FIRST LOOK at new Avatar Netflix series | What do you think?
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- We just got our first look at the new Netflix Avatar series. What do you think?
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I'm not a fan at all of the trend of adapting animated classics to live action just *because*. It feels like people don't respect animation as a medium and reeks of the 'animation is for kids' nonsense. However, that alone isn't enough to dismiss it or say it's terrible for the sake of it. From time to time, it works. Admittedly, Netflix doesn't have a great track record with anime or the like, but it has also done a number of truly incredible adaptations. How do you feel about what we've seen of Aang, Katara, Sokka, and Zuko?? I am cautiously optimistic! Do you still feel it just doesn't need to be made? What are you excited for potentially?
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agreed
Here we go again let's put all the earthbenders on a prison made of rock
Negative
Always gonna prefer animation😊😊😊😊
It's kinda be hard to top the live action movie. Damn that was such a good adaptation
A note to everybody: Please let's not bully the kids if the show is bad. We don't want our fandom to be known for that kind of toxicity.
So you're telling me that giving death threats to children doesn't magically fix a show? That's mind blowing.
@Tim: This isn't funny. There are actually people insane enough out there to do just that.
@@07Flash11MRCand making a comment in a yt section ain't gonna change that. Sort of redundant
@@RadialSeeker113let's not say or do anything, so nothing changes.
Great logic
@@Pfizenmaier I think the point they are making is that the trolls and extreme people are often not likely to read or care about a youtube comment.
Overall I think the costumes look decent. Sokka's looks like he's preparing for battle when Zuko attacks the tribe. My only nitpick is that the costumes look too "new" and not used or lived in
And tiny details like that can make it feel so much more alive!
Just like on "Willow".
@TeruteruBozusama yeah given where Sokka and Katara live, it's easy to assume that they make their clothes to last and have gone through a lot of maintenance and dont look brand new
I mean they're promo pics, I don't think they're actual screenshots of scenes. Promo pics always have that clean cut heavily photoshopped feel.
I think it’s more supposed to be in the Northern Water Tribe at the end of the season.
If I had to guess why Sokka's costume feels off, I would guess that it feels like it belongs to the wrong part of his arc. At the beginning of the series, his clothing was much more casual, kind of the water tribe equivalent to a hoodie and sweatpants, whereas this costume feels like it belongs to serious tactical Day of Black Sun Sokka to me.
right? this Sokka outfit is like the one he wears when they're going to war. also, he looks a bit too serious here, not getting goofball vibes from him.
Also, it's very tight for a culture based in the arctic/antarctic
I'd expect a bit more insulation in there, like more furs etc
It needs to be baggier looking, more like kataras. Also the actor looks a little too mature for the role imho
It's armor. He's probably wearing that at the north pole.
@@savvayh.7539he looks a little to European looking for the role.
My biggest nitpick is that while Zuko's armor design is incredible, I wish it was more red instead of black. I'm withholding judgment on Sokka until I see if that is his normal costume or his armor when he is defending the village, and plus I want to see how the actor does. He doesn't look like Sokka, but it's ONE picture. Let's give him a chance.
It’s a step in the right direction compared to the casting of the movie that shall not be named 😅 if this actor wants to pull off a good Sokka, his facial expressions and physical acting needs to be A+++
The actor is a pro-trump arse that pretended to be native American so oof but still
The armoúr of the Fire Nation changed colour throughout the show as well. In the beginning, it was the dark-reddish that's seen in Zuko's shoulders and then as the show progressed the armour became a darker shade of black. My guess is that it contrasted better with the red as you see the colour scheme in the civilian clothing where Fire Nation people often wore red with a black tunic.
The red is also in the lining of the armour sections to break it up. I guess it was made that way to make it more calming to look at since it was black on black then on screen it would look horrible.
I get that bit I also think too much red would be too cartoonish. The idea is to be accurate while making it look realistic and good. They are going to have to tone some things back. E.g. the scar he has isn’t like the one in the series but it still looks good and is accurate regarding what’s important
The costume problem, for me, is that they look new and untouched. Where's the discolouration from frost damage, or frayed threads of Aang's robes?
They look too nice. Like store brought or something.
Keep in mind these are promo images, not frame grabs. I also think Sokka and Kataras wardrobe is from the Northern Watertribe, it looks too crisp and clean for it to be southern imo. Also I trust the costume designer because she's won an absolute ton of awards for her work in a variety of things.
Agreed. The fabrics also seem so modern, like something you’d pick up at a fabric store, not something made in a small village or community. Obviously this is a nitpick, and not every show or movie is gonna have the time or the budget for something like that, but still, it’s the little things
@@dresdenwarlock7978 While the designs look good in this first glimpse, costume awards aren't really an indicator. The lead designer for The Tudors won an awards for costumes, and her work is absolutely horrendous, both in aforementioned show and in Vikings.
Agreed. They have that Halloween costume look to them.
Ugh this show is going to be under such a microscope. Nit picking PROMO PICS
I think the issue I see with the costuming isn't colors being saturated or desaturated or badly designed in general, its more that they look like costumes instead of clothes. They look like really high quality cosplay. Maybe that prop-look will be less apparent when its not just high definition stills and there is color grading and what not.
Katara's doesn't look too much like a costume, but Aang's is pretty bad
Yeah...because what they wore in the animation also looked like costumes. There's no way to make real life articles of clothing like that, look like clothes. No matter what, it's gonna look like cosplay. Period. Either they don't wear things that look like what's in the show and it looks "wrong", or they do wear what was in the show and it looks "wrong".
How "lived in" or "worn" any of it looks is irrelevant. If they look as if they're used, then they just look like costumes from a thrift store. They will never look like everyday clothes...ever.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979the work around is to redesign the clothes as what would make sense for the culture to wear, taking inspiration from real cultures around the globe, tinkering about what materials and dyes they would have access to, and what kind of craft they’d be capable of. Then, based off that, the clothes design would likely not look much like a cosplay
@@DoremiFasolatido1979what have you ever been outside your country? Real people dress like this still
@@jenv.7995Most people LOVE bright and garish dyes throughout history if they could help it. People don't always wear popular history's perception of medieval and Renaissance-era fools
With the scar, I've been told by some burn scar ppls online that they really wish his scar had more texture and actually deformed his eyes like a real burn scar. You only see that kind of realism in scars with villains, so it would be nice to see it for a character that will be redeemed and become good without the scars being removed or changed.
