in 2013 Ribéry won everything and Ronaldo won nothing, Ronaldo won it then 2018 again Ronaldo won everything and Modric won because he had an outstanding performance in the world cup
I hardly comment online, but this analysis is so correct and straightforward. And it shatters the argument that the ballondor is not an award for the best player in the World Cup. But now I realize how big the World Cup is. It’s the whole world involved and it happens once in 4 years. It therefore should carry more weight. Plus Messi numbers is also very close to Hallan’s and he is more skilled than hallan in every area. The only thing hallan has more in the year was goals, which he had already been given. The ballondor is not a number of goals award. Messi deserves the Ballondor !!
@@syrupNpenaltiesAs a fellow football viewer, I highly recommend you to watch the actual games rather than counting penalties (and penalty shootouts). Goals determine a good finisher, all actions on the pitch determine a good player overall. Anw hope that helps improve your ball knowledge from zero.
In my opinion you missed one thing about the world cup. It was Messis last chance to win it and the pressure on him at this tournament could not have been bigger. Everyone else in the world did say Argentina could not win it, the Copa win was luck and the teams were too weak. After Maradonas death, everyone in Argentina expected with the help from above cause they are religious Messi has to win it now. And then they started with the loss against Saudi Arabia which made it even harder than it already was. So every goal, every assist, every game he had unbelievable pressure and he did it. No other player in the world cup has this pressure like him, absolutely no one. The penalties were his hardest in his carreer and are not comparable to others in other games. And thats why he deserve the ballon d'or.
bro because of the history of an entire nation a person is not fit enough to win the ballon d'or for eg:- if someone from Morocco like hakimi or ziyech won the World Cup it doesn't mean they will win the ballon d'or come on dude use some logic
@@unitedgamingff5833 Really Marocco? How much pressure did the players from Marocco have in the world cup? Mental strength and personality is something Messi does not have they said all the years. He missed the penalties in the Copas all the years before and he wanted to quit the national career, no he did and come back. He proved them wrong. He played with 35 years an amazing world cup and also had 20 assists and 20 goals for Paris with 35. Yes he did not have a good Champions League but it was not only his fault, Mbappe was also very bad against Bayern Munich and also Hakimi and the others. He is not only an striker like Haaland. He creates and scores, his impact in the games is so much bigger. De Bruyne would be better than Haaland at the second place. The assist against Netherlands was the best assisst at the world cup and one of the best ever.
@@csymoni bro i was talking about history nd ballon d'or is definitely not awarded to the person in the most pressure If it were this way then David Beckham would've won one during the world Cup where he scored to stay in it
See my comment under the vid: Make 20 + mins video including mbappe. Featuring on if wc performance is that important for ballon d'or, then why didn't mbappe finish second? My argument Mbappe had a wonderful season, mbappe is trailing by only 2 goals compared to halland, scored hatrick in wc final. Was wc golden boot winner. What i feel is even if mbappe had won the wc, he would never have won the ballon d'or. Turns out d'or rules are different for messi and other players.
@@apurvz5466Mbappé was nothing without Messi. The goals he scored was because of Messi. Messi's wonderful passes made Mbappé score. And Mbappé wasn't that involved like Messi. Messi was the only player to win two golden balls in World Cup. Messi was the only player to score in every round of the World Cup. Messi was the only player to win motm in every round of the World Cup. Winning trophies doesn't matter only. Performances matter as well. And some dumb Ronaldo fans think Messi won the ballon d'or because of the World Cup. First they used to say the World Cup was rigged, and now forgot the World Cup and started saying, Robbed ballon d'or. Bro you have to look on their Performances. And Haaland was nowhere seen in the FA Cup Final, FA Community Shield, UCL semis and Finals. And he wasn't even awarded the ucl player of the tournament. It was Rodri. You have to look on the Performances, G+A, trophies and awards, performance in important matches, and how important you were for your team. Ballon d'or is not only awarded to the players who have scored a lot of goals and has a lot of G+A. If that's the case, Messi would have won the ballon d'or in 2016, 2017 and 2018. That would have been four in a row including the 2019 ballon d'or as well. And winning a treble is not a small thing, I have to admit. But you have to perform your best to win the most prestigious individual award in Football. I don't say Haaland didn't perform well, but he has to be involved in big matches.
its so easy to humble ronaldo fans "Haaland won the treble" So did ribery in 2013. And ronaldo won ballon dor. "Its not fair to win the ballon dor cause of the world cup" Modric in 2018. cannavaro in 2006. Zidane 1998. R9 2002. "Messi has 3 champions leagues not 4" By this logic, ronaldo doesnt have an euro. lmao
@@nifynitm ok, so by your logic golden wc ball and wc = Ballon dor? They still won the wc, Messi didnt won WC neither golden wc ball in 2010 and won Ballon dor
@@armstrongeditz7602 no! i didnt even finish your comment but shut up! we all know youre nothing but a hater looking fir an excuse. actually fuck off and shut up
you ronaldo fans have no ball knowledge in 2010 iniesta was injured half the season scoring 3 goals 9 assists and in the world cup he wasnt the top scorer or assister for spain and for 2018 mbappe didnt carry france at all but messi didnt win the ballond'or modric did@@spoof387
Let's be honest To Haters and plastic fans of FOOTBALL They said: "It's not a senior career trophy. Show us the senior level world cup trophy." Messi won the Olympic Gold in 2008: They said: "Olympic tournament isn't organised by FIFA. It's not a FIFA tournament." Messi lost World Cup final in 2014. No one said Messi is a FIFA boy. No one said it's scripted. Everyone trolled his world cup final lost moments. Messi lost 2007, 2015, 2016 Copa America finals. No one showed sympathy. Rather all of them criticised him for an senior career internationaltrophy. Everyone made him club legend, though he was the Argentina's leading all time top scorer. Later, Messi won Copa America in 2021. Suddenly, that international trophy (Copa America) became a Micky Mouse trophy. The trophy lost its value suddenly. They tried to show that European champions are stronger. Messi won the Finalissima in 2022. Messi's Argentina beat European champions Italy. They started saying "Italy didn't qualify for world cup. It's not a strong team. European strong teams are France, Netherlands, Belgium bla bla bla..." Finally Messi won the world cup 2022. Messi's Argentina beat European Giants Netherlands in Quarter finals, Croatia in Semi finals, France in Finals. They are now saying "Messi is a FIFA boy, everything is scripted. Messi buys everything." Where was FIFA when Messi lost 3 consecutive finals? Where was FIFA when Messi took retirement from football? Where was FIFA when France got 2 penalties in the world cup final? You are the same guy who trolled Olympic gold medal winning campaign, because it was not a directly FIFA organised tournament. When Messi took retirement from football ? Where was FIFA when France got 2 penalties in the world cup final? You are the same guy who trolled Olympic gold medal winning campaign, because it was not a directly FIFA organised tournament. You are the same guy who trolled Messi for winning FIFA Youth World Cup in 2005. Now Messi won FIFA organised Senior career world cup. But you guys making new theory. Actually I am talking about the most shameless fan base in the history of football. You guys pollutes football. Stop supporting it. It's not your GAME. 😌👉☮️🌎❤️👈👏👏👏👏👏
You are absolutely correct. Messi absolutely deserves the award. Harland was amazing except it was a world cup year and Messi was amazing. If it wasn't a world cup year, Harland should have won. Also absolutely right that the controversy is partly created by Messi for having such a high standard and being so successful. When a person wins so frequently, it always creates the feeling that someone else should win. It would have been an absolute crime if Messi didn't win. What a player. It will be Harland, Mbabpe and Bellingham turn after this year.
