designed to work on Android, no iPhone. As it comes to D-STAR, yes, I think the phone's hotspot could be used as a Wi-fi source , at the extent you need your radio to be connected to the internet, for the D-STAR or any other purpose. 73! Linas LY2H
@@Linas_LY2H 73!
What parts did you use for the antenna?
Hello Chris, it's a standard Buddistick with a shorter whip, except that the coil is slightly modified in order to have a sliding contact. 73! Linas LY2H
So what length is the bottom arm? 11 or 22 inch?
@@chrisherd991 It's 2X11"
Thank you Sir.
When I try to set Connection type in the FT8CN app, I get this message after entering the login information: "CIV stream: network transmission exception: sendto failed: EINVAL (Invalid argument)"
It’s very difficult to give a remote advice. I’m sure it’s all about settings, if you have it right, everything should work. I tried to recreate both types of Wi-Fi link anew on my IC-705 and my Huawei Android, following my own tutorial in the video :), and it worked, for me, each time. Perhaps, you forgot to restart your radio after making all the configuration changes? In the FT8CN app, is the radio chosen an IC-705 and the CI-V address is A4? Sometimes, small things create big problems :) Good luck, 73! Linas LY2H
Finally I have it working using Access Point mode! I must have managed to get all the settings correct because it connects successfully now with no wires!
@@fredburger3934 I have the same problem, but I don't know if the problem is with CI-V A4 or E0 or baud Tx in Android or in IC-705. I follow all the instruction correctly but I can't found any information about this. Thanks.
@@mauriciofariasfrias4961It won't work for me either now, I get that same error. In my opinion FT8CN is useless, it does not connect via WLAN to the 705 reliably. I'm not going to use it anymore. It worked one time but never again.
I finally discovered the problem, I had to put "forget this network" and register the SSID again. Keep the same parameter of this video.
Is there a way while operating, to silence the rx audio during operation to not annoy fellow pedestrians
Hi Steve! Yes , it is, if only fellow pedestrians were not already annoyed by you poking around with your telescoping antenna whip on your back-pack :) I usually, just turn my phone’s volume button down or up to the desired monitoring sound level. It does not affect the audio signal coming from the phone to the radio. If I do need to adjust the signal’s level (like too high ALC, etc), I use the speaker icon on the screen of the FT8CN app. Have fun! 73! LInas LY2H
@@Linas_LY2H Thankyou for the quick reply. I have mastered the connection and cat control including tx. I just can’t get the audio to get to the ic-705, I just hear it from the tablet speakers. Any hints?
@@steverish6623 In FT8CN, there is no separate settings for the soundcards. If you made all the settings correct in the app and on the radio and , after logging in to the radio from the FT8CN app, you here sound from your tablet speakers and sea the waterfall with stations decoded , it should automatically work on transmit too. Unless, you have the signal’s level from the FT8CN app to the radio turned down completely. You can check this by taping on the speaker icon on the right side of the screen and adjust the sound output slider to the best ALC on the radio. If all this set right and still no sound to the radio, may be it takes just to restart the tablet and the radio, it often helps. 73! Linas LY2H
Great video! Would you consider walking us thru using FT8CN with a HT and cable? Also, settings for QTH internet. I thought I had worked it out. Wrong😂. Help appears sparse. Any assistance is appreciated. 73 KN6WMS Doc.
Hello, thanks for watching! I've never tried working FT8 on a FM handheld radio, so I have no experience in this type of digital. Actually, I haven't heard many people would do that. Even if it should be possible technically, I see no point in doing that as transmitting the FT8 signal "piggy-backed" on a FM carrier would mean that only one station at a time can transmit on this FM frequency (channel). Normally, the FT8 signal is transmittet via the SSB transceiver ( including pn the VHF/UHF bands) which allows a great number of transmitting stations to fit in the 3kHz width of the same audio channel. But for some experimenting purposes, surely you can connect your handheld to the computer or a smartphone and feed the radio with an FT8 audio signal. The easiest, "wild" way is to use vox on the radio and play the FT8 signal from the FT8CN app through the smartphone's speaker. This would trigger the vox and the radio would transmit the FM signal with a sound of FT8. On receive ( if there is anybody else around answering your fm-ft8 call :)), you just keep the smartphone close to the speaker of the radio which plays someone's else ft8 transmission in FM and the smartphone's microphone catches the signal and the FT8CN app will certainly decode it :). In a more "civilised" way, you probably would want to employ an external soundcard modem like Digirig connected to the radio's Audio out/in and PTT lines and to the USB port on the computer or a smartphone ( via the OTG cable). Thanks again for an interesting question, 73! Linas LY2H
Is it possible on iPhone??
