Iowa clutch punt return TD vs Minnesota gets overturned due to invalid fair catch signal
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- During the college fotball game between Iowa and Minnesota, Iowa thought they had taken the lead with under two minutes after a Cooper DeJean punt return touchdown. However, after a lengthy review, the play was overturned as DeJean slightly waved his arm before catching the ball. Iowa then threw an interception and lost by a score of 12-10.
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Good or bad call?
He did call fair catch
can everyone clam down in my opinion he called fair catch
worst call i’ve ever seen in my life
@@sportsparadise. yahp
Good call.
Vegas influenced call
Obvious to anyone who knows any better
Iowa was robbed.
The fact that this wasn't called on the field, but was reviewable is what confuses me. When is that ever the case. They miss calls all the time that aren't reviewable.
Every TD is automatically reviewed that's why the refs were able to go back the penalty. Either way it honestly could have gone either for both teams considering the wave was kinda iffy as well as the reactions of Minnesota if he did wave fair catch is kinda suspicious.
I'm accustomed to this sort of thing happening in a Monday night game between Minnesota and Green Bay, but the ruling going the other way. @@jeremiahhatfield6324
@@jeremiahhatfield6324td are reviewed but penalties arent
Yeah I feel the same way. If the ref believes he was signalling a fair catch he should've whistled. Think it should've been a touchdown in all honesty
@@jeremiahhatfield6324 they are reviewing to see of the person actually scored or if they fumbled before the goal line, knee went down before breaking the plane, or didn't complete the catch. They do not go back and analyze the play to call a foul (non personal) that wasn't called on the field.
Such an elite defense in Iowa and it's being wasted by one of the worst offenses in the country.
I feel like rhatçs what Iowa's been since I started paying attention in 1990. Always a good defensive front and often good offensive lines but never any good skill position offensive players. Who have they had? Tim Dwight is the only skilled guy I remember.
Their D is really good…..elite?
It could be worse. They could be Minnesota. Last Rose Bowl 1962.
You guys are still 6-2, correct? That is a good record.
@@herbb8547that record doesn’t tell the whole story, against good teams we look like shit.
Imagine how elite Iowa could be if they had a coach that cared about offense.
yes, thank you!
The same could be said about Minnesota lol
Seems like Anti- Lincoln Riley disease. One can’t work on defense, one can’t do offense…
Yea Iowa should just fire their head coach, idk why they didn't cause he's getting them no where
They wouldn’t get the recruits they get if they tried to play spread. They recruit great OL TEs and defenders. GL trying to compete with Michigan and Ohio st if u try to become a high powered offense. This is what the kids signed to Iowa for.
Bad call or not the return itself was incredible, he had 8 Minnesota players right by him on the sideline and he just said nope and blew past them.
Because they hesitated and weren't sure if to play the ball until he started running
@@fitzcharles33 he spun right out of a tackle on the sideline, should have seemed pretty obvious to the other 7 people nearby.
@@fitzcharles33 they hesitated because it didn't look like it was gonna be returned as he was pointing and waving people teammates away, not a single player or coach on the Gophers were thinking he called fair catch, they were hopeful he stepped out. But officials found another way to F over Iowa.
@@fitzcharles33did they hear a whistle? No? Then play until you hear a whistle!
@@fitzcharles33 Nope way wrong kiddo, better luck next time.
As a left handed person this feels like a personal attack
As a lefty myself,I agree. 😢lol
I’m not left handed but I hear U
LOL IOWA IS DOO DOO HAHAHAHAHA
Us lefties have always been looked upon as pariahs.
It is an attack, you are pariahs and should be marginalized. Rah rah rah for sky u ma rah rah rah rah, rah for the U of M! Baha Minnesota goes down
As an oscillating fan, that blows
nice!
@@th7079 I'm glad a few folks appreciate my dumb sense of humor lol
dont oscillate a FC and then you're free to return it
This is my new slogan I will be using... you will recieve no credit
After being ranked 130th out of 130 teams on offense, they now are 135th.
Still moon walking backwards just like their last possession. Go Gophers
That young man did his very best. They did not lose that game because of him. They lost because their offense sucks. Iowa has not had an offense for several years.
At this point, run a Navy style offense or get creative. Try something out of the box
They lost because of one of the worst calls in college football in a long time. That player made an amazing play for his team and got robbed.
@@skippadaflippa6497he clearly waved
Several years or several decades?
They recruiting sucks
Iowa: yay we scored points
NCAAF: that's illegal.
To be fair, Iowa fans don’t even know what offense is
@@jdtheguitartist You mean break time between defense and special teams?
NCAAF: we made the right call
Iowa: that's unfair.
@@noeticjustice1535 punter leads country in yards lol
@@heyheyhey33351 They made the right call according to what they want, not according to the rulebook.
