Meh like mentioned when you reside in an area where it snows 3 or 4 months of the year you get used to it. Can't just not do anything for 3 months until the warmer weather comes back. Plus snow driving is fun as hell. I'm sure he has a blast in his awd subaru in the snow up there
I just discovered you on here a few days ago, the more of your vids I watch, the more I like you. You put these subs through the tests. Appreciate everything you are doing. Thanks
I just blew a 6.5" K9 on the 1st day! But it wasn't actually blown, the Surrounds on half of the subwoofer came undone. I glued them with some E6000 and it's playing just fine now. Only thing is when I play hard core Low HZ for a song or two the whole car starts to smell like glue. Other than that it pounds.
Yessir. I have a bunch of subs I wish I could do demos on but I work and run a small shop here in Orlando so I don't have much time but I'm glad your channel is growing much respect to you
@@AlexGarcia-xs9qo I have a Rockville amp and have no complaints with it. It seems to do rated, no overheating or protect and I let that thing pound for at least a couple of hours a day.
I have the d2 version of this sub wired to 1 ohm on an Orion XTR2500. It's in a 2.8 cu/ft box with an 8in port tuned to 29Hz taking 45 volts (that's 2,025w) on music, and has been for 5 months. And I play my music LOUD.
Great job on all the videos man. Your channel has taught me alot and is the reason I decided to give the bdc4 12's a chance and I've been happy with them so far. You should consider building and buying more boxes and show everyone the difference between sealed, ported and bandpass... like when you review a sub you could play it in different boxes and see the difference. Plus I like box building vids lol. Just a thought. Keep up the good work.
Skar actually makes some really decent prefab boxes. Good quality for reasonable price. With the price of wood these days it would likely cost just as much or more to build one. Of course if you need a certain volume, you may not fine one prefab and have no choice but to make your own. For most people putting one or two subs in their daily driver, it shouldn't be too hard to find a prefab box that is very close in spec to what the manufacturer of your sub recommends
Continous Program Peak are the three ratings and used by larger speaker manufactures of PA equipment(JBL,Peavey etc). Rockville started out as Audio Savings selling P/A equipment. Its not incorrect or weird. Its just a different way of doing it. These types of systems generally deal with uncompressed music so there are more peaks. Not like the pre recorded music played through most car stereo's which is generally heavy compressed in recording and mastering So with the 3 ratings, the idea is you get an amp that is the program rating, knowing that you have a little extra head room to handle short peaks without clipping to, deal with live(program material) less than ideally compressed music. But you can't pump a continuous sin wave at the program rating it will/should not last long. This also ensures you always have clean power, to extract max long term performance but if abused, enough power to damage or push things out of their happy operating ranges into that realm of failure. BTW I have never heard of anyone using the peak numbers any where but in the marketing department Edit- the reason you see car and home use rms(continuous) and peak(program) is they play mastered music. Which do not have those un mastered peaks to deal with so the over all levels can be pushed higher. So its ideal to suggest a less powerful amp, so they use a different rating system. I hope that makes sense.
Thank you for that explanation! If they are going to make subs for car audio they should get on board with how the rest for the industry rates car audio stuff so it doesn't confuse people. Unfortunately people new to the car audio world see that leak power rating and get excited not knowing the subs won't handle that continuesly. It's kinda shady and ALOT of manufacturers do it, not just rockville. Again the explanation was awesome!! You rock.
I don't see how it confuses anyone, they are very clear in their own explanation to the way they use the 3 ratings and it made perfect sense to me, i actually got exactly what this guy got out of their explanation
I have a rockville punisher 10” i messed it up.i bought some lord of bass parts and reconed it and made it a 15” and it will straight get down with it.😂i need to do a video and see if i can get some hits on it.its not the greatest glue job but it gets down .sounds really good.
Hey Parker I bought one of those subs a few months ago and it was wired to a power acoustik va1 8000D amp at 1ohm and I liked it so much I bought another one for my hyundal tiburon and I was not disappointed! It slaps hard with 2 subs wired to 2ohms! The gain is only at about 30% and my rearview mirror moves when the bass hits!
Broke mine and on about 1600 watt RMS slowly over two-month period of time then switch to 3123rms clamped to try to kill it.almost 2yrs later still going strong.that 7k burst was cool.not bad for a cheap sub
Great video! I think it would be cool if you did the Rockville destroyer and see how it stacks up in comparison video to see what the verdict is on is it worth the extra money and your personal opinion, etc.
Thanks for the test. Couple of observations: 1) The BL loss / power compression seems quite bad.... 137dB @ ~400W to 143dB @ ~6000W.... you would expect a 6dB gain at ~1600W, not 6000W. 2) As for the RMS, as the name implies you need to look at the mean value. The test tone at 1400W is exactly what you need to test this as with music you are probably averaging less than 1/3 of that.
Love the way he test subs he test them like they are suppose to be tested with music not test tones at 5000 watts we know it's not going to last like that for over a minute or two great job on the test bro
i will say that i wished he used a better song with a more consistent bass note. like xlr, the song he plays with the slow changing bass notes. he would be able to keep it a lot more consistent that way
You gotta know what your buying. Everyone knows by now rockville is a good brand as long as you don't expect them to do rated power. If your looking for something that does that look at sundown, Fosgate, Kicker, etc. Parker love the videos. Maybe Rockville will listen and rate their stuff appropriately and make some small tweaks that could make a big difference. Keep up the good work my dude!!
I'd really be curious to see you test the SoundQubed HDS3.2 12. I had 2 of the HDS3.1 12'S and they were VERY under rated, could handle wayyyyyy more than what they were rated for!