THAT IS SO TRUE I UNDERSTAND HIS HATERS HE IS TO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL THE OTHERS. THEY THINK HI DONT ACT LIKE A BOXER ON THE PUTCH THEY NT SEEING HIM SHOWING HIS BIG ABDOS AND HIS HIGH JUMPING SKILLS. HE NT PERFORMING MR UNIVERS OF BODY BUILDING ON THE PITCH.
Great video. You really explained it perfectly and objectively. Now those who say its rigged and robbery, either they dont watch football or they are salty. But when youre the best, you will get the most hate.
Another point, messi has the highest average player rating in all competition. He has more MOTM award than Haaland and Mbappe COMBINED. The fact that, half of the top 10 ballon d'or candidates are man city players, just shows that their achievements was more of a team effort rather than individual brilliance.
I am Messi fan since I started watching football from 2010 and In our current generation Haaland is my favourite player, Even Haaland said in an interview few years ago that Messi will Ballon d'or in 2025 but It turned out to be in 2023 against himself.
Robbery? Messi is the greatest player to ever grace the pitch. He is poetry in motion, his skills are other worldly. When he retires things will go back to normal but for now...He is the undisputed GOAT. 💙⚽️🇦🇷🐐
Even as a Ronaldo fan, I don't need any explanations. Messi clearly deserved it. World Cup is the biggest Tournament of Football. It was Messi's last world cup, in which he gave everything he had, and won it. He truly deserved it❤
As a ronaldo fan i completely agree that messi won it fairly and not rigged it haaland was incredble but didnt perform as messi did . Haalanad only scored goals while messi carried his team providing incredible passes, playmaking and also scored goals
yeah i think this ballondor was a flip of a coin but Messi deserves 7 Ballondors since 2021 Lewandowski deserved it since he won Bundesliga, Dfl Supercup, club world cup, and Uefa supercup 4 trophies (2 more than Messi). He performed well even at international level scoring to earn Poland a draw with Spain and being very good vs Sweden. He also got the golden boot and had more G/A then Messi (65-62). Messi did do very good for Argentina and won himself his first copa america, but I think lewandowski slightly edges one of the goats.
yeah but ronaldo edges messi in my opinion in those years because he won pretty much all of the trophies in 2016 and 2017 and he was very good in 2018 too@@eLectric_692
Bro really said that the ballon d'Or is given to players who have the best performance every season and said that Modric's ballon d'Or is not fair and that Messi deserved it. AVERAGE MESSI FAN OF COURSE U SAID THAT ITS NOT FAIR
The only reason Haaland didn’t win is because of the balon dor criteria “importance to team” and “big game performance.” He was on a super team man city. Rodri kdb Ruben Dias. All names that were arguably same importance as him. And big game performances. Didn’t score or assist in fa cup final, ucl semi final and final. Uefa super cup final. Messi however was more consistent at the same level as Haaland, which is why he won.
Bruh it's not Messi's Fault, Can't we just leave him alone and well he didn't even care about winning his 8th Ballon D'or He said that in a interview And if u don't wanna ur a Ronaldo fan Support Both G.O.A.Ts While we Messi fans are saying nothing about Ronaldo,Ronaldo fans are always against Messi so Cry if u want Ronaldo FANS
The true meaning of this award is “Which player with enough stats to represent modern football this year”. When this award is given to all different positions of players in 1 sport. It can’t be fair. Hence other award existed.
People should understand the immense pressure on Messi at this World Cup. Argentina hadn't won since 1986 with the great Maradona, and they were hungry and frustrated, the entire country. It was the one trophy Messi couldn't conquer. Every PK, every touch, every game was a cauldron, and Messi somehow managed to score, create and lead, I've never seen anything like it, simply amazing. And by the way, if Di Maria had stayed in the final another ten minutes Argentina would have won in regular time; and the Montiel handball was, to me, a very unnecessary call ...
"Pretty similar numbers" except one was farming in the french league which realistically shouldn't be even considered top 5 in Europe, while the other was breaking all-time standing records in the best league in the world, people can't be serious with this shit goddamit
Honestly I’m kinda tired of people saying Messi carried yes I’m a Ronaldo fan but not because of that no one gave di Maria and Emi Martinez credit in the World Cup Messi did score in the final quarter final semi final but Argentina got so many penalties and Martinez saved 2 penalties no one gives credit to goalkeepers
Messi deserve more than that he only have 8 and millions of haters they have to give him the super ballon d’or Messi is football he is just the best player of that hole galaxy no one like him
Scoring more goals makes you the best striker or best forward or best goal scorer not the best player. To be the best player, you need to be best at the most of the categories of the game example: Goal.scoring Assists Playmaking Impact on the game Roles on the them while wining trophies Most Man of the match Trophies won Now, Halland Vs Messi for balloon d'Or (best player) Now as we know that halland got more goal, Goals scored = Halland Assist = Messi Playmaking = Messi Impact on the game = Messi Roles on the team while winning trophies = Messi Most man of the match = Messi Trophies won = equal 3-3 (but since world cup is the most prestigious trophy out there in this sports) Messi So best player Halland 1 Messi 6 So the clear winner is messi and don't bring the debate again and cry, Learn football before you pass on your opinion about football.
It is clear that you do not watch football properly, if you do you wouldnt focus so much on messi and u wouls also give real facts about Halaand, Im a Messi fan but since 2021 I have realized he only wins the ballondor because his name is messi. If you want some real football facts just ask me, do not go telling your opinion out without having enough football knowledge, 4/7 of messis goals were penalties meanwhile Haaland's goals werent many penalties, you can say tap ins, then bring me a clip with 10 haaland tap ins. Just gotta teach these people sone facts
@@olis7316thx for spitting out lies now we know not to reply to you LMAO. Saying 4 out of 7 of messi goals were penalties meaning he did 20 penalties out of 35 goals he scored LOL. Lets see u pull up haaland scoring a free kick then LOL
the second this guy said ronaldo fans and haaland fans thinks that its a robbery instead of saying some people think so ....i knew it was gonna be biased....but anyway this time messi deserved it.
@@farisredhae Ronaldo is overrated too. To an extent they are great players but gifting them with awards for little or no contribution has made both of them overrated. It is underlying fact that in last 15 years there were players who performed far better than messi and ronaldo like Ribery , Robben, Sneijder but they were robbed coz of messi ronaldo hype.