The most Iowa game that ever Iowa'd
The Minnesota radio play-by-play announcer said, "The Gophers have outIowa'd Iowa."
If I was an Iowa fan I would be pissed that the offense can never score more than 10 points in a game.
An invalid fair catch signal is defined as “any waving signal” by a member of the receiving team that does not meet the requirements of a valid fair catch signal. To make a valid fair catch signal, a player must wave his arm over his head.
Which he didn't wave above his head, therefore no fair catch, so he's allowed to run
@@poisonpotato1Still an invalid waving signal
@@poisonpotato1 Haha...no. He made a waving motion with his arm and hand which did not meet the requirements of being a fair catch. Therefore it was an invalid fair catch signal. The only way a punt returner can legally run with the ball is to make NO waving signal, valid or invalid. Doing what he did at one time resulted in a 15 yard penalty on the receiving team.
@@timmick6911in that case, you cannot swing your arms as you run to catch a punt. Use some logic
@@timmick6911 so by that definition, a player running and waving his arms, not above his head but in the act of running (which everyone does that I’ve ever seen) is now an invalid waving signal? Your logic is illogical.
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in the land of the crazy drivers and pet alligators
Despite the call, Iowa needed 20 yards to get into field goal range and failed 🤷♂️
iowas offense is worse than my high school JV football team
Despite Iowa giving up three turnovers and getting -127 yards, Minnesota needed this ridiculous call to win
@@aaronrider4051 stay triggered
@@reviseandrise nice thoughtful response, hive brained swamp dweller
@@aaronrider4051It was the correct call. The punt returner faked a fair catch. It is called an invalid fair catch. He was waving his left hand all over. That is why the Gophers didn't flatten him when he caught the ball. They thought he had made a fair catch. The rule states it is treated as a fair catch. At one time, an invalid fair catch included a penalty for 15 yards as well.
Fun fact: this is the only time in cfb or nfl history that an invalid fair catch signal has been called on replay review. This also one of only a few times it has been called on a bouncing ball (which can't be fair caught). It is now the rarest penalty call in the history of football.
I am a Wisconsin fan, a few years back we had a game-winning kick return TD called back for the same reason - I believe vs Northwestern. Our guy waved in a downward motion to tell his team to stay away and they called it an invalid signal after his TD. I know it stings because those are huge plays.
It was a game changer that's for sure.
I remember that a little bit, I think it was against either Northwestern or Michigan. Did not hear the end of it after church the following day.
@warc8us It wouldn't sting if it didn't change the outcome of the game. That was so unbelievable. I have to stop thinking about it because it just spins me into an entirely new level of pissed off. To everyone who said it was the correct call, that wasn't even what was being reviewed, and if it was a rule, why did it take them close to 15 minutes to make their ruling? I know it won't bother me forever, it's just that our offense has no offense. Our defense and special teams are the ones who are scoring. It is so frustrating. I've never known Iowa to be so pathetic when it came to the QB except for Ricky Stanzi. He sucked, but he wasn't even this bad.
So where's the whistle.. since when do we wait for a clutch play to actually work and we pull a bs technicality after the TD.. if it's a dead play how come not a songle official blee his whistle.. its bs all of it and im a husker fan
@@RawUncutFishing It's been 8 days now, and I finally quit letting it ruin my day on Friday. I don't think I've ever been that pissed off for that long before that happened. I've had to read so many comments about it being "the correct call" that I was ready to punch holes in a wall, but I finally let it go. The fact that not only were there no whistles, no flags, no screaming fits by Fleck or the rest of his team, just feeling dejected as they saw their win going down the drain after Coop made it into the end zone, like us, Minnesota was anxious to hear what the review was, and when they made it, PJ got totally pissed off over the Iowa fans throwing crap onto the field that I don't think he realized what a gift he had been given. At least we still had possession of the ball, and only needed 20 yards to make a field goal. I can't remember if it was the first or second play, but we threw an interception, and at that point, it was Minnesota's game to lose. They got to enjoy a feeling that hadn't happened since 1999, so there were some people who were thrilled with the outcome that day, and I'm happy for them. If our offense sucks this bad next year, I pray we find somebody who can build our offense to what it once was. Brian Ferentz was tasked with rebuilding our offense or he would be penalized where it hit him hardest, and he hasn't risen to the occasion yet this year.
Maybe if Iowa could score more than 2 points each game this wouldn’t be an issue
yeah maybe if we put cooper dejean at qb we would. he passed for 4000 yds in hs
Maybe if you didn't have piss jugs and extension cords everywhere Ray this wouldn't have happened !
Especially after Iowa showed so much promise in their bowl game last year when their offense actually scored a touchdown.
@@tfriesen7872 God damn Seagulls Rick!
my son plays college football and is on the punt team. he confirmed that an emphasis was made this year for absolutely no arm/hand movement by the return man. he can point all he wants but once he uses motion, it is an infraction. so, blame the coaching staff and the player.
