The biggest irony of this franchise to me is that Manny at the end of the first movie says that he'll never forget the baby, but the baby never appears in the future sequels nor is even brought up lmao
Why would he ever show up around a bunch of dangerous animals. And don’t give me that “he’d remember them” bullshit. He was a NEWBORN BABY he ain’t remembering shit. And why would they bring him up? That’s some private shit that all of them know about. It’s not something you talk to other people about and don’t need to talk to your friends about because THEY WERE THERE. It was a very personal emotional experience.
Prana sure I'll bite. Trex Yeah that happened so definitely. Space ship yeperony, now to forget that film existed. But the evolution in a fun way, being sids family, how?
I swear I heard somewhere that scrat was designed specifically to not resemble any animal in history, only that a couple years after the first film’s release, a prehistoric animal dating back to the ice age was discovered that looked *exactly like scrat*
Yeah, which is technically foreshadowing if the intent was there and there is any thematic links. But also not like... "WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS JUST HAPPENED?!"
@@NIRDIAN1 People have this weird idea that when things are handled this way, they think it was like a plan from the start versus keeping track of series history and building from that. FFXIV is another example where they build off of things from the past.
I definitely have seen it but the only thing I remember is they somehow protected the Earth from a falling meteor with magnets/crystals (???) as it reverted back to space for some reason? And the moral was if you have crystals that make you stay young it's your only value and you should always fight for them even with your life I guess
I’ve had to watch it (and 1-4) a couple thousand times, I used to babysit my cousin and she loves the ice age movies. I’m actually glad there’s 5 movies; I would have hated Ice Age by now if there were any less.😫
Ice Age, the movie that teacher's loved to show their elementary classes on Friday or before Christmas break. Anyone that had elementary school between 1999-2003 knows Ice Age, Shrek, Empires New Groove, Snow Dogs, Rugrats Go To Paris and the Goofy 2 movie where his son went to college w/ his friend's and Goofy joins them lol. That was the classic rotation for early 2000s kids that had cool teachers in elementary school. Good time's!
What’s even crazier is that in the first film Scrat the saber tooth squirrel was a made up animal but then somehow after the film was released paleontologists really said that they discovered a fossilized one.
I think the dinosaur is the only one that may have been foreshadowing for a potential sequel with dinosaurs. The rest just seem like callbacks or re-use of old assets designed in the first movie.
For me it was the cave art scene, that scared me a lot for some reason lol, and when I got older and it played In front of my sister, she got scared and I was of course fine with it cause I was older lol
For me it was the UFO - I just had this uncanny feeling of somehting missing in the storyline or something 😬 Or maybe that there just *has* to be a backstory to that
That was the creepy show ever in my life! I’m David But I’m 11 years old😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮. Is really creepy. I like ice age 2002. But that was really crazy but you, you’re my no. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 David. I will tell you a story that a man came out with a creaky knife at the window and his name was shine guy. It was really creepy. The movie.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 blood blood blood bloodddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
@@PNOYY For all I know it could be foreshadowing just as much as simply being a reference to the original. Regardless that’s clearly not what the dude in the video was trying to say. He’s acting like it’s some kind of mystical prediction, as if the team that worked on the later ice age movies had no access or memory of the first and as if the creators of the first ‘had no way of knowing what the future hold’ as if they needed to for whatever benign reason.
@@PNOYY Foreshadowing usually only exists when the creator(s) knew what was coming later on in the story and intentionally wrote in the foreshadowing for the purpose of hinting at what was to come. The filmmakers clearly did not plan out the entire pentology of movies from the beginning, so it’s hard to call it foreshadowing.
Same! I have a vivid memory of the first time I watched Ice Age and that was the best part. It was so cool to see a dinosaur frozen and to think about that kind of stuff irl was awesome to me as a child
There's no way they were planning on making 5 Ice Age movies back in 2002, they probably just added those things in the ice cave as throwaway visual gags and then made plots off of the dinosaur and UFO later when they were out of ideas. And the Sid's family one is probably just a coincidence
"What should we make these ice age sequels about?" "Idk just pick some bits from the first one and go off that" "You sure people won't realize how lazy we are?" "Nah they'll call it foreshadowing and think it's brilliant!"
@@bert0 Speaking of blocks of ice with creepy stuff in it look at these images static.wikia.nocookie.net/iceage/images/1/10/Ice_cave_t_rex_concept_art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200109173214 am.animatedviews.com/IceAgeMattePainting1.jpg
That's also forshadowing they could use for next movie something like Manny losing memory and getting kidnapped by humans and then he get memories back when he sees baby but grown up because he said at end of first movie that he will never forget him and that would be forshadowing even if they didn't plan that. If you build your world correctly you can use small things from start and make them bigger even if it wasn't in first plan and that's also forshadowing but if you do something and plan to use it 30 years later but you didn't built world that can support that and you don't bring it back then that's NOT forshadowing even tho it was planned
There’s actually a CZcamsr that worked on the fifth Ice age film I believe his name is Kevin Temmer Toons and makes great 3D animation and original music
Yeah! He came into my College back in 2017/ 2018 and did a talk/presentation/lesson about working for blue sky (fun fact from him, he put a Delorian from Back to the Future in Rio in the overhead shot, when Tulio is driving to the bird sanctuary)
Well I think the second one was also good. Though yes, the comedic elements in the first one were not as overdone and fitted well into the world, it’s definitely the most serious in the series by far. In fact, most of the comic relief solely falls on scrat and sid, it actually has a story to tell that isn’t solely for the sake of comedy
The fact that Sid invented skiing snowboarding football was the first animal to make fire AND proved the evolution theory in only the first movie is insane
My favorite foreshadow is when Scrat. Literally just when Scrat. He's a saber tooth squirrel which isn't even a species but they found a similar shrew-like mammal that looks a little *too* similar to him.