Why Messi won his 8th Balloon D’Or by Ade Divine The justification for Messi's Ballon d'Or win is not simply that he won the World Cup. The justification for Messi's 2023 Ballon d'Or win is about how he won the World Cup. It's about the manner in which he won it. Winning it and how you go about it are two different things. CROSS-EXAMINATION Now let's cross-examine MESSI and HAALAND. In the period considered for the award (1st August to 31st July), HAALAND scored 53 goals and provided 9 assists, winning a historic treble (League, FA Cup and Champions League). However, it doesn't suffice to say 'bah he won a treble!'. One of the criteria for the award of the Ballon d'Or reads "Individual performance, crucial actions". Yes, HAALAND finished top scorer in the EPL and won it, but that can be cancelled out by Messi finishing top assist provider in Ligue 1 and winning it as well. Yes, HAALAND won the FA Cup but how crucial was he in the biggest moment, the final? He had little or no impact as Gundogan won it for City. Now onto the huge prize he won , the UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE; he emerged top scorer with 11 goals but again we ask 'how crucial was he in the biggest stages?' that made the headlines. He failed to score in the semis and in the finals. Those are the games that should have won it for him. Ghosting in the group stage and scoring in the semis against mighty Real and in the finals would have helped his chances more. Big games win you the Ballon d'Or. MESSI'S DIFFERENCE That's where Messi, who got himself an underrated 38 goals and 25 assists in the period, comes in with the "how he did it" regarding his World Cup win. While HAALAND missed the tournament and was quite unfortunate that it was scheduled in the 2022-23 calendar (2023 Ballon d'Or period), Messi delivered a performance that can only be compared to what the likes of Pele and Maradona did in the tournament. He emerged best player in the tournament , and 2nd top scorer (7 goals); he became the only player in history to record an assist in 5 World Cups, equalling Pele's record of 6 assists in the knockout phase; he became the only player in history to score a World Cup goal in his teens, twenties and thirties; he became the player with most man of the match awards (11), among others, and he scored twice in the final. There is no way, the Ballon d'Or won't jump at a chance to honour a man that has shaken the very foundations of history in the greatest international tournament. It comes down to the "how" each player won their biggest prizes. If Messi won the World Cup without such outstanding stats, we wouldn't have been holding this discussion. HAALAND would have been clear. If France had beaten Argentina, we would have been holding a Mbappe-Haaland debate instead. Congratulations to Lionel Messi! Well deserved!
Objectively he didnt deserve it for last season , but in general hes been one of best players in past 15 years so no one can get mad honestly . Also you cant compare ligue1 with Premier league . Julian Alvarez and Enzo Fernandez along others were pure class in world cup .
But B4 the WC no body had that opinion. C'mon you must be blind and really unfair to say that. For the first time I hear people say a Player who won the WC as the best player in that tournament doesn't deserve to win the BDO since 1995. It had never happened. They both deserved to win but the votes decided the winner. If you start to compare leagues, then Why do you underrate the WC!? Is that really simple to win it just because Messi won it last year!? Hypocrisy of the highest level. Where was Halaand when Messi was winning the WC!!? Do you really think that if Halaand was the winner, all people would have accepted that he deserves it without having people who said Messi was robbed!? Definitely no. ! Ligue 1 and French super cup are not big like the UCL or the EPL but the WC is the biggest of all combined. Do you know why players like Maradona, Ronaldo Nazario, and Pele are regarded as the Goats of the sport!? Because of the WC nothing else. They have never won UCL but their legendary performances in the WC put them there with the very best.
If messi was better than halland ,then mbappe was better than messi .In league game he was beast winning psg player of the year ,league 1 top scorer overall best player in league 1 ,and when we look at wc mbappe was absolutely beast ,only thing is he was not able to touch wc trophy but that game play in final and overall games were really good .He was beast in wc too , winning top scorer award ,so overall season watching psg and wc performance mbappe comes first than messi ,messi was good only in wc ,but overall mbappe was better .
Kaka once said that winning in the World Cup doesn’t change anything. messi is a genius but right now the most complete and goat is Cristiano Ronaldo he single-handedly is on the most large players of all time I would not like to say much more or much less but we all should agree that Ronaldo is the goat Messi is the second best player in the world Neymar also potential but with his injuries he could not be on the pinnacle
Messi 2010: MESSI DESERVED IT Messi played more games Messi stats 60 goals 17 assist 64 app UCL Messi top scorer 12 goals 1 assist League stats Top scorer 36 apps 15 assists 42 goal That one Iniesta goal doesn't change anything😂 In 2015 G/A Messi:58 goals 31 assist 89 G/A Suarez 25 Goals 24 assist 49 G/A Neymar: 39 Goals 11 assist 50 G/A explains this 2019 Messi deserved it carrying barca team very hard And liver pool had the best defender at the time UCL stats top scorer Even though Messi got knocked out before final 5 assist 8 goals (most g/a) 58 apps 18 assists 50 goals 2021: Messi vs Lewangoalski MESSI: 37 GOALS 14 assists dribbles 203 MOTMS 26 invidiual awards 5 Lewangoalski 50 goals 8 assist 43 dribbles 15 motms 4 individual awards Messi thropies with team Copa del ray Copa america Individual La Liga top scorer Copa America Top Scorer and Assister Copa America Pot records broken Most NT GOALS in conmebol Most goals for a single club Lewangoalski thropies and achievements Team Bundesliga Club World Cup Individual awards Bundesliga top scorer European gold shoe Cwc Golden ball records broken Most goals in Bundesliga season Messi gets this because of Copa America 2023 Messi g/a is 67 and haaland g/a 66 during Ballon d'or period Messi: Won lareus award, FIFA best, MOTM, 9.0 rating in WC final And Also won motm Won motm every world Cup round most g/a in Europe (In the d'or voting period) Game achievements Ligue 1,WC, French Super Cup, and other individual awards Hayland got 0 g/a in every completion semi finals and final😂 "But he only penalty" Messi has a dribbler play style so the only way to stop him is to foul Messi is also Argentina's main player so he gets more penalties unlike Ronaldo (no disrespect) on the bench Argentina also played the most matches cause they reached the finals Anyways Ronaldo score 60 more penalties than Messi and Ronaldo is top penalty scorer Y'all won 3 ucls because you got away with offside😂 2013 Ballon d'or was extended for the first time and Ronaldo won it after that Ronaldo robbed Bayern of ucl 2016 and 2017 In 2016 euro there was a special rule for that year in which if ur country is third in group stage you still qualify Ronaldo and modric robbed Messi 2 ballon d'ors 2016 Ronaldo 55 goals 16 assist 2016 Messi 59 goals and 31 assist 2018 modric g/a + Ronaldo g/a 76 where messi is 77 g/a😂😂😂😂😂
No use bro.....This haters get jealous of his success, but they know that he was undoubtedly the winner....Nice sentence - "Victim of his own sucess".....Messi is Infinity🐐
Tbf if you guys think messi deserved this, then modric not only had a great season with madrid, but taking croatia to a WC final, something they didnt ever reach in their history, they only finished 3rd thanks to players like suker, and the fact that they beat out teams like argentina and england speaks volumes and while modric wasnt the only reason they reached to the final, take him out of both madrid and croatia, they'd underperform by a country mile, modric is never a stats beast, but the way he plays is where hes ahead of many many players, not to mention the longevity
World Cup was also rigged. How many penalties did he score in the World Cup? Yes, Argentina's total of five penalties awarded this tournament has been the most of any World Cup edition since 1966 - ahead of Portugal (1966) and the Netherlands (1978). Just saying.
So long story short: Haaland is impressive but he isn’t clutch enough. He still have a lot of time though to win Ballon dor(s) if he could maintain this consistency and become more clutch.
So this is how many d'ors messi and ronaldo should have: Ronaldo: 5. He did rob ribbery in 2013 but then he got robbed in 2018 so it stays the same... Messi: 4. Messi Clearly didn't deserve 2010, 2019, 2021 and this year.... but if i would count 2015 (neymar) he woild have 3 which is kinda harsh.... and tho even people think neymar deserved it i think messi was slightly better (as a ronaldo fan i respect messi)
As a dutch man i was very pissed after our match in the wc i started to turn againsr messi. But after this video i kind of changed my mind. Although is still think that some of the games where not fair(please dont start a world war in the comments) it is true that messi scored a lot but looking at were most of those goals came from pens were i think 13 out of 20 goals from messi the entire wc(adjust me if im wrong) Which i think kind of makes sense.