Hey would love to see a test on the Rovkville destroyer. Im thinking about getting one so an unbiased review would def help me out. Thanks for doin what you do man !!
I might be a car audio snob, but after spending 10 years of so after high school working as a car stereo shop manager and installer starting in the mid 90’s, I had my hands on stuff from just about every amp and sub brand that was around after the 80’s, and it was usually super easy to tell which products or entire brands to completely avoid no matter how cheap. I’ve always maintained the rule that with car audio gear you get what you pay for. 5000 watt amps for 150.00 are crap if they even get close.
Same in the 80’s and 90’s if we needed 5k watt amp “good clean power” we was paying $1 a watt. I had 2 DD 18’s 9900 series, old school ones with 4 Memphis Mojos. I probably had $15k and that was on the cheap side being I worked at a shop/DD DEALER.
Decent. I would change the terminals out. I do like the easy to buy re-cones. I didn't jump on one for the holiday sale. I will snatch one up if they re-stock up. I like testing these inexpensive SPL copycats. Gotta love these overseas build houses!
I'm running a Punisher 15D1 on a Skar 1500 watt RMS amp, and it's handling it like a champ. No problem! Had to replace my rear window because it shattered lmao! I feel like this sub could probably handle 2,000 watts just fine, but nothing over.
Rockville doesn't have weird ratings. You just have to know what the ratings mean. The 2800 is a number compared to a non cea rated BS company like Boss, Power Acoustic or Pyle. The CEA rating is for less than 1% distortion. Its comparable to Kicker, Alpine, Rockford, etc. Its a way of showing you a range of where the speaker can play. Thats why they rate their products like that.
Kenfolk you in the snow. No way the sub getting hot as it would down south. It's worth the 💰. It takes power, thats is all I care about. Good vid bro. MASSIVE MY FAV AND SUNDOWN.
I was thinking of getting 2 of these to replace my k9v215. Sub hasnt givin me any issue and for the price its all i can ask for regardless of all the drama behind that sub. Thanks for the vid
@@johndough4338 definitely. Even though audiopipe definitely has a better reputation than rockville im not disappointed with my k9 at all. Theres power handling difference between them so it just depends on what you want. Im running mine on the rxd m4 rockville amp and its been about a year now with no issues and i turn it up max alot lol
@@kiingmello ...I do understand the drama you referring to about the k9. But like some people said, they are a newer company that made a few mistakes in the beginning. As long as they made a effort to change & correct things, that's all that matters to me, and why I'm here asking you your opinion. And I really appreciate you getting back with me also. I'm not really a fan boy of any brand. I actually believe in follow the model number of something. For example, just because a 5 k sundown amp may be a great amp, doesn't mean the 6k version of that Same amp is going to have the same reliability as the previous model. I believe in following the model number of a product, and checking out the history and the reputation of it, and then see how it all end up.
Yes I would definitely buy this sub... everyone does not have 1 dollar per rms wattage we are asked to pay these days your test was very pleasing . Thank you for you tests that you do.. they are very informative. Keep up the good work bro . Appreciate you
Can you do a shootout video of $150 subs in same price range and do the same exact tests on all of them? Same power tests and same songs? That would be fun!
Review a sundown E series please. It’s budget friendly which fits your channel and always see these mentioned in thread recommendations but few reviews.
Just installed two 10s in a 1.6cube box tuned to 34hz and they're already hitting 118db on just 500watts or only 250 each sub. (break in wattage). I wasn't expecting them to slap on such a low wattage, hopefully they scream when I open them up 2-3k. Excellent budget sub at only $150 each
That's exactly what it is, between 900 and 1200 watts, they should just advertise real numbers or a little under, 150 bucks us still a good deal for a 1000 watt amo with a 3 inch coil.
I actually looked into buying 2 of these cause of the Punisher name. I’ve got a blacked out mountaineer with a punisher skull of the roof and thought they’d be cool to have. I have 2 Rockville amps and one was great the other was junk. They do honor their warranty well though. I blew an amp and they replaced it no questions asked.
As far as I have heard they are actually a very loud sub that puts in work and that's from people who actually ran them and proof is in the pudding......
@@ericweller4509 they sound fantastic, I'm running 4 off a Wolfram o 5000 not even pushing nearly the power cuz i need a couple of batteries, but my wife and son heard me from the middle of the parking lot to in mall. Nowhere near full tilt maybe 1/4 power of amp and only turned up to 13 out of 30 on volume
@@ericweller4509 I heard after running them for about a week straight at 75% it starts to sound like you are stepping on dry cereal or like pouring milk and two rice crispies they snap they crackle then they eventually pop LMFAO
You should find one designated spot in the kick for those test. I have seen that meter all over the floor. Gonna get different readings that way. Like the videos keep up the good work.
@Parker Dacchille Could you do the 150-199 comparison of this Rockville punisher vs other brands around 150-199 to see how Rockville stacks up against those priced subs
Harmony audio monoliths are beast great subs I had the 18s and want to put them in my new vehicle they are cheap and I put alot of rms to them and still hang no smell no noise need a big box though my audiopipe I put in a 5 foot cubic sounded good my harmony audio monolith 18 hit the bottom and needed more space but amazing subs
Thank y'all. In this day and age, I just figured that there had to be some info on these subs some where. I couldn't find shit. I found a few reviews but nothing substantial. I'm not the kinda guy who spends his hard earned money on things I know nothing about. Before I buy something, I wanna make sure it's what I'm looking for and it's worth my time and money. I'm not trying to win any comps. I just want nice, hard hitting, clean bass. I can't make up my mind on which sub I want. I have everything else. I just need the sub. I've narrowed it down to like, 5 subs. Seismic Audio 12", American Bass XR 12", Savard Hi Q 12", Resilient Sounds Gold 12" and the Harmony Audio Monolith12". I think I'm just gonna say fuck it, and pick out of a hat or some shit. Also, I'm just gonna start my own youtube channel and test everything, every which way I can. Thanks for the info y'all. Appreciate ya. Lemme know yallz opinions on the 5 subs I narrowed down to!! Also, I built a sealed box and the sub is seeing exactly 2.0 cubic feet. Well actually it's like 2.0134 but, close enough. I'm thinking about building a new box to maximize the SQ potential. Bandpass, ported, 4th order or 6th order. It don't matter. I can build anything. I just wanna know which one would be best???