If you don't throw a flag or blow a whistle there was no infraction
@@user-ii7do6gy4e The flag not being thrown is not some sort of get out of jail free loophole. The entire reason they started using the replay review and challenge system is because sometimes refs miss things or see something wrong and throw the flag by mistake.
While technically a correct call, I have never seen it called before and I have watched the games since the early 70's!
It's a rare call for sure and most teams coach their special teams to avoid it anyway. Interestingly enough there was a similar situation in the Tennessee game this week, although not as crucial as this call.
@@fitzcharles33I feel like you’re speaking from your anus.
Technically correct is all we need. No argument against the call.
@@cajtri87Right? "Technically correct" should be the only way an officiating crew operates.
I played football through HS and 1 year in D1. This is coached on special teams all the time. Refs even yell out “fair catch” when a receiver does it so that players that may not be totally watching don’t hit the player.
Had a Minnesota player pancaked him to the ground, Iowa fans would be screaming that it was obviously a fair catch motion even if he did it improperly.
A similar call was made against Tennessee in the Bama game. One punt returner waved his hand similar to this, but the returner to his left actually returned the punt. Officials brought the ball back to the 4 yard line instead of starting at the 34. It was reviewed as well.
turns out the refs did make "some" calls in that game.... even 1 call against Bama for 5 yards
Happened on a kickoff from Florida to South Carolina. Instead of going to the 25 it was where the other player caught the ball.
Was a flag thrown or whistle blown? That is the question
NO ONE on the FIELD thought that was a fair catch!!!
Because it has never been called an "invalid" fair catch when a punt returner is waving off his team
LOL IOWA IS DOO DOO HAHAHAHAHA
@@triangularplanet2424 it’s because you usually don’t wave players away with your arms above your shoulder height
@@Foochobot
Except the officials, the defenders could not take a chance until the whistle blew. You really know very little about such things.
Punt returners wave off their players like this every week and it is NEVER called. This is unbelievable.
LOL IOWA IS DOO DOO HAHAHAHAHA
You’re not wrong my guy I mean you literally see the same thing every single week like the exact same arm waving and it’s never called back that’s what I found funny as shit
No, it is not "unbelievable" at all, if you have a clue about the rule.
@@tahonta3898 GEEZ the IGNORANCE. Help me Lord.
How many times when a Returner waves off their Teammates do they then GO AFTER THE ball THEMSELVES and return it?
Almost never.
But every time they DO THAT and then RETURN IT it is CALLED
But it is NOT a PENALTY to do that JUST a DEADBALL like the Rules Epert EXPLAINS in this this VIDEO and LIVE during the Game
Lol u guys r suckin Minnesota off so hard
Does anyone know when this rule was added? UNT did the exact same thing in 2018 vs Arkansas and this was not called
What’s funny is in the North Carolina vs Virginia game the UNC returner did something similar and nothing happened in that game.
The ref knowing this is his chance to win a bet 😂😂
The thing that bugs me is if they reversed the call shouldn't there be a fair catch interference on Minnesota?
how about a whistle during the play???? Absolutely no one made this a fair catch... Until it was a TD.....
yeah
Nobody thought about fair catch cuz it wasn't he yells Peter Peter waving his teammates off, still allowed to return the ball... oh but wait the Iowa Hawkeyes gotta fuqkin Touchdown! We needa review this... And it was about whether he steps out clearly doesn't so they say can we call that a fair catch and bring this back that way. Yes. Yes we can. Complete BS.
No. He didn’t call fair catch.
Exactly. Either it was a fair catch and there should be a penalty or it was a TD. Anyway you slice it… BS.
The more important question why wasn’t Iowa given a 15 after fans threw beer at the Minnesota players
that's a good question...CLASSLESS...but it is IOWA...ha ha
Are iowa people really that thick they would support the criminal trump? Are Iowa people really that soft in the head.
@jmg999.. so they called a dead ball situation on the field during the play… or you can do that after fact by watching video??
Iowa didn't deserve to lose like that, but they didn't deserve to win either. Fire Brain and or Kirk.
yep!
Are iowa people really that thick they would support the criminal trump? Are Iowa people really that soft in the head.
As a college football fan, this was crazy
As a human person, I agree
As an HVAC fan, open air stadiums are a threat to my livelihood.
I know people are gonna be mad at me, but I have to say something. When you say "As a [noun]," you are applying that prepositional phrase to whatever noun follows the comma. So you are saying that "this" (meaning the situation in the video) was a college football fan, not that you were. You could say, "As a college football fan, I found this crazy." The first reply to this comment did it correctly, saying that he or she agrees as a human person. In the second reply, you are saying that open air stadiums are an HVAC fan.
