How to Thrive With Navy In HOI4 Millennium Dawn
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
- This is the tutorial I have been promising for ages that will teach you the basics for making and using a navy in Millennium Dawn for hoi4. If you have any questions feel free to ask them in the comments and I will do my best to answer them. This is for the 1.7 update which dramatically reworks navy and land so if things don't look right make sure you have the right version.
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0:00 Beginning
0:19 Naval Overview
3:13 Modules
5:35 Navy Designs
8:26 Other Info
#hoi4 #millenniumdawn #navy - Hry
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Based stuff Hammu, I'd like to add a minor thing that I forgot last time we spoke: surface detection values of your ships are pooled together and if you have a higher amount than your opponent you will enjoy better positioning, this is why it is generally advised to always have helicopters on your ships as positioning is very important, especially when fighting opponents with fewer ships then you.
Yep! Should have highlighted that a bit more. I'll pin this.
Great to read that, just for realism (if possible on the slots) I always had an helicopter on every ship, thinking it would be like an awac doing overthehorizon radar, detecting fleets, and if not, playing rescue mission, antisub - even if irl, you would need specialised helicopters in fact, not one do it all)
Great to know it actually helped me for the rare naval battles I had!
Helicopters, so 1 on every ship of your fleet or several on each ship, when possible? (does it stacks)
@@DarkSnake49542 you can safely build them everywhere they can be placed in, beside carriers where you still want to have strong AA
We need a series where somebody makes a map with only two countries that are completely identical at the start. Then you give each of them a bunch of different resources and military assets with 2-3 years to prepare before total war
Gangir MD version?
Navy is an area I've always been weakest with. Thanks for the tutorial! I wonder if the 1.7 update will include naval updates
Thank you for this tutorial my guy. Your previous guides have been super helpful and I really needed some guidance in the naval side of things
Thanks, hope I will be ready for 1.7
Made a supercarrier as Belarus, would recommend.
Minor nation navy games are seriously underrated imo
Thank you for making this
The weird thing is that corvette and frigate are the frontline, but most countries use frigates as destroyers (the main battleship with wide antisub marine and antiair capacity, thus protecting the fleet while having antiship and land missiles - not as much as US destroyer but not every country needs a war every decade hence the frigate being a destroyer for some countries) so what is the destroyer to them since they don't use those? (on your frontline, second line, destroyers are hoi4 battleships while frigates are hoi4 destroyer-cruiser)
I absolutely love playing the naval game in millennium dawn, I'm so very excited for this new system. Naval and Air power are always my biggest focus which is how it is in real life. A strong Navy and powerful air support can completely wreck the enemy. I can't wait to see what they do with the new plane designer too I'd love to redesign our F22's & F-35's! I am curious if it would not be more effective to use a mix of Surface to air missiles and CWIS on super carriers rather than exclusively CWIS?
I tend to do a mix, works fine for me. I do more CIWS but put 1-2 surface to air missiles in too
For the destroyer template at 6:41, what is the gun module that you are using there? I can't seem to find anything similar.
Thanks for this. Maybe I’ll play MD one day when I have a PC that can make it run faster.
I don't know when it was introduced, but there is the possibility of limiting the production of AI countries( plus there is a potato PC option), although not as enjoyable as without it.
Also, try this: disable EU disable NATO, remove micro states. That frees up much of your CPU.
@@Stefan-lb4sf I’ll give it a go. Thanks for the tips. 🙂👍🏼
Hope they change the navy icons for France to french ships but I get if they don't they have to make focus trees so I hope they keep it up
A bit but in-depth is something that mods should do more rather then it being a bunch of minigames to setup the meta and then walking through a territorial expansion storyline
Agreed man, some do and MD is better than most
Could you please do a navel tutorial of hoi4 vanilla because you explained so good that I actually understand it all of the important stuff and you gave good knowledge too 10/10 very nice love yours MD mod video
Glad it helped! I am working on a hoi4 vanilla tutorial series, it will be released after the Victoria 3 one i’m making!
@@Hammurabae Thx and gl
I've been playing this game for years and still have no idea how to invade
Naval Invasion?
i'm curious, usually i start out with some basic, what seem like multi role, carrier jets... will they, when just being used in on the carrier, and not being sent away, perform both fighting and bombing roles? or do i have to assign special naval bombers to the carrier?
Carrier planes are a specific type that need to be produced separately. You can do bombing mission and fighting from the carrier with them but their main use is in naval battles
Is it just me, or do surface ships completely lack the ability to do anything? like they cant patrol, strike force, convoy raid protect etc.
am i doing something wrong or?