@@calebwiley998 Yes, I know they are still around but you'd be extremely lucky to find one at the original price if at all. They have been maked up alot or only have the SPL model available.
I have the 12” 2 ohm version on the Rockville 8000 watt amp. I get a strange smell from them after a few minutes of play. It’s not a burning smell but more of a warm plastic or warm glue smell. I’m was told this was normal for new subs but wasn’t sure.
I like test like this. This is the way you should test subs. On music. I don't like the way they rate their subs but their cea rating is based on the power of the amp. 1400 watt rating will be a 1400 watt amp. And chances are it will never see that 1400 watts from a amp rated that much cause of impedance rise. I personally wouldn't buy Rockville subs but this model seems to be way better.
Thinking about getting a pair of these. Still fairly new in this game, but im learning more every day. Im old school tho, (kid of the 80s-90s) so i was bliwn away when i got back in a couple years ago lol. Back then u had to know a guy, who knew someone that worked at the only stereo shop around. Got a kicker 15" cvr now but wanna get alot louder, and drive a sentra so dnt have much room
If u go look at g2 dynamics basket they use on genesys there sub has 24 or 28mm of xmax and that Rockville has the same basket so u nvr know the xmax could be in the 20s they have same spider size so who knows it flexes good tho
Please review a Fi sub.. they're inexpensive for the high quality due to the 1-2 month wait time. Heck maybe they'll send u a sub to test! (if u ask'em to)
I highly doubt they'll send him a sub to test. All of their subs are built-to-order. I run Fi and Synergy Audio. Before Covid, it took 2 weeks to get in my first 18. During Covid, it was 49 days. Definitely worth the wait.
I read that the g2 genesys and punisher is basically the same subwoofer. Built in the same place in china. But the punisher is half the price. Just some minor cosmetic differences.
Still love the look of that sundown x series though. My box is tuned to 32 also Always wondered how they would have worked out for me instead of my dual American Bass HD 12s which I absolutely love as well. Might have to try them out someday. #firstworldproblems lol.
I've had an sa12 at 800watts for a while now, and while it doesn't hit super low it gets down to around 30hz pretty good, and you can still hear bass pretty well at 24hz, but no where near as loud. I might get 2 15s lol
@@super1337spy ... That'll work. Yeah I like the deep bass. Bass you can feel. I'm just stressing on getting the x. Or zv5. Big difference in price not sure if it's a big difference in performance.
Love your videos buddy ... keep up the good work and like someone else said test the harmony audio monolith .. that ti style basket and the hefty motor looks promising!
cool vids, been subbed. Sooo i can't help but feel like they rated it for Amp-Matching purposes for people that would buy a sub at this price. as in less electrical, maybe a 2800watt amp that does slightly less to the sub. on the other end, your amp and electrical allow you to whack it with a Full 3400 for how long, while expecting no smell. just my opinion.
Hello! TY for ALL your videos! I saw this Budget Bass Basher on Amazonia and found your review by proxy. Thinking this would be a cheap way to show some kids around the block what an old school EarthQuake PHD5000W-grey can do when compared to a recent 5000w monoblock class D amp! The old school will definitely rule when hooked to my Phoenix Gold Alternator! Anyways, a better understanding of "Program" or "PGM" = We all have heard PGM described as follows: A speaker's "program" rating is the maximum amount of peak power it can safely handle in short bursts. It's almost always twice the "continuous" rating. For example, a speaker rated for 400 watts continuous power would be rated for 800 watts program power. Here is a better description to get better understanding: ☆The "program" rating is also known as the "music" power rating. It's a higher rating because music has many peaks and dips and is not as abusive as a continuous signal. ☆ ☆The ideal setup is where the amp's RMS rating is around the speaker's program rating. This lets the amp's peak wattage approach the peak wattage of the speaker when in the particular cabinet chosen. Program watt ratings are used heavily when setting up a P.A. rig, where musical peaks are prevalent and single test and competition tones are not used.....much. With a musical rating given Peavy suggests an amplifier that can achieve 65 to 85% of the PGM rating while keeping the amplifier channel gains at 2/3rds of the amp's maximum output giving your P.A. the cleanest sounding music reproduction but still giving your sound system the ability to peak terrific DB when needed 😉! Seems odd for a Car Audio company to include PGM ratings when looking at it from a competitive veiwpoint, but from a musically oriented standpoint PGM gives the user a better chance at reaching their audiophile-ish goals (even though I would never call a speaker with a sensitivity of 85 an audiophile quality speaker! l😂
@@ParkerTheBasshead ... Parker, please tell me, which you like between the destroyer, the skar zvx, and the American bass hd. From the top to bottom, which order would you put them in from greater to least?