Nerd out. 🤓
@@adamhamel9784 wtf are you on abt mate 💀
@@duck4738 Grammar
*THERE WAS NO PENALTY FOR A DEAD BALL CATCH.*
Usually Punt returners do *"instinctly"* wave for a fair catch near the sidelines to avoid getting creamed. The Gopher players was surrounding him for a possible fumble. Not a run back.
Besides, it doesn't help the instant replay started when the punt returner caught the ball. Not from the middle of the field to the ball. It's also obvious the two guys in the booth was clueless. They wondered if he stepped out of bounds. Not if the retuner signal for a faur catch. Which he did. Making the play dead when he caught the ball.
This is such a Nebraska way to lose a game. I can't believe Iowa came up with it first.
I'm pretty sure this happened to nebraska once a few years ago actually. It took away a good return but it wasnt a touchdown. Never doubt Nebraska's ability to lose in stupid ways.
Wow I was literally about to comment this so well done lol
The rule was made cause guys used to "feint" fair catch signals to get free pick ups and returns and so it was deemed unfair and made a fule that motioning anything that can be assumed a fair catch kills the ball
I doubt that. I think the rule was made to prevent deception on caught kicks, because those are the ones where guys aren't allowed to hit you. You cannot fair catch a football that has bounced. What would the strategy be in faking a fair catch and then letting it bounce so that guys can tackle you as soon as you touch it? Sounds like a recipe for turnovers, not extra tds.
Doesn't really matter. This call didn't prevent Iowa from winning. They still had a minute and 47 seconds to push the ball 30 yards. They turned the ball over. The interception caused by their pathetic offense did them in.
@jmg999.. if they thought it was illegal hand signal why was no flag thrown for that and how can they go back in time to throw it for that? Please educate me.
An amazing play, the best of the year! A call by the official was so unexpected under the circumstances. Sad for Cooper!
That's a worse way to lose a game than blowing a 35-7 lead against Baylor imo. The pain of losing because of a hand signal. Oof!
They lost because their offense couldn't score the ball.
Nah being at a game where a 4 td lead getting blown is like being slowly torn apart. This is like quickly taking a band aid off.
they didnt lose because of a hand signal. there are over 100 plays in a football game. no game is ever lost because of one play
if iowa could simply score more than 1 offensive touchdown per game, this wouldn’t have been an issue
Iowa got something like 12 yards of offense in the second half. They couldn't move the ball at all. The MN defense completely dominated them.
Too be fair Minnesota won scoring no offensive touchdowns. Iowa just needed to move the ball to field goal ranges more drives.
@@smalls3187 Iowa did not score a single point in the second half. That is why they lost.
@@herbb8547 you seem to be arguing me for no reason. I clearly stated Iowa just needed to get into field goal range. 1 field is all they needed. The original comment is maybe if Iowa could score more than 1 touchdown. They didn’t even need to score a touchdown.
No where in my response am I not blaming Iowa incompetence of an offense in why they lost.
@smalls3187 OK. Point accepted. I expected Iowa to be much better with that record. How did they win all those games anyway? Seriously, MN was 3-3 coming in for a reason.
The gross result as the rule is written, any waving of the arms results in a fair catch.
The kid was doing allot of arm waving.
No flag or whistle so you can't review it just like a p.i.
Fire Brian Ferentz like YESTERDAY already and stop the bleeding. Iowa has given up exactly 1 rushing TD in 8 games and this is the reward the defense gets.
Both Kirk and Brian need to go
correct, its time@@daniellewis5474
Or maybe get an o line that can block, a qb who can throw who isn't injured, and some wrs (not tes) who can catch consistently. I've been on the fire Brian train before but the last 4 games have made me change my opinion. I don't think it matters what Brian calls when all stages of the offense fail.
@@botboi4334 Uh, that's on him. It's HIS job and responsibility. That's what an OC does.
@@wymple09 Right cause an OC is supposed to have a playbook for a backup qb who can't throw and gets jittery, an o line that can't block, your top 2 recievers (who are tight ends) being out for the year, and wrs who can't seem to catch consistently.
Hawks lose a game, but this play will forever be in the annals of Iowa Football History.
They better start calling that on all games because I’ve seen other players do it. Refs are always trying to change outcome of games when they want.
All you need to know is that the ref who made the call is from Nebraska. Bias.
As soon as i saw this happen, i was like "yup, PSC's gonna have this up in minutes!" 😅
He did a circle motion to his side. I just thought it's only a fair catch if it's a wave over the head, like how it's not a dead-ball play if you're just putting your hand up quickly to shield the sun. Looks like that shouldve been the case as well since he wasn't waving over his head and I didn't hear him yelling a signal to run away.
He's doing what PRs do all the time yelling Peter and waving people off and pointing to where it's gonna land around, and he still has every right to return it. The officials knowingly made that call to F over the Hawkeyes.
