SHOOTOUT! JBLPartyBox 110 vs PA Speakers, Bose S1Pro, JBL Compact, Mackie Thump Go - Max Sound Demo
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- The microphone of my iPad does not pick up the bass response of the PartyBox 110. In person the difference is huge! Make sure to see the end of the video where I do the Max sound dB test!
For a pro set up, the Mackie or Bose are the way to go for a lot of reasons because that's what they are designed for...however, for personal use the Partybox all freaking day long. I highly doubt you'll miss the 3db from the Bose unit. Even the Mackie you have to keep in mind that extra DB is coming from the compression horn. It's most likely from the 1khz range.
Agree, the JBL is more Hifi sounding for home use. In another test PB110 self muted at 86dB, same track Mackie 97dB. 10dB is huge, it would take over 3 PB110 to equal that volume. For personal use 86dB is usually plenty loud but I like to have extra volume on tap for certain tracks. 86dB is a very quiet party, no talking allowed:)
Viewer comment: In response to some folks posting that the Bose S1 Pro wasn't loud enough, especially in the vocals department. Since loud and soft are relative terms I decided to measure actual decibel levels. The app I used is called Decibel X. It's a must app for all musicians. In this video, my vocal (Shure SM 58) volume is set at 3/4 with 1/4 reverb, which I changed to 1/2 after viewing this video and my instrument volume is at 1/2. What I discovered was this battery operated, 15 lb. speaker is not as loud as my my 39 lb. JBL EON615 which puts out 127 db max. SPL or my 41 lb. JBL EON One line array which puts out 118 db max. SPL. NO, this unit puts out only 103 db peak (did I mention it only weighs 15 lbs.) What does it all mean you ask? SPL stands for Sound Pressure Level and it's the primary objective unit of measure for output (NOT Watts). Continued exposure to SPL above 90 dB can cause permanent hearing damage. Remember that dB levels drop the further away from the source... the goal is to have a level of 85 dB max where the listener is, thus the reason these units have a rating of over that, which gives you some head room. I also discovered that this unit is ideal for small rooms with 40-50 people or busking. It's size and weight make this unit very, very convenient especially for solo or duo musicians/singers.
The partybox line of speaker definitely is more hi fi than typical PA speakers. The pb woofers are smaller in diameter than typical PA woofers but they have longer excursion, so the sound and bass from the partyboxes will be fuller and deeper. PA woofers are short excursion and light woofer material so the sound punches but their isnt much bass to back up the thumps and punches. PA speakers are only worth it if you need high SPL and dont care about sound quality or fullness. There are some PA speakers that produce good sound but for the most part you are almost always going to get better quality sound from hi fidelity speakers like partyboxes.
Good information! Thanks
Finally someone who actually knows how to test a speaker
Thanks for the compliment!!
In comparison Max dB for the same track: Bose S1Pro 98dB, Mackie Thump Go 101.5dB Remember a difference of 6dB is equivalent to twice as loud as our ears perceive. A 10dB is equal to double the power.
Please do the SPL measurement with a proper dB-meter and from 1m distance.
It's the standard.
+3dB equals twice power (W).
+3dB equals twice number of speakers.
10dB equals double sound, as our ears perceive it.
Double the distance is -6dB.
Half the distance is +6dB.
Therefore it's Important to be consistent with 1m distance, both measuring sensitivity and SPL.
@@stefanullberg1692 I know 1m is the standard distance for companies but I'm trying to compare speakers in a real world situation say 10-15 feet back from listening position, in a non treated room.
@@stefanullberg1692 Thanks True Specs, but no one listens at 1m.
JBL sounds good. One thing, you might consider getting a dB meter that will also read in dBC. The dBC range takes bass into account while dBA doesn't account much for bass. You can have two speakers that rate relatively close in dBA, but might be very different in dBC if one has more bass, like the JBL. dBC measurements will also be higher and closer to what the manufacturers specs are. Caveat - none of the inexpensive dB meters will read the very low bass frequencies... Regardless, the fact that you test the speakers using the same dB meter and music is a very valid comparison, so thanks and keep up the good work, sir!
Thanks for the suggestion! Would a phone App dB meter be any better?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I feel that the most important thing is consistency. You've been doing that well. I use a Galaxy CM130 meter, still inexpensive, has A and C weighting, fast and slow response, but no peak hold. I'm not sure how accurate the phone dB meter apps would be. You could try one and compare to your handheld meter. Same as if you get a new meter, you'd have to compare to your current one.
@@NukePooch1 Thanks, I'll try comparing to phone dB meters.
Great video! I agree with you 💯! I got my Mackie thump go and I am impressed. I love your videos because when you review something I don't have I know what to expect when I get it and your discretion is always spot on. I can wait to see how this does hooked together with the Bose S1pro. I couldn't get it to play coming out of the Bose to my partybox 100 but I didn't try to go from the partybox to the Bose. Maybe I will get a chance to try it.