Fun fact: in the first movie, when Diego chases the baby's mother he saw her jump off a waterfall and stops immediately. Could simply be because he thought she would die from the fall/drown or because as we see in ice Age 2, he is extremely afraid of water
Never thought about it that way honestly, might be his fear of water and just the common sense of not jumping down froma waterfall when there are huge rocks at the bottom that could seriously injure or kill anyone.
This is true, but if you notice in the third part of the series the development of the sloth until it reaches Sid, which does not mean his family, but rather the development of the world and the formation of continents.
More like just references to those iceblocks. Something like: "Hey Jerry remember those frozen things from the first movie?" "Yeah" "Wouldn't it be cool to drop a reference to that in this new movie?" "Sure, why not"
You know they weren’t planning the 4 other movies when this came out right? Like maybe they were thinking of ideas for the second one but definitely not the other 3
Okay so obviously blue skies studios wasn’t thinking of it, and yes it may be coincidence, but nevertheless over time, it had become pretty damn good foreshadowing in a weird way. In my opinion the only stretch is the sloth in the ice but that’s it.
Which is exactly the point of the video. He's saying the way the scene lines up with future movies is way too good for something that wasn't even planned
@@polaknasieci1331 finally someone used their brain. is it really hard to believe they reviewed their old works to get new ideas for the sequels? lol how else would they know to expand their stories lol. sure it could have been foreshadowing but I think its safer to assume this wasnt a big elaborate plan dating 15 years ahead of its time lol.
More about trying to find a way to stop a meteor from hitting earth that scrat sent hurtling towards earth after finding and taking off in a spaceship.
In order to count anything from the first movie as references to any of the sequels, the creators must have known the sequels were going to be made, which seems less than likely. Chances are high that the scenes in the first movie were either used to move the story along, or as visual gags such as the pack stopping at a "red light" for an iceberg, and that the pirahnas, dinosaurs and ufo were references to the scene in Ice Age 1. The frozen sloths is more of a reference to the Theory of Evolution. Sid's family is a reference to the part in IA1 where Sid wakes up only to discover his family left him behind.
To be honest, the First Ice Age was really really good, the scene of Manny's family slaughtered in the cave paintings is really touching, something we have never seen again in those movies
So touching that I cry every damn time when I see it. It just tell a sad story without using single word, just pictures. And of course combined with the sad music.
@usmanzaffar4453The first movie is about a wooly mammoth, sabre-tooth tiger, and a sloth finding a human child and returning it to it's tribe. Manny is either the last, or one of the last living mammoths and is trying to find a companion. Cave paintings reveal his companions were slaughtered by the humans. I can't explain the significance (since it seems they ditched this idea in the sequels) but some context might help you.
What’s even crazier is when Radiohead foreshadowed the first Ice Age movie in their hit 2000 album labeled “Kid A”, with the lyrics “Ice Age coming, Ice Age coming” from the song “Idioteque”
Dude you are FORGETTING the two monster fish in the second movie! They were the main antagonists! Give that scene a rewatch I remember because I saw the series again recently!
What happened to them two after that movie? They should of shown up in the 3rd one or see Buck rounding them up and send them to the dinoland along with the others, so yeah
Sad fact: when Sid met manny, manny was standing at the edge of a cliff staring straight down probably thinking about jumping cuz as far as he knew he was the last of his species
Theyre not references to the movies, they literally jusy pulled the inspiration from that one scene, after the fact. Foreshadowing implies that the future event was already planned by the writiers.
Ice Age was my SHIT as a kid, although I watched the 2nd one first. I still love them, I do think they have lovely messages behind them (ie found family being equally important as blood family, even more if your blood family is shitty, and also learning to move on and getting help for your trauma that hinders your life) and they were genuinely fun
I'd rather bet that they didn't even do that. The ufo and dinosaurs are pretty generic concepts. You don't need to revisit this scene to think of them again. The piranha amounted to a joke and is also generic, and the family joke was a reference to an outdated science model. Connecting that to the family is an ass pull.
The funniest thing about the Ice Age movies for me is that despite there being 5 movies, humans are only shown in the first one. This makes me genuinely believe that they went extinct due to all the mass extinctions in every movie lmao. 💀💀
@@bert0 Nope. Foreshadowing is when you hint at what is to through setup. Retroactive continuity is when through new installments you reshape what had happened, which is the most likely scenario based on how these weren't really hints but rather gags on the first movies. You're falling for the oldest hack writer's trick in the book.
I remember the ice age movies by the Mammoth's life events. First movie they meet. Second movie they get married Third movie they have Peach Fourth movie Peach has a boyfriend Fifth movie Peach gets married
Every writer ive ever talked too and as a writer myself. Foreshadowing usually taked place in one movie or book. Most people dont plant little things this far out. It's accidental at best.