The biggest concern I have from a design perspective is that the costumes and the hair/makeup will get the “Rings of Power” treatment and look flawless and manicured and cheap in every single scene. I know these are promo pics and they don’t represent what the characters will look like in action, but they’re not comforting lol. What you said about leaning into the unrealism did help me feel better about it though
Yeah. I feel you. Like tools weapons and clothes that are supposed to be used or worn. Or even years old look brand new and plastic in alot of movies I see. Its sad they can't think of such things. Especially in ROP
Yeah this can be an issue, it happened in the One Piece live action too, for all the great things it did in the art and costume departments that was my one pet peeve
I think it’s less about color and more about a realistic sense of wear and tear.
Like I remember watching behind the scenes for Prince of Persia, and the costume designer took a cheese grater to a beautiful robe to create a sense of wear.
It's a promo pick
@@hez859 A promo pic that could be greatly improved with the use of a cheese grater.
@@Colopty And some mud stains. Every travellers costume improves with cheese grating and mud staining.
Yea, in order for something to transfer successfully to a live action screen, it has to be more realistic. The clothes may lose color, but they should look functional. The show itself should also be more serious than the cartoon and have moments of humor and light heartedness rather than be an exact copy of the cartoon. It just has to be different tone wise while still keeping the essence of the show.
It's a long journey, and these look like pictures from the very start, likely/hopefully the cheese grater will attack as they go on the journey
I believe these costumes will look so much better post production. With all the proper lighting, editing, etc. It's clear these are just promotional photos and not actual stills from the scenes from the show.
Idk... how it will look but currently it looks like complete dogshit
So cheap and plasticy just horrible
cuz zuko's armor is plain EVA rubber they didnt even TRY
To me, Aang and Zuko stand out the most in a way that's a little odd, but I'm willing to chalk that up to the fact that the environment is very cold and blue and they are supposed to stand out from the Southern Water Tribe. I can easily imagine those same costumes fitting right in at the Fire Nation and Earth Kingdom.
But I love how, in Aang's one, the Igloos have the metal fortification. It's almost creating a sense of war and showing how these people have had to adapt due to circumstance
As you mentioned in the video, how they handle the bending is going to be the deciding factor for me. The costumes so far look pretty faithful to the show, and I agree about the vibrancy and saturation of the colours being pretty cool.
When I first saw the picture of Katara, I was honestly blown away by how much of Katara’s *essence* came through in the actress’s expression and pose. I felt that for the other pictures as well, but Katara’s really took my breath away. And I think that’s a really good sign. I feel like we at least won’t have the issue of “no one can tell what our actors are trying to convey, so we’ll just add really bad narration”
really? I cant see any of the characters in the casting. zulos is probably best, but even thats iffy for me.
@@patrickcox8990… zuko
Kiawentiio did an amazing job with a major role in Anne with an E, and I trust that she can carry Katara’s character.
Yes! That really stood out to me, I didn't even notice her clothes markings at first
I agree, the Katara picture is beautiful
With Zuko's scar, I'll have to see how it looks on the actor's whole face. I know it's impossible to make it look the same as it was in animation, but it does look not as extensive. In the original show, Zuko's eye itself was affected (it was forcibly squinted), his ear was shrunken; it looked like a raised scar tissue with contracture-it looks like, well, the result of a burn.
The lighting is the other thing that looks strange-it's very flat, but in the opposite way to the abomination. It looks almost too bright. It looks too unreal. I think this is a lot due to the fact that they are stills rather than dynamic shots.
Right, from what little of it I can see, it looks more like the the result of a domestic abuse punch in the eye.
Yeah hoping it's just because these are publicity shots it looks so bright. THink that's part of whey the costuming seems too "new" as other people have mentioned. Hopefully that'll be fixed in the actual action shots
Real life burns are very unpleasant to look at, they're probably trying to keep it appealing while retaining some of the original's essence, I imagine.
@@tanostrelok2323 but like, that's kind of the point of the scar tho? In my opinion, the more fucked up it looks the more it serves the narrative purpose of Zuko having a scar- a visible and un-coverable reminder that his father was willing to mutilate his own child for pride. Making it anything other than uncomfortable to look at takes away from what the scar represents
If the image is from the first few episodes the lighting is excusable. Hard to not make something sterile when your surroudings is completely white.
It's hard to tell with his helmet on, but Zuko's scar looks a little small. In the animated series it goes down his cheek to as low as about his nose. It also goes back to cover his ear which is a plot point because Zuko sleeps on his side with his good ear facing up so he can sense danger nearby. His scar is his biggest source of shame and it should be a noticeable reminder. If its not big enough it could be comparable to how it wasn't visible in the live action movie
Yeah that got me to. I mean it's literally his father's hand that scorched in in (at least that's what I always thought) it's definately hand sized
I really hope they don't forget the fact that Zuko doesn't have an eyebrow on that side because it was forgotten in the movie and hid the scar even more. Hair doesn't grow on scars and u can't tell me that the fire didn't burn away his eyebrow
My problem with the scar is that it looks like a bruise.
@Kazini_ yeah i hope it looks like actual burn scars on the final product
The music/score is going to be extremely important as well. The series score is iconic and beautiful, and one of the few things done right in the movie was the score. James Newton Howard rarely disappoints. I'll be interested to see what they come up with. I'd love to see elements of the original written in with the new.
I think the major issue with the costumes is that they look too clean which plays into the feeling that they seem kinda unnatural/unrealistic which some people complain about. Clothes are ultimately objects that are used every day, therefore, it seems weird that they wouldn't have scratches, dirty spots, etc. but look like they've just been fabricated.
Complaining already
@@dejuanhickman3175 criticising something isn't the same as complaining about it.
they are very bright and clean... i was thinking the same thing. here's hoping it looks that way because these shots were clearly done for promotional reasons and not, say, snapped on set.