About the partyboxes they are a great speaker to play when want something full range to jam out🎸 with but not on the pro level. But yes sir I am not getting rid of mine. LOL 😆
Thank you again keep it coming! Can't wait for your next one!
Thanks for your advice, watching your videos helped me decide on the purchase. Impressed with the speaker. Question, Will I lose bass putting it up on a stand compared to playing on the floor? Maybe you can make a video with the new Mackie? I heard the PB100 was actually louder than the 110. True?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz i have got to listen to one in person and the videos on here say that they are close.
I was playing with the Mackie last night and I was trying to hook up the sub1 from the past thru to the sub and I didn't get any signal going to the sub unless I used a wired input to the speaker. Have you tried that yet?
And I have gotten the most bass out of ot on the floor unless it's against a wall or in a corner.
@@shaneberckman Haven't tried a sub with the Mackie yet. I tried corner placement with the PB110 and it was too much bass!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz yes I agree. But the partyboxes have a warm sound that sounds good. I love having the 2 300s on the patio because the sound covers my yard very well. I am on the lake so I have it when we are in the water paddle boarding or swimming we can hear them. the 100's they are really close in volume to the 300s. The 300s have a little more bass but they are heavy to move around. I was playing with the PRX1S tonight and put the Alto 12" sub under the mackie and it sounds really good! I can't wait to try it with a bose sub. But I am still going to see how the partybox sounds with the mackie. Hopefully get some time to do this this week. But I think the mackie will the Bose subs is going to be an amazing little rig. LOL
@@shaneberckman Agree the Mackie NEEDS a sub!
I bought 2 party box 100s when it was 299 a piece. Great sounding speakers. I just wished the by pairing both speakers, one mic would work with both speakers.
$299 great price! A pair must sound incredible.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz It was cheap till people heard it and it gained popularity. I think it's better then the rest with the exception of the 1000.
@@waimeaguyz9074 Better than the 310, why?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Sounds better, I think.
hi Bill, first of all - thank you for your excellent reviews. They are my intro to the mobile speakers world. I had a chance to listen to Partybox 110 and Mackie. I could not hear that much difference in volume between the two. Most probably because Partybox offers significantly lower bass range and the low tone propagation gives the impression it is loud enough. In Mackie I missed that nice low end touch, although the overall sound quality was good. Mackie is much more handy to move: 8 kg vs 11 kg of partybox. Also Mackie handle is more convenient to use. For the long-term investement the replacable battery will be a plus too. Ah, and partybox has this nice standby mode activated automatically after 20 mins of being idle. If you forget to switch ofd the Mackie, the battery is dead the next day. I also noticed the Bluetooth connection with JBL is more stable when you stay distant from the speaker. My recommendation will be to go for Partybox if you want a speaker for occasional bbq parties or DJ activities. Mackie makes more sense for musicians, since this 3kg difference and smaller package is important. In my country Partybox 110 is also 30% cheaper than Mackie TG. For those who want the JBL type of sound in a smaller package, maybe it is worth to wait for partybox encore (although the price may be not that attractive there)
Glad you have liked the reviews. I agree completely with your findings! Partybox is a handy pick up and go for small situations, but for a real party I think people are spending too much money for not enough performance. A solution I just discovered is the TurboSound iP300. Downside it does not have internal battery which will be a Deal Breaker for many. The fact is it can be run easily with a small external power source. The difference in performance from a party speaker is huge. czcams.com/video/EcZng4Np2qs/video.html
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Oh, this is a very recent discovery :) Portability is a must, but I could also give it a try with an external generator. Could you share what is the !miniumum! power I would need? You use 300Watts, the generator I could use is only 150W (I own Ryobi batteries and they sell a small 18v 230V power converters)
@@MaMac1980 150 watts might work?? All my external power units are Pure Sine Wave, not sure if Ryobi is? I tested the iP300 today at 5 on the gain out of 10. Very loud but not clipping. The most my watt meter showed was 135 watts! Of course you want room for peaks at high volume that's why I think 300 watts is the minimum. Also keep in mind run time, the louder you play the shorter the run time. I guess you can maybe get 1.5 to 2 hours with 150 watts at medium volume if it works. Every speaker has different efficiency, my QSC CP8 at 1,000 watts is run easily on a 150 watt external power. Using the same power unit and Bose Sub1 at 480 watts, the sub shut down right away!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thank you, Bill!
Hummm. Am actually planning to Go for the partybox 310 and cam across the Mackie thumo go which is way cheaper. But afraid of the Mackie in terms of bass. Is the loudness same on the Mackie and pb 310?
I much appreciate the test. I own an an S1 pro but was curious as to how you would simultaneously sync both units together for a full range set up. Is there a single cable between them or multiple Bluetooth? Thanks . And how is vocal quality.
Which is more powerful in volume, a JBL partybox 310 or the mackie thump go?