They called invalid fair catch. Which is making a signal like that below your head. Not a bad call
If you watch his left Arm you can clearly see him make a small circle showing a fair catch signal.
it doesn't technically have to be over the head. If you make your arms move around in a circle even without it being over the head it can still be called as the same signal. This happens a lot in the NFL.
@@coryv5679 "It can" meaning there's the possibility of it not? Also, the rules between this and the NFL can be different. Is it?
By the letter of the rule, it was the correct call.
If it’s a bad call, why was he moving his left arm like that?
Pointing and waiving people off isn't calling for a fair catch. And if it was, the gophers should've been called for a penalty for hitting a guy that called for a fair catch. Worst call of the year. Once again, refs take the drama out of sports. Trash call
That was not "taking the drama out of sports" that was its own drama that was unnecessary
@@sleepymonkey6752 that......took the drama out of sports. Yup. Exactly.
@@meatmeat5344
You might want to look up a definition of drama
@@sleepymonkey6752 you are WAY missing the point.
They didn’t call a fair catch they called “invalid fair catch” which by rule was the right call
I'm not an Iowa fan, and I was pissed.
Pissed about what? The returner making an invalid fair catch signal in a pivotal moment in the game?
Invalid inshmalid. Dude was pointing people off. It's a crock that ref would influence the outcome of a game that way. The same way the crew in Houston screwed them against Texas right after. No one else on the field, even the gunners for Minn saw a fair catch as they all went for him. They can call it what they want. What I can say is if they are gonna call horse manure calls like that, there needs to be a definitive signal for a fair catch. As in the hand needs to be head level or above.
@@cajunsmurf4354 he was waving his arm, that is such a basic rule that every returner knows!
@packfan6151 "waving" i never have seen someone "wave" with 1 finger pointed out. If it was soooo obvious how come no ref called the ball dead at the time? Again you can feel the way you want....just like me. I have a very short fuse when it comes to refs/umps deciding a game with such a call from personal experiences starting 30 years ago. So in my eyes the refs are always the screw ups
@@cajunsmurf4354
"...even the gunners for Minn saw a fair catch as they all went for him."
Possibly. But what is the punt returner supposed to NOT do after signaling a fair catch? And what did the Iowa punt returner do?
"there needs to be a definitive signal for a fair catch. As in the hand needs to be head level or above."
There is...and it's pretty much what you said. That why any waving motion not above the head is called an "invalid fair catch signal".
This really isn't that hard.
Not sure what all the fuss is about. It seemed rather obvious that the returner tried to deceive the opposing team by windmilling his arm. Was a good call in my book..
That happened in the Tennessee Bama game returning the ball to the spot due to indicated fair catch. There needs to be a rule change to where the arm needs to come above shoulder level to indicate that.
It's something that should be watched for closely and enforced immediately in order to protect the catcher.
They made it clear to every team before the season that "any waving signal by the return man" would end exactly like this.
With that mentality you might as well put the Halo rule back in. The returner can’t be touched until he receives the ball.
The purpose of the invalid signal is to prevent injury and deception.
You can’t flop around acting like your calling defenders off and be able to go to the end zone
Use verbal signals to tell your team to back off not flare your arms.
Fire your offensive coordinator and don’t rely on surprise punt returns to beat Minnesota. Period.
Exactly!
You cant beat refs that get paid off. That was proven in that the minnesota players tried to tackle the runner.
Brian needs to go but it's not really a surprise punt return when he averages almost 1 specific teams of defensive score a game.
@@tedphillips7727 Paid off lol? What crack are you smoking? Iowa scored 10 fucking points all game. Score 20-30 and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Kirk ferentz should have been fired many many years ago, he is a terrible failure as a coach!
Watching the replay a few times, it does appear that the MN players are backing off. Then as soon as the KR makes a move, they recover and try to make the tackle.
But they weren't flying toward the ball as the kicking team usually does. Could be wrong, but it does seem the players were thinking it was a fair catch, in the beginning.
It's their fault they thought the movement of his arm just from running was a "fair catch signal"
@@BrugerQing Maybe so. But that’s the first thing they’d be telling the refs-“he was signaling a fair catch”. The announcers were a little perplexed at why the play was being reviewed at all; he was never close to being out of bounds and the line judge was right there. But if they were looking to see if he was making movements with his hands that would have slowed down the cover team, it makes more sense.
Iv"e been an official in college and NFL, would have never called this a fair catch. No way!
Something like this happened in the tennessee game yesterday. The ncaa must have told the reffs to start calling these signals. I hadn't seen this called ever and twice in one day.
Iowa Fan, yea the call sucks, but the most painful thing to watch was the offense all game..................WTF, how can you be that bad????
The ending said it all
The call was correct, yet another coaching failure by Iowa. Kirk ferentz should have been fired many many years ago, he is such a failure as a coach!