i adore these movies, they're my comfort movies. imo, theyre so much better than people give them credit for. mannys arc is just amazing. he goes from lonely and cynical having lost his wife and child, feeling like he failed to protect them. to finding ellie and making the choice to move on and try again, which was a choice he grappled with until the very end of the movie. along with struggling to let her have control of her choices with how much he worries. and then you see him become overprotective and frightened of the world when ellie is pregnant, but at the same time, allows himself to actually be excited and happy. when peaches grows up, you see he CLINGS to that protectiveness and feels the need to control every aspect of his daughters life. he sees at the end of the movie though, that shes not a little girl anymore and he lets up considerably on the control. and then in the last movie, he has to completely let go of that protectiveness and not only trust her fiance, but her too. the wedding scene in the last movie ALWAYS makes me cry. and yes, sid DID deserve to find true love and i enjoyed his arc of thinking he was a stud who deserved any woman ever and a rotation of women- to realizing there is value in settling down. yes he idealizes the concept a lot, especially after watching manny settle down and have a child. but he finally finds someone who loves him for HIM. nothings forced, theres no pity to it. she just loves sid and its very sweet. diegos story was a little more underwhelming especially as they did next to nothing with shira after continental drift. but i love that he continually chooses to stay with the herd. thats his family. i also love how he defies the stereotype of tough guy man never talks about feelings. manny harbored that belief and ellie was NOT amused and when he went to talk to diego, he opened up and talked so easily that manny was bewildered lol. buck was a wonderful character. granny will never not remind me of my mother, they HAD to have based her off of my mom lol. crash and eddie are fairly entertaining. julian was wild lol i was not expecting him but i love him and i think hes perfect for peaches. he makes her shine. i think theyre wonderful movies that showcase mixed/chosen family and a valuable lesson in letting go and trying again. even if you lose EVERYTHING, like manny had. like sid had. like diego had. you can still start over. you can still find and make your own family. and to me, that means a lot. i feel abandoned by my biological family. i relate a lot to sid lol. i just love these movies. anytime im anxious or sad, i pick a random one and fall asleep to it.
The movies got increasingly more bizarre as each one was released. Like we went from a somewhat realistic depiction of the Ice Age to eventually freaking Pirates with a Monke Captain in the 4th. I thought it couldn’t get any more bizarre, but then suddenly Ice Age 5 released and yeah… now we’re in SPACE! 💀💀
Ice Age should of concluded after the 3rd film. God I watch the fuck out of the 3rd movie when I was young! 4th one was OK, 5th was fucking terrible and the 6th "movie" is just beating a dead horse to it's bones... It had a interesting spin-off ideal about buck wild but too bad Disney fucked that up badly.
@@ViktorGerts Yes. I watched it on a 3rd party website to kill time and it's not even worth it. It is so fucking bad, I hope you like Crash and Eddie because even if it called "Buck wild" it's not the main focus on him which is baffling. Again, would be a good spin-off about Buck if the studio focus on him and his team only.
Yeah that’s exactly what I was gonna say. They clearly ran out of ideas, looked back at this scene and said “Hey! Let’s make these into movies!”. There’s no way they planned all 5 of these movies years ahead of time. The contrast in quality from the rest of the movies to the first film really makes it look like most of them were just cash grabs (especially continental drift onwards).
Writers ran out of ideas fo the next film and said: let's use up everything we put inside the ice cave. Then cooks up one of the best childhood movies ever
I think after finding the first movie had success, they were like "What could we do with a sequel?" and then some guy paused the movie at this scene on re-watch to get something, then was like "OOOOOH I HAVE AN IDEA"
I highly doubt it’s “foreshadowing”. Rather, when the creators were going to make the newer films they just decided to implement those themes. I don’t think BlueSky Studios planned on embarking on this 20 year long saga that’ll last over 4 films lmao
Why does foreshadowing need an award. I can tattoo the number 50 on my face and when I turn 50 tell everyone it was planned all those years ago, where my award
That reminds me of what Prince tells Haley before he disappears pretending to be a cop in the Dodge City Rambler episode of American Dad: "Write a song about a year that hasn't happened yet. Then when the year happens it'll blow up."
I just wanted a sequel where the baby was grown. Like maybe they’re being hunted but the humans recognise the group or something. I don’t care what the plot is. You could even tell it from the kids perspective and have the others just making animal sounds he can’t understand (I don’t actually want that lol, but I’d admittedly probably watch it). I never cared much for the plot or new characters in the sequels I did see. They don’t really even feel like sequels to the original. They just use some of the same characters.
@@genericname8727 The Meltdown in its latter part was weak, Manny and Ellie get together after what seems to have been less than a day, surviving from the flood and the bare marine mammal antagonists, and they decide that they’re both perfect for each other. The twist that the Mammoths were far from being extinct felt shoved in just to reassure Manny that his species will live on, it ruins the purpose of Ellie being there. But it’s an alright way of messaging to kids, “Don’t love someone because you have to, love someone because you want to.” But eh, that’s what I feel I guess.
The biggest irony of this franchise to me is that Manny at the end of the first movie says that he'll never forget the baby, but the baby never appears in the future sequels nor is even brought up lmao
Yeah that's so tragic. The least these sequels can do is have The Baby grow up and appear in 1 or 2 of them as a grown man, but no.
They really hate the baby do they?
(edit: woah how did I got 5k)
I don't even think we see any humans at all maybe with the expectations of the time travel by scrat
Why would he ever show up around a bunch of dangerous animals. And don’t give me that “he’d remember them” bullshit. He was a NEWBORN BABY he ain’t remembering shit.
And why would they bring him up? That’s some private shit that all of them know about. It’s not something you talk to other people about and don’t need to talk to your friends about because THEY WERE THERE. It was a very personal emotional experience.
@@pinedragon5398 hunting that was kinda one of their things
*Frozen cave shows evolution in a fun way*
"Oh, yeah, this is definitely a reference to Sid's family"
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well evolution needs family
It relates to both tbh
Prana sure I'll bite.
Trex Yeah that happened so definitely.
Space ship yeperony, now to forget that film existed.
But the evolution in a fun way, being sids family, how?
I thought of the monkey
I swear the Dinosaur and UFO scene scared me as a kid😭🙏🙏
Dude the t rex and the and the fish is what scared me lol
@@yousukatapexme too.
the 2 frozen sea dinos in the sequel scared me more
@@memescoffee3173 Cause of the creepy music that came with it
As a kid, the ufo was the most unsettling out of all things
Ye
Aliens visited Earth even before humanity existed duh. They prolly wiped out the dinosaurs to begin their Humanity project.
prove it@@intermilan9731
@@intermilan9731sarcasm?
