Ford Focus Mk3 1.0 Ecoboost - P0299 - When A Job Bites You
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- In this video we shall be diagnosing a 2017 Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost with a loss of power. The concern was confirmed on road test a Fault code P0299 was stored. The video shows the diagnosis path, however, there was a hidden and not initially detected fault which bit me on road test. Unfortunately this job turned sour and became the job that bites me
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I had the same thing and went about it the same way. Definitely clean the oil strainer out, mine was blocked with timing belt fibre
That happened to our engine also. The vacuum pump was well, but the turbo went to turbo heaven.
I have been in this position a few times... either because I was rushing through too fast, or plain didn't do the right tests. Kicking myself in the end every time and being extremely hard on myself.
I'm glad you shared this Steve, since you succeeded in the end, it's even better. It's hard to show the fumbles, but it's helpful to show that everyone has "off" days. I give you props 👏 You stuck through it.
Hi Cuba, yes, we're all human after all. In the end with this vehicle, the turbo got replaced and the sump removed to clean the pick up. The turbo shaft had snapped
@@SYDiagnostics oh no!! The car that keeps on giving!! 😢😬
@@SYDiagnostics See this a lot on transits where the shaft snaps
We’ve all been in this position at some time in our careers my friend 🥺 I once put some time into tracking down a hdi injector fault (after a clearly failed return flow test on cranking) only to find the driver of said van had miss fuelled & driven till the exhast impeller melted off allowing the intake impeller to move across and restrict the intake air flow on road test . However much we’d all like to be perfect every time the reality is we’re only human 👍👍
Thanks for posting Steve, us technicians are expected to be the all seeing eye 👁. But unfortunately it is very hard to cover every angle all of the time. Great video 🙏👍
I just finished one of these. Car came in with no oil pressure, did both belts and oil pump. Car left me stranded on test drive when Turbo failed, exact same symptoms and no codes. Turbo failed from lack of oil pressure. It took 20 miles to quit. I'm glad it failed before it was returned to customer.
Great video and every word every letter you said is true especially “that sinking feeling”
Anyway all the best take care and thanks again for sharing
Thanks for sharing Steve that feeling in your gut when it's not fixed is horrible but it shows your care which is great no doubt you will get it sorted well done
Awesome case study, love the process.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge you are truly a professional in this field amazing video 👍
Just diagnosed the exact issue and same fix procedure. Actuator arm fluctuating not holding a steady vacuum. Replaced vacuum pump, actuator now functioning as it should, turbo not spinning, new turbo to be fitted, sump to be removed oil pickup checked for clogging and oil feeds to turbo to be checked prior to fitting. Got to fix other faults sometimes before finding the jackpot.
Great video, I work on volvos and the D5 one way valve on the vac pump is bad for failing. Makes a ticking noise on idle but they do a repair kit for it.
Earned a subscriber 👍👍
I've heard the volvo one fits and works
Putting an inline one-way valve on the vacuum pump might be a nice diagnostic aid in this circumstance? THANKS for your video's they are very educational!
Finally Steve is back, great work as usual, now how do you deal with customers like that, some of us own little garages of our own, where once the customer had a quote then he will stick to that quote, how do you deal with customer like that where a vacuum pump was 350£ ( and now the turbo is on top ) please guys anyone can answer this ( I have had happed this to me once which was not very long ago )
I prove to them the first part was justified if I can easily do it. Then if they are still not happy I acted in good faith, I swallow the labour charge for the part fitting. Then send them off with just a charge for the part & ask them to delete my number from their phone!
@@garybrown5500not too bad of a idea, but it can not work every time as some of the jobs we do takes hours of labour and the part is very expensive too ( i.e turbo ) I don't mind fitting a bulb and then turn around say okay just pay for part not the labour, I am talking about really tough jobs with big bills, but yeah I sometimes do same just ask them to pay for part and never show up again.
Thanks for sharing ! I would be sorting the control of turbo first too...
Hi m8 , I had one today same issue no power but no fault codes , had no vacuum from pump just very erratic, I pulled off connector and the little valve was broken , I incorporated a one way valve but it only gave me around 10 hg so condemned pump , but they sent cheap! I've seen valve kit on Ebay from £40 ,thanks for the video, came in handy today cheers
Thanks for posting this Steve
Great process. Vacuum vacuum vacuum.. one fault at a time
*****Easy fix. Place your finger over the small vacuum pump port that he connects to at 6:53 . If you can feel a vacuum but also blowing air the check valve that is the plastic port is bad. Remove the star fastener that holds in the small vacuum port (check valve) on the pump. Remove the plastic star shaped diaphragm holder and any remnants of the rubber check valve. Replace back on the pump and splice in an $8 vacuum check valve from Dorman to the vacuum line. Ford does not sell the check valve separate from the $160 pump. Worked great in my case as the pump was still good as I suspect the one in this video was. Don't forget to check that the solenoid is holding vacuum and all the other lines are intact. You definitely do not want to replace the vacuum solenoid like he did, Ford wants $900 for it. At least that's what my local dealer stated.