JBL PB310 106.6dB/Mackie 115dB. I believe that JBL spec is with plugged into A/C. 8dB difference is almost twice as loud! Downside-Mackie has very little bass. With a subwoofer its incredible!
JBL recently added a three band EQ through a firmware update. It makes a great difference! Amazed this speaker is still $400 after all other speakers have jumped in price.
is it possible to connect the eon one compact to partybox’ eon one as the main host going to input of the partybox, which port to get signal in the eon one compact is it yhe pass thru?.,i tried in the 3.5 headset but sound coming out in partybox is very weak & distorted.
It works but the PB max dBs are less than the Compact. Use 1/4" out of Compact to 1/8" Aux in of PB110. A better way is to run the Compact from the 1/8" Aux out of the PB110. Compact gain can be controlled separately using the Compact's App. Sounds great until you reach the max db of the PB110. Max dB of the 110 is about 90dB.
Good video I am between the JBL PARTYBOX and the Mackie Thump Go, for you which one would be better and more complete
Glad you liked it. Depends on what you need. Do you want the light show? A musician will take the Mackie because of the 1/4"/XLR inputs. JBL only has 1/8" Mackie is super light and small. JBL is a much more full range Hifi sounding speaker. Mackie has NO bass in comparison! The biggest difference is the volume. JBL cuts off at 87dB, Mackie 101dB. 14db difference is huge! You would need 4 JBL's to reach that volume. If you want the best at this price check out the Turbosound iP300. But NO battery 122dB!! only $430 sounds Hifi like the JBL and has equal bass. czcams.com/video/mXaNcpN2CMo/video.html
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I love the Mackie, I wanted to listen to music at home, I don't know which one has the best sound, you tell me that the Mackie doesn't go down like the JBL PARTY
@@jduarte1506 Easy decision, If you like your music loud with a very clean high end, go Mackie. If you like your bass, with a better smoother Hifi mids go JBL. Really personal preference???
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thanks
I knew you will enjoy the sound of partybox, it sounds very different from PA speaker but it can't play that loud because Partyboxes use hi-fi drivers.
But don't forget that if you plug the partybox into AC it will sound louder.
And if you place it in the corner of a room the bass will be even more impressive.
Thanks for your advice on the purchase! Very impressive speaker. Took your advice and put it in the corner in the kitchen and it was shaking the walls - too much bass! My question is, if I put it up on a stand will I lose a lot of bass compared with playing on the floor?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz No, on a speaker stand or on the floor it doesn't make a big difference.
But if it's in outdoors or indoors it makes a big différence.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz
You want a bass / sub preferrably on the floor (but your mids and treble on ear level...). You can gain 3 dB on the floor and to a wall. In a corner you gain 6 dB.
You can buy a replacement battery for the PB100/110 online, unscrew the PB100/110, and replace it. There are videos on YT that demonstrate this. A tinkering fanatic could maybe add an external plug for a 2nd battery..
Too bad the PB100/110 doesn't have a 12V car battery / cigarette lighter plug like the PB300.
@@Wuppie62 Thanks, didn't know, it has a user replaceable battery. If I put the PB310 on the floor for extra bass will that ruin the mids/treble performance which I think is impressive?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz
..well...I wouldn't say it's really 'user friendly replaceable'. I5's not a featute. But it can be done if you're handy, carefull and not afraid of doing some 'tinkering'.
110 in lituanian cost 250 maqie 350€
Good question. I'm a drummer. A little reverb on the snare is all I need.
What song is playing at 6:40?
Not sure, something I got on the web searching non copyright songs.
Awe fudge. its such a cool song.
Found it!czcams.com/video/GCJacEzcU7A/video.html
Thank you sir!!
Jbl is better than bose s1 pro?
Depends on what you prefer. Bose S1 is twice as loud as the JBL PB110! They call it a Party Speaker?? Besides that the JBL has incredible bass and a more Hi-fi sound. If you don't need volume over 90dB then yes JBL is the better more full range sounding speaker.
Is there latency from the Jbl aux input?
Price drop! PB 110 now $330 I paid $400
Sorry if you mentioned this I didn't watch whole video yet I got interrupted I will watch it in a few minutes but the jbl party box 1000 must be a beast
i heard that it limits the bass by a lot at maximum
@@francescog53550 No need to worry about clipping here, once it reaches it limit, that's it! Didn't really notice bass going down, just everything stopped.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz do you mean that if I crank the gain up with a dj mixer it will handle everything no matter what?
Partybox 1,000 76lbs! Would like to know the max db? For the same $1,200 I can get a QSC CP8 that puts out 124dB, over a Bose Sub1 and I can move it! I'm sure though it sounds great!
@@francescog53550 At 95.6dB the speaker self limited. It does stay clean right up to its limit. Keep in mind I test at 2 meters compared to manufactures specs that measure at 1 meter in an acoustically treated room. My space is a large wide open living room with high ceilings. I don't think the speaker is capable of getting any louder even using a mixer.