@@SleepyHollowKnight nah forgot to take his meds
I swear I heard somewhere that scrat was designed specifically to not resemble any animal in history, only that a couple years after the first film’s release, a prehistoric animal dating back to the ice age was discovered that looked *exactly like scrat*
Well actually I heard it dated back to the dinosaurs.
@@andymcmillan2193 you are correct. It's called cronopio denticutus
@@noahcreutziger7690 yea that
The director's boardroom in unison; GOD DAMNIT!
@Wolfgang van Beethoven well yes but actually no, but also yes.
Less foreshadowing, more like they went back to the first film and said "hey, let's use that"
Exactly
exactly that
Yeah, which is technically foreshadowing if the intent was there and there is any thematic links.
But also not like... "WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS JUST HAPPENED?!"
@@NIRDIAN1 People have this weird idea that when things are handled this way, they think it was like a plan from the start versus keeping track of series history and building from that.
FFXIV is another example where they build off of things from the past.
Yeah
Technically all the sequel movies were really references to this scene🤣
i’m pretty sure they made this gallery first and then they thought “hey, let’s make every one of those images into a movie”
Ice age 5 is like a fever dream. I swear i've seen it, but it feels like it never existed.
You don't like the 5th Ice Age movie? I respect your opinion
I definitely have seen it but the only thing I remember is they somehow protected the Earth from a falling meteor with magnets/crystals (???) as it reverted back to space for some reason? And the moral was if you have crystals that make you stay young it's your only value and you should always fight for them even with your life I guess
I’ve seen it. Didn’t like it as much as I liked its predecessors.
I only remember the Scrat scenes, those were hilarious
I’ve had to watch it (and 1-4) a couple thousand times, I used to babysit my cousin and she loves the ice age movies. I’m actually glad there’s 5 movies; I would have hated Ice Age by now if there were any less.😫
ok but why is the dinosaur actually fucking terrifying
Because it's a dinosaur
It was Rudy's brother
Wait to see rudy
It actually made me jump wth😭😭😭💀💀💀💀
Same
I think is a foreshadowing of all future Villains :
Fishes, Dinosaurs, Monkey, Ufo...
Ice Age, the movie that teacher's loved to show their elementary classes on Friday or before Christmas break. Anyone that had elementary school between 1999-2003 knows Ice Age, Shrek, Empires New Groove, Snow Dogs, Rugrats Go To Paris and the Goofy 2 movie where his son went to college w/ his friend's and Goofy joins them lol. That was the classic rotation for early 2000s kids that had cool teachers in elementary school. Good time's!
What’s even crazier is that in the first film Scrat the saber tooth squirrel was a made up animal but then somehow after the film was released paleontologists really said that they discovered a fossilized one.
Is called Cronopio Dentiacutus
Oh wow omg
@@pixelzebra8440 not only they predicted 4 ice age movies, they predicted the real existence of scrat
@@Muffinn_Cakes Should've named it Scratticus Deeznutsus
@@dud3655 ...
Anyone sad that the company that made ice age, robots and rio got bought out?
And eventually dissolved
YES
I knew Disney would treat Blue Sky like garbage and I was right. Why couldn't they have been bought by Sony or something?
@@Hickory958 Wait, didnt sony work with them in the past
@@iArcherkylo they were owned by fox. Byproduct of the merger
@@Hickory958 they arguably would've been worse off. They were the guys who made the emoji movie
I just finished watching all the ice age movies and I wish they are making more 😭
I really wanna see Diego and Shira have a family.
This part of the movie always freaked me out as a kid but I still love the hell out of it. One of the best movies
The real question, are these setting up future movies, or are the future movies making callbacks to this movie?
I think the first one tbh
Second most likely
the duality of man
I think the dinosaur is the only one that may have been foreshadowing for a potential sequel with dinosaurs. The rest just seem like callbacks or re-use of old assets designed in the first movie.
It's probably the latter
That t-rex scarred me for life ever since i was young
Lmao
It’s underwater. That effect makes it absolutely terrifying. That plus the art style
For me it was the murder fish in the second ice age. Not the piranhas but the dinosaur looking ones
@@guhbruhmaste4557 YES BRO ME TOO
@@guhbruhmaste4557 especially the way they killed that one guy and ate him out of his shell. That traumatizing me
Plot twist: blue sky just used this scene as inspiration for the sequels
I refuse to believe they actually had all of that planned
As a child the ice scene scared the hell out of me, especially the dinosaur
Yeah I remember jumping when they showed the frozen dinosaur
For me it was the cave art scene, that scared me a lot for some reason lol, and when I got older and it played In front of my sister, she got scared and I was of course fine with it cause I was older lol
For me it was the UFO - I just had this uncanny feeling of somehting missing in the storyline or something 😬 Or maybe that there just *has* to be a backstory to that
Yeah I was terrified when I watched this scene
I saw it as funny, because I always saw the fish as "being scared of something" and that "something" turns out to be the dinosaur.
The fifth movie was actually inspired by that UFO lmao
The franchise should’ve ended at the 4th movie, as long as Scrat Tales still happened. The first 4 movies were great!
Ok GTA onlines cheapest vehicle/motorcycle that isn't free
@@DestructiveDan1 um... what?
Oh yeah, there was a short film about Scrat encountering a UFO I swear
@@embroideredragdoll That was the start of the fifth movie
Scrat is a legend
Also they foreshadowed scrat being an actual prehistoric being. The sabretootj squirrel was only discovered after the films came out
That was the creepy show ever in my life! I’m David
But I’m 11 years old😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮. Is really creepy. I like ice age 2002. But that was really crazy but you, you’re my no. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
David. I will tell you a story that a man came out with a creaky knife at the window and his name was shine guy. It was really creepy. The movie.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 blood blood blood bloodddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
People: making references to something in the past
Internet: “how this thing predicted the future”
Clout.
