Paper Cartridge Boxes
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- The second of the two-part paper cartridge series details the making of the wooden boxes and wrapping process to protect and show off your paper cartridges for percussion revolvers. It's an easy to follow video with a historically correct product. Your authentic paper cartridges deserve an authentic and descriptive box.
Greatly appreciate your fascinating videos detailing your work in reproducing historic combustible cartridges and the packaging.
The myriad of methods used for packaging combustible revolver cartridges is absolutely fascinating! Pasteboard boxes, wooden blocks, simple paper wrapping, matchbox type packaging, etc. Probably one of the first examples of highly specialized packaging in American Industry. From 1855 to 1860, Colt's Cartridge Works went from individual paper tubes holding an individual combustible, packaged 6 or 12 tubes in a paper container with 6 or 12 square slots holding the tubes, the completed paper container opened by a string, to a flip top wooden block like you show in 1858 to 1860 production, to a clam-shell-like split wooden block after 1860! D.C Sage used a drilled wooden block wrapped in paper, string opened, and it appears that D.C. Sage's blocks were drilled 13 holes, then cut in the middle of the center hole between 6 holes either side so that the "half-hole' could hold the paper tube of 7 percussion caps! H.W. Mason used a simple pasteboard box, wrapped in a shellacked paper envelope, also string opened so that the pasteboard box slid out and opened to reveal 6 combustibles neatly and snugly laid in an alternating nose / tail arrangement. If my memory is correct, it was "Bartholow's Solid Waterproof Cartridge" in .36 & .44 caliber that came packed 6 to a box in a matchbox type container!
I've been using waxed freezer paper the white freezer paper and the brown paper with wax on one side. Since then I started using poster board and making my boxes with fold ends like regular cartridge boxes with labels on them. From white poster board to green. And tan. Chartreuse.even red ones . and after I glue my cartridge boxes up I sprayed them lightly with ice car polish to weather proof them to repel water or moisture. It's been working very well because it gets very damp here while out hunting and camping. Oh the end of my block of wood for my paper cartridges I drilled a hole to accommodate a insulin bottle for my caps and put the rubber plug in the top of the bottle it.seems to be working very well. Haven't had any problems yet. Hey I like your videos because you explaine all of what you do very clearly and exact! Keep up the good work. And good hunting.
Great vid! I actually use a custom stamp made from Etsy to stamp a custom logo onto the cheap masking paper from Home Depot. Works well and the stamp produces fine inconsistencies which adds to the "period" look. Around $20 it's expensive but it's nice to have a personal touch to the cartridges I make. Additionally, instead of making it in sacrificial paper sometimes I'll use just a cardstock sleeve that slips over the wood block- it lasts about 5 times but no paper mess and reduces the time it takes to reload boxes.
Is your stamp made for revolver cartridges or for rifle? All I could find was rifle stamps on Esty by Cap N Ball.
What did you use as a search parameter?
I actually used a custom stamp through Etsy. It's a blank stamp where you upload an image file of the stamp you want and they custom cut it for you in the specified dimensions requested.
I used your instructions on making these, and I am very pleased with the way they turned out! They are really nice cartridge boxes. Thank You.
That's great to hear. Thanks for letting me know. Todd
I really enjoy the channel.
Excellent instructions and a nice video.
Thank you.
Very interesting! Nice work!
Awesome video.
Great video, thanks!!!
Capandball channel makes rubber stamps fir many arsenals. You could probably order your own rubber stamp in a lot, and then sell the extras.
i did copy from you to produce my boxes, just love these,,,, just need to try the wrapping now... many thanks for this great tutorial...
Thanks, I'm glad it worked. Thank you for letting me know. Todd
Very neat!!
Very neat work for original - looking cartridges!!
Thanks Richard. Thanks for watching. Todd
Really cool project!
Thanks Seewaage.
So cool!
Kind Thanks for a very authentic and informative video! A lovely job indeed! In my business of being a cabinetmaker and restorer of period antiques, I’ve had ver authentic looking rubber stamps. They can copy anything and it would certainly be easier than all those steps for two labels. You could wrap then stamp. I’ve had some very complex rubber stamps made in the past. And you can do colors if preferred. The cartridge boxes look like fun to make and your efforts really make a great outcome. Thanks Again for sharing your knowledge! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Thanks Davey, I appreciate your comments. I've thought about a stamp, which is an authentic method. Some companies printed separate labels and glued them on. I could do that as well. Thanks for watching, Todd
@@frontierwesternheritage1356 You’re quite Welcome indeed! We have a local family run print shop and it’s easier working with them than a big outfit. I did subscribe by the way and looking forward to past and new! Kind Thanks! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
What I did: Made separate labels, easier, but, for on the paper direct, I pasted only one end on top of an a 8/11 sheet of paper. For the string I use hemp twine, paste it on the box and paste a strip of craft paper on top of it. On the "pull" end, it tie a knot then paste another piece of craft paper over it. For water proofing, I shellac the entire outside.