Ronaldo in 2013 did deserved it because the ballon d’or is based on stats Ronaldo scored 69 goals so he did deserved it but Messi in 2023 did deserved it because he won the World Cup
some times i think that 2 years after Ronaldo was born.god realised how arrogant he would be if he becomes the number 1 footballer in the world.so he created a humble player who would be better than him in all remifactions to keep him from actually reaching the full arrogance of being number one.and that is how Messi was born..
I agree with this video and the arguments are solid but to the people that say Messi deserved the ballondor just because he is the greatest of all time is pretty questionable, I mean of course he is but that does not mean he deserves it every year
People don’t think it’s rigged because ur wins it often💀 First of all the World Cup was obviously rigged💀 Messi literally recreated the hand of god 😂 Don’t forget it’s 2022 not back in the 20th century we have V.A.R
Messi fan alert 🚨!!!!!, bro haaland deserved it, doesn’t matter if he didn’t score in the final, his team made it to the final because he scored in earlier matches bro
In every wcup year,its the player with the standout performance in the tournament that always wins the balondor so penaldogs should give us a break.Messi had a goal contribution of 66 goals I.e 38 goals n 25 assists fr both club n country so it was not just about the wcup.Haaland had 56 goals n 10 assists thats a contribution of 66 goals only 3 more than Messi's 63.So Haaland only ahead coz of goals n messi ahead on assists n literally every other stat.Plus he delivered when it mattered,Haaland ghosted when it mattered in the biggest games at the end of the season.That's the difference that's why Messi 100% justified to win his record 8th balondor.
its 4 goals from penalties and 3 open goals with 3 assists and i am not counting the chances messi created and the impact he has on the team. Also if scoring a penalty is so easy why don't everyone have 100 % penalty conversion rate.Do you know who has most penalty goals ,yeah its cristiano ronaldo
Messi fans dressing the entire world as ronaldo fans is crazy. Simple question, what could he have done better on the pitch to win it?!?! Messi if it wasn't for martinez wouldn't have won the final. Messi got destroyed by bayern, did absolutely nothing in that UCL game, haaland had good chances against madrid just that courtois was on fire.
If it wasn't for KDB wouldn't Haaland don't record goal in pl.If it wasn't for Rodri Haaland wouldn't have won the final.He don't even score in semi final.It's why Messi fans use performance in big game as criteria.Your logic is so dumb.
@@mobstat9966Remind me how they got to the finals. You'll complain that others miss good chances because of their bad positioning but when Haaland has excellent positioning and makes good use of the chances created for him you call him a tap in merchant. Peak hypocrisy.
@@eusebio_9 What are you talking about ?I don't even talk of tap ins here.If someone talk penalty for Argentina,there i will talk of tap ins.Stay lucid.
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in 2013 Ribéry won everything and Ronaldo won nothing, Ronaldo won it then 2018 again Ronaldo won everything and Modric won because he had an outstanding performance in the world cup
Ronaldo deserved in 2018
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Modric also won everything just not individual awards
@@himansurai4179doesn't deserve it in 2013 tho
@@SebastianGamee-qk7vf so he doesn't deserve it right? According to ballon dor logic Ronaldo is clear
He did rob! He robbed everyone’s hearts!!!! ❤
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You are absolutely right.GOAT LEO really robbed our hearts.🐐👑🥰🦁🔥💗⚽🇦🇷♾️💕😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
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Ronaldo fans to Haaland fans: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
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@@SevenRealms-lx9hc it’s a mission name in modern warfare 2 2009
@@ST3PH3NGT oh lol. 😂 I know nothing about cod as I was an og Fortnite player before I switched to fifa.
I hardly comment online, but this analysis is so correct and straightforward. And it shatters the argument that the ballondor is not an award for the best player in the World Cup. But now I realize how big the World Cup is. It’s the whole world involved and it happens once in 4 years. It therefore should carry more weight. Plus Messi numbers is also very close to Hallan’s and he is more skilled than hallan in every area. The only thing hallan has more in the year was goals, which he had already been given. The ballondor is not a number of goals award. Messi deserves the Ballondor !!
Messi number in farmer's league is half lesser than halaand
And his world cup is won on 6 penalties and 2 penalty shootout in 7 game tournament 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@syrupNpenalties Cry Baby 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@@GoatShopnil GROAT
@@syrupNpenaltiesBro forgot ronaldo form in world cup
@@syrupNpenaltiesAs a fellow football viewer, I highly recommend you to watch the actual games rather than counting penalties (and penalty shootouts). Goals determine a good finisher, all actions on the pitch determine a good player overall. Anw hope that helps improve your ball knowledge from zero.
In my opinion you missed one thing about the world cup.
It was Messis last chance to win it and the pressure on him at this tournament could not have been bigger.
Everyone else in the world did say Argentina could not win it, the Copa win was luck and the teams were too weak.
After Maradonas death, everyone in Argentina expected with the help from above cause they are religious Messi has to win it now.
And then they started with the loss against Saudi Arabia which made it even harder than it already was.
So every goal, every assist, every game he had unbelievable pressure and he did it.
No other player in the world cup has this pressure like him, absolutely no one.
The penalties were his hardest in his carreer and are not comparable to others in other games.
And thats why he deserve the ballon d'or.
bro because of the history of an entire nation a person is not fit enough to win the ballon d'or
for eg:- if someone from Morocco like hakimi or ziyech won the World Cup it doesn't mean they will win the ballon d'or
come on dude use some logic
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Really Marocco? How much pressure did the players from Marocco have in the world cup?
Mental strength and personality is something Messi does not have they said all the years.
He missed the penalties in the Copas all the years before and he wanted to quit the national career, no he did and come back.
He proved them wrong.
He played with 35 years an amazing world cup and also had 20 assists and 20 goals for Paris with 35.
Yes he did not have a good Champions League but it was not only his fault, Mbappe was also very bad against Bayern Munich and also Hakimi and the others.
He is not only an striker like Haaland.
He creates and scores, his impact in the games is so much bigger.
De Bruyne would be better than Haaland at the second place.
The assist against Netherlands was the best assisst at the world cup and one of the best ever.
@@csymoni bro i was talking about history nd ballon d'or is definitely not awarded to the person in the most pressure
If it were this way then David Beckham would've won one during the world Cup where he scored to stay in it
@@unitedgamingff5833I think to some extent it did affect the voters how messi won the tournament
It doesn't matter about his personal issues but that is probably a reason why they gave Messi the d'Or. They always find one reason to give it to him.
I actually thought that Ballon D'or wasnt fair, but now I think Messi deserves it
Nobody cares about what you think.
Same
See my comment under the vid:
Make 20 + mins video including mbappe. Featuring on if wc performance is that important for ballon d'or, then why didn't mbappe finish second? My argument Mbappe had a wonderful season, mbappe is trailing by only 2 goals compared to halland, scored hatrick in wc final. Was wc golden boot winner. What i feel is even if mbappe had won the wc, he would never have won the ballon d'or. Turns out d'or rules are different for messi and other players.