Fr, this guy might as well have said "There's ice in the first movie which was a prediction of the ice in the next movie"
do yall understand what foreshadowing is lmao. this is not a reach and has been a known thing abt the ice age movies for years now
@@PNOYY
For all I know it could be foreshadowing just as much as simply being a reference to the original.
Regardless that’s clearly not what the dude in the video was trying to say.
He’s acting like it’s some kind of mystical prediction, as if the team that worked on the later ice age movies had no access or memory of the first and as if the creators of the first ‘had no way of knowing what the future hold’ as if they needed to for whatever benign reason.
@@PNOYY Foreshadowing usually only exists when the creator(s) knew what was coming later on in the story and intentionally wrote in the foreshadowing for the purpose of hinting at what was to come. The filmmakers clearly did not plan out the entire pentology of movies from the beginning, so it’s hard to call it foreshadowing.
The ice cave section is my favorite, it was just so fascinating as a kid
Indeed. :)
Same! I have a vivid memory of the first time I watched Ice Age and that was the best part. It was so cool to see a dinosaur frozen and to think about that kind of stuff irl was awesome to me as a child
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bro how hold are you? you must have discovered that before them are you like 1Million years old???
Facts
They tried to warn us…
For some reason that ufo is just really wierd and mysterious
Maybe they just had the models sitting around and said, "eh, fuck it."
There's no way they were planning on making 5 Ice Age movies back in 2002, they probably just added those things in the ice cave as throwaway visual gags and then made plots off of the dinosaur and UFO later when they were out of ideas. And the Sid's family one is probably just a coincidence
Nbs that’s what I think I thought ice age was goon end after dawn of the dinosaurs 👌🏾
yea i think so too
Yes
Exactly!
Basically ur saying all of it is a coincidence
It’s simple: they made a single joke into more movies.
The fact that scrat wasn’t meant to be a real animal but years later they found out that there was a saber-toothed squirrel around the ice age period
You forgot that when the kid looks at the space ship he gives the 'live long and prosper' gesture from Star Trek
Oh, the Vulcan salute.
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She
@@manhathaway wait that *thing* is a female specimen
Yuuuuup. Only a few caught that 😂 damn us nerds 🤓
"What should we make these ice age sequels about?"
"Idk just pick some bits from the first one and go off that"
"You sure people won't realize how lazy we are?"
"Nah they'll call it foreshadowing and think it's brilliant!"
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@@bert0 Speaking of blocks of ice with creepy stuff in it look at these images static.wikia.nocookie.net/iceage/images/1/10/Ice_cave_t_rex_concept_art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200109173214 am.animatedviews.com/IceAgeMattePainting1.jpg
This needs to be a pitch meeting
How is it lazy?
That's also forshadowing they could use for next movie something like Manny losing memory and getting kidnapped by humans and then he get memories back when he sees baby but grown up because he said at end of first movie that he will never forget him and that would be forshadowing even if they didn't plan that. If you build your world correctly you can use small things from start and make them bigger even if it wasn't in first plan and that's also forshadowing but if you do something and plan to use it 30 years later but you didn't built world that can support that and you don't bring it back then that's NOT forshadowing even tho it was planned
Correlation doesnt equal causation 😂 they had no clue they were gonna make sequels.
Pixar: "Let's foreshadow our next movie with the current one."
Blue Sky Studios: "Let's foreshadowe ALL of our movies."
There’s actually a CZcamsr that worked on the fifth Ice age film I believe his name is Kevin Temmer Toons and makes great 3D animation and original music
yeah, and he even owns a video of which one he animating the model at the movie
He worked on Ice Age!?! I know him from his music.
@@a_literal_crow Yeah it’s in one of his videos if you check the credits he’s there ( it’s the ufo one by the way )
Yeah, was a big part of blu sky before it shut down. Still upset over that
Yeah! He came into my College back in 2017/ 2018 and did a talk/presentation/lesson about working for blue sky (fun fact from him, he put a Delorian from Back to the Future in Rio in the overhead shot, when Tulio is driving to the bird sanctuary)
The first Ice Age movie is simply fantastic. It was simple, had a nice story, not overloaded with tonnes of annoying characters.
the first is usually always the best
Like umm let’s see:
Despicable Me
Sing
Secret Life Of Pets
Ice Age
Sonic The Hedgehog
Look I could be here all day
Well I think the second one was also good. Though yes, the comedic elements in the first one were not as overdone and fitted well into the world, it’s definitely the most serious in the series by far. In fact, most of the comic relief solely falls on scrat and sid, it actually has a story to tell that isn’t solely for the sake of comedy
@@GroovinGuywhen they introduced the two rodents the series started to fall downhill
Sonic 2 was good tbf@@TheCupcakeMan777
The fact that Sid invented skiing snowboarding football was the first animal to make fire AND proved the evolution theory in only the first movie is insane
And the fact that Sid stinks as 🗑️ foreshadows the sixth movie.
My favorite foreshadow is when Scrat. Literally just when Scrat. He's a saber tooth squirrel which isn't even a species but they found a similar shrew-like mammal that looks a little *too* similar to him.
It's not a requirement to believe that bullshit
Fun fact: in the first movie, when Diego chases the baby's mother he saw her jump off a waterfall and stops immediately. Could simply be because he thought she would die from the fall/drown or because as we see in ice Age 2, he is extremely afraid of water
Never thought about it that way honestly, might be his fear of water and just the common sense of not jumping down froma waterfall when there are huge rocks at the bottom that could seriously injure or kill anyone.