@@TurdFerguson149He's a good defensive coach, the problem is Iowa's terrible OC, who happens to be Kirk's son. I think Iowa could jump 10 spots in the rankings with a competent/mediocre OC.
Yeah their biggest problem wasn't a controversial, but correct call, it was getting 20 yards lol.
@@fitzcharles33 he’s had so much talent on that team so many times but he always blows it!
2 yards of offense in the 2nd half. LOL. Should be criminal, especially against the mid loafers.
NCAA rule: Invalid Signals-ARTICLE 3 V: Team A's scrimmage kick is rolling beyond the neutral zone when B17 alerts his teammates to stay away from the ball by a "get away" signal.
RULING: Invalid signal. The ball is dead by rule when either team recovers.
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR RULEBOOK !!! EVERYBODY KNOWS HE DIDN'T SIGNAL A FAIR CATCH !!! EVEN THE MINNESOTA PLAYERS KNEW HE DIDN'T SIGNAL A FAIR CATCH !!! WE KNOW BECAUSE WE IOWA FANS ARE MIND READERS !!! - Iowa fans.
@@jky3889 You’re right, he didn’t signal a fair catch at all. He told everyone to get away from the ball, which makes it a dead ball after contact.
As an unbiased fan, I Roll Tide, but I have to say I thought he waved it off too. Good call IMHO
I would never say this normally but they actually should have taken to the field and just let the game end there
I'm digging them Yellow jerseys
From the NCAA rulebook:
*Valid Signal*
ARTICLE 2.
A valid signal is a signal given by a player of Team B who has obviously signaled his intention by extending one hand only clearly above his head and waving that hand from side to side of his body more than once.
*Invalid Signal*
ARTICLE 3.
An invalid signal is _any waving signal_ by a player of Team B:
That does not meet the requirements of Article 2 (above);
This was indeed a Stelling RULE situation !
Therefore, 2 gophers and a steak for the southmost kitchen !!
What a good call
😉
After seeing the replay and listening to the explanation I can see what they where referring to. Iowa still had a chance to pull out the win. Their just couldn't make the plays.
Only if the referee calls it initially. You can't go back and officiate a play like that after the initial play is over with. Otherwise stop after every play, and go back and look for infractions after every single play, I'm sure there's missed calls in almost all plays. The issue everyone has is that it wasn't what the review was initially supposed to look at. Seems that whoever initiated the review was expecting to find that he stepped out on the return, and when that didn't happen, they went to the hands.
They were reviewing to see if he stepped out. Under replay rules this part is also reviewable.
They didn’t stop the game and say let’s find something wrong here.
@@thomaspaquette9991 I'm not saying either way, but really it's obvious that he was not signaling a fair catch or even had reason to do so. At the time of the left hand waving he is 15 yards from the ball. And the thing is, everytime since about 4 games ago, Dejean has done the same hand gesture since a hawkeye player got hit in the back by a ball during a punt. There was no attempt to raise his hand above his head and to make that call only after he had scored the go ahead touchdown is sus. There was refs watching the play live. The call was made by someone who wasn't even on the field.
Didn't see fair catch signal so why was it called back?
Vegas. People who bet iowa when they punted at 2 mins stood to make a lot of money. Couldn't let that happen
Invalid fair catch. Good call by rule
@@meatmeat5344it was actually the right call
@@Bestsportseditz twice you've said this. Wrong both times. He was waiving people off. Happens all the time. And even if you want to say it was, it would still be a penalty on Minnesota for making contact on a fair catch. On top of that, it was never blown dead. They only called it after seeing it on replay.
@@meatmeat5344 if you make a signal under your helmet it’s a invalid fsir catch signal.
I can’t imagine the amount of Hawkeye vodka consumed after that lol.
The thing that bothers me about this is that nobody knew the rule. The returner clearly didn't know the rule. The Minnesota players didn't know the rule, they went for the tackle. But worst of all, the referees didn't know the rule. They didn't blow the whistle until much later, and even then they said they were looking to see if he went out of bounds. Even ESPN, when describing it later, misstated the rule.
The lack of blowing the whistle is the problem here. It shows the official clearly did not think the returner was signaling for a fair catch. Should not be reevaluated in the video review. Obviously it’s not a penalty, but it would be a dead ball situation that was not called on the field.
That team better get out of town fast lol
The Goofers or the officiating crew?
@@kvngnboth
Let's see. Stay in I C or all night ragers in Mpls? The Gophers didn't even change before they left the stadium
The story should be that Iowa almost won a game with a -3 turnover margin and 127 total yards 😂 screw the bad call
Not a bad call
@@Bestsportseditzit was a bad call Minnesota fan
It was an illegal call no matter how your bias cuts it. That was neither a fair catch nor an illegal fair catch. Don't allow your eyes to deceive you, because the rule book clearly doesn't have your back
The Big 10 west QBs all are below mid....No NFL QB talent in that division lol
@@PistolP33 You are right. But it was an invalid fair catch signal.