Where did uou find the revolver labels on line? All I could find were rifle labels to copy.
@@denisdegamon8224 look around for black powder pistol cartridges.
Tried paper cartridges and they leave residue in the cylinder . The only way I could prevent that from happening was to nitrate the paper and that worked great . I’ve still got six that I’ve stored for nearly 4 years . Going to try them out this Saturday .
Thanks I’ll try and knock one up 👍
Well don't leave us hanging lol. How'd they do?
Very cool..... Makes the method I use seem awful primitive.
I saw something about staples making stamp with your design.make box ,wrap, then stamp
Johnny, You sure can. That was one way of labeling historically. Most stamps at the time were wooden carvings. Others were metal, brass mostly. But wooden blocks were cheaper. Thanks for watching, Todd
The video is fantastic; you are a great orator! How long would you make a 36 cal box? and what size bit for 36 cal?
Would you happen to have the demotions for the boxes for 36&44? This would make a great class for our western heritage project and it would give the kids and easy take home pamphlet.
Also what taper on the dowel would we use for the 36 and the 44. Any help would be appreciated thanks.
Craig
Learn by doing.
Excellent video, I have made several boxes now using your method. Any idea of the dimensions for the 36 caliber cartridge box? Thank You Very Much!
Just found your channel. Glad I did. Lots of good videos. I’ll be subbing to the channel
How deep are the holes
Just my two cents....have a rubber stamp made up. Just wrap your kraft style paper around the box and then stamp it with a period correct colour red for 44's green for .36cal ??
The paper looks like Parchment Paper or Baking Paper from the Market.
I just used my laser printer and was able to print out on my thin craft paper. I didn't have to paste a backing to it but had to put some card stock underneath to let the printer know there is paper in it.
I read on wiki that a box of 6 cartridges cost 12 cents about what you would pay for a shot of whiskey , some cowboys short on cash offered the bar tender a paper cartridge for a drink , thats where the name a shot of whiskey come from.
Thanks Ray, I'll try it sometime. Unfortunately the bar tender won't know what is. The reaction would be worth it though. Thanks for watching. Todd
Think I’ll use a piece of old jeans for my hinge. Great video
Can I ask how you got the borders around the label in Microsoft Word at 15:34?
Sure, I searched scrolling clipart and then inserted four pieces as pictures. Drag each piece to form a rectangle. I didn't find a ready-made border, so I had to build one.
I wonder how much A box of paper cartridges cost back in the old days?
Go see the channel THE DUELIST. This guy is a walking talking history book on all things 1851 and on. Bet he knows.....
What depth do you drill the box? I have watched the video ten times and keep missing it?
Just go deep enough to only have the tip of the bullet exposed. It depends on the length of your cartridge. The tip will fit into the lid. This makes it easier to get the cartridge out. Thanks for watching and for the question. Todd
@@frontierwesternheritage1356 Thank you, I am going to make some this week; I am fortunate enough to have my next-door neighbor own a printing shop, and he is making a label for me for being a good guy😃
Some cartridge boxes included caps. Not sure how they were inserted.
You're right. When you picked up a box of cartridges, you got everything you needed. Some caps were stacked in a small hole drilled into the block. Others were in a recess along one edge and held there by the paper wrapper. Great comment. Thanks for watching, Todd
How deep did you drill the hole?
Leave enough space for a solid bottom. If the tip of the forstner bit pokes through, back off a little.
CanI get a copy of your file of the label?
Is there anyway you can send me a copy what you just printed out. I'm going to try to make those boxes if possible and I would like to rap the boxes with that print on them if you don't mind. I'm not really all that computer savvy.
Terry, I'm on the road but will email a copy as soon as I get home. If you don't see it by Sunday night, ping me again. I might need a reminder. Todd
Can i get a coppy of that to?
Your printer should accept a variety of paper sizes. You just use the manual feed function and put it through. I used that to print index cards I made for studying
Thanks Salty, it's not the paper size. The masking paper won't lay flat. It curls up and jams in the printer. Thanks for watching, Todd
@Frontier Western Heritage maybe a little thicker butcher paper. I have printed on some in the past making packages for 7.62x54r. Either way, very enjoyable video.