@@apurvz5466Mbappé was nothing without Messi. The goals he scored was because of Messi. Messi's wonderful passes made Mbappé score. And Mbappé wasn't that involved like Messi. Messi was the only player to win two golden balls in World Cup. Messi was the only player to score in every round of the World Cup. Messi was the only player to win motm in every round of the World Cup. Winning trophies doesn't matter only. Performances matter as well. And some dumb Ronaldo fans think Messi won the ballon d'or because of the World Cup. First they used to say the World Cup was rigged, and now forgot the World Cup and started saying, Robbed ballon d'or. Bro you have to look on their Performances. And Haaland was nowhere seen in the FA Cup Final, FA Community Shield, UCL semis and Finals. And he wasn't even awarded the ucl player of the tournament. It was Rodri. You have to look on the Performances, G+A, trophies and awards, performance in important matches, and how important you were for your team. Ballon d'or is not only awarded to the players who have scored a lot of goals and has a lot of G+A. If that's the case, Messi would have won the ballon d'or in 2016, 2017 and 2018. That would have been four in a row including the 2019 ballon d'or as well. And winning a treble is not a small thing, I have to admit. But you have to perform your best to win the most prestigious individual award in Football. I don't say Haaland didn't perform well, but he has to be involved in big matches.
Just fine its already given and if any other recieve also I will be happy "I wish I also won it one"😅😅😅
Messi is so good that he makes the world cup seem like an easy trophy
dibu and di maria:
Martínez and Álvarez:
Lionel scaloni:
@syedabano5202 go cry and watch cocomelon, football ain’t the thing to you 💀💀💀
@@captainprice2575awww someone supports city…😂😂
its so easy to humble ronaldo fans
"Haaland won the treble"
So did ribery in 2013. And ronaldo won ballon dor.
"Its not fair to win the ballon dor cause of the world cup"
Modric in 2018. cannavaro in 2006. Zidane 1998. R9 2002.
"Messi has 3 champions leagues not 4"
By this logic, ronaldo doesnt have an euro.
lmao
for real its fun 😄 love the last example btw
So why Messi won in 2010? Iniesta and Xavi won the World Cup that year, even Sneidjer had won the treble and earned 2nd place in 2010
@@armstrongeditz7602 because none of those players also had the world cup golden ball
@@nifynitm ok, so by your logic golden wc ball and wc = Ballon dor? They still won the wc, Messi didnt won WC neither golden wc ball in 2010 and won Ballon dor
@@armstrongeditz7602 no! i didnt even finish your comment but shut up! we all know youre nothing but a hater looking fir an excuse. actually fuck off and shut up
Messi the greatest footballer ever. Deserve his Ballon dor.
agreed
not agreed 2018 wc mbappe carried psg and france how did he not win the ballondor??
@@tutuorialman1796 2010 iniesta aswell
@@tutuorialman1796he wasn’t the best wdym he carried france
you ronaldo fans have no ball knowledge in 2010 iniesta was injured half the season scoring 3 goals 9 assists and in the world cup he wasnt the top scorer or assister for spain and for 2018 mbappe didnt carry france at all but messi didnt win the ballond'or modric did@@spoof387
R9 in 2002 only played 9 games that season he won the ballon d'or and he won the World Cup
Mbappe should have win 2018 then
Then iniesta should win 2010
@@kamaaladiin he not the the best player but in tha year modric is th best player and he won the ballon dor
Let's be honest To Haters and plastic fans of FOOTBALL They said: "It's not a senior career trophy. Show us the senior level world cup trophy."
Messi won the Olympic Gold in 2008: They said: "Olympic tournament isn't organised by FIFA. It's not a FIFA tournament."
Messi lost World Cup final in 2014. No one said Messi is a FIFA boy. No one said it's scripted. Everyone trolled his world cup final lost moments.
Messi lost 2007, 2015, 2016 Copa America finals. No one showed sympathy. Rather all of them criticised him for an senior career internationaltrophy. Everyone made him club legend, though he was the Argentina's leading all time top scorer.
Later, Messi won Copa America in 2021.
Suddenly, that international trophy (Copa America) became a Micky Mouse trophy. The trophy lost its value suddenly. They tried to show that European champions are stronger.
Messi won the Finalissima in 2022. Messi's Argentina beat European champions Italy. They started saying "Italy didn't qualify for world cup. It's not a strong team. European strong teams are France, Netherlands, Belgium bla bla bla..."
Finally Messi won the world cup 2022. Messi's Argentina beat European Giants Netherlands in Quarter finals, Croatia in Semi finals, France in Finals.
They are now saying "Messi is a FIFA boy, everything is scripted. Messi buys everything."
Where was FIFA when Messi lost 3 consecutive finals? Where was FIFA when Messi took retirement from football? Where was FIFA when France got 2 penalties in the world cup final?
You are the same guy who trolled Olympic gold medal winning campaign, because it was not a directly FIFA organised tournament.
When Messi took retirement from football ? Where was FIFA when France got 2 penalties in the world cup final?
You are the same guy who trolled Olympic gold medal winning campaign, because it was not a directly FIFA organised tournament.
You are the same guy who trolled Messi for winning FIFA Youth World Cup in 2005. Now Messi won FIFA organised Senior career world cup. But you guys making new theory.
Actually I am talking about the most shameless fan base in the history of football. You guys pollutes football. Stop supporting it. It's not your GAME. 😌👉☮️🌎❤️👈👏👏👏👏👏
You are absolutely correct. Messi absolutely deserves the award. Harland was amazing except it was a world cup year and Messi was amazing. If it wasn't a world cup year, Harland should have won. Also absolutely right that the controversy is partly created by Messi for having such a high standard and being so successful. When a person wins so frequently, it always creates the feeling that someone else should win. It would have been an absolute crime if Messi didn't win. What a player. It will be Harland, Mbabpe and Bellingham turn after this year.
Then why didnt Iniesta,david villa,Klose,not griezmann won in theyre respective years?
@@suryrachman2829because they weren’t consistent like messi was
@@suryrachman2829Because they could not do more than the GOAT.🐐👑🦁🥰🔥💗⚽🇦🇷💕😘😘😘😘😘😘LEO MESSI Boss ♾️♾️♾️
@@47formancity consistent????? Tell me wtf did messi do in league 1 that season?
@@sumisarkar5791 And give me some valid reasons pls
When your too good that Every time u achieve something insane people will always say that its rigged or that he didnt deserve it
some ppl mention the world cup "mickey mouse trophy"
-barca legion
Throw as many facts at Ronaldo fans faces but still they call it rigged ir roberry
*Messi became victim of his own success*😢
THAT IS SO TRUE I UNDERSTAND HIS HATERS HE IS TO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL THE OTHERS. THEY THINK HI DONT ACT LIKE A BOXER ON THE PUTCH THEY NT SEEING HIM SHOWING HIS BIG ABDOS AND HIS HIGH JUMPING SKILLS. HE NT PERFORMING MR UNIVERS OF BODY BUILDING ON THE PITCH.
@@jeffscotland6499he didn't only a certain fanbase thinks so their opinion ain't 💩
You didn’t even mention Messi had the highest average match rating in all competitions.
THE GOAT
Nope
@@chickenagent494yes
No
@@chickenagent494you fool check the ratings Messi was the highest the season
@@chickenagent494yes mess had highest
Great video. You really explained it perfectly and objectively. Now those who say its rigged and robbery, either they dont watch football or they are salty. But when youre the best, you will get the most hate.
honestly i think mbappe deserved it ngl
@@rmachamp15 If we had won the world cup, surely we would deserved it. But thats a what if.