Kicks
ARTICLE 4. Reviewable plays involving kicks include:
a. Touching of a kick.
b. Player beyond the neutral zone when kicking the ball.
c. Kicking team player advancing a ball after a potential muffed kick/fumble
by the receiving team.
d. Scrimmage kick crossing the neutral zone.
e. Blocking by players of the kicking team before they are eligible to touch
the ball on an on-side kick.
f. A player touching or recovering a kick or loose ball who is or has been out
of bounds during the kick
*g. Receiving team advancing after a fair catch signal.*
It was an illegal fair catch signal. Same effect as a legal signal.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if this was indeed an invalid fair catch signal, shouldn't a flag have been thrown at the moment of the infraction? And during the process of a touchdown review, refs are not examining the play for possible penalties? Aren't they supposed to be confirming the TD was valid (i,e., not stepping out of bounds, control of the ball as player makes a reception or crosses the goal line), and nothing else?
It’s not a penalty. The ball is just returned to the dead ball spot.
Are iowa people really that thick they would support the criminal trump? Are Iowa people really that soft in the head.
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Regardless of the fair catch call, the defensive players went after him full steam and missed. If the defensive players started walking away from the runner, I would say, they interpreted it as a fair catch signal, but the didn't, they were going after him. Hell of a run.
idc if this didnt count still a hell of a return by dejean, i dont wanna see nobody blaming him hes the front and back to his terrible team
I agree. One helluva an athletic display. I believe he had it in mind that this needed to be a 6 pt punt return and he was signaling for his teammates to stay upfield to block for him as he took it to the house No iota of blame on him, that would be ridiculous. He wasnt even trying to cheat or get away with some type of fake fair catch as someone stated earlier. An unfortunate technicality during his execution. Simple as that. This guys gonna be fun to watch on Sundays 4:38
Wow! Heard some crazy penalties this year.
That is the first time I have ever seen that call....
A win is a win is a good excuse for Iowa having no offense but when they lose, it doesn't sound so profound, does it?
Are iowa people really that thick they would support the criminal trump? Are Iowa people really that soft in the head. Just trolling. You need to be trolled.
He was yelling and pointing at where the ball was rolling, he never waved his hands above his head like a typical fair catch, also the Minnesota team knew he did not call a fair catch because they immediately tried to tackle him.
That's why they said it was an invalid fair catch not he called fair catch I assume.
0:09-0:11 He is waving his hands mimicing a fair catch signal. It is technically not above his head but still looks just like a fair catch wave making it an "invalid fair catch signal." In the case of an invalid fair catch signal, the offense cannot advance the ball.
Doesn't have to wave it over his head. Any waving motion triggers a dead spot
@@15jtbballhe always did that though, the refs should’ve called it the plays before
Speaking of firing and benching the Gophers might want to get rid of their whole punting team. How do five guys barely lay a hand on the kid on a two square yard patch of field six or seven inches from the sideline which is actually defender no. six. Then after Hestering his way out of there goes untouched the rest of the way with only one gopher in camera view. The win saved their scholarships
How many NFL games have had something like this happen? Just wondering.
ROW THE BOAT. SKI U MAH! GO GOPHERS!
As an unbiased person by rule its a fair catch call, he made a motion with his arm in a circular motion what you should do is yell, the pointing is fine. It is considered muffed since it was a fair catch and his recovery is from the spot he got the ball. Not a hitting the returner cause there was no whistle so you cant just throw that in there.
It’s not considered a fair catch. It’s considered an invalid fair catch.
Has to be over his head, his hand was not over his head
Also the rule specifically says you can’t perform a “waving motion” and he isn’t waving. He is making a circle which is coached specifically to avoid it being confused for a fair catch.
If the rule didn’t have nuance, then running would also be considered waving your hands below your waist.
That would make sense if the defenders stopped pursuing him. The reason the rule is there is to that you cant signal for a fair catch, then catch it and run anyways while the defense has stopped trying to get you.
You can clearly see in the video that not a single defender stopped trying to tackle him. If they thought he'd signaled for a fair catch, why would they try to tackle him as soon as he caught the ball? If that was the case, they should get penalized for a personal foul.
@@kieranwilson4769 Look at his left hand, there absolutely was a waving motion.
Same thing happened in the UT vs Bama game.
Are iowa people really that thick they would support the criminal trump? Are Iowa people really that soft in the head.
Iowa amassed only 2 total offensive yards the 2nd half
But sadly, MississippiState-vs-Arkansas received the B10 Score Award for the week. Iowa-Minnesota got robbed.
I have no dog on this fight. I woke up this morning on the east coast and turned on the TV. First replay I see is this punt return. Not for one second did I think a fair catch was being signaled. Just another example of so called officials over officiating to stroke their personnel egos.