@@cuptaincoffee2121 most fans are gonna hate it and that's cool. I hope Netflix knocks this out the park and the show does great. More fans more lore and we can finally move on from the cartoon we all love
Not everything needs to be gritty and dirty if it is used every day. Laundry exists…particularly if you are in a place where you live and likely have other clothing. Not a ton though so you would do your best to maintain what clothing you have.
Let’s assume that these are the characters at the beginning? Zuko Is a prince on a ship. Someone is doing his laundry and he isn’t doing that much work. Kitara and Soka are in their home village where they would be doing chores like laundry and living a life amongst show, which doesn’t really make things dirty. Aang might be the only one that should be missed because he escaped in a storm and was trapped in a glacier…but it his clothes are utilitarian and made to be laundered with easy it shouldn’t be a big deal.
No one is wearing weirdly impractical fabrics that wouldn’t stand up to daily use. None of these characters have a specific trait that required them to be unkempt…even in undeveloped nations…people keep themselves relatively clean in their day to day lives.
My biggest concern with the series is the risk it might go to "serious." In all of these images, no one is smiling or looking light heared at all, but A:tLAB was full of levity; Aang wouldn't be Aang if he wasn't playing around with penguins or teaching kids to dance, or Sokka wouldn't be Sokka without his puns or silly inventions. I hope they capture that lighter side of the characters.
I hope they do both. The lighter moments should stay but I hope they also dive into the moments that would have been too intense for Nickelodeon. Seeing Sokka make a joke but also diving into the emotional stakes of being the only man left to defend his village is equally important to his character.
I just rewatched ATLA and I actual forgot how lighthearted it is, even in book 3, which is probably the most serious one. What I’m actually a bit afraid of is that a lot of the humor and lighthearted moments in ATLA were physically based, with the characters standing weirdly, Momo moving really quickly, the funny faces etc. so it may be hard to capture that in live action.
They've said that the tone for season 1 will be more inline with season 2 and 3 of the animation. I think there will still be that mix of serious and light-heartedness, it just won't be as "kid goofy" as the season 1 of the animation. I'm sure they've learnt from the mistakes of M.Night Shamadingdong's movie.
Also, these photos seem to be from when Zuko attacks the Southern Water Tribe so it's a serious situation.
@@DutchSimmer1 They'll definitely have to change the lighthearted jokes that were in ATLA because the live action medium doesn't suit the types of physical jokes that were used pretty frequently in the original. They were definitely jokes you can only have in cartoons.
see i wouldn't mind a little more of a serious tone... it would be more like the franchise matures a bit with it's original audience. Ofc, don't make it insanely serious, but a little less childish would be nice to see and help separate it from the original in a tasteful way
I think sokka’s picture is from when they’re at the northern water tribe. It wouldn’t make much sense for a small tribe that is probably low on resources to have uniforms that have a bunch of metal and details. Also it looks new so I think it might be during the siege of the northern water tribe arc
This isn’t animation to live action, but I REALLY like what Wheel of Time did with the color blocking-these vivid hues, but still with textural and shape details that look like a lived in culture and tailored to each individual’s personality (or their plot points).
The Tinkers really looked amazing in WOT. Not as bright as described in the books, but more natural colors.
I think Sokka's outfit is supposed to be his armor for the seige on the North. The giant Water Tribe symbol feels grandiose, very Northern Water Tribe
That's what I thougth too
I hope that's the case, 'cause the armour doesn't really suit the Southern Water Tribe, in my opinion.
The symbol on the wall behind Sokka is the southern water tribe symbol. The northern water tribe uses a different symbol with a crescent moon on it.
@@arcanedoughnut2016 True about the Northern Tribe symbol being the moon and ocean. The symbol behind Sokka is the waterbending symbol, though. Is it canon that that is also the political symbol for the Southern Tribe?
That armor looks close to the armor Sokka is shown in when he is 14 and his dad's ships leave him on the dock as they leave the tribe. Though he is missing the face paint. But my point is, Sokka technically had that armor when he was in the south.
You're awesome for pointing out at 12:40 that many of the animated show's best moments happened thanks to Aaron and Elizabeth, rather than Michael and Bryan. They don't get enough credit for how valuable their contributions were to the legacy of Avatar.
Yes I'm so glad they got a shout-out! They wrote some of my favorite episodes. When people talk about Bryan and Mike leaving, I always bring them up as a way of demonstrating that Bryke isn't the be all end all of Avatar. What they created was groundbreaking, of course, but there are so many other talents that made the show what it was.
They made great contributions but I suspect the real mojo of ATLA was the whole team. Because I couldn't even endure a few episodes of Dragon Prince to be honest. It's ass.
@@Afreshio agree, the magic was probably in them jumping on Bryke's creation and everybody being in the right place right time. It's like how sometimes musicians can elevate songs but then they write a solo album and it's just not as good lol
Aaron is the person responsible for the fantastic writing of the original show. He is on record saying he had to talk the creators out of dumb shit regularly. They had a great idea for the world/characters and overall story but they are shit at writing. This is what happened with korra and why it feels so disjointed and all over the place. People like to put 100% of the blame for that on nickelodeon but the creators taking more control over the writing also played a huge factor. There was no Aaron around to talk them out of dumb shit.
@@Maibuwolf 100%. Bryke was great for their original concept, character visual design (cus they were animators first), a lot of the world building, and many visual rule of cool moments. But character-driven writers, they were not.
I think the main reason why Aang's outfit might appear off to some people is that its colors clash with the colors of the background pretty harshly.
Nah. Just lighting
One of my worries is how they will balance comedy and seriousness. Are they going to completely take Sokka's sarcasm and silliness out? How will they translate those characteristics of Sokka and the rest of the dynamics in the gang on screen? Because it is live-action, I expect it to be darker in tone than the animated series. You don't want it to be too bland in the comedy, but you also want it realistic in how humans interact. Also, I know that eye color doesn't matter if they are trying to be culturally accurate, but I miss Katara's crazy blue eyes.
The actor for sokka seems like end-of-series leader Sokka, not goofball sokka that gets high off cactus juice. I can see him possibly doing a version of the comic relief in a teenage, high school style manner as opposed to the more elementary school style of the OG series. Not impossible, but a bit of a stretch and will not land the same. Might not be worse, but it won't be the same.
