Osumania VS Stepmania comparison commentary (facts only, unbiased)

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • On screen is both my osumania and stepmania play of my simfile for Raise My Sword, you can find it here in
    osumania: osu.ppy.sh/u/1...
    stepmania: simfiles.stepma...
    Script for video: pastebin.com/g...

Komentáře • 156

  • @ChronicalV
    @ChronicalV Před 7 lety +123

    The osu mania difficulty calculator is actually horrible tho

    • @Rhys-gv3ir
      @Rhys-gv3ir Před 6 lety +4

      yeah ive been stuck on 3* for ages, should be easy to get past that

    • @ToddlerAnnihilator666
      @ToddlerAnnihilator666 Před 6 lety +24

      +Rhys1810 no its not, i was stuck on 3* for 3 months and them something snapped and now i can play 4 stars no problem. 3 stars is equal of lv 12-20 in stepmania so it shouldnt be "easy"

    • @ChronicalV
      @ChronicalV Před 6 lety +18

      PongiStyleChaos Difficulty is subjective. An ET considers 4* easy, beginner's might find 2* difficult. Your definition of difficult and easy will not be the same as others

    • @ToddlerAnnihilator666
      @ToddlerAnnihilator666 Před 6 lety +3

      +Chronical Varsity thats why YOU choose what kind of maps YOU like and play it. i like marathon stream maps because they are most fair so i mostly play them. imo stepmania is the same fucking game as osu!mania, i get almost same results in both games but since osu!mania has its own official page and since community is nice and is easy to find maps you like i play it more. i dont give a shit about rating system, every ET player doesnt give a shit about pp or star rating. and i like the fact that osu is fan game and is non-profit.

    • @ToddlerAnnihilator666
      @ToddlerAnnihilator666 Před 6 lety

      +PongiStyleChaos i play it for fun, not competition.

  • @-Poka-
    @-Poka- Před 3 lety +5

    Everyone: Talks the differences each other.
    Me, literally enjoys song: *RAISE MY SWOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!*

    • @FrizzlerGuy
      @FrizzlerGuy  Před 3 lety +4

      you're right, this is the most important part of the video :)
      FREEDOM BECAME THOUSANDS OF FLAMES

  • @anemiapwns1
    @anemiapwns1 Před 7 lety +28

    osu!mania scroll can be changed with ctrl & +/- in with the song selected in song select btw

    • @nikkkola99
      @nikkkola99 Před 6 lety +6

      Hating on anime is a meme, nobody actually fucking cares if Osu is full of anime since Stepmania is too.
      Ignorance you say? I've played Stepmania for a year, then moved to osu!mania for the community and then went back to Stepmania after another year. I can safely say that osu!mania is garbage compared to Stepmania and even more garbage compared to Etterna (which is recently catching up with the few things osu! could do better than it). Next-Gen Stepmania? My ass. It's only played because of the popularity of Osu! in general. I'm pretty sure if Osu!mania were the only existing mode in Osu! few would have played it.

    • @ToddlerAnnihilator666
      @ToddlerAnnihilator666 Před 6 lety

      +Nixo NS give me 5 reasons why!

    • @ToddlerAnnihilator666
      @ToddlerAnnihilator666 Před 6 lety +2

      +Nixo NS they are same fucking game, just put a stepmania skin (which i use) and its same game. osu mania is better bcause its easier to download songs i like. i can also play stepmania converts, where i get almost same results as playing stepmania. stepmania needa fucking year to load, astetics are shit, its hard to find a good song, it has no competition, no multiplayer, o!m has better graphics, better animations, kinder community, more and easier options to edit your performance and graphics, easier way to put skins, and its a non profit fan game , im waiting for your reasons mate

    • @nikkkola99
      @nikkkola99 Před 6 lety +3

      Developers constantly improving the game for the community (the developer of Etterna is the best SM player right now).
      The outstanding quality of the charts included in popular packs, which is monitored by the most experienced charters out there.
      An automatic difficulty calculator that actually works.
      The ability to customize the game to the point where you can actually program stuff into it.
      Tons of modifiers.
      An in-game skill calculator, which calculates how good you are at the game.
      General skill divided into many sub-skills (jumpstream, stamina, jack speed).
      Give it a shot so you can actually see what I'm talking about. More info here etternaonline.com/guide

    • @nikkkola99
      @nikkkola99 Před 6 lety +2

      Thank you, reading this was a good laugh.
      Arguing with your ignorance and faulted logic is no use.