Thank you for sharing this. Could you please clarify, how does the anti-ship damage interact with the first line? Since the frigates and corvettes don't have an option to use a nuclear reactor, an issue arises whether a long-range strike force would be able to be effective without the first line. Does the anti-ship damage ignore the first line?
As far as I understand it you could compare it to heavy attack in vanilla, its still able to do a lot but will target bigger ships first, though front line ships will try to screen those shots.
@@Hammurabae As it turns out, the bonuses in the Blue Navy section, and changes to the hit profiles in the variables end up in a configuration where the Anti-Ship Guided Weapon (ASGW) damage (corresponding to Heavy Attack in vanilla) is very much on par with the Light Attack in vanilla (which now became naval artillery damage). The penalty suffered by ASGW is within 20-25% or so. This makes these weapons much more plausible, considering that they ignore armor completely.
@@Hammurabae Given how effective the ASGWs have become and superior capabilities of the ship-based AA compared to vanilla, the role of front line against an advanced fleet is diminishing. Furthermore, the Blue Water Navy provides an extra 30% bonus to screening by capitals only. This totally changes the game in favor of capitals-only approach, with CV cover (which may even be optional versus ships that have a really heavy AA).
Just wondering, If corvettes and frigates are screens and dds are capital ships, are nuclear powered destroyers and cvs worth it since fleet range is limited by its screens?
It seems like fuel consumption is the only upside, at the cost of build time and IC. Seems like subs are the only class worth going nuclear.
Yeah they act as screens. Nuclear destroyers are absolutely worth it. Destroyers got switched recently, I forget what to. Nuclear ships reduce your fuel enough its worth it if your supplies will be limited.
This all cool and will do it when I roleplay more but when I play a minor nation is sub spam still viable in MD? I don't have the energy to sit around for hours for a navy when I already had to sit around to build up my nation while it is fun it gets boring when you can't go to war with any majors after a while.
Ish, naval bombers are much better at picking off small groups of ships in the mod now, so you want at least 15+ subs in a grouping if you do.
@@Hammurabae ✍️
For naval invasion, do you fit amphibious ships with aircraft (like Harrier or f35b, a minicarrier) or only helicopters?
For naval invasions I fill a carrier with multiroles. If I have green air I use them for cas, if not air superiority for green air. Make sure to put your navy on the coast where the invasion is hitting to get shore bombardment bonuses
@@Hammurabae no I meant, amphibious ships along with carriers.
(especially with nsb, amphibious have a bigger use for naval invasion, I believe)
(like me in vanilla, I use carrier with fighter&navalbomb for naval battle ( fighters because you might fight somewhere in the Atlantic or Pacific with no airport in sight for tactical bomber&long-range fighter) and another carrier (just change the icon to make it a new class of carrier) amphibious full of cas, helping my naval invasion - with no fighter since that's the carrier role and in a fight, it could overcrowd the fight giving me a malus) (for MD, there are amphibious ship, lha or something)
Great. Time to build a Croatian Navy to dominate the entire world.
Have they changed the ship designer to just the “Creat Variant “ or am I just too stupid to find it?
If you like a gridy game try hati. They start with a big enough population and a reasonable economic situation.
Just wandering what a country with only frigates and corvettes does?
Does frigates and corvettes both count as only 1 screening ship or does frigates counts as 2 like the base game light cruisers?
It counts as 1 I believe
So in vanilla HOI destroyers are kind of like the "meatshield first line" but in this they are like heavy cruisers on second line?
Exactly
As Germany, i start build up Internet and infrastructure, next step u should build good economy. Third step, become Imperial Germany. Fourth step, in 2005 u should start build your military and build dockyard, 2000-05 u are preparing your economy to the war that's why 2005 u start get military stuff. Fifth step, Build Boats, more boats and more, and your land army. Sixth step, conquer lands or turning them puppet and annex them. And Last, u are now big and strong Nation.🐢
how do u get the ship designer
Got a question, after I deployed by E2 Hawkeyes to the Carriers, they appear as F-18's, is this a glitch or is there something I'm missing?
That sounds like a glitch, I recommend reporting on the md discord. Did just the name change or did the template go too?
do you have any idea how amphibious assault vessel work?
I believe they get large bonuses to naval invasions and river crossings like vanilla. Haven't used them much though
What would you say is a good fleet size? Would three carriers, roughly 6 cruisers/destroyers and 36 screen ships be a good setup?