The Rockville is also half the price of the sundown. If Rockville would just honestly rate their stuff I think they would be doing really well... I ran one of their k6 15s for a while. For the price you can't complain (I think I paid 70 bucks for it) but it definitely wasn't 1,200 watts rms. I gave it 600 and started to smell coil. I ran it on about 450 for 6 months with no issues though, and it actually sounded great. So if I were looking for budget gear... I might go with Rockville, just cut the ratings by about 2/3 lol
@@jase1911 I'm not looking for budget gear but if I were it definitely wouldn't be kicker. I would buy high end kicker however. If I truly wanted budget gear I'd go with Skar though
CEA doesn't have any standards for subs or anything other than amplifiers..... so it truely doesn't matter, cea ces cia ctt cdc..... Just FYI. Rockville makes a gaggle of products, It is Audiosavings house brand as NVX is to sonicelectronix.
Damn, that is actually surprising it survived the higher rating which is obviously exaggerated a 🤏 bit and yes you can see that there is some type of a coating painted over the coils but it just is not as dark as say sundowns black hi-temp coating... Overall I don't think it is a terrible sub for the money but I personally would not run Rockville ever myself... Then again I'm currently building two Deaf Bonce apocalypse DB3515's on a Wolfram AW-9000.1D for my yukon denali I cannot wait this amp is BEAST at half an ohm 💪🔈🔈💪
Making videos out in the snow? That’s dedication. You’re a stud my guy
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When you from an area that snows it doesn't phase you.
HE’S A BOSS !!!
@@loonertic7337 what kind of videos do you have I may subscribe
Meh like mentioned when you reside in an area where it snows 3 or 4 months of the year you get used to it. Can't just not do anything for 3 months until the warmer weather comes back. Plus snow driving is fun as hell. I'm sure he has a blast in his awd subaru in the snow up there
I just discovered you on here a few days ago, the more of your vids I watch, the more I like you. You put these subs through the tests. Appreciate everything you are doing. Thanks
Hey if Rockville wants to learn from their mistakes and step their game up. Im all for it. I was impressed this time around. Keep it up!
Running 4 on a Wolfram o 5000, love them
I just blew a 6.5" K9 on the 1st day! But it wasn't actually blown, the Surrounds on half of the subwoofer came undone. I glued them with some E6000 and it's playing just fine now. Only thing is when I play hard core Low HZ for a song or two the whole car starts to smell like glue. Other than that it pounds.
Wow you put her through the ringer with some serious power! As always thank you for the review bud!
Good job Parker keep up the good work bro. We need people like you to do unbiased demos on subs not like some of the other people out there.
I really appreciate you!!
Yessir. I have a bunch of subs I wish I could do demos on but I work and run a small shop here in Orlando so I don't have much time but I'm glad your channel is growing much respect to you
I agree!
I feel like some people on here test rockville and blow them on purpose just to give them a bad name. I appreciate your honest unbiased review.
@@dontaethompson7833 what shop
The smell off the sub getting hot goes away after a while. I really am happy with the sub after the few months I've had it.
rockville loving them
@@AlexGarcia-xs9qo I have a Rockville amp and have no complaints with it. It seems to do rated, no overheating or protect and I let that thing pound for at least a couple of hours a day.
How them rockvilles holding
I have the d2 version of this sub wired to 1 ohm on an Orion XTR2500. It's in a 2.8 cu/ft box with an 8in port tuned to 29Hz taking 45 volts (that's 2,025w) on music, and has been for 5 months. And I play my music LOUD.
My husband and I agree. We may get this exact sub
The center hole is the "pole venting" and tge drilled holes are "voice coil gap venting".. Just to help keep the content more accurate in the future.
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"Tge" Devil's in the details
@ no name Yea at least don't misspell while trying to correct someone else.
Great job on all the videos man. Your channel has taught me alot and is the reason I decided to give the bdc4 12's a chance and I've been happy with them so far. You should consider building and buying more boxes and show everyone the difference between sealed, ported and bandpass... like when you review a sub you could play it in different boxes and see the difference. Plus I like box building vids lol. Just a thought. Keep up the good work.
Great idea, cause as we can see he can build a box
Skar actually makes some really decent prefab boxes. Good quality for reasonable price. With the price of wood these days it would likely cost just as much or more to build one. Of course if you need a certain volume, you may not fine one prefab and have no choice but to make your own. For most people putting one or two subs in their daily driver, it shouldn't be too hard to find a prefab box that is very close in spec to what the manufacturer of your sub recommends
I like bandpass boxes. Can you send me a link for a good bandpass box for one 12
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D4S has some good deals on their flat packed pro fab boxes !!
They just released a new model bcd5 five stack homie 😅
Continous Program Peak are the three ratings and used by larger speaker manufactures of PA equipment(JBL,Peavey etc). Rockville started out as Audio Savings selling P/A equipment. Its not incorrect or weird. Its just a different way of doing it. These types of systems generally deal with uncompressed music so there are more peaks. Not like the pre recorded music played through most car stereo's which is generally heavy compressed in recording and mastering
So with the 3 ratings, the idea is you get an amp that is the program rating, knowing that you have a little extra head room to handle short peaks without clipping to, deal with live(program material) less than ideally compressed music. But you can't pump a continuous sin wave at the program rating it will/should not last long. This also ensures you always have clean power, to extract max long term performance but if abused, enough power to damage or push things out of their happy operating ranges into that realm of failure.
BTW I have never heard of anyone using the peak numbers any where but in the marketing department
Edit- the reason you see car and home use rms(continuous) and peak(program) is they play mastered music. Which do not have those un mastered peaks to deal with so the over all levels can be pushed higher. So its ideal to suggest a less powerful amp, so they use a different rating system. I hope that makes sense.
