Commute Challenge - Trying to stay legal and safe whilst commuting to London
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2024
- Challenge to take on board subscribers feedback and stay legal and safe during my commute to work.
#kawasaki #ninja1000 #z1000sx #motorcycle #london - Auta a dopravní prostředky
12:15 😂
First of all respect for people living in London,dealing with the traffic and the motorcyclist who do the filtering daily. As a person living in a not small nor big town and having everything done quick if needed to do something cant imagine myself spending a lot of time in traffic just to go to a regular shop for example,never a fan of big towns,especially the capital. Time is pressuse at the end of the day. And thats where the advantage of motorcycles come in,myself being one as well.
I couldn't agree more. come retirement, I'll be moving to the mountains in Europe :)
That's a great journey from Essex into St Paul"s. Thanks for sharing. 20mph from Bow is a surprise to me - been a while.
Yeah it sucks mate :(
Personal tip; Don't filter where you have bollards or partial central reservations, puncture city, not worth it. Nice content Pinnacle, from a fellow Z1000sx owner!
Yeah I guess this is where all the debris gathers. Thanks for the tip.
Very informative, fancy a race 😅
I haven't ridden in the UK for years as I live in Baku, Azerbaijan and it's kind of amusing seeing how road in the UK obey the rules for the most part.
Here it's like playing a motorised version of Tetris whilst everyone is on their phones.
I can't imagine trying to ride in Baku. I'd need to get those twisty neck exercises in every day.
Blimey I’d probably be hung on the internet for my daily commute into London. I’ve been doing it by bike for 30 years and my main aim is to stay safe, wrong side of the road, bicycle boxes etc is all fair game as far as I’m concerned and the fact that I’m still alive sort of proves that it’s ok. I went on one of the police’s bike safe courses a few years ago and we introduced ourselves and our journeys and the police motorcyclist said “ just keep alive” as long as we were not reckless and caused trouble to other traffic they generally turned a blind eye.
Yeah this video was a pure by the book video because of the constructive criticism on my previous video :)
It was nice to feel like I was doing everything legally and safely (for once).
The internet can be harsh, But to be honest I only got one really negative comment on the first vid on this subject, but I think CZcams deleted it due to the profanities :)
a story from 2012, Got 3 points and a £60 fine earlier today for overtaking/filtering in a zigzag lined area up to the pedestrian crossing. In simple terms filtering is an overtaking manoeuvre so take that in to account and rules for zigzag lines. some say this is a northern website so could be Ireland White zigzags are commonly found either side of pedestrian crossings. They are designed to indicate that parking and overtaking in these zones is strictly prohibited. The same rule applies to yellow zigzag lines, which are found outside of schools, hospitals, police and fire stations. so some say no overtaking at all some say not the leading car or other motor at front. but heads up bikers have been given 3 points and fine for filtering / overtaking on zigzags and the one i mentioned was not the only one so i say look out for cops as you may get jobs worth looking to give tickets out. must admit tho you ride in to the city prob best ive seen any biker ride, many ride pants on fire but few moments i felt pass was not worth it just to much tight squeeze and cannot blame car drivers when the councils have daft idea putting cycle lanes all over making lanes more narrow, and 20 zones they eve have cameras for the 20 zones fines have gone up 700% because limit dose not suit road so easy to go over and now i think London is now the slowest city in the world to cross that crazy. 30 limit in busy areas were fine cause you do not drive a the limit you drive to conditions so if conditions don't allow you not going to be anywhere near the limit because that careless driving / riding, and 20 mph on duel wow it feel like to could jump out or off and run along side it be so slow
Some good points for consideration there Steve, thanks for the comment.
With regards to the highway code and zigzag lines (those at pedestrian crossings) there is a "should not" filter coming up to a crossing, which is done recklessly or too fast could get you a ticket. Also if you have an accident while participating in a "should not" rule although it's not illegal, you stand a good chance of loosing any claim. The "Must not" for the white zigzag is you can not overtake the first vehicle that is either moving or stopped. This will get you a ticket under Rule 191 of the highway code. The problem here is that if the vehicle is moving then you need to be very careful as to which one is considered "first" so best to avoid filtering all together in this instance if the traffic is moving at a zigzag.
Excellent video. Thank you
I commute by bike up the A12 right into central london too, I've always used that dashed cycle line on the approach to the redbridge roundabout lol
That's the most congested part of my journey.
And if I'm honest, it was really frustrating going through the middle there. I know this will upset some people on here but I think I will use it at a slower speed. I mean it's an ACL which means we should avoid using it, not an MCL which means we MUST not use it.
Exactly, I remember asking a question about that exact section on r/motouk and got decently educated on what the lines mean for cycle lanes. Also, especially in the London area I always think the police would have to be malicious to stop me, on my big BMW who rides fairly sedately, and not the thousands of deliveroo and just eat mopeds who ride like it's death race 2000 😂
Great videos but the advisory cycle lane is almost a red herring. If the traffic is moving it’s undertaking and an easy offence(yes I know mopeds do it all the time). If stationary you can filter BUT you’ll be held 50/50 liable in an accident. See Fagan V Jeffers (2005).
I cannot imagine riding in London. It is so easy to take the wrong way.
Yes it's a bit congested.
I was taught that you can only filter up to the rear of the vehicle at traffic lights and not go to the front.