Thank you ❤❤❤
Another point, messi has the highest average player rating in all competition. He has more MOTM award than Haaland and Mbappe COMBINED. The fact that, half of the top 10 ballon d'or candidates are man city players, just shows that their achievements was more of a team effort rather than individual brilliance.
There are just too many arguments for Messi
So many fake stats but ok
I am Messi fan since I started watching football from 2010 and In our current generation Haaland is my favourite player, Even Haaland said in an interview few years ago that Messi will Ballon d'or in 2025 but It turned out to be in 2023 against himself.
At this point even if we tell the ronaldo and haaland fans why he won they will still call it rigged theres not point😂
Ronaldo won 2013. I can say it’s rigged
True
Trust me
Robbery? Messi is the greatest player to ever grace the pitch. He is poetry in motion, his skills are other worldly. When he retires things will go back to normal but for now...He is the undisputed GOAT. 💙⚽️🇦🇷🐐
Messi needs Awards to be considered as the goat
Messi isnt the goat
"The greatest player to ever grace the pitch."
Have you heard of Pele and Maradona?
Messi robbed most of his balon do'rs
Even as a Ronaldo fan, I don't need any explanations. Messi clearly deserved it. World Cup is the biggest Tournament of Football. It was Messi's last world cup, in which he gave everything he had, and won it.
He truly deserved it❤
2010 iniesta 🙂
😂😂😂😂
You're not a ron fan clown
@@d3nnisjoseph175he got 12 G/A so why would he win the ballon d’or
@@d3nnisjoseph1752013 ribery 🙂
Really good video you’re the goat
As a ronaldo fan i completely agree that messi won it fairly and not rigged it haaland was incredble but didnt perform as messi did . Haalanad only scored goals while messi carried his team providing incredible passes, playmaking and also scored goals
Do you think ronaldo is the goat?
@@daryawwxdwdy9710CR7 is the goat mf
For all the debaters, dig this......Messi doesnt need the Ballon Dor,,,,,,,,the Ballon Dor needs him!!!!!
Mate spitted out facts❤
6 minutes of barca legion speaking facts
yeah i think this ballondor was a flip of a coin but Messi deserves 7 Ballondors since 2021 Lewandowski deserved it since he won Bundesliga, Dfl Supercup, club world cup, and Uefa supercup 4 trophies (2 more than Messi). He performed well even at international level scoring to earn Poland a draw with Spain and being very good vs Sweden. He also got the golden boot and had more G/A then Messi (65-62). Messi did do very good for Argentina and won himself his first copa america, but I think lewandowski slightly edges one of the goats.
Messi was the best player on the planet in 2016/17/18 though so I think 8 is fair...
Messi in those years is incredibly underrated..
yeah but ronaldo edges messi in my opinion in those years because he won pretty much all of the trophies in 2016 and 2017 and he was very good in 2018 too@@eLectric_692
you might be right but i don’t think they voted the winner based on stats only
Truly the greatest robber of all time
Thanks, i undertsand that messi clearly deserves this because hes too good :))
@Barca Legion u helped me to learn football so much
Bro really said that the ballon d'Or is given to players who have the best performance every season and said that Modric's ballon d'Or is not fair and that Messi deserved it. AVERAGE MESSI FAN OF COURSE U SAID THAT ITS NOT FAIR
The only reason Haaland didn’t win is because of the balon dor criteria “importance to team” and “big game performance.” He was on a super team man city. Rodri kdb Ruben Dias. All names that were arguably same importance as him. And big game performances. Didn’t score or assist in fa cup final, ucl semi final and final. Uefa super cup final. Messi however was more consistent at the same level as Haaland, which is why he won.
No player is ever worth being compared to Messi. Let the jealous go and get eight Balloon D'or.
Bruh it's not Messi's Fault, Can't we just leave him alone and well he didn't even care about winning his 8th Ballon D'or He said that in a interview And if u don't wanna ur a Ronaldo fan Support Both G.O.A.Ts While we Messi fans are saying nothing about Ronaldo,Ronaldo fans are always against Messi so Cry if u want Ronaldo FANS
It's desperate Ronaldo fans who can't bear seeing Messi on top and their idol irrelevant. Otherwise, other sensible people agree that he deserved it👍
Call me crazy, KDB deserved to be 2nd or 3rd
You are crazy
He deset ed to be 3rd absoluetly
You are crazy
Nah, haaland literally got fed goals by only kdb and rodri. France football only look at goals
3rd or 4th in my opinion
Messi is the goat 🐐
No doubt
Messi Have no comparison with other players
The best video I've watched all year 😂😂
The true meaning of this award is “Which player with enough stats to represent modern football this year”. When this award is given to all different positions of players in 1 sport. It can’t be fair. Hence other award existed.
People should understand the immense pressure on Messi at this World Cup. Argentina hadn't won since 1986 with the great Maradona, and they were hungry and frustrated, the entire country. It was the one trophy Messi couldn't conquer. Every PK, every touch, every game was a cauldron, and Messi somehow managed to score, create and lead, I've never seen anything like it, simply amazing. And by the way, if Di Maria had stayed in the final another ten minutes Argentina would have won in regular time; and the Montiel handball was, to me, a very unnecessary call ...
Chill
"Pretty similar numbers" except one was farming in the french league which realistically shouldn't be even considered top 5 in Europe, while the other was breaking all-time standing records in the best league in the world, people can't be serious with this shit goddamit
Honestly I’m kinda tired of people saying Messi carried yes I’m a Ronaldo fan but not because of that no one gave di Maria and Emi Martinez credit in the World Cup Messi did score in the final quarter final semi final but Argentina got so many penalties and Martinez saved 2 penalties no one gives credit to goalkeepers
Messi the greatest footballer ever.
Whenever messi Won anything say rigged or robbed. This is average Ronaldo fan strategy
I am a messi fan but messi didn't deserve 2018 or 2023 ballondor
Messi deserve more than that he only have 8 and millions of haters they have to give him the super ballon d’or Messi is football he is just the best player of that hole galaxy no one like him
I don't think the world was shocked coz that exactly what we've been expected
Lot of players won the world cup in the past but none of them won a ballon dor
Messi is the best and he got it! 🎉😊
Scoring more goals makes you the best striker or best forward or best goal scorer not the best player.
To be the best player, you need to be best at the most of the categories of the game example:
Goal.scoring
Assists
Playmaking
Impact on the game
Roles on the them while wining trophies
Most Man of the match
Trophies won
Now, Halland Vs Messi for balloon d'Or (best player)
Now as we know that halland got more goal,
Goals scored = Halland
Assist = Messi
Playmaking = Messi
Impact on the game = Messi
Roles on the team while winning trophies = Messi
Most man of the match = Messi
Trophies won = equal 3-3 (but since world cup is the most prestigious trophy out there in this sports) Messi
So best player
Halland 1
Messi 6
So the clear winner is messi and don't bring the debate again and cry,
Learn football before you pass on your opinion about football.
It is clear that you do not watch football properly, if you do you wouldnt focus so much on messi and u wouls also give real facts about Halaand, Im a Messi fan but since 2021 I have realized he only wins the ballondor because his name is messi. If you want some real football facts just ask me, do not go telling your opinion out without having enough football knowledge, 4/7 of messis goals were penalties meanwhile Haaland's goals werent many penalties, you can say tap ins, then bring me a clip with 10 haaland tap ins. Just gotta teach these people sone facts
@@olis7316thx for spitting out lies now we know not to reply to you LMAO. Saying 4 out of 7 of messi goals were penalties meaning he did 20 penalties out of 35 goals he scored LOL. Lets see u pull up haaland scoring a free kick then LOL
That's its Lionel messi is just ♾️ no one can get close to my goat😂
Have been watching messi plays sins 2009
Im clearly talking about the world cup
@@timekeeper2654 free kicks are way harder not to mention strikers do not regularly do them mostly done by playmakers.
the second this guy said ronaldo fans and haaland fans thinks that its a robbery instead of saying some people think so ....i knew it was gonna be biased....but anyway this time messi deserved it.