Dealership repair has to be "as manufacturer intended" . I've fitted check valves on orivate work
Another great video.
My sister had an ecosport with the 1.0 engine. 58000km and on its 3rd engine.....
Similar problems. Blocked oil pump 6 months ago (pathetically small strainer/strange debris); new pump fitted by a local garage, 4 months later no power/limp mode - failed diaphragm in vacuum pump (ridiculously fragile and ridiculous you cant buy one from Ford). Replaced diaphragm (bought off an ebay seller in Ukraine) and running ok for a month. Turbo has now failed; on removal found that no oil had been getting to it, checked external oil feed pipe which is clear. Oil pressure light goes out so I'm assuming there's a blockage between the oil filter and pump. What a nightmare of an engine. Looks like it's back to the garage again and £s more expense.
Always change the oil, or the timing belt will degrade earlier than expected and replacing that is a hell of a job.
Customer declined an oil change!!! How ironic! Probably the attitude that killed his/ her turbo.
Do you think that more regularly changing the oil and filter would solve these wet belt issues? The ones I’ve heard of seems to be poxy customers who think they know better……….
tks
hi, great video replacement fuel pump ford focus Ecco boost 1.0 l
Really enjoyed this video 👍 Could this turbo failure be due to poor maintenance and lack of oil changes 🤔
Most likely yes, ultimately its oil starvation, probably from particles of Campbeltown
@@SYDiagnostics I had a version of this engine in a Focus and I had the oil/filter changed every 12 months regardless of mileage and never had an issue! It was on 47k when I part exchanged it for another Focus version 👍
Great video good diagnosis I think I understand now what I will do if I get one of these. First resistance test one white and red cables. Which wire gives u 12v please
Thanks for watching, Pin 1 is the 12v supply
@@SYDiagnostics what are the other two wires for as lambda sensors usually have 4 wires
I had totally similar problem with my 1.0EB 92kw. Randomly losing power, P132b triggered on diag. Mechanic checked vaccuum pump and it seems ok, it holds vacuum nicely. Turbo pressure was good and car run well. So we agreed we'll wait until it happens again and then i come again. Yesterday a lot of smoke started to come from the exhaust. So i towed it to my mechanic again. According to you video i think it's bad turbo too... But what caused it... vacuum seemed ok...
Usually it's oil starvation. Your oil pick up pipe may well be full of timing belt fragments
Nice video...🙏👍👌
I've not watched your video yet, but if it's an ecoboost just fast forward to putting a new engine in it.
Awesome video as always... Just two questions.... 1, With the lack of vacuum did this affect the brakes, lack of servo assistance? and 2.. If the exhaust was blocked could back pressure stall the turbo and stop it spinning..
the brakes where fine, the vacuum pump has a one way vacuum valve which fails causing the fluctuations when supplying the vacuum for the turbo solenoid, the brakes are not affected. In this case the turbo shaft had failed. I think it'd have to be a huge blockage to stall the turbo, not something i've ever witnessed
8:48 Oil change? the custommer declined unfortunately! This is so sad,
and it is a fault of the Ford dealerships and sales men, that they don't inform/teach their non-turbo-tech customers about the importance of oil changes and the little intricacies of this fine engine!
When I asked for the first oil-change at 1000 km of my new car, the comment was: unnecessary! An absolutely misleading advice. Now the car is at 90000km and still running well. 2015 Ford Tourneo EcoBoost 1.0 Albeit the undercarriage is quite rusty and I should have done something at maybe 3-4 years old. Every workday driving on salty roads in winter!
Where do you fit the one way valve in the hose? And what happens to the old one? Great video 👍
Excellent job, what do you think why MAP reading was so high at idle if turbo didn't work
I reckon it's because it's not breathing right. On initial snap throttle the map drops. But a known good is 320mbar when I checked
@@SYDiagnostics Thanks for explanation
it was probably the exhaust side letting exhaust gas into the inlet, enough to pressurise the inlet until the trottle was opened
@@damienkeohane4977 That makes sense thanks
Had to replace the vac pump the other day on one of those due to same fault good to see what we saw was the same lucky for them they got away without the turbo not working on a side note loving the vac/pressure gauge where did you get it
I've had it years, sorry I cant remember where from, pretty sure it was from USA . Innova is the brand
Hi, fantastic to see and hear your videos, do you know where to buy the ecoboost vacuum pump rubber valve, as I think you said ford don't supply the separate part?
on the ford connect van 2015 the vacuum turbo actuator has a wired connection is there a variable resister in it to show vgt rod position. if it fails does this give position sensor A over boost and position sensor A under boost fault codes.