Hello, to my knowledge, it might be possible on iPhone if only you buy a special app "SDR Control for Icom". Please check my other video on this, if you wish:
SDR-Control for Icom. Full remote SSB, FT8 and CW from your iPad! Software review.
czcams.com/video/662li37X6n8/video.html
Naturally, newer versions of this software could be available. Have fun! 73! Linas LY2H
Brilliant video apart from those terrible video transitions! 73 M0XMX
Hi there where can I get this app.
Hi there, link in the description to this video. 73! Linas LY2H
Thank you for the great video. It is very helpful resource for the ham comunity. 73 de HB9HWY my friend. Slava Ukraini!
Yes, Victory to Ukraine!!!
Tell me, please, how do you synchronize the time? 73 de ER/UT1ZZ
Hello Andrew,
I try to explain this in the video, at ~14.25 min :) . It all comes to tapping on the Sync button in the FT8CN app. Your phone needs to be connected to the internet at that time. Actually, if your phone has a SIM card and is connected to the service provider network, and the settings in the phone are correct, the time probably would be set automatically via the NTP or similar. I noticed that sometimes it's not enough for the FT8, so extra syncing via the FT8CN, or, actually any other syncing app, is always good. So far, I have not figured it out yet if it would be possible to use the in-built IC-705 GPS service as it comes to the the Android. I think, it is not possible, only for the wired PC. May be, the FT8CN developers will come up with some more functionality in the later updates. HTH, 73! Linas LY2H
Nowhere - in no CZcams video anywhere - is it explained how I can export the log to ADIF format.
Gust ON6KE
Hello Gust! As I get it, in FT8CN , the logs could only be organized in the browser on any external computer or device. The app exports in ADIF already, no more conversion needed.
First, you need to click on the "QSO logs" tab in the FT8CN. When the internal log opens, you need to click on the top-left icon with the arrow in it . The pop-up window pops and tells you what to do next. It gives you an IP address which you need to enter into the browser of any computer being on the same wi-fi network as your FT8CN device. After done, you are in the internal website of the FT8CN app. From there you can choose what you wanna do with your logs, Export option among others. If you click on Export logs, the list of all the logs will open. Choose Download All or Download Unconfirmed , and the file with extention .adi will be downloaded to your external computer ( NOT the phone where your FT8CN sits). You may do whatever you want with this .adi file. HTH, have fun! 73! Linas LY2H
@@Linas_LY2H I'll give it a try Linas. Why are people making matters complicated when they don't have to be. Thank you, your info is much appreciated.
Gust ON6KE
I didn't fully understand what you were trying to explain to me at first but now I have it. I'm relieved, not having access to the log for updating in DXKeeper via import and from that to LoTW would mean me having no interest in going ahead with FT8CN. 73 es dx Gust ON6KE
hi linus, another great and very informative video. It looks very complicated for me, I still struggle to send emails properly from my mobile phone hi hi. 73 my friend. zl3xdj.
Thanks Brian! CU on the air! 73! Linas LY2H
@@Linas_LY2H I had cw qso's up your way on 20m earlier this evening. 73
The video is really precise and well explained, I carefully followed all your instructions, but when logging in I get an "invalid ......" error message. If I find your email, I'll send you the video recorded on your Smartphone during login from the app. 73 de I5EKX Alex.
Thanks for your email Alex with the short video of your problem. I’ve sent an email back to you. Let me know if you solved the problem. 73! Linas LY2H