I don't give a shit about either team cause I'm a Florida fan, but that call is horrid. If this was somehow legit, there would need to be a penalty for the entire Minnesota team disrupting a fair catch
Well no one gives a sh!+ what your opinion is...because, well you're a Florida fan.
Exactly. Nothing about this makes sense
It wasn't a fair catch though. It was an invalid fair catch signal. The point is that if the returner is waving their arm, it can impact how the kicking team plays because they may slow down and assume the play will be over. It's a penalty, not a fair catch.
@@violetly_yeah no one with eyes would say it impacted the play.
That's 100% a judgement call and their judgement was trash.
Literally no one would have complained if they never even looked at the play for that call.
No it would not, because the ball is dead as soon as it is controlled, and running after the fair catch, even a valid one, removes the protections.
They were calling it , an , invalid affair catch signal.
Don't cheat on your wife man. Bad Ju Ju
Unfortunate timng. He was waving to the kids across the street.
@pschighlights "slightly" waved his arm..?? He CLEARLY waved it off SEVERAL times.. I don't like the way this played out but I understand the ruling... fact is Iowa had 1:30 to move the ball 20ish yards for a walk off field goal and failed... period...
As an Iowa fan since the day I graduated from their university in 42, as well 97, we shouldn’t have even let Minnesota come close to beating us!
I also graduated there in 42, as well 98. I don't remember you! Must be because I'm 100 yrs old
What part of you guys ain't that good are y'all having such a hard time understanding. You really think if you get to the championship game Ohio, Michigan or Penn ain't gonna beat you 61-2? Gophers Win
@@jonossell121 Having trouble comprehending what you said
I'm a Minnesota guy so I have been razzing a lot of the comments from Iowa people. Only thing I find annoying and I shouldn't because I have been laughing for almost two hours now is that your team is not that good, you know they are not that good, everyone in the Big Ten knows their not that good and it was only a matter of time before another team that is not that good beat you. Nothing personal sorry if I was mean
@jonossell121 Sorry as well. I know you want my comeback but it's currently on your Mom's chin
How much impact the signaling had is very hard to determine, but a rule is a rule. Plus, Iowa got a lot of help by the refs on their TD drive, so I think this evens it out.
Well at least some people outside of Iowa will have heard of Cooper DeJean now
The ref was the only person in the stadium including all the players on the field or people watching on tv that thought was a fair catch signal.
He did not think it was a fair catch signal. It was not called as a fair catch signal.
It was illegal fair catch signal, and that means any waving motion.
This is one of those things where the player is trying to do the right thing but the rules are technically being correctly enforced. Gotta find a different way to tell teammates to move without waving your arms. But this call wasn't the reason why Iowa lost - the 127 yards of offense was. Woof.
All right, ref simp
They still had 1:33 to go 56ish yards and couldn't even get 1 first down. Stop waiting Iowa and fire your OC.
The player never waved his arm but instead stuck it straight Out Below his shoulder pointing to his teammates. I suggest you watch the the entire play
This is correct. Iowa had 93 seconds to move 30+ yards for a field goal attempt and couldn't manage it. Let's not act like the invalid fair catch (which is exactly what it was) cost Iowa the game. The fans were pissed because they knew their offense couldn't move the ball 1/3 of the field for a field goal attempt. Iowa lost because their offense is wretched, not because the refs screwed them.
@@aaronrider4051 Just those 4 words tell me everything about you
As a Hawkeye fan, this was the most wild thing i've seen
As a badgers I needed yall to lose sorry
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Some of the Iowa fans are without any class at all, throwing stuff at the Minnesota sidelines, this cannot be excused.
@@garymorris1856It wasn’t at Minnesota, it was to the refs. The refs in pretty much every sport nowadays suck ass and need to all be fired. Sports are no longer legitimate, always rigged
@@garymorris1856when you only get to go to the "big city" once every couple of years it's probably pretty hard to shake the hillbilly out of them in just a few hours. Who paid and counted the money to buy tickets for them?
Huge win for Punters!
They still had time to get into field goal range. Poor form to blame the officials because the punt returner screwed up and then they couldn't move the ball into field goal range.
The more I look at this the more I agree with the call.
As a Iowa fan we didn’t deserve to win this game regardless of the “bad” call
It was a bad call and Iowa should have won without it being called.
Agree
@@BrugerQing
2 yards of total offense during the second half just isn't going to cut it Iowa needs to bury that 1920s style of offense
Yeah its kind embarrassing to say that im an iowa fan when we can almost lose to fcs schools like sdsu in 2022 just because we have a horendus offense@@daniellewis5474
Bad call by the referee! They should strip the stripes off that official
From a Badger fan and former referee.
Just a awful, awful call. Makes you wonder if some games are fixed
Good call