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World Cup dominance carries more weight than anything out there. Sorry Messi haters Messi is the ultimate goat 🐐
I bet pessi fans can’t give a reason why Ronaldo didn’t deserve to win the 2013 ballon d’or 💀
Messi is the most over rated legend of all time now after winning Ballon d'Or for scoring 4 penalties in WC
Bruh without penalties Messi has more goals then Ronaldo
@@farisredhae Ronaldo is overrated too. To an extent they are great players but gifting them with awards for little or no contribution has made both of them overrated. It is underlying fact that in last 15 years there were players who performed far better than messi and ronaldo like Ribery , Robben, Sneijder but they were robbed coz of messi ronaldo hype.
@@farisredhae
Without friendlies ronaldo had more
Why Messi won his 8th Balloon D’Or by Ade Divine
The justification for Messi's Ballon d'Or win is not simply that he won the World Cup. The justification for Messi's 2023 Ballon d'Or win is about how he won the World Cup. It's about the manner in which he won it. Winning it and how you go about it are two different things.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
Now let's cross-examine MESSI and HAALAND. In the period considered for the award (1st August to 31st July), HAALAND scored 53 goals and provided 9 assists, winning a historic treble (League, FA Cup and Champions League). However, it doesn't suffice to say 'bah he won a treble!'. One of the criteria for the award of the Ballon d'Or reads "Individual performance, crucial actions". Yes, HAALAND finished top scorer in the EPL and won it, but that can be cancelled out by Messi finishing top assist provider in Ligue 1 and winning it as well. Yes, HAALAND won the FA Cup but how crucial was he in the biggest moment, the final? He had little or no impact as Gundogan won it for City. Now onto the huge prize he won , the UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE; he emerged top scorer with 11 goals but again we ask 'how crucial was he in the biggest stages?' that made the headlines. He failed to score in the semis and in the finals. Those are the games that should have won it for him. Ghosting in the group stage and scoring in the semis against mighty Real and in the finals would have helped his chances more. Big games win you the Ballon d'Or.
MESSI'S DIFFERENCE
That's where Messi, who got himself an underrated 38 goals and 25 assists in the period, comes in with the "how he did it" regarding his World Cup win. While HAALAND missed the tournament and was quite unfortunate that it was scheduled in the 2022-23 calendar (2023 Ballon d'Or period), Messi delivered a performance that can only be compared to what the likes of Pele and Maradona did in the tournament. He emerged best player in the tournament , and 2nd top scorer (7 goals); he became the only player in history to record an assist in 5 World Cups, equalling Pele's record of 6 assists in the knockout phase; he became the only player in history to score a World Cup goal in his teens, twenties and thirties; he became the player with most man of the match awards (11), among others, and he scored twice in the final.
There is no way, the Ballon d'Or won't jump at a chance to honour a man that has shaken the very foundations of history in the greatest international tournament. It comes down to the "how" each player won their biggest prizes. If Messi won the World Cup without such outstanding stats, we wouldn't have been holding this discussion. HAALAND would have been clear. If France had beaten Argentina, we would have been holding a Mbappe-Haaland debate instead.
Congratulations to Lionel Messi! Well deserved!
at begging i thought that baloondor was fair but after 2015 my mind changed. baloondor is a clear robbery
1 reason why ney deserved it please... I'm not a Messi fan but yeah
Without watching the video: bro's channel name is very unbiased i would say
Objectively he didnt deserve it for last season , but in general hes been one of best players in past 15 years so no one can get mad honestly . Also you cant compare ligue1 with Premier league . Julian Alvarez and Enzo Fernandez along others were pure class in world cup .
But B4 the WC no body had that opinion. C'mon you must be blind and really unfair to say that. For the first time I hear people say a Player who won the WC as the best player in that tournament doesn't deserve to win the BDO since 1995. It had never happened.
They both deserved to win but the votes decided the winner. If you start to compare leagues, then Why do you underrate the WC!? Is that really simple to win it just because Messi won it last year!? Hypocrisy of the highest level. Where was Halaand when Messi was winning the WC!!?
Do you really think that if Halaand was the winner, all people would have accepted that he deserves it without having people who said Messi was robbed!? Definitely no. !
Ligue 1 and French super cup are not big like the UCL or the EPL but the WC is the biggest of all combined.
Do you know why players like Maradona, Ronaldo Nazario, and Pele are regarded as the Goats of the sport!? Because of the WC nothing else. They have never won UCL but their legendary performances in the WC put them there with the very best.
Messi deserve everything
If messi was better than halland ,then mbappe was better than messi .In league game he was beast winning psg player of the year ,league 1 top scorer overall best player in league 1 ,and when we look at wc mbappe was absolutely beast ,only thing is he was not able to touch wc trophy but that game play in final and overall games were really good .He was beast in wc too , winning top scorer award ,so overall season watching psg and wc performance mbappe comes first than messi ,messi was good only in wc ,but overall mbappe was better .
Kaka once said that winning in the World Cup doesn’t change anything. messi is a genius but right now the most complete and goat is Cristiano Ronaldo he single-handedly is on the most large players of all time I would not like to say much more or much less but we all should agree that Ronaldo is the goat Messi is the second best player in the world Neymar also potential but with his injuries he could not be on the pinnacle
The house of delusions is cheap to build but drafty to live in
Messi 2010: MESSI DESERVED IT
Messi played more games
Messi stats 60 goals 17 assist
64 app
UCL
Messi top scorer 12 goals 1 assist
League stats
Top scorer
36 apps 15 assists 42 goal
That one Iniesta goal doesn't change anything😂
In 2015
G/A Messi:58 goals 31 assist 89
G/A Suarez 25 Goals 24 assist 49
G/A Neymar: 39 Goals 11 assist 50
G/A explains this
2019 Messi deserved it carrying barca team very hard
And liver pool had the best defender at the time
UCL stats top scorer
Even though Messi got knocked out before final
5 assist 8 goals (most g/a)
58 apps 18 assists 50 goals
2021: Messi vs Lewangoalski
MESSI: 37 GOALS 14 assists dribbles
203 MOTMS 26 invidiual awards 5
Lewangoalski 50 goals 8 assist 43 dribbles 15 motms 4 individual awards
Messi thropies with team
Copa del ray Copa america
Individual
La Liga top scorer Copa America Top Scorer and Assister Copa America Pot records broken
Most NT GOALS in conmebol
Most goals for a single club
Lewangoalski thropies and achievements
Team
Bundesliga Club World Cup Individual awards
Bundesliga top scorer
European gold shoe
Cwc Golden ball records broken
Most goals in Bundesliga season
Messi gets this because of Copa America
2023
Messi g/a is 67 and haaland g/a 66 during Ballon d'or period
Messi: Won lareus award, FIFA best, MOTM, 9.0 rating in WC final
And Also won motm
Won motm every world Cup round most g/a in Europe
(In the d'or voting period)
Game achievements
Ligue 1,WC, French Super Cup, and other individual awards
Hayland got 0 g/a in every completion semi finals and final😂
"But he only penalty"
Messi has a dribbler play style so the only way to stop him is to foul
Messi is also Argentina's main player so he gets more penalties unlike Ronaldo (no disrespect) on the bench
Argentina also played the most matches cause they reached the finals
Anyways Ronaldo score 60 more penalties than Messi and Ronaldo is top penalty scorer
Y'all won 3 ucls because you got away with offside😂 2013 Ballon d'or was extended for the first time and Ronaldo won it after that
Ronaldo robbed Bayern of ucl 2016 and 2017
In 2016 euro there was a special rule for that year in which if ur country is third in group stage you still qualify
Ronaldo and modric robbed Messi 2 ballon d'ors 2016
Ronaldo 55 goals 16 assist
2016 Messi 59 goals and 31 assist
2018 modric g/a + Ronaldo g/a 76 where messi is 77 g/a😂😂😂😂😂
No use bro.....This haters get jealous of his success, but they know that he was undoubtedly the winner....Nice sentence - "Victim of his own sucess".....Messi is Infinity🐐
I think this is on of the best videos i've ever seen from you. Barca Legion= G.O.A.T
I swear this guy made a video on why Messi deserves it😂
6 minutes of barca legion being biased to messi............