That actually makes sense
Bluesky had no plans of turning this into a franchise. It really is just a coincidence.
This is true, but if you notice in the third part of the series the development of the sloth until it reaches Sid, which does not mean his family, but rather the development of the world and the formation of continents.
There are no accidents
- Master Oogway
Accidents? of course not they arent any accidents right master oogway
Exactly!
Dont take advice from kung foo panda
@@_________. it's always good to take advice from a old wise 🐢
Actually there was a car accident yesterday consisting 2 children and parents.
That ice scene left me feeling uneasy for some reason, every time
With the music and the look of it, I think it was supposed to. Cause it did the same thing to me 💀
I loved it
Same here haven’t seen this movie in a long time. Thought maybe it was just nostalgia or because I was young glad I’m not the only one.
I used to be so scared of this thing
I don't know which movie but the scene with monstrous fish under frozen lake also scared me
Scrat didn’t just have *A* ufo, he has THAT ufo
More like just references to those iceblocks. Something like:
"Hey Jerry remember those frozen things from the first movie?"
"Yeah"
"Wouldn't it be cool to drop a reference to that in this new movie?"
"Sure, why not"
You know they weren’t planning the 4 other movies when this came out right? Like maybe they were thinking of ideas for the second one but definitely not the other 3
Okay so obviously blue skies studios wasn’t thinking of it, and yes it may be coincidence, but nevertheless over time, it had become pretty damn good foreshadowing in a weird way. In my opinion the only stretch is the sloth in the ice but that’s it.
Which is exactly the point of the video. He's saying the way the scene lines up with future movies is way too good for something that wasn't even planned
I think it was the other way around; they based the new movies on the ice blocks.
@@polaknasieci1331 finally someone used their brain. is it really hard to believe they reviewed their old works to get new ideas for the sequels? lol how else would they know to expand their stories lol. sure it could have been foreshadowing but I think its safer to assume this wasnt a big elaborate plan dating 15 years ahead of its time lol.
@@Leomorg731 Yhea I could see them maybe planing ahead to the second movie but after that I just don't buy it.
Is the 5th “movie” actually a whole ass movie about scrat on a ufo though
More about trying to find a way to stop a meteor from hitting earth that scrat sent hurtling towards earth after finding and taking off in a spaceship.
Unfortunately yes
@@Cris-pt3jw WHAT?! FORTUNATELY
@@Tobythefirst1 Ice Age 5 was absolute dogshit
@@RedRacc The scrat scenes were midly funny.
What’s most impressive to me is that each movie was a banger imo
In order to count anything from the first movie as references to any of the sequels, the creators must have known the sequels were going to be made, which seems less than likely.
Chances are high that the scenes in the first movie were either used to move the story along, or as visual gags such as the pack stopping at a "red light" for an iceberg, and that the pirahnas, dinosaurs and ufo were references to the scene in Ice Age 1.
The frozen sloths is more of a reference to the Theory of Evolution. Sid's family is a reference to the part in IA1 where Sid wakes up only to discover his family left him behind.
imagine this dinosaur was unfrozen at some point in ice age 3
Oh crap
You mean, thawed?
@@___Laura5 english is not my main language sorry
@@kaz4184 no worries buddy
I don’t think you can live after getting frozen to death but you can do anythingg in a movie
To be honest, the First Ice Age was really really good, the scene of Manny's family slaughtered in the cave paintings is really touching, something we have never seen again in those movies
So touching that I cry every damn time when I see it. It just tell a sad story without using single word, just pictures. And of course combined with the sad music.
@usmanzaffar4453The first movie is about a wooly mammoth, sabre-tooth tiger, and a sloth finding a human child and returning it to it's tribe.
Manny is either the last, or one of the last living mammoths and is trying to find a companion.
Cave paintings reveal his companions were slaughtered by the humans.
I can't explain the significance (since it seems they ditched this idea in the sequels) but some context might help you.
@usmanzaffar4453 I've only seen the first one. I knew about 2 and 3 but had no idea 4 and 5 existed
Yes, technically, but 2-5 are fantasy bs
@@mvalthegamer2450never saw 4 or 5 but 2 and 3 are good kindly fk off
What’s even crazier is when Radiohead foreshadowed the first Ice Age movie in their hit 2000 album labeled “Kid A”, with the lyrics “Ice Age coming, Ice Age coming” from the song “Idioteque”
"He is moving on from speedrunning"
Understandable. Dude has set 7 world recordd now with the most recent cutting a whole minute off of time.
Dude you are FORGETTING the two monster fish in the second movie! They were the main antagonists! Give that scene a rewatch I remember because I saw the series again recently!
What happened to them two after that movie? They should of shown up in the 3rd one or see Buck rounding them up and send them to the dinoland along with the others, so yeah
@@bradwhite5884 I think they got crushed by a big icicle or something
@@bradwhite5884 They got fatally crushed by boulders.
@Mom First of all, they died. And secondly, the sea is freaking HUGE.
@Mom Oh, okay.
Sad fact: when Sid met manny, manny was standing at the edge of a cliff staring straight down probably thinking about jumping cuz as far as he knew he was the last of his species
Oh, that's sad
I always have a special place in my heart for Sid. He is the best and most entertaining animated character I have ever seen.
Poor Sid😕I'd like to give him a hug but he's probably stankin'💀
@@khuziwesithole6719 It's not Sid it's Manny
The first Ice Age is the best Ice Age movie.
Theyre not references to the movies, they literally jusy pulled the inspiration from that one scene, after the fact. Foreshadowing implies that the future event was already planned by the writiers.
Easter Egg References in these 5 IceAge Movies make sense.