Thank you for that explanation! If they are going to make subs for car audio they should get on board with how the rest for the industry rates car audio stuff so it doesn't confuse people. Unfortunately people new to the car audio world see that leak power rating and get excited not knowing the subs won't handle that continuesly. It's kinda shady and ALOT of manufacturers do it, not just rockville. Again the explanation was awesome!! You rock.
I don't see how it confuses anyone, they are very clear in their own explanation to the way they use the 3 ratings and it made perfect sense to me, i actually got exactly what this guy got out of their explanation
I have a rockville punisher 10” i messed it up.i bought some lord of bass parts and reconed it and made it a 15” and it will straight get down with it.😂i need to do a video and see if i can get some hits on it.its not the greatest glue job but it gets down .sounds really good.
Hey Parker I bought one of those subs a few months ago and it was wired to a power acoustik va1 8000D amp at 1ohm and I liked it so much I bought another one for my hyundal tiburon and I was not disappointed! It slaps hard with 2 subs wired to 2ohms! The gain is only at about 30% and my rearview mirror moves when the bass hits!
Broke mine and on about 1600 watt RMS slowly over two-month period of time then switch to 3123rms clamped to try to kill it.almost 2yrs later still going strong.that 7k burst was cool.not bad for a cheap sub
Thanks for all the content I bought my punisher because of your vids and it's been doing great
How's your punisher doing?
@@mobboss715 it's going strong fully broke in now and still hasn't gotten really hot and I've tried to get it to smell but it just won't
Okay thanks for the info
@@albertporter5024 is it still going good?
@@501Hog yep still beatin
Great video! I think it would be cool if you did the Rockville destroyer and see how it stacks up in comparison video to see what the verdict is on is it worth the extra money and your personal opinion, etc.
Same here !
Thanks for the test. Couple of observations: 1) The BL loss / power compression seems quite bad.... 137dB @ ~400W to 143dB @ ~6000W.... you would expect a 6dB gain at ~1600W, not 6000W. 2) As for the RMS, as the name implies you need to look at the mean value. The test tone at 1400W is exactly what you need to test this as with music you are probably averaging less than 1/3 of that.
That sub is clearly not in the ideal enclosure..but still took 7k down the throat. $150 sub..damn!!!
Love the way he test subs he test them like they are suppose to be tested with music not test tones at 5000 watts we know it's not going to last like that for over a minute or two great job on the test bro
i will say that i wished he used a better song with a more consistent bass note. like xlr, the song he plays with the slow changing bass notes. he would be able to keep it a lot more consistent that way
You gotta know what your buying. Everyone knows by now rockville is a good brand as long as you don't expect them to do rated power. If your looking for something that does that look at sundown, Fosgate, Kicker, etc. Parker love the videos. Maybe Rockville will listen and rate their stuff appropriately and make some small tweaks that could make a big difference. Keep up the good work my dude!!
I’m over the Rockville drama. There are a lot worse brands out there.
Pyle not too bad 😅
@@gerardmccray407 U wrong
@@RealMaxton 😂
Never forget Dual
@@robertdenro9348 the real walmart subs 😅
I'd really be curious to see you test the SoundQubed HDS3.2 12. I had 2 of the HDS3.1 12'S and they were VERY under rated, could handle wayyyyyy more than what they were rated for!
Nice to see Rockville stepping up their game.
Hey would love to see a test on the Rovkville destroyer. Im thinking about getting one so an unbiased review would def help me out. Thanks for doin what you do man !!
Damn. rockville is stepping up their game.. finally
Man their pa equipment is pretty sweet. I have 4 powered speakers and a powered sub and they get wicked lol
@@jbrumfield6090 nice
@@basslover666 they are that. Great price point 2. Whole pa for under 1k. I use it for vocals
@@jbrumfield6090 I have their PA 15's set up for home theater. It slams.
@@GetFuktPriusOwners yea man I imagine so. Lol
I might be a car audio snob, but after spending 10 years of so after high school working as a car stereo shop manager and installer starting in the mid 90’s, I had my hands on stuff from just about every amp and sub brand that was around after the 80’s, and it was usually super easy to tell which products or entire brands to completely avoid no matter how cheap. I’ve always maintained the rule that with car audio gear you get what you pay for. 5000 watt amps for 150.00 are crap if they even get close.
Same in the 80’s and 90’s if we needed 5k watt amp “good clean power” we was paying $1 a watt. I had 2 DD 18’s 9900 series, old school ones with 4 Memphis Mojos. I probably had $15k and that was on the cheap side being I worked at a shop/DD DEALER.
I would love to see you do the new ds18 high excursion subs. Supposedly 30+mm one way for low power. Not a ds18 fan myself but they caught my eye here
For off-the-shelf China junk I am not impressed with ds18 prices. There amp pricing is ridiculous also
Decent. I would change the terminals out. I do like the easy to buy re-cones. I didn't jump on one for the holiday sale. I will snatch one up if they re-stock up. I like testing these inexpensive SPL copycats. Gotta love these overseas build houses!
I'm running a Punisher 15D1 on a Skar 1500 watt RMS amp, and it's handling it like a champ. No problem! Had to replace my rear window because it shattered lmao! I feel like this sub could probably handle 2,000 watts just fine, but nothing over.
Love how you propper test subs and explain about your findings love the video it a good 12" sub to take that power💪
Rockville doesn't have weird ratings. You just have to know what the ratings mean. The 2800 is a number compared to a non cea rated BS company like Boss, Power Acoustic or Pyle. The CEA rating is for less than 1% distortion. Its comparable to Kicker, Alpine, Rockford, etc. Its a way of showing you a range of where the speaker can play. Thats why they rate their products like that.
Kenfolk you in the snow. No way the sub getting hot as it would down south. It's worth the 💰. It takes power, thats is all I care about. Good vid bro. MASSIVE MY FAV AND SUNDOWN.