Faxs
*”ErLiNg HoOlAnD”* 💀😂
Tbf if you guys think messi deserved this, then modric not only had a great season with madrid, but taking croatia to a WC final, something they didnt ever reach in their history, they only finished 3rd thanks to players like suker, and the fact that they beat out teams like argentina and england speaks volumes and while modric wasnt the only reason they reached to the final, take him out of both madrid and croatia, they'd underperform by a country mile, modric is never a stats beast, but the way he plays is where hes ahead of many many players, not to mention the longevity
World Cup was also rigged. How many penalties did he score in the World Cup?
Yes, Argentina's total of five penalties awarded this tournament has been the most of any World Cup edition since 1966 - ahead of Portugal (1966) and the Netherlands (1978). Just saying.
So long story short: Haaland is impressive but he isn’t clutch enough. He still have a lot of time though to win Ballon dor(s) if he could maintain this consistency and become more clutch.
Excellent analysis. No hate to Haaland, he will surely win his Ballon d'or in the future!
Nice new video Barca Leigon. Bro just spits out facts all the time
Thank you for making this video, i really hope this gets a lot of views so those stupido Håland fans can shut their mouth. Im Norwegian btw
I am a MEESI fan
Bro r9 won for world cup also so many legends won for world cup its messi thats why you guys crying also you can't comparing a st with rw
So this is how many d'ors messi and ronaldo should have:
Ronaldo: 5. He did rob ribbery in 2013 but then he got robbed in 2018 so it stays the same...
Messi: 4. Messi Clearly didn't deserve 2010, 2019, 2021 and this year.... but if i would count 2015 (neymar) he woild have 3 which is kinda harsh.... and tho even people think neymar deserved it i think messi was slightly better (as a ronaldo fan i respect messi)
As a dutch man i was very pissed after our match in the wc i started to turn againsr messi.
But after this video i kind of changed my mind.
Although is still think that some of the games where not fair(please dont start a world war in the comments) it is true that messi scored a lot but looking at were most of those goals came from pens were i think 13 out of 20 goals from messi the entire wc(adjust me if im wrong)
Which i think kind of makes sense.
All Messi fans want Ronaldo to win the Dubai d'Or. I don't know why Ronaldo fans get jealous when Messi wins the Ballon d'Or😢
A messi fan explained this why inesta not win in 2011 who won world cup, he told treble was team effort, truth but world cup also team effort
Ronaldo in 2013 did deserved it because the ballon d’or is based on stats Ronaldo scored 69 goals so he did deserved it but Messi in 2023 did deserved it because he won the World Cup
some times i think that 2 years after Ronaldo was born.god realised how arrogant he would be if he becomes the number 1 footballer in the world.so he created a humble player who would be better than him in all remifactions to keep him from actually reaching the full arrogance of being number one.and that is how Messi was born..
I agree with this video and the arguments are solid but to the people that say Messi deserved the ballondor just because he is the greatest of all time is pretty questionable, I mean of course he is but that does not mean he deserves it every year
People don’t think it’s rigged because ur wins it often💀 First of all the World Cup was obviously rigged💀 Messi literally recreated the hand of god 😂 Don’t forget it’s 2022 not back in the 20th century we have V.A.R
He didn't
He deserve it he is the goat
The last clip shows the importance of Messi in PSG
It’s almost like you forgot he got booed outta there 😂
Thought you were to be objective, and then you pull out a Messi argument. Damn. 4 weeks outshining a whole year? Good grief.
THIS MAN IS RIGGERY EVERYTHING
Messi fan alert 🚨!!!!!, bro haaland deserved it, doesn’t matter if he didn’t score in the final, his team made it to the final because he scored in earlier matches bro
Y’all legit talking abt Halaand and mbappe while forgetting the actual best player lanutfield fairy the 4th
Moral of the story Barca Legion is a Messi Fan
In every wcup year,its the player with the standout performance in the tournament that always wins the balondor so penaldogs should give us a break.Messi had a goal contribution of 66 goals I.e 38 goals n 25 assists fr both club n country so it was not just about the wcup.Haaland had 56 goals n 10 assists thats a contribution of 66 goals only 3 more than Messi's 63.So Haaland only ahead coz of goals n messi ahead on assists n literally every other stat.Plus he delivered when it mattered,Haaland ghosted when it mattered in the biggest games at the end of the season.That's the difference that's why Messi 100% justified to win his record 8th balondor.
i'm ronaldo fan but messy win world cup. and also vital role in the worldcup
1 thing: 6 penaltys, most ever on a world cup, all taken by Messi, so it's not that hard to score much goals, saying this as a Harry Maguire fan
its 4 goals from penalties and 3 open goals with 3 assists and i am not counting the chances messi created and the impact he has on the team. Also if scoring a penalty is so easy why don't everyone have 100 % penalty conversion rate.Do you know who has most penalty goals ,yeah its cristiano ronaldo
Do you know who has the most goals in 2023? Yeah its cristiano ronaldo.@@adilmuhammeds9588
Why World Cup. He won it in 2022. That's why he won the Balloond'or in 2022.
Yes he deserves. ❤
Messi fans dressing the entire world as ronaldo fans is crazy. Simple question, what could he have done better on the pitch to win it?!?! Messi if it wasn't for martinez wouldn't have won the final. Messi got destroyed by bayern, did absolutely nothing in that UCL game, haaland had good chances against madrid just that courtois was on fire.
He could've not missed 47 big chances
and haaland in world cup?
If it wasn't for KDB wouldn't Haaland don't record goal in pl.If it wasn't for Rodri Haaland wouldn't have won the final.He don't even score in semi final.It's why Messi fans use performance in big game as criteria.Your logic is so dumb.
@@mobstat9966Remind me how they got to the finals. You'll complain that others miss good chances because of their bad positioning but when Haaland has excellent positioning and makes good use of the chances created for him you call him a tap in merchant. Peak hypocrisy.
@@eusebio_9 What are you talking about ?I don't even talk of tap ins here.If someone talk penalty for Argentina,there i will talk of tap ins.Stay lucid.
💯 percent correct
The one thing I want to change about football is the World Cup happening every year