  • @brandondiosdado8782
    @brandondiosdado8782 Před 7 lety +14

    Etterna version 0.55 has removed chord cohesion

  • @nikkkola99
    @nikkkola99 Před 7 lety +18

    5:08
    Unless there's been an update in the o!m calculator I haven't heard of, this statement is complete bullshit.
    O!m's star system is based on the density of the chart and stamina (kind of) which doesn't make any sense. The only reason some maps have ''accurate'' rating is pure luck.

    • @anamethats
      @anamethats Před 6 lety

      Nixo NS The only issue with the calculator is Jacks. Some maps that should be ~4.5 stars are like ~3.5. Otherwise I think it's fine.

    • @Vladislavchooo
      @Vladislavchooo Před 6 lety +3

      There are numerous issues with the calculator all due to a wrong approach (NPS) Please do not write pointless comments without first having a glance/being good enough to determine it on your own.

  • @windowsxpnt2347
    @windowsxpnt2347 Před 2 lety +1

    this video is like doing a direct comparison of beatmania iidx to ddr, sure both games involve hitting scrolling notes to music and have offered a 4 key mode, but that's where the similarities end. the timing windows and the way hold notes work in beatmania iidx is done the same in osu mania. the same holds true to the timings and holdnotes of ddr in stepmania. not to mention the obvious differences of one being downscroll default and the other being upscroll default and both games using different file formats (and stepmania not requiring an account to download custom content)

  • @cosmo3940
    @cosmo3940 Před 6 lety +7

    This is a very helpful video because I really want to get into stepmania

  • @Vladislavchooo
    @Vladislavchooo Před 6 lety +15

    You kinda missed programmability and funky charts that taro does as well as all the gimmicky mods(such as the ones etienne used for the sm showcase @agdq) Furthermore you can change cmod much more precisely than osu's scaler. Adding Etterna on top of this makes o!m pretty much pointless in terms of competitiveness for 4k -> Infinitely better calculator with the game constantly improving as to o!m having 1 ranking for N different games (N being the keymods it holds for)

  • @rocketlanterns
    @rocketlanterns Před 6 lety +23

    Amazing video dude, and holy hell that play was impressive, but jesus christ the absolute fanboy warfare in the comments is astounding...
    I play both games, and sure I have a preference, but I both enjoy and would recommend both games based on their own merits, such as, as stated in the video, osu!'s ease of access and online play and Etterna's more extensive set of gameplay altering mods.
    ... I'm gonna get completely blasted for being neutral on all this aren't I...

  • @KidMorbid
    @KidMorbid Před 5 lety +8

    honestly ive always hated osu!mania timing windows and how holds work, but stepmania is hard to work with because you can hack the timing windows to make you look like the best stepmania player ever, while osu!mania is fixed, also i hate how osu!mania has no cmod

    • @windowsxpnt2347
      @windowsxpnt2347 Před 2 lety +2

      thats because osu mania is closer to beatmania in terms of timing and gameplay, the only thing missing is the turntable

  • @BlissBee
    @BlissBee Před rokem +2

    When your accuracy is actually worse in osu mania

  • @shaun8642
    @shaun8642 Před 7 lety +6

    Shoutout to the player demonstrating the file yo

  • @Connormgs
    @Connormgs Před 7 lety +20

    "Stepmania is hard to setup"
    If dragging and dropping is hard then I might agree with you.

    • @casey206969
      @casey206969 Před 7 lety

      How hard is BMS to setup >:

    • @Connormgs
      @Connormgs Před 7 lety +1

      Depends on what client you are using, LR2 takes a bit longer than beatoraja for example. Not inherently difficult it just has more steps than what little effort Stepmania requires to install.

    • @ce2341
      @ce2341 Před 6 lety +11

      Im assuming he meant hard to setup for a newcomer compared to osu

    • @Connormgs
      @Connormgs Před 6 lety +3

      If you can't figure out how to unzip a folder and put it into another folder then you got some serious issues.

    • @ce2341
      @ce2341 Před 6 lety +13

      Connormgs we arent talking about putting songs into the game, but more along the lines of customizing it to feel better. Id say from a noob perspective, osu is much easier to work with at first.