Awesome test, this is a great sub for the money. For those that want a pounding subwoofer for only $169.00 at Amazon, this is the one.
I was thinking of getting 2 of these to replace my k9v215. Sub hasnt givin me any issue and for the price its all i can ask for regardless of all the drama behind that sub. Thanks for the vid
Hey I know someone that's looking for 2 k9 v2 15's
@@clintrichardson8236 well i only have 1 but they are still available on rockvilleaudio.com for $140 a peice.
@@kiingmello ...do you think the k9 subs are comparing to the audiopipe bd2 subs?
@@johndough4338 definitely. Even though audiopipe definitely has a better reputation than rockville im not disappointed with my k9 at all. Theres power handling difference between them so it just depends on what you want. Im running mine on the rxd m4 rockville amp and its been about a year now with no issues and i turn it up max alot lol
@@kiingmello ...I do understand the drama you referring to about the k9. But like some people said, they are a newer company that made a few mistakes in the beginning. As long as they made a effort to change & correct things, that's all that matters to me, and why I'm here asking you your opinion. And I really appreciate you getting back with me also. I'm not really a fan boy of any brand. I actually believe in follow the model number of something. For example, just because a 5 k sundown amp may be a great amp, doesn't mean the 6k version of that Same amp is going to have the same reliability as the previous model. I believe in following the model number of a product, and checking out the history and the reputation of it, and then see how it all end up.
Yes I would definitely buy this sub... everyone does not have 1 dollar per rms wattage we are asked to pay these days your test was very pleasing . Thank you for you tests that you do.. they are very informative. Keep up the good work bro . Appreciate you
Its just hard to spend 150 for this sub when the American Bass Elite is 144.
Agreed!!
Where?
@@kevinmontoya7318 it isnt no more but it was when this video came out!
Some companies exaggerate, but did what was expected, budget sub
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@@loonertic7337 ok
Another good video Parker your turning into one of the best bass heads on CZcams 🤟
I was surprised how well it did also for 150 dollars not bad man!
Can you do a shootout video of $150 subs in same price range and do the same exact tests on all of them? Same power tests and same songs? That would be fun!
My sub had the black aluminum voice coil with black glue its one of their 2023 batches
Once again: Awsome video!
Cool if you could try Ground Zero subwoofers!
I'm rewatching this because I love your vids bro
Review a sundown E series please. It’s budget friendly which fits your channel and always see these mentioned in thread recommendations but few reviews.
Yeah, I too want to see it's refiew and comparison with the xfl series
I like the sundown e10 d4 they sound great
Just installed two 10s in a 1.6cube box tuned to 34hz and they're already hitting 118db on just 500watts or only 250 each sub. (break in wattage).
I wasn't expecting them to slap on such a low wattage, hopefully they scream when I open them up 2-3k.
Excellent budget sub at only $150 each
You got the rockville version 2, they fix the coil glue issue
The 2800wrms rating is for the recommended amplifier output at rms and not the rms of the subwoofer!
Damn..took that 2800..WOW!!!
But..they really just need to stop with the crazy ratings! Looks like one bad azzzzz 1000 watt RMS subwoofer!
That's exactly what it is, between 900 and 1200 watts, they should just advertise real numbers or a little under, 150 bucks us still a good deal for a 1000 watt amo with a 3 inch coil.
I actually looked into buying 2 of these cause of the Punisher name. I’ve got a blacked out mountaineer with a punisher skull of the roof and thought they’d be cool to have. I have 2 Rockville amps and one was great the other was junk. They do honor their warranty well though. I blew an amp and they replaced it no questions asked.
As far as I have heard they are actually a very loud sub that puts in work and that's from people who actually ran them and proof is in the pudding......
But how do they sound?
@@ericweller4509 they sound fantastic, I'm running 4 off a Wolfram o 5000 not even pushing nearly the power cuz i need a couple of batteries, but my wife and son heard me from the middle of the parking lot to in mall. Nowhere near full tilt maybe 1/4 power of amp and only turned up to 13 out of 30 on volume
@@ericweller4509 I heard after running them for about a week straight at 75% it starts to sound like you are stepping on dry cereal or like pouring milk and two rice crispies they snap they crackle then they eventually pop LMFAO
I love my Rockville subs, I'd like to see some other cheap budget subs like Boss audio
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Man I'm still violently beating my k6s everyday I've been putting a little over rms power to them for over a year not a problem
Glad to see you have your own spot now man! Keep doing your thing! Bravo!
Black covered copper glue means this. Aluminum wire coated with a copper coller. Scraps off like so easy
You should find one designated spot in the kick for those test. I have seen that meter all over the floor. Gonna get different readings that way.
Like the videos keep up the good work.
Lol Rockville for the win !!! 150$ keep it around 1000watts rms and you got a nice banger
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I have 2 12 inch punishers and 4000 watts pushing them and it absolutely beats my subaru to death. I love my build.
I have a punisher 10 it does way better than I had expected
Any plans to test the American Bass Titan?
@Parker Dacchille Could you do the 150-199 comparison of this Rockville punisher vs other brands around 150-199 to see how Rockville stacks up against those priced subs
There is already a best sub for under $150 where the Rockville K9 does great. The Punisher 12 is also under $150.
@@alvinmiller6675 the punisher 12s are 179.00 now but still worth it, running 4 on a Wolfram o 5000 and love them
What about Harmony Audio Monoliths and Warzone 12's?? Also I've never seen anyone test the Pioneer TSW1200 PRO'S.
the tsw1200's are great when you need something efficient and accurate . they are not made for extended lows or anything crazy .