The Sid thing isn’t referencing his family. It was just showing the evolution of sloths
those sloths could be sid's ancestors
@@dinosaurusrex1482im guessing you don't understand the whole ancestry thing
@@ruthrobles4594 they could have died after having kids
You're not that smart...@@dinosaurusrex1482
@@dinosaurusrex1482you do realize that to get from the first "sloth" they shown up until Sid takes millions of years right?
Ice Age is, weirdly enough, one of my favorite franchises. I like most of them, to be honest and I only watched them all a few months ago.
Like my man just said, I didn’t even know there was a fifth Ice Age movie
@@iqgamer5085
Collision Course was probably in the middle for me. Continental Drift, on the other hand, gets a bad rep.
Ice Age was my SHIT as a kid, although I watched the 2nd one first. I still love them, I do think they have lovely messages behind them (ie found family being equally important as blood family, even more if your blood family is shitty, and also learning to move on and getting help for your trauma that hinders your life) and they were genuinely fun
1,2,3 is the only good once
It also has bst ending ever
They did a good job. These are not references from the movies, these are the settimg which then used to develop the sequels
I always thought Sid looking at the stuff in the ice freaked me out as a kid
I bet they didn't plan shit and just came back to this scene when making the sequels
I doubt even that, seems like they just pulled shit out of their ass and people stretch to try to connect it to this scene.
I'd rather bet that they didn't even do that.
The ufo and dinosaurs are pretty generic concepts. You don't need to revisit this scene to think of them again.
The piranha amounted to a joke and is also generic, and the family joke was a reference to an outdated science model. Connecting that to the family is an ass pull.
THEY MADE 5?!
That's news to me. Gdi now I have to watch the others after that emotional goodbye from Scrat when their studio shut down
they made 6
@@cowboyfromhell666 yeah but don't watch the sixth one its actually a lazy cash grab made by Disney
It doesn't even look finished
And it wasn't a goodbye idiot
@@cowboyfromhell666 It's a spin-off
Space as punishment is exactly what the avoidant does and it feels like they need to experience that to have a lil empathy.
The funniest thing about the Ice Age movies for me is that despite there being 5 movies, humans are only shown in the first one. This makes me genuinely believe that they went extinct due to all the mass extinctions in every movie lmao. 💀💀
Retroactive continuity.
It's not hard to do, nor is does it mean things were really foreshadowing and planned from the start
Boi shut up
Thats what forshadowing is lol🤡
@@bert0 Nope. Foreshadowing is when you hint at what is to through setup. Retroactive continuity is when through new installments you reshape what had happened, which is the most likely scenario based on how these weren't really hints but rather gags on the first movies.
You're falling for the oldest hack writer's trick in the book.
@@rafaelcastor2089 rewrite what u said but in english and put a little iq in it
@@bert0 Whatever could you mean, my functionally illiterate dude...
I remember the ice age movies by the Mammoth's life events.
First movie they meet.
Second movie they get married
Third movie they have Peach
Fourth movie Peach has a boyfriend
Fifth movie Peach gets married
👍
I didn’t even know there were five of them!
Me, who only watched the first: what the fuck is a peach
@@dreamerofthorns lmao same.... I think it's Manny's daughter
Sixth movie Crash and Eddy move out
Thanks, I just got myself spoiled.
The first one was great. Didn’t need any sequels.
Not just that scrat himself was shockingly Found a real species after the show came out
A movie director once told me: Behind every small choice and every detail, lies a conscious meaning
Every writer ive ever talked too and as a writer myself. Foreshadowing usually taked place in one movie or book. Most people dont plant little things this far out. It's accidental at best.
@@coltoncowan682Hardly accidental they could easily just use that scene as the basis for future movies
God i swear if someone doesnt make a hypothetical elephant culture ill do it myself
The fact it shows which future movies comes out and no one notices it.
i adore these movies, they're my comfort movies. imo, theyre so much better than people give them credit for. mannys arc is just amazing.
he goes from lonely and cynical having lost his wife and child, feeling like he failed to protect them.
to finding ellie and making the choice to move on and try again, which was a choice he grappled with until the very end of the movie. along with struggling to let her have control of her choices with how much he worries.
and then you see him become overprotective and frightened of the world when ellie is pregnant, but at the same time, allows himself to actually be excited and happy.
when peaches grows up, you see he CLINGS to that protectiveness and feels the need to control every aspect of his daughters life. he sees at the end of the movie though, that shes not a little girl anymore and he lets up considerably on the control.
and then in the last movie, he has to completely let go of that protectiveness and not only trust her fiance, but her too.
the wedding scene in the last movie ALWAYS makes me cry.
and yes, sid DID deserve to find true love and i enjoyed his arc of thinking he was a stud who deserved any woman ever and a rotation of women- to realizing there is value in settling down. yes he idealizes the concept a lot, especially after watching manny settle down and have a child. but he finally finds someone who loves him for HIM. nothings forced, theres no pity to it. she just loves sid and its very sweet.
diegos story was a little more underwhelming especially as they did next to nothing with shira after continental drift. but i love that he continually chooses to stay with the herd. thats his family. i also love how he defies the stereotype of tough guy man never talks about feelings. manny harbored that belief and ellie was NOT amused and when he went to talk to diego, he opened up and talked so easily that manny was bewildered lol.
buck was a wonderful character.
granny will never not remind me of my mother, they HAD to have based her off of my mom lol.
crash and eddie are fairly entertaining.
julian was wild lol i was not expecting him but i love him and i think hes perfect for peaches. he makes her shine.
i think theyre wonderful movies that showcase mixed/chosen family and a valuable lesson in letting go and trying again. even if you lose EVERYTHING, like manny had. like sid had. like diego had. you can still start over. you can still find and make your own family. and to me, that means a lot. i feel abandoned by my biological family. i relate a lot to sid lol. i just love these movies. anytime im anxious or sad, i pick a random one and fall asleep to it.