Might be work if he tries to present as that but has him the same arc basically?! Which could be a funy contrast and him becoming , a disconnect might be an arc tomature into more confident funny sokka?!
Ideally its akward going for a growth, in line with sokka.
I basically just commented the same! I think his outfit also feels more end-series than beginning
@Jermare thats true enough, but his snow lookout tower looked pretty derpy, even then and "no potty breaks" Sokka isn't actually supposed to scare the children. This guy would make that one kid cry😭
That was exactly how I felt about both the actor and the costume
from what I've heard and seen Paul Sun-Hyung Lee (Iroh) say, Sokka has some fantastic humor in the series. Paul knows funny. I trust him whole heartedly.
I honestly really liked the way Aang's arrow was really detailed on the other live action
Funnily enough, that was one of the only suggestions from the original creators that made it into the final film
To be fair, these are more or less set photos. Obviously curated very carefully, but not in motion, not with VFX, and probably from very early. We’ll see
Agree with you on that part.
@@mitsukitai2713 WAIT THAT WASNT EVEN SHAYMALAN'S IDEA?
That was one of the only aspects of the film that Tim liked
The One Piece trailer looks phenomenal. Far better than really any of the fans were expecting. It looks like it is staying very true to the original story while finding its own groove. Plus Oda was involved at a fairly high level.
So far, im most excited to see Katara's actress portray her. She has that Katara feel already from that image, and I have high hopes for how she'll do throughout the show.
From these single images we've seen, Aang concerns me. Purely because of his facial expression, but I'm wondering if this one shot of him is where he's having that showdown with Zuko in the southern water tribe so there is still a lot of hope there to see how he'll show that more jokey side of Aang
I think the issue with Sokka's actor is that he looks like a tough and scary guy I wouldn't want to mess with, and not like the goofy, sarcastic Sokka we know. I hope he does a good job because that character is actually very hard to play.
It could be the battle attire he'll wear to fight Zuko in the first few episodes. I doubt that'll be his reoccurring, casual clothes he'll wear throughout the series
Sokka had his moments of becoming the serious guy who had to pull up his big boy pants when father went away for war, though. It's perfectly in character as long as that's not him throughout the whole series.
@@spikem5950 @syrusangi8743, more than the clothes I meant the actor himself. It is hard for me to picture him saying Sokka's funny lines and then feeling proud of him when he has those great moments as a leader because he already looks like a tough dude, But I could be wrong, hope he nails it.
@@syrusangi8743 I think so, too. It may be the war attire he wore during the clash against Zuko's army in the very first episodes.
In my opinion, he kinda looks like he's in the middle of hyping himself up for a fight in the photo lol
Or at least has the expression of "Oh crap- I'm actually about to fight these guys-"
Sokka is the village warrior so I think it’s nice that he has something that makes him stand out and does speak to his character of wanting to be like his father and strong.
I think the issue with Aang's suit and tattoos looking sorta weird for us has more to do with how used we are with it, to the point where whenever something looks this faithful to the original design it immediately hits as odd, like a 2D picture forced outside of the screen. It makes us think of a cosplay, an attempt to pick a beloved design and replicate it exactly. Were it not for the fact we grew up with those designs and weren't we so familiar with them, I believe it wouldn't really strike us as weird whatsoever.
My only gripe is that Zuko’s scar looks like a simple birthmark. Give me the rugged layers of damaged flesh, eye and ear included. But other than that no complaints and I’ll wait to watch the actual show before making any judgments. Things look great so far!!
To be fair, if he squinted that eye it would pretty much be closed.
Saying this as someone who has almond eyes
Tbf it’s not like we’re getting a good look at it given the helmet is in the way. The little we see makes me think it probably will be what it needs, but we’ll see it in full eventually.
I think they should’ve casted someone paler not hate towards the actor but it’s easier to then see the color contrast between skintone and the scar itself
So a couple of my friends that live in Vancouver got to work on this, one in costuming and one as a COVID compliance officer, and from what they've told me and the handful of bts photos that they were willing to show me I'm extremely optimistic. I can tell you for one that Iroh looks amazing in costume and Paul is apparently an absolute gem to work with. In fact, my friends couldn't praise the cast enough and the main four that they're finally letting us see are supposedly all incredible people, think what you will about Ian apparently misrepresenting himself as Native American to get the part of Sokka. The single most important anecdote that gives me confidence in this series - and I cannot stress enough that this is an unsubstantiated anecdote from an insider and not something that I can prove - is that some of the reshoots that were reported on a while back were done because the cast chemistry developed so amazingly that they were willing to spend what I can only assume was millions of dollars to re-shoot the earliest episodes and make sure that they captured that energy throughout.
Well, that's good to hear at least.
Wait thats so cool!! Would you mind telling me some more details? Only if you want because I’m very interested in it
The cast chemistry was pretty apparent at TUDUM. Gordon Cormier also had some Aang-levels of enthusiasm and energy throughout the presentation lol.
it is indeed optimistic, but a good cast and costume does not mean the series will be well written unfortunatly
You mentioned the One Piece trailer, and personally it seemed pretty good to me. One piece turned into live action straight up would look insane, so I think they did a good job of holding on to the weirdness and insanity, whilst also grounding it in reality. A lot of the characters are also such extreme caricatures in the manga that at least in the trailer they seem to be striking the right balance of keeping them in essence, but not letting them stray into the ridiculous.
Sokka is a character that will be very hard to bring to life action, he can only exist in the cartoon world. He has to be comic relief and also very competent, strategic and a great leader at the same time.
Not at the same time. We saw those sides to him gradually. Some came out stronger than others depending on what the context of the episode was so it's not literally at the same time.
I always felt that it would be awesome if a live adaptation of Avatar really leaned into the cultures the shows cultures were inspired by. The things you CAN'T do in animation due to time and animation resteaints, you can dive into with costume and backdrop. You can add intricate details that animation just can't capture.
And to add: I would love it if they leaned into the architecture too. What was a common inuit tribe's home? What was it made out of? How did they make their clothes? I don't know, but in a live action remake they can really lean into those inspirations to make a world that is vibrant, diverse, and beautiful!
I agree! I think this is what I've always looked for and couldn't articulate it
Aang's live action clothes look exactly like tibetan monk garments imo, they have vibrant sturdy fabric
They should really do a ehind the scnes and inspirations of avatar. Extra.