Harmony audio monoliths are beast great subs I had the 18s and want to put them in my new vehicle they are cheap and I put alot of rms to them and still hang no smell no noise need a big box though my audiopipe I put in a 5 foot cubic sounded good my harmony audio monolith 18 hit the bottom and needed more space but amazing subs
@@mazda2284 you should do a video on them......., please
Thank y'all. In this day and age, I just figured that there had to be some info on these subs some where. I couldn't find shit. I found a few reviews but nothing substantial. I'm not the kinda guy who spends his hard earned money on things I know nothing about. Before I buy something, I wanna make sure it's what I'm looking for and it's worth my time and money. I'm not trying to win any comps. I just want nice, hard hitting, clean bass. I can't make up my mind on which sub I want. I have everything else. I just need the sub. I've narrowed it down to like, 5 subs. Seismic Audio 12", American Bass XR 12", Savard Hi Q 12", Resilient Sounds Gold 12" and the Harmony Audio Monolith12". I think I'm just gonna say fuck it, and pick out of a hat or some shit. Also, I'm just gonna start my own youtube channel and test everything, every which way I can. Thanks for the info y'all. Appreciate ya. Lemme know yallz opinions on the 5 subs I narrowed down to!! Also, I built a sealed box and the sub is seeing exactly 2.0 cubic feet. Well actually it's like 2.0134 but, close enough. I'm thinking about building a new box to maximize the SQ potential. Bandpass, ported, 4th order or 6th order. It don't matter. I can build anything. I just wanna know which one would be best???
Parker you should review the Orion hcca 12
Discontinued
@@DaSpecimenFL you can still order them and get them my buddy just got one
@@calebwiley998 Yes, I know they are still around but you'd be extremely lucky to find one at the original price if at all. They have been maked up alot or only have the SPL model available.
@@calebwiley998 if he just got one at regular price can you please find out where bc I will literally buy one today.
I have the 12” 2 ohm version on the Rockville 8000 watt amp. I get a strange smell from them after a few minutes of play. It’s not a burning smell but more of a warm plastic or warm glue smell. I’m was told this was normal for new subs but wasn’t sure.
Yeah a lot of subs will get a glue smell when they are new. If I start to smell it I just turn them down some
Would like you to review seismic audio GF line. Cheap enough and if you believe their specs, should be a budget banger
Thanks, I just bought 2 of the punisher 12's d1..
With 2 15" punisher am very very happy with them with 2- 8000watt rockvill 1ohm amps 🎉
For the price those sub's really are good.
I like test like this. This is the way you should test subs. On music. I don't like the way they rate their subs but their cea rating is based on the power of the amp. 1400 watt rating will be a 1400 watt amp. And chances are it will never see that 1400 watts from a amp rated that much cause of impedance rise. I personally wouldn't buy Rockville subs but this model seems to be way better.
No body else has a subwoofer that price that can hang ! You definitely have to spend ALOT more!!!
Facts
Skar ddx 🤷♂️
@@bangin_dubjay it's a little more!!! And I'd be willing to go half o the sub to be tested!
audio pipe bdc4, a lil more money but goes way lower , more excursion, and not overrated
Great video, for 1400 rms and the price point seems to be good, you make awesome vids bro
I just got 2 punisher 8”s seems a few years later then this video was made . Should be awesome though 😅
Thinking about getting a pair of these. Still fairly new in this game, but im learning more every day. Im old school tho, (kid of the 80s-90s) so i was bliwn away when i got back in a couple years ago lol. Back then u had to know a guy, who knew someone that worked at the only stereo shop around. Got a kicker 15" cvr now but wanna get alot louder, and drive a sentra so dnt have much room
I havent seen any reviews either.. no one seems to have any unfortunately. Good ones at least
I picked up 2-15"d2 punisher with 12000.1d amp and wow am amazed
I have 4x Punisher 15s powered by a Deaf Bonce AAB4800.1 in my 4th order wall and they get down
What kind of numbers u hitting ?? Clamped power?
If u go look at g2 dynamics basket they use on genesys there sub has 24 or 28mm of xmax and that Rockville has the same basket so u nvr know the xmax could be in the 20s they have same spider size so who knows it flexes good tho
I am not going to lie you had it over 3k watts so for 150 and maybe a risk to your amp its a good sub (from a 15 year old’s view of things)
Please review a Fi sub.. they're inexpensive for the high quality due to the 1-2 month wait time. Heck maybe they'll send u a sub to test! (if u ask'em to)
I highly doubt they'll send him a sub to test. All of their subs are built-to-order. I run Fi and Synergy Audio. Before Covid, it took 2 weeks to get in my first 18. During Covid, it was 49 days. Definitely worth the wait.
Bro Rockville 4oow 8in powered sub was my first , the cone is all aluminum its a badass lil guy they aint bad at all
Does it have the same basket as a K9?
They're "big dawg" is the destroyer and I'd love to c how those get down bcuz I was looking at the 15s
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I read that the g2 genesys and punisher is basically the same subwoofer. Built in the same place in china. But the punisher is half the price. Just some minor cosmetic differences.
Keep up the good work brother, really enjoy all the content for post up and I really like how far you have come keep on keeping on 👍
So would you prefer a sealed box or a ported box when it comes to the punisher 12 in Rockville
I would love to see some FI AUDIO! SSD or something along that level
Not Bad At All.. I Just Delivered To Their Warehouse Monday
Still love the look of that sundown x series though. My box is tuned to 32 also Always wondered how they would have worked out for me instead of my dual American Bass HD 12s which I absolutely love as well. Might have to try them out someday. #firstworldproblems lol.