I'm not sure if this is still a rule? It was back in 1996 when I passed.
I find the A13 a better route in.
Sort of correct correct, Rule 191 highway code. This rule only applies if the traffic lights (or crossing) has a white zigzag line. then you can only filter up to the back of the front car.
@@pinnacle_moto Ah, makes sense 👍
Love that you do a low speed commute on that 1000sx. My commute is only 5 miles with max speed limit of 40, but you’re making me want to upgrade from my Honda CB500x! 😂. Had been telling myself that a 1000sx would be ridiculously inappropriate for my commute, but seems to be perfectly fine for you.
Also, really enjoying the content. Like Royal Jordanian but with added useful commentary, what’s not to like!
Thank you mate. The z1000sx is very easy to ride at low speeds. Only disadvantages it would have is the agility and the fuel consumption. But I’ve done the commute on the wife’s ninja 650 and there’s not much in it.
I will never understand how people have the patience to take one of those rolling metal cages into London. Traffic is already a nightmare on a bike, a car would be even worse. At least with the tube you can go on your phone.
Oh but it gives them the extra time to apply makeup, read the paper, facetime their family, catch up on social media, VLOG, eat breakfast etc. :)
Very good job overall. Nice bit of restraint where necessary. Mostly a good safety bubble (a bit compromised in a couple of spots) and you're considering the legality.
I'd use the advisory cycle lane there, but very carefully and slowly. As you correctly identified, you're not breaking any law by using it, but be aware that in the case of an accident, it's something you shouldn't have done. My opinion is that you are safer making slow progress on the left than with cars both sides of you. You're aware of the dangers (doors opening, people crossing) and making the necessary adjustments (not bombing down there at the speed limit!
Going on Amber and Red, on the other hand... is a MUST NOT.
I like to give myself a SLAP when I'm considering any manoeuvre:
S - is it Safe?
L - is it Legal? (Notice the prioritisation of Safe before Legal)
A - does it gain an Advantage (is one car length worth it?)
P - how will it be Perceived by other road users? Are they going to thing "nice biker" and have a good attitude towards other bikers? Or the opposite?
For example, I wouldn't have moved back to Lane 1 on the A12 on approach to Newbury Park station because:
S - cars are always waiting to pull out of that junction so it's not Safe
L - it's not a Legal requirement to pull back to lane 1 so staying in 2 is perfectly fine
A - no Advantage either way so not applicable
P - you're not holding up anyone, doing the speed limit, so no Perception issue
Good bit of riding, nice video.
My Z1000SX will very soon (maybe as soon as tomorrow) be in for valve clearance check service and also investigate why the engine management light has come on (manual says issue in the DFI system, I'm betting the O2 sensor has taken exception to some of the puddles I rode through last Sunday) Got new tyres on it too. Been an expensive couple of weeks, but I'm getting it ready for Scotland.
I'm making plans to head up on a UK tour as well with a friend who just got a Z1000sx. Probably going to be August though.
Cool, @@pinnacle_moto - another local on a Z1000SX? I'll be going to Folembray end of August, then plan to go on a little tour after.
@@NooBiker He's a bit further out Chelmsford way but I'll introduce him to you when the next time we meet up. Is that the bank holiday weekend when you are going?. That's the date I'm planning on as well.
@@pinnacle_moto yeah we should meet up at some stage. The group's leaving on Saturday 17th, on track Sunday 18th. I then plan to split up from them and explore somewhere (not decided yet) for a week or so.
When a relitively clear open road ( which should be 30 or 40) is set to 20, It is so obviousely stupid to nearly everyone that it actually makes a mokery of the law and IMO it encourages further transgressions Hopefully the backlash in Wales will spread to other parts of the country.
I'm surprised Americans didn't post how awful lane filtering is. I'm lucky I'm in California the only State where this is legal. The mopeds on the bike lane cracked me up! 😂
Do you have progression licenses in the states?. I did another video on the complexity of how it is in the UK and limitations on the CC and power of the engine.
In UK Mopeds with L plates is like entry level and most of them I've experience had absolutely no clue about the highway code.
@@pinnacle_moto we don't, we take what is called the MSF course. Basically you go for 3 days, part is class room, the rest is on the range. Once you pass that you go get your license and that beautiful R1 and then die lol. It really is that easy. You guys are way more advanced. We do have more advanced training but it is up to the rider to do it.
Not all car drivers are dicks, some actually try to help out a little where possible, quite possibly bikers themselves but happen to be driving their car.
There are many car drivers now that ride motorcycles.
Motorcycle riders make much better car drivers.
The one law that should be passed is a ban on U turns in traffic for cars and vans, they often swing around when they see traffic come to a stand still, but on main roads they often don't bother looking properly and just go, ban cars and vans from doing these U turns on main roads, except where right of way has been given, ie if traffic stops for them after they have been indicating.
100% agree.
I got knocked off my bike back in '97 by a car doing a u turn across 4 lanes to park outside of a bank on the other side of the road. I wasn't even filtering at that time but still ended up in hospital.
@@pinnacle_moto Yes that does seem to be a big problem with cars especially, they don't look when doing U turns, I have come across a quite a few people that have been knocked off or ploughed into by cars doing U turns.
I'm surprised no one has seen fit to look at the laws on U turns.
Chemtrails.
Are they not the vapour trails left by aircraft?
I'm confused as to what you are saying :)