@braydoxastora5584 animators don't have the time or the money to draw detailed set pieces and clothing designs that you have to draw over and over again. You simply can't get the same amount of detail in animation that you can in live action.
I love animation and I believe that it doesn't get the recognition it deserves. But if you are going to adapt something into live action, it's my belief that you should lean into the tools you are using. Not try and force the new into looking like the old.
@@braydoxastora5584 Its not really a question of capacity, any good animator will probably be able to replicate a very details cloathing set... for a still frame. Remember, each second of animation will be 24+ frames. Its basically impossible to hand-draw these and even if they went with a pre-rendered model most details would be lost in motion or look completely muddy with motion blur. Thats why most animation studio's will generally have one or two scenes where the character is in the center of the shot and you can see all the details and then oversimplify their design for everything else.
I wonder if Sokka's outfit is actually from when he's helping defend the Northern Water Tribe? It looks more advanced.
Yeah, it definitely looks Northern Water Tribe to me.
Yeah, seems like what he’ll be wearing after his epic armor suit-up montage.
Most of the costumes will have to grow on me, I did like a good portion of the aesthetic of the film who should not be named, like Aangs tattoo and some of the water tribe clothing. Zuko’s armor outfit is by far my favorite because it’s stylized to be heavily inspired and not a duplication replica. That or the over saturation looks a bit uncanny
Zuko looks absolutely perfect. Exactly as I’d imagine him. I am very much over live action adaptations full stop so I really don’t hold much for this series but I will say the casting does seem to match SO FAR. Even Sokka looks pretty good. I’m just really hoping the bending will focus more on the amazing martial arts then trying to make very obviously cheap cgi look better. I am doubting a lot that it’ll live up to much though, lots of elements just don’t bode well for it and knowing all the adaptations I’ve seen so far being dry cooking cutter copies with nothing much to add
I like the costumes and vibrancy of the colors and all that. The only gripe I have is that they look like costumes and not like something you would wear in your daily life, for Katara and Aang’s costumes specifically.
They have done an exceptional job in costuming/daily clothes before in other films and tv shows. Also, remember that to us we call it costume, back then it was just 'daily clothing' to the natives of the Avatar Universe. We see it through the modern eye, that's why you are describing it that way. I think we should give them a chance and allow the actors to give us a great performance. 😎
I’m assuming most of the budget went into fight-coordination and any extra martial arts training for the actors-then it was ALL special effects. Designing and then actually making a bunch of clothes for four fictional cultures in better and more specialized materials would have been pricey if it was spread out amongst even the background actors, so I’m mostly just appreciating the casting choices in the live action translation of their designs (and while they could have just used clothes from the cultures the fictional nations were already BASED ON like the show did, I assume they just really wanted to accentuate the nation differences by adding in more bending and spiritual elements to the designs that would have been hard to animate before, all while still leaning into the original show’s colors). I can see all the added costume details actually looking very nice on paper (like Katara’s new patterns for instance) but the materials they’re working with and the fact that they didn’t want to lose too much of the main characters’ colors definitely didn’t ease the switch ups of media.
All that to say, I 100% agree with you: I’m getting theatre-costume-isle vibes. I think they did the best they could and am just hoping that the costumes get a bit less “pristine” looking as time goes on, otherwise I think I might get distracted by their material a lot lol 😅
how do you get blue color in south pole
The fact that this all seems so promising actually makes my concerns as to why the writers left due to creative differences greater
Look at why they left m night shamalans. Bryke had an interview and said they never wanted it to happen, unless they did it. They don’t even like that their names were involved. It’s incredibly interesting. Ever since I heard that, I got so concerned for the Netflix live action, because they’ve been quite tight lipped as to why they left, understandably.
Bryke WERE the ones who thought M night would be able to pull it off, even after seeing his past films. The rest of the team wanted an additional season for the animated show, Bryke did not.
The writers made Korra. I have no faith in them without Aaron.
@xaviercopeland2789 yessss thank you! Brike destroyed their legacy with Kora
The creators of avatar are dogshit writers too. Aaron hernadez is responsible for the fantastic writing in the original show not the creators. the creators doing more of the writing in korra is why the legend of korra was such a rollercoaster of writing. The creators also became woke sjw's well over a decade ago.
At 8:45 I want to point out that the tusks form the symbol of the water tribe. The same symbol is on Katara's necklace. I think Soka wears that outfit in the show after they've arrived at the Northern Water Tribe, and not his usual sleeveless attire.
When I saw the screenshots at fist I was thinking "this is significantly better." And the more I look at them the more hopeful I am that they're doing a good job with what their trying.
If there is one good thing from the movie that shall not be named for me it was Aangs tattoos , I really liked how they looked , they made them made it more realistic while keeping it close to the animation.
Agreed. They should have kept that in the LA instead of the animated version. There’s just some things that look good in 2D but bad in real life.
Completely agree with that. I was hoping they'd use those tattoos instead.
But maybe they'll look a bit different if they apply a darker filter to the show, cos I think the blue tattoo only looks good in animation
Repent sinner, 100 self flogging upon thine back for 2 weeks
I like how the costumes are vibrant but insert enough neutrals or muted patches to let the colours pop more.
I like the use of leather in Zuko's armour, considering the importance of mobility and the usefulness of leather in fire protection.
Waiting for final judgment until the series comes out but for clean promotional imagines these look AMAZING! The ppl behind the Netflix adaption are fans of the OG animated series and these kids look sooo good
My biggest issue with Sokka's costume is that it looks like some weird combo of chain and brigantine. As far as I know, in the anime it was just clothing, not armor. There's no reason for that to change, especially if that scene is from the beginning before they start traveling.
I kinda think it fits for his character motivation because he thinks of himself as the village's protector since the adult me are gone to war. I'm mainly thinking of how Sokka was so hard lined about training the kids, treating Aang with a lot of suspicion, building and maintaining watch towers. He was, emotionally really hit when his dad left without him. So, I think it could work, but they'd have to justify it to the audience.
its probably an armor from northern water tribe
My biggest issue with Sokka is he's being played by a guy who lied about being indigenous!