Destroyers are screens so 6 heavy cruisers and 3 carriers with 36 screens would be great. Maybe a few subs to compliment as well for a smaller navy. Tbh with a fleet that size I would have 1 carriers, and put the production cost of the other two into cruisers
@@Hammurabae Thanks!
(7:43) I wonder, whether a design with VLS Surface-to-Air Missiles would be even better than the CIWS based one presented here?
CIWS gives more bonuses stats wise then just AA, you could give it a test but I find it to be better
@@Hammurabae I think, RAM have the same HP bonuses, and higher AA attack, at the same surface visibility level. This makes RAM a better option to CIWS. What do you think about this observation? Am I missing something?
So I shouldn’t put anti submarine modules/ships in my fleet, because they are too hard to kill?
Depends if you want to sink the cost and how youre playing the game. You will kill them, it will just be really inefficient and slow
For my second line, instead of battleships can I have destroyers and cruisers?
Yes, cost wise they are more efficient. I think I eft it out but destroyers go in the second line and are generally the best choice meta wise. You can pack them full of anti ship attack and they will be incredibly effective
@@Hammurabae how do I organize my fleets so that the 1st line is frigates and corvettes, the 2nd cruisers and destroyers and the last aircraft carriers + submarines under the water
Does anyone how what is the point of Helicopter Operators I still don’t really know what their for?
Cheaper carriers
this mod turned out great! Why was naval invasion capability is so reduced? I can invade with only 10 units for half the game... why this reduction? Where can i get more capability??
Given the logistical difficulty of exercising a modern naval landing. Base hoi4 dramatically oversimplifies the difficulty of it to a comedic level. Modern naval invasions require insane amounts of logistics, it could easily be argued how much they reduce is too little.
Thank you for this I all whyis ignore my navel battle
On my current game as Iran I can't seem to modify the ships at all though I always could in previous versions fo the game, anyone got any ideas? It only has rename on the ship designs and nothing else.
It was a mod conflict a sub mod for millenium dawn.
For some reason my game is using one drive so my game is downloading things after every click I make. Any way I can stop this
Copy the files out of your one drive?
ah this is new update
What mod for the naval customisation it’s not like that for my millennium dawn
Do you have all the dlc? You need man the guns for that
@@Hammurabae oh I don’t have that
Uh which version is this? Is this 1.7 already? Because for some reason I still have heavy attack in my game and destroyers are screens.
Ah yeah it is, okay nevermind
Update drops Saturday, if I'm not mistaken.
@@Stefan-lb4sf Yep, saw that on the discord. Hyped as hell
Why can't Carrier Fighters conduct Air Superiority or Air Interdiction missions?
You should be able to
Did not see anyone ask it, but why is the refit cost so high when changing the engine? Even when upgrading the engine of the same line gives you 88 years of refit.
Engine refitting is incredibly expensive, they are one of the biggests costs on a ship. Generally for refitting you only want to upgrade fire control, radar, an maybe a weapon module or two. Its worth just making a new ship rather than refitting engines
@@Hammurabae Oh ok, also found out that you can not refit the 3 BB at all because of this so RIP my missile BBs.
Hey my game just starts with no Naval production. Is that a thing that happens in this game? Should I just not even bother with the starting production and produce my own? It seems daunting enough without having to select which of my 200 templates that I should produce lol. Anyone know how to fix this issue?
You mean there is not vessels being produced? You can use the default templates navally and just produce those
@@Hammurabae Yup it starts with 0 dockyards being used, and only a few mils being used on old humvees and other random equipment, but no guns, support equipment in production.
are you using submod?
Nope! Just the update
@@Hammurabae looking pretty good!
My launcher is crashing while launching, how to fix it?
Uninstall the launcher
How do you open ship designer?
Prosuction menu, ship icon top right. You need to have man the guns dlc to use though.
@@Hammurabae Prosuction. Heh.
I don't have that DLC, which explains it.
This is off topic… is there a way to improve the performance of the mod? Either in settings or a sub mod that improves or gets rid of Africa or something it is kinda unplayable
It really comes down to your computer specs sadly. THe 1.7 update should improve performance a little. The only thing I can recommend is opening up task manager, going to details, right clicking hoi4.exe, and setting priority to realtime. That may help a little.
idk what im doing wrong i only can design battle ships
Do you have the man the guns dlc?
how i launch from submarines
They need to be on a coastline you own and have the module that allows launches
Anything not a submarine is a target...
Submarines are also targets
@Hammurabae Sure but they're not exclusively targets like surface vessels 😄