  • @Nicolas-of6li
    @Nicolas-of6li Před 5 lety +2

    this sounds like you were reading an essay in front of your class

  • @firstmaple8_776
    @firstmaple8_776 Před 5 lety +6

    sucks that this is outdated now

  • @oofingberg
    @oofingberg Před 2 lety

    Stepmania literally has a songs folder i don't know how to make it easier

  • @eyesneveropen-meow-5125
    @eyesneveropen-meow-5125 Před 6 lety +5

    osu!mania has osu! so ye i have big brain

  • @SwitchyWitch_
    @SwitchyWitch_ Před 6 lety +3

    Though you did ignore one of the most amazing and game breaking feature on stepmania. Modded maps, one example: czcams.com/video/bboM3p2pTNI/video.html
    Note:NotITG is a modified version of ITG and technically isn't stepmania but is still considered stepmania.
    Note 2: And modded maps are possible to make in Stepmania 5 and up.

    • @FrizzlerGuy
      @FrizzlerGuy  Před 6 lety

      Damn man very right you are! I forgot entirely about this aspect of stepmania haha

    • @arbi9506
      @arbi9506 Před 6 lety

      still,osu has more gamemodes;taiko,ctb and standard.
      makes them equal.

    • @dannypatrick9361
      @dannypatrick9361 Před 3 lety

      @@arbi9506 SM has several game modes too if you bothered to research.

  • @azael2078
    @azael2078 Před 5 lety +1

    osu!mania also has a rate changer you can download

  • @ChronicalV
    @ChronicalV Před 7 lety

    Actually you can change scroll speed before hand in osu mania by using ctrl and + or -

  • @ArcticFqx
    @ArcticFqx Před 6 lety +5

    Some errors:
    "osu!mania can only change scroll speed in game only", wrong, you can change scroll speed from song selection with ctrl + and ctrl -.
    "Stepmania has chord cohesion", yes and no, since you're using Etterna as an example for Stepmania gameplay, Etterna does not have chord cohesion.
    And some clarifications:
    osu!mania supports up to 20 key play.
    Otherwise, great explanation for the differences between the games!

    • @rocketlanterns
      @rocketlanterns Před 6 lety

      Where do you turn on 20 keys? I only have access to 1 through 9K and then doubles for each of those for a maximum of 18K...
      Then again, unless maps are specifically built for 9K Doubles, there is no point in ever using it because to be honest, and I say this as a fan of both games, standard convert maps play like absolute ass...

  • @mrsparklepants5636
    @mrsparklepants5636 Před 5 lety +3

    I would play osu!mania if holds weren't they way they were

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 Před 5 lety +1

      its too hard for ya to time shit huh

    • @mrsparklepants5636
      @mrsparklepants5636 Před 5 lety +2

      how did you know I can't time shit, even though I can play standard osu!, it's almost as if people have preference on what they like in a game

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 Před 5 lety

      @@mrsparklepants5636 "how did you know i can't time shit" lucky guess maybe

    • @mrsparklepants5636
      @mrsparklepants5636 Před 5 lety

      Boi you play geometry dash

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 Před 5 lety

      @@mrsparklepants5636 2 years ago yeah

  • @Patashu
    @Patashu Před 7 lety +10

    SHOUTOUTS TO CHORD COHESION

    • @apocalypseap
      @apocalypseap Před 7 lety +1

      shoutouts to chord cohesion being off by default on etterna 0.55.

    • @Patashu
      @Patashu Před 7 lety +1

      A-a-ahh, I can die happy now... Thank you...

  • @yamamotomeiko7403
    @yamamotomeiko7403 Před 3 lety

    Well, im new to these rhythm games. Currently im playing Osu Mania, then I figured that there are a lot more other similar games like stepmania and etterna but I don't know which one I should start with. Help

    • @FrizzlerGuy
      @FrizzlerGuy  Před 3 lety +1

      I'd say try out all 3 and see which ones you like and dislike. I personally enjoy all 3 all for different reasons. I enjoy OsuMania because it has be the best multiplayer experience, and I enjoy Etterna/Stepmania because of the ease in getting large quantities of songs. I like Stepmania as it has a lot of customization options through themes and noteskins and the fact of it having chord cohesion. I like Etterna because it helps to push your limits with great score tracking, and a pretty reliable calculator for difficulty so you won't be jumping in to an overly difficult chart without knowing ahead of time. If you are into games for the communities both have their positives and negatives as any community would, the main difference between them however is OsuMania hs a much larger playerbase/community.