@@Internet-AliasOh no, did he really? :x
@@Internet-Aliasfr? I did a double take because he looked funny, but lying is wild
Netflix bringing us Avatar and One Piece and as a fan of both, I think being cautiously optimistic about it is the best way to feel about things for now
I'm not too hopeful for One Piece. Even if they only adapted 1/10 of the show, that's still a little over one hundred episodes. Unless they plan on cutting out the vast majority of the show, they're gonna be releasing episodes for YEARS. Which might break some records for a live action television show.
@@NewVegasVigilante67 Well, the first season is going to adapt the East Blue Saga, which is the first 100 chapters! They have about 8 hrs to do 100 chapters. If the anime adapted 3 chapters per episode, then we will have ~34 episodes i.e. 680 minutes. With 8 hrs we have 480 minutes. I think they can do it, if they shorten a lot of fights and dialogue. Still, I'm cautiously optimistic. I just want to see them do justice to Arlong Park and Zoro vs. Mihawk! If they can nail that then I'll support the show 100%
One piece is fucking ass
@@NewVegasVigilante67the show will be cancelled in its first season
what are your thoughts about cowboy bebop?
I'm still sceptical but I like it when Tim said that the people involved talk passionately about the project. If they can manage that fantasy feel of the world but in a grounded, practical way there is hope. Got a little Ghost of Tsushima vibe of the teaser: Grounded and with respect for the cultures depicted. So that's positive.
For Bending I hope they understand that it is the practice of moving the energy in an element. That's at least how it looks. It will be hard but if they can nail that I think the show is moving in the right direction. ATLA is such a complicated combination of elements which made people fell in love with it when it first aired.
with Zuko's scar in the live-action, maybe some thin silicone strips to give it that sort of wrinkled/stretched effect it had in the original? Color-wise it looks great, it's just the texture effect they had on the animation that's missing. Also, the whole tusk-door thing is probably the main gate in their village wall, iirc the southern water tribe village's snow wall had a big door with the water tribe symbol on it in front.
I'm cautiously optimistic because I actually really like these costumes and casting. I especially like how Aang and Katara's costumes really lean into the cartoony, fun vibe while Zuko's is more muted and serious. My only gripe would be that I wish they were a bit more "worn" and weathered because they look a bit too new here... I'm also hoping that this is only Sokka's costume for the finale episodes for the siege of the Northern Water Tribe.
I’m mixed about everyone’s eye colors. On one hand I understand it’s realistic for everyone to have natural brown eyes but I really liked that Aang had silver/gray, katara and sokka have blue, Zuko has amber/hazel, and toph has green. I think it helped with the overall vibe of the characters but I understand not doing it.
The different eye colours also made it look less like the real world. But then again I often feel like coloured contact lenses look really weird/fake if the actor has dark brown eyes...
yeah, especially since it‘s canon that benders very frequently look ‚like‘ the element they bend (everyone who sees zuko knows that he‘s fire nation, aang convincingly looks like no other character, and it‘s mentioned in Kyoshi that the waterbenders have to change their eye color with medicine if they go undercover)
@@silmaril8989 Colores contact lenses will almost always look weird, sadly. Our irises are concave, and so they catch light in a very particular way and the pupil contracts/expands with light. However, contact lenses sit on top of the eye, they're a flat surface and they obscure the pupil's changes. That's why characters wearing them tend to look uncanny and they look bad on 3/4 and profile perspectives.
I can also imagine how uncomfortable it must be for the actors to wear them for hours! 😢
It's a pity, but I'm glad they decided against using them.
Toph! We're gonna get to see Toph! Hopefully?
It would be cool, imo, if their eyes changed to the colors we’re used to whenever they bend. Otherwise, I’m personally okay with their natural eye colors.
I really love the wall in the background of Sokka's picture that seems to be made of tusks and whale bones. That's a great bit of worldbuilding that makes a lot of sense for the Water Tribe, and I hope that shows that they are going to be looking more closely at Inuit culture for the Water Tribe in the live action. As it is, between the various cultures that the nations of ATLA take inspiration from, Inuit culture really got the short end of the stick, despite the importance of the Water Tribe to the story.
Skeptical but excited. Like, smaller budget hopefully means there's fewer hands on the project from people who are more interested in ROI than ATLA. There will always be some of that, but Im willing to hope.
I had originally written the whole thing off after hearing the creators left. However, I haven't really examined that before. You're right that it takes a village to animate, and that their leaving the show doesn't mean disavowing it.
I've seen stories on Twitter of like wanting to age up the cast and even something about sex scenes. Which... Ick. But I've seen similar inane shit from execs on any project where the cast talk. Like it said, exec meddling is an immediately, and it costs nothing to allow myself to like it, if that makes sense.
Don't usually comment, but I should probably do the whole engagement thing more.
It will always be animation for me. It judt captured the Essence SO well
The only adaptation that will ever do the film justice was the live action film. It captured the characters and world perfectly. It's a shame it never got a sequel. The casting was really dang good too
Same!! Not everything that’s animated translates well into live action. There’s a reason certain mediums are chosen NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE LIVE ACTION
It won't top the avatar animation that's for sure but I also think you guys should realize not everything has to be exactly like the animation that's not possible imo but as long as it follows the story while being its own version am cool with it
Something interesting that's just occured to me is that in theory dirty clothing could be cleaned pretty easily and often using both water or air and earthbending; water would soak and wash material, air could blast debris off/out of material, and earth could be used to pull dirt and maybe dust out of material. In this case, I think it wouldn't be too surprising to see decently clean clothing, as many people are commenting about them looking too clean. I get where that's coming from, but I wouldn't be surprised if often in practice we don't get that effect or there may be reasoning as to why that can be the case.
In fact, as you point out these shots may well be quite early on in the season, in which case it may be reasonable the clothing doesn't look "worn in" yet so to speak. If Katara and Sokka haven't been fighting anyone, Aang hasn't been fighting anyone, and Zuko's been on a ship training but not seeing real action for some time, maybe that makes sense.
The earth bending and water bending being used to clean were quite useful in that Painted Lady episode with the industry-polluted waterways in that floating village
Well remember that the southern water tribe isn't really allowed to use bending.