I love Sundown subs. Everything else I've listened to just pounds hard. I love deep bass. Thats bass real bass
I've had an sa12 at 800watts for a while now, and while it doesn't hit super low it gets down to around 30hz pretty good, and you can still hear bass pretty well at 24hz, but no where near as loud. I might get 2 15s lol
@@super1337spy ... That'll work. Yeah I like the deep bass. Bass you can feel. I'm just stressing on getting the x. Or zv5. Big difference in price not sure if it's a big difference in performance.
First look at it, it reminds me of the old pyramid Super Pro.
I actually tests my subwoofer with a constant test tone😁 It true👍
Love your videos buddy ... keep up the good work and like someone else said test the harmony audio monolith .. that ti style basket and the hefty motor looks promising!
Just ordered a punisher 12 d2 upgrading from my skar svr12 hopefully its alot louder cant wait
cool vids, been subbed. Sooo i can't help but feel like they rated it for Amp-Matching purposes for people that would buy a sub at this price. as in less electrical, maybe a 2800watt amp that does slightly less to the sub. on the other end, your amp and electrical allow you to whack it with a Full 3400 for how long, while expecting no smell. just my opinion.
Parker can you try testing the toro force12s.i here it's a amazing sub under $300
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I saw this Budget Bass Basher on Amazonia and found your review by proxy. Thinking this would be a cheap way to show some kids around the block what an old school EarthQuake PHD5000W-grey can do when compared to a recent 5000w monoblock class D amp! The old school will definitely rule when hooked to my Phoenix Gold Alternator!
Anyways, a better understanding of "Program" or "PGM" =
We all have heard PGM described as follows:
A speaker's "program" rating is the maximum amount of peak power it can safely handle in short bursts. It's almost always twice the "continuous" rating. For example, a speaker rated for 400 watts continuous power would be rated for 800 watts program power.
Here is a better description to get better understanding:
☆The "program" rating is also known as the "music" power rating. It's a higher rating because music has many peaks and dips and is not as abusive as a continuous signal. ☆
☆The ideal setup is where the amp's RMS rating is around the speaker's program rating. This lets the amp's peak wattage approach the peak wattage of the speaker when in the particular cabinet chosen.
Program watt ratings are used heavily when setting up a P.A. rig, where musical peaks are prevalent and single test and competition tones are not used.....much. With a musical rating given Peavy suggests an amplifier that can achieve 65 to 85% of the PGM rating while keeping the amplifier channel gains at 2/3rds of the amp's maximum output giving your P.A. the cleanest sounding music reproduction but still giving your sound system the ability to peak terrific DB when needed 😉!
Seems odd for a Car Audio company to include PGM ratings when looking at it from a competitive veiwpoint, but from a musically oriented standpoint PGM gives the user a better chance at reaching their audiophile-ish goals (even though I would never call a speaker with a sensitivity of 85 an audiophile quality speaker! l😂
I had a pair of canine fifteens on a skar RP 2008 did very well just ordered a pair of the Punisher 15 will try them
i have videos on these and the destroyers and love both for the price ~!
Yeah I was pleasantly surprise. And yeah I loved my Destroyer. Might do a build with them
@@ParkerTheBasshead ... Parker, please tell me, which you like between the destroyer, the skar zvx, and the American bass hd. From the top to bottom, which order would you put them in from greater to least?
Nice to know you're still here man when I was first into speakers I saw your video on that crazy xmax driver. Where is it now?
@@maincharacter2677 i took it apart and am slowly rebuilding it , hopefully better than before
@@johndough4338 they each have their own strengths and weaknesses . it comes down to what fits your build and goals .
Didnt rockville try to use their best subwoofer vs Sundowns worst subwoofer and theirs blew at a lower watt? Lol...
Yup
The Rockville is also half the price of the sundown. If Rockville would just honestly rate their stuff I think they would be doing really well... I ran one of their k6 15s for a while. For the price you can't complain (I think I paid 70 bucks for it) but it definitely wasn't 1,200 watts rms. I gave it 600 and started to smell coil. I ran it on about 450 for 6 months with no issues though, and it actually sounded great.
So if I were looking for budget gear... I might go with Rockville, just cut the ratings by about 2/3 lol
@@Avaddon911 if you want budget go with kicker
@@jase1911 I'm not looking for budget gear but if I were it definitely wouldn't be kicker. I would buy high end kicker however. If I truly wanted budget gear I'd go with Skar though
I run rockford p3s in one vehicle and Memphis mojo in my truck, the Rockville was decent for a budget sub though.
I wish you'd test with rock/metal music too
2:29 he meant to say CEA, not "CES". Doesn't rockville also make home theatre subs?
CEA doesn't have any standards for subs or anything other than amplifiers.....
so it truely doesn't matter, cea ces cia ctt cdc..... Just FYI. Rockville makes a gaggle of products, It is Audiosavings house brand as NVX is to sonicelectronix.
They make pro audio subs. I’ve used a couple of them. They’re not much, but they’ll add a little boom to your theatre setup
Go ahead Rockville! That's a 150 dollar sub!!
Looks like the higher end toro 12 different dust cap and polished bottom. Interested to see a vs demo👌✌️👍🤔😉
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Damn, that is actually surprising it survived the higher rating which is obviously exaggerated a 🤏 bit and yes you can see that there is some type of a coating painted over the coils but it just is not as dark as say sundowns black hi-temp coating... Overall I don't think it is a terrible sub for the money but I personally would not run Rockville ever myself... Then again I'm currently building two Deaf Bonce apocalypse DB3515's on a Wolfram AW-9000.1D for my yukon denali I cannot wait this amp is BEAST at half an ohm 💪🔈🔈💪