Hi there, I have recently had a vacuum pump replaced due to there being no vacuum. I purchased a second-hand replacement the mechanic had fitted this and he said there was smoke coming from the engine and then it jammed and stopped the engine he then said that the because the vacuum pump jammed being connected to the camshaft it had bent to valves and the wet belt and skipped 2 teeth is this a common problem with these parts and have a destroyed my engine ford focus 1.0 ecoboost it has 100000 miles on the clock
So, because the vacuum pump was duff, there was no waste gate control and the turbo was over boosting which is what caused the turbo failure?
Turbo was under boosting because of no vacuum to the waste gate. Turbo shaft had snapped
@@SYDiagnostics oh. I understood the waste gate is held closed by a spring and the vacuum operated actuator opens it to reduce boost.
@@kevinmills5293 full vacuum is full boost and wastegate held closed, to bleed off boost the vacuum is bled off and the wastegate opens
What is the normal MAP reading with Full Throttle - is it 180-195kpa ?
I have a nearly the same Problem, Turbo is working i think but the accaloration is like a wave.
No Faul Codes activ, Longterm Fuel Strim is +10 - +20.
why did the brakes servo still work with no vac?
its only a little diaphragm that had failed for the turbo solenoid. The pump was still creating vacuum for the servo
Why replace the whole pump when you can just replace the oneway valve for a fraction of the cost?
Because this was a repair in a dealer and the valve isn't available as a seperate part
£8 on ebay just for the valve
looking like low oil pressure on this one with a fkd turbo and vacuum pump another eco boost pile of s****, maybe pissing against the wind trying to fix this engine
What vacum gauge you using mate
its an "innova" ive had for years. I think the closest to it is the innova 3620 which is 3.5" (mine is 4")
@@SYDiagnostics thank you mate 👍
Having similar loss of power problems with my 2012 1.0 focus
I got solenoid and all vacuum lines replaced as well as new turbo. Everything seems working nice, but when driving on the highway, mostly when it is bit uphill it goes to safe mode from time to time...
How to make sure that vac pump is not the problem? I mean it is obviously working 95% of time, but something is triggering it to go to safe mode.
Pls help :)
Maybe your vacuum pump is duff too and your getting over boost?
@@kevinmills5293 i will probably have to change vacuum pump as well. I was just thinking that if it was the problem then it wouldnt work at all, but it works most of the time
I was hoping maybe some sensors are triggering limp mode
When you say "New Turbo" did they replace the Blow off Valve (AKA: Air Recirculation Valve) aswell? This was my issue
What is a safe mode?
Is turbo failure common on these engine or due to abuse by customer?. So bearing in mind customer didn't want oil changed and car has broken heat shield I guess he wasn't interested in paying to fix it. ?
Turbo and engine failures aren't uncommon, mainly due to de-lamination of the wet timing belt blocking oil galleries and the sump pick up. The job is still ongoing with a new turbo ordered and possible sump removal
@@SYDiagnostics cheers Steve informative as always . Now go enjoy your Sunday and stop being sad like me.
At what sort of mileage do these faults occur and what was on this car? Great video, thanks
@@aslee3312 this had 62k miles
@@SYDiagnostics hey, um I mnot sure about this newer model but my 2013 model doesn't let the turbo spin at standstill. Wategate is fully open unless the car is actually moving, no matter how much you rev it
1 liter engine and there’s still no fucking room why are engineers fascinated with putting 10 lbs of shit in a 5lb bag look at the cars from the 1960s and early 70s even when they put a big block in a small car there was still room to work on it comfortably without ripping up your hands and arms. There’s a special place in hell for these people
Ikr the engine is like the size of a4 peice of paper but all the crap attached to it so theres still hardly any room in the engine bay
Do not change the pump its a rip off by the mechanics.That valve is sold separately by ebay. Minute 8 . That valve i bought it from ebay and changed it myself and its very very easy.Indeed it failed the rotary blade inside snaped and broke.Costs only £8 .Did not diagnosed it with the gage just changed it after seeing some reviews about it.
The video is a number of years old now, so at the time was a relatively new fault. The fault has been seen regularly now and people are findng new methods to repair. You didnt need a guage to diagnose due to people like me pioneering the way so others (keyboard warriors on forums) can just say ..yes its this or that.....
Very poor engine design these are, wet belt breaking up and blocking oil strainer etc
got too be the worst engine ever ,loads of problems