When people say 'too clean', it's more about the fact it LOOKS like a prop, and kind of cheap. Clean in the way hard plastics and acrylics look clean. Like the types of materials and some of the styling (the end of aang's cape being tied to his arms for some reason for instance. Like you really couldn't just sew a spot together if you wanted it to not fly up?) aren't something a regular person would wear in their daily life
Them looking too clean is more about the lack of weathering than about lack of dirt. It's fine if they look like the outfit has been recently washed, real people do wash their clothes regularly after all, but they should look like clothes that have been worn for some time rather than something they just picked up at the local supermarket. That means some threads out of place here and there, maybe make the furry parts of the water tribe outfits not quite as perfectly fluffed up, maybe the dye has been sun bleached a little. It doesn't need to look battle worn, just worn. Also aim for making them out of materials the characters have available, no matter how convenient polyester is.
@@Colopty Basically, the goal is not to look dirty or as if the clothes are super old. But that they halve indeed been used and washed for sometime and you can tell they aren't brand new.
For example, there really wouldn't be much "dirt" in the water tribes. But there would still be frayed edges, slight discoloration (not desaturation there is a difference), wrinkles, and stretching.
I can't wait and i know you love ur Avatar... anyway i bought both of your writing how to books :) i finished em. Thanks and enjoy the series mate ❤
There's a quick interview i saw on reddit i think, asking the actors of zuko and aang some quick light-hearted questions, and getting a glimpse of the actors i think the directors hit the nail on the spot and i would protect these kids with my life.
zukos scar looks like a bruise lol
Honestly, nowadays teaser trailers have just become 2 minute trailers and regular trailers are essentially plot synopses. I respect that this was actually a teaser trailer.
All i know is that the cinematography is in good hands. The cinematographer for this show is Michael goi. he was also the cinematographer for american horror story seasons 1-5 and if you watched any of those seasons you know how good he is
Looks so much better than the never to be named film! I think Sokkas costume that was shown during when they are in the northern water tribe. The background his costume would fit that point of the arc.
I think bending is a lot harder to nail in terms of performance than it is to animate the effects, especially for an experienced team of vfx artists. There's going to be a lot of vfx to worry about beyond just the bending, so that's kind of concerning in terms of budget and time constraints, but their budget per episode is pretty high, so there's hope. The Toph concept short fight scene that their stunt team posted looked really good as far as performance goes, I just hope that's the level of action design that made it to set, and I hope they gave the cast enough time to properly train for it.
There's nothing unrealistic about vibrant colors in clothes. Most of history had vibrant colors. Only in bad historic movies is everyone from ancient times wearing brown and grey rags.
I'm hopeful it's gonna be ok. Cautiously optimistic if you will. Way more excited about the animated stuff coming up!
I'm both incredibly exited and insanely nervous for how the shows gonna be I really want it to go well but after the movie that will not be named I'm just a little{lot} traumatized
One thing I’m a little worried about is the relationship between Katara and Aang. Katara’s actress is already 17 while Aang’s is 13. Assuming each book has one year between filming, that would mean that Aang’s and Katara’s first kiss will be shot when they’re 14/15 and 17/18/19. I know Katara was always two years older, but I fear it’s going to look really creepy ones the final book is being filmed and we see a 20 year old woman kiss a 16 year old teenager. I just hope they can keep Katara’s actress looking like a teen and everything behind the scenes will stay safe for Gordon Cormier.
I mean, 20 year olds don't actually look much older than teens. But I think it'll help to see them next to each other or something and then we can tell if it looks weird or not
Though the entire premises of the show timeline in all 3 seasons is one year or less. I wonder how will they do that if Gordon has a growth spurt.
@@wolfstormwizard424I wonder if they will do it like that film which shall not be named. Extend the timeline to account for the fact that the actors will age, which would also make the mastering of all the elements more realistic.
I hope they have a good and caring intimacy consultant on set. There should be no problem and they should be safe if they have one ❤
Imho it felt weird and gross in the cartoon too.
I never trust stills lol I can't judge how good something looks until I see the actors in action
i've been subbed to this channel for years and I guess it finally happened. He's here. The 'Future Him'. wild stuff.
My biggest nitpick with the costumes, specifically katara and sokka, is that they don't look.. natural. I understand that they're part of a fantasy world + i love the details like kataras loopies being braided and the patterns on her parka look like inuit embroidery, but they don't look embroidered, just stuck on. And as for sokka, his outfit confuses me a bit, namely the metal. Those parts should be made of bone and ivory, but the only part of his outfit meant to be bone is the choker which looks like a block of plastic. I wish for kataras they didn't just stick fur rims on and made the whole thing look fur like, and for sokkas.. idk. But it doesn't look right, and with how colourful and detailed inuit clothing can be i really hoped for a bit more. I understand these are promo shots so im not gonna be too nit picky about how clean they look, but I will say that they don't look possible in the atla world. It worked in animation bc it was animated, but in the live it just looks out of place
"You need to lean into the 'un-realism of it" Beautiful phrasing there, and probably the most accurate way of describing how one should approach adapting any other media to live-action. Especially the 'lean into' part. It's all about creating believable fantasy and not necessarily going for (hyper) realism.
I think the costumes look like COSTUMES.
Agreed
Sokka armor is ok. My problem is that they all look deadpan
It all looks very cheap to me
They dont feel lived in They look too clean, too wrinkleless for the situation
They look like amazing cosplayers.
Aesthetically, I wish they had kept the different eye colors of the characters that were based on their bending background, bht otherwise I really love this first look
I'm skeptical but also cautiously optimistic. I will wait to be more invested in this till I see a full trailer. I think ATLA is so special to a lot of people and it's great to hear the people working on it are passionate about it. I hope that holds true and is not just a PR thing they have to aay.
Well, my first reaction was certainly disappointment. I kinda hate most of the costume design, it doesn’t look lived in, I guess? It looks like people cosplaying these characters, not people living in another world, and I personally find that quite important so I can feel immersed in a story. When something is live-action, it’s simply harder to suspend one’s disbelief.
Interested to hear your thoughts though! Writing this before starting the video
I agree they don't feel lived in! I think seeing some dirt/age of the clothes would do a lot, and I don't think you'd have to sacrifice the colour all that much.