  • @firstmaple8_776
    @firstmaple8_776 Před 6 lety +1

    Loved it

  • @joelhagdahl5769
    @joelhagdahl5769 Před 5 lety +1

    i just like the ranking system better can y'all please chill ._.

  • @PicaPollo
    @PicaPollo Před 4 lety

    Very informative

  • @ChronicalV
    @ChronicalV Před 6 lety

    Anyone know where I can get BMS and o2jam? I wanna try >4k keycounts for once bc I'm shit

  • @aaiaaaee6857
    @aaiaaaee6857 Před 6 lety +4

    I would rather say Stepmania is better.

  • @Ingame0224
    @Ingame0224 Před 5 lety +1

    Stapmania skin link?

  • @therealhoodiewearer
    @therealhoodiewearer Před 7 lety

    Sure, but OsuMania can't run a modded file (with the mods) like Deceive Your Insight, can it?

  • @jears
    @jears Před 5 lety

    aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa raise my sword

  • @lilypadsy
    @lilypadsy Před 6 lety +6

    iidx is better than both anyway...

  • @arceus413
    @arceus413 Před 3 lety

    skin on left side?

  • @BIRDSBIRDSBIRDSBIRDSBIRDS

    So etterna is stepmania?

    • @tynarvo2176
      @tynarvo2176 Před 4 lety +1

      Yee

    • @badazzblake
      @badazzblake Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@dragoniux4364 i'd say its not as better than original SM, even though it has many QOL features and working IR

  • @azael2078
    @azael2078 Před 5 lety +1

    and btw o!m can go up to 18k

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 Před 4 lety

      @@tynarvo2176 wow funny hahahahaha

    • @azael2078
      @azael2078 Před 4 lety

      @@tynarvo2176 ok

    • @dragoniux4364
      @dragoniux4364 Před 4 lety +1

      The insults are the ultimate argument....

    • @tynarvo2176
      @tynarvo2176 Před 3 lety

      @@dragoniux4364 ok

    • @windowsxpnt2347
      @windowsxpnt2347 Před 2 lety

      the only reason to ever play 9k and 18k in o!m is to play converted maps from pop'n

  • @DJSALTYNUTZ
    @DJSALTYNUTZ Před 7 lety +27

    stepmania > OSUMANIA

    • @firstmaple8_776
      @firstmaple8_776 Před 6 lety +10

      Stepmania >>>>>>>>>>>>>> osu!mania

    • @mewhenfuto9918
      @mewhenfuto9918 Před 6 lety

      osu mania is easier to install or download map files
      its interface is better
      however that copyright prob

    • @mewhenfuto9918
      @mewhenfuto9918 Před 6 lety

      AutisticMatej many osu beatmaps contain copyrighted tracks such as tracks from bemani series or taiko or something
      however stepmania doesnt have those copyright problems
      if you think stepmania is stupid just fucking play osu

    • @mewhenfuto9918
      @mewhenfuto9918 Před 6 lety

      AutisticMatej anyway there are copyright problems that you try to avoid answering so hard

    • @mewhenfuto9918
      @mewhenfuto9918 Před 6 lety

      AutisticMatej so wtf about that copyright problems
      oh! freedom dive is from osu!

  • @azael2078
    @azael2078 Před 5 lety

    osu!mania has more than 1 raise and lower difficulty mod. raise = dt hd hr fi fl. lower = ez ht nf

  • @cheshire_
    @cheshire_ Před 6 lety

    infinite stamina

  • @onepunchboi8526
    @onepunchboi8526 Před 3 lety

    Stepmania is better

  • @SwitchyWitch_
    @SwitchyWitch_ Před 6 lety +2

    I have lost faith in Osu!Mania players.

  • @ProfCube
    @ProfCube Před 6 lety

    so basically osu!mania is better in many ways?

  • @firstmaple8_776
    @firstmaple8_776 Před 5 lety

    This vid is kinda out dated

  • @casey206969
    @casey206969 Před 7 lety +3

    You forgot the fact that osu is a trash game nice try Frizzler Guy

  • @jears
    @jears Před 5 lety

    osu!std is best anyways