This was nice to read! hope you’re doing ok , take care :)
Dang, bro wrote an entire book.
This is beautiful. Thanks 😊
I love all 5 Main Ice Age Movies. I tend to find the first movie a little boring, but I like every movie
I understand it, Ice Age also has been very special to me, the way you relate to it is beautiful
"reference" implies that they already had all of the sequels in mind. These aren't foreshadowing, and these aren't references.
Why isn't this the top comment?
If this was planned from the beginning, then it's the most insane foreshadow I've seen in my entire life
Foreshadowing? This is literally turning a gag into a sequel
If I had a nickel for every-time someone said foreshadowing and didn’t understand what it meant.
They technically got it right...
The movies got increasingly more bizarre as each one was released. Like we went from a somewhat realistic depiction of the Ice Age to eventually freaking Pirates with a Monke Captain in the 4th. I thought it couldn’t get any more bizarre, but then suddenly Ice Age 5 released and yeah… now we’re in SPACE! 💀💀
Everytime i mentioned Ice age 5 to my friends they go "yeah? When is it coming out?"
RIP Ice age franchise, will always be a huge part of my childhood ❤
Ice Age should of concluded after the 3rd film. God I watch the fuck out of the 3rd movie when I was young!
4th one was OK, 5th was fucking terrible and the 6th "movie" is just beating a dead horse to it's bones... It had a interesting spin-off ideal about buck wild but too bad Disney fucked that up badly.
@@haaxxx9 There was a 6th?
@@ViktorGerts Yes. I watched it on a 3rd party website to kill time and it's not even worth it. It is so fucking bad, I hope you like Crash and Eddie because even if it called "Buck wild" it's not the main focus on him which is baffling. Again, would be a good spin-off about Buck if the studio focus on him and his team only.
Maybe there will be a TV show on Netflix? .,.
Or a movie
@@red_reaper1729 why would it be on Netflix lmfao, Disney owns the rights to Ice Age now
I think they just took those ice things and made it work in the story 😑
Same thinking here bro
I mean there’s nothing wrong with looking at it as foreshadowing
Yeah that’s exactly what I was gonna say. They clearly ran out of ideas, looked back at this scene and said “Hey! Let’s make these into movies!”. There’s no way they planned all 5 of these movies years ahead of time. The contrast in quality from the rest of the movies to the first film really makes it look like most of them were just cash grabs (especially continental drift onwards).
@@gracekim25 That's like saying Han Solo kissing Leia is foreshadowing Kylo Ren.
@@gracekim25 except that it is just not foreshadowing
Writers ran out of ideas fo the next film and said: let's use up everything we put inside the ice cave.
Then cooks up one of the best childhood movies ever
Ice Age ended after 1. Everything else is just a kid version of it.
nah, dont diss on ice age 2 and especially 3
I think after finding the first movie had success, they were like "What could we do with a sequel?" and then some guy paused the movie at this scene on re-watch to get something, then was like "OOOOOH I HAVE AN IDEA"
Im glad im not the only one that didnt know there was a 5th movie 😂
"Dass es einen Grund für deine Entführung gibt. Warum du heute hier vorzufinden bist."
Ok das ging sehr schnell von Kinky zu Jigsaw
They were all weirdly great and 5 was a perfect ending and It can only go forward from here
The dinosaurs depicted in the ice age is just perfection. Cartoonified, but not _too_ cartoonified, so it just looks like a neat artstyle.
Bro when I was younger that dinosaur scared me to death 😂
I highly doubt it’s “foreshadowing”. Rather, when the creators were going to make the newer films they just decided to implement those themes. I don’t think BlueSky Studios planned on embarking on this 20 year long saga that’ll last over 4 films lmao
They didn't plan a damn thing😂
How do you know?
@zat1245 Come on Don't be ignorant
@@SupportGamin2024 Not an answer.
@@zat1245 literally clueless
@@eradict Prove it
If only there was an Ice Block containing a prehistoric mouse about to get his hands on a mammoth, a sloth and a sabre toothed tiger
That ufo still gives me chills
Why does foreshadowing need an award. I can tattoo the number 50 on my face and when I turn 50 tell everyone it was planned all those years ago, where my award
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this COMMMENT needs an award
💀💀dead
But what if you died before you even turn 50
@@Gilga07 foreshadowing that you would never reach the age 50
That reminds me of what Prince tells Haley before he disappears pretending to be a cop in the Dodge City Rambler episode of American Dad:
"Write a song about a year that hasn't happened yet. Then when the year happens it'll blow up."
"I didn't know they made five Ice Age movies."
I would argue they shouldn't have.
They should have stopped after two
@@starlight9304 no after dawn of the dinosaurs 2 was good but it was kinda boring 👌🏾
I just wanted a sequel where the baby was grown. Like maybe they’re being hunted but the humans recognise the group or something. I don’t care what the plot is. You could even tell it from the kids perspective and have the others just making animal sounds he can’t understand (I don’t actually want that lol, but I’d admittedly probably watch it). I never cared much for the plot or new characters in the sequels I did see. They don’t really even feel like sequels to the original. They just use some of the same characters.
Third and fourth were the best wdym
@@genericname8727 The Meltdown in its latter part was weak, Manny and Ellie get together after what seems to have been less than a day, surviving from the flood and the bare marine mammal antagonists, and they decide that they’re both perfect for each other. The twist that the Mammoths were far from being extinct felt shoved in just to reassure Manny that his species will live on, it ruins the purpose of Ellie being there. But it’s an alright way of messaging to kids, “Don’t love someone because you have to, love someone because you want to.” But eh, that’s what I feel I guess.
That dinosaur always gave me chills