@@HelloFutureMeSage words.😊😊😊😊
@@HelloFutureMe if people can waterbend then surely rudimentary washing machines exist
@@genericscottishchannel1603items like jeans also fade when you wash them.
@@HelloFutureMe That would definitely help! Ironically I feel most apprehensive about Katara’s costume design because of that. The design itself is great! But it looks very… new? Modern, white, spotlessly clean - not very befitting of their more-so poor village.
Either way, perhaps I’m a little scared to be too positive, hence my immediate negative reaction; all things considered, I really do look forward to the adaptation! Unlike others I’m pretty confident they’ll do fine on the writing-part, though. With the previous… attempt, they know what to avoid and are sure to have many talented writers on their side!
I'm surprised to say that I like the distinctive look they've gone for. I feel like it gives an immediate visual difference vs. a lot of the fantasy live action adaptation we've seen. Its s bit more animation oriented and I like that its very readable.
For sure. While it's a little bit jarring right now I'll take neon over the greyscale bullshit any day
You mentioned the love and care the cast and crew have for the series which at face value seems all great and good. However, I have heard the exact same "love and care" stated for both the One Piece and Cowboy Bebop so I shall temper my expectations accordingly.
pretty sure sokka's costume is the warrior outfit from the first episode, when he's trying to fight off zuko (or perhaps in the finale, when he enlists in the army) rather than casual clothes he's going to be wearing throughout
Katara looks the closest to what I've expected. She just "clicks" somehow.
I only started looking into Aaron Ehasz after a little after the Netflix show was announced. I do feel both he and Elizabeth have a large word in some of the episodes and arcs as stated. I jumped in the Dragon Prince shortly after, and tho that show has its's own problems (pacing by sticking to a pattern as well as not contiguous animated lore) the worldbuilding is truly fantastic.
Brian and Mike for sure had a lot to do being the main two, but i wonder how truly there short time on the project will effects the base of the the show and maybe some core components of the series.
Where you ask about One Piece, it turned out amazing!!! Globally loved and confirmed to have broken LAA curse
Cautiously optimistic is the best I can describe my feelings, as well. Loved the animation and think this can be done if care is taken.
I'm pretty optimistic about how good the bending will look, mainly given how good the interactive CGI in Dr Strange and His Dark Materials has been
I’m fine on Sokka because they clearly wanted hide armor, but still wanted it to at least elude to his cartoon costume. It would have been real easy to clad him in thick hides and call it a day, citing realism, but I think the intention is good.
Very good video! I dont agree with that it is messy! It was a very organic easy going video. Thanks for the video! I was sceptical but i suppose some of my worries have been tempered a bit :)
I think I feel the same way for this teaser as I do for the One Piece teaser: cautiously hopeful. I think there is a lot that I look at and think "I could see that being cool/good/interesting/faithful adaptation", but I'm wary because of how hard it is to translate the freedom inherent in animated media to live action.
I believe Sokka is wearing some kind of special North Pole armor for the siege.
I really hope they don't cram book 1 into a 10 episode season. It will feel too cramped if so.
@@bartandaelus359 I'm pretty sure that's confirmed. But I doubt they'll include everything. They'll be cutting stuff like the fortune teller, and the great devide, and mutch of other epsidoes like bato of the water tribe to make more time for more important things.
I think it all looks fine for promotional stuff. I agree that things don't really look lived in, but I'm gonna reserve judgment until the show actually comes out. none of us really know where the scenes the images are pulled from or what touchups were done for these promo pix vs what we will actually see in the show. I think its exciting that we arent getting closer and I remain cautiously optimistic for the whole series. We shall see what we shall see.
They LOOK great, really faithful to the source material, now let's see some acting and some CGI!
One of the big mistakes Shyamalan's Avatar made, was it made the bending look so difficult, like in that earthbending scene, you had to have half a dozen men perform nearly a dozen moves just to move a little fist-sized rock! If you tried that in war, you'd get shot by an arrow 2 moves in!
Them adding a polearm head to the more ornate version of the fire nation symbol on zuko's should is really neat. That looks just like the weapon a lot of nonbender fire nation troops wielded.
I think the costumes look good overall. I like how they tried to be faithful to the original appearances, like with Aang’s orange shawl, Zuko’s helmet, and of course Katara’s iconic hair loopies. In the nonexistent movie, “Aang” looked like a white kid wearing a generic Buddhist monk outfit, and “Katara” and “Sokka” looked like wildlings from GOT with the regular brown parkas they were wearing at the beginning.
That said, I do hope the costumes undergo some kind of chemical treatment to make them look more weathered/textured. The costumes themselves look great, but very new. However, these pics seem to be promo pics rather than actual stills (note the saturated color, polished costumes, characters’ dramatic poses/expressions, and the complete lack of background characters or action). Hopefully the costumes in the actual show will look a little more worn.
But if the show itself is good overall, I can definitely ignore some overly pristine costumes.
I'm skeptical but excited :) The original series will always have a special place in my heart and I just hope this Netflix version will be good enough to bring the story even more attention because this series totally deserves it!
I think part of the color thing that could really work is that their clothes are not 'natural found colors' and are almost cartoony bright so it gives us that grounding in the animated show but their environment is more 'naturally colored' which would give grounding in reality. And it's really not that big of a change in what we see all around us anyway. Our clothes can often be extremely bright and if you look at other cultures, as he pointed out with some of the monk's garments, they can be insanely bright.
i like the sound of the teaser. the sound of the elements sounds very nice imo
Willow's commentary was insightful and sophisticated. I have never before had such thoughts revealed unto me.
It’s hard to explain but seeing characters that I expect to be animated look like real people kinda gives me uncanny valley vibes. It’s kinda like AI art where it’s too perfect to actually be perfect. Still hyped tho.
At least you can do that at all. With the movie there was no fooling anyone 😂
I agree with alot of these comments. the design of the costumes are good (hopefully that is a special outfit on sokka), with good colors, but it all looks a bit pristine. Like they just pulled it out of the box and its never been worn or washed before. It needs to look like its existed for more than a day
I hope, for god sake, they do one key thing. Make the actors watch at least the first episode of the show. You learn so many key things there. General personalities, interactions between the characters, how to say the character's DAMN NAMES RIGHT!