GTA Online: Jet Cannon NERF Explained! (The End of Lazer Dominance in Freemode)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 14. 06. 2023
- I explain in detail what changed with the explosive cannons of the Lazer and Hydra with the San Andreas Mercenaries DLC in GTA Online. No longer will the Lazer dominate freemode lobbies with these nerfed cannons.
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Be careful everyone with your bunker and DO NOT GO THERE If you donât want to lose your personal vehicle.
That bug is more to do with the MOC, the actual bunker itself still works fine
@@AndrewBlackMaster itâs just for more caution
@@AndrewBlackMaster Yeah. I sold my bunker stock while I was there after the update and didnât lose anything. So as far as I know itâs just the MOC.
Iâm here to inform you dudes, this was a comment on the previous video about it. Thanks to Johnclemash2544 for pointing this out as I didnât even think of it. Iâm rusty and just never looked into things to ruin my account like failing a predestined slot glitch.
The avenger/moc/Terrorbyte is spawning in with stock personal vehicle variant (basically the colors of the game auto assigns to the vehicle if it were glitched into a personal vehicle). The reason why you lose your last person vehicle when you modify the Avenger (or MOC/Terrobyte) is because doing so overwrites your last personal vehicle (basically the game thinks you brought in a new civilian car and put insurance on it with no predestined spot to put it in, the game, naturally just delete the vehicle that is last called) Same concept is why when you used to do the last GCTF MOC method youâd have to call out a car or else your MK2 would delete itself.
This is identifiable because when people try and make modded Avengers and Terrorbytes they have do a complicated glitch to turn their Service Avenger into a Personal 1 (with no predestined spot).
TLDR: the pure existence of having the predestined spot is causing the bug for every vehicle in that category (Avenger, Terrorbyte, MOC)
Heres an update, with further investigation
When this glitch happens, it doesnât just delete your personal vehicle, it replaces that vehicle with a personal (whatever vehicle had the bug). It wonât appear in the mechanic, and will only be visible if you try and buy a car into the garage where your car was.
You cannot call them under any circumstance, but they will be there in the garage and youâll see them if you try and buy something over the slot
My MOC isnât broken, Iâm soooo happy
I still find it funny that itâs possible for a player to survive more hits from the cannons then cars do
That's rockstar logic for you
Shit is ridiculous. I was just flying a hydra then got sniped at. Tried killing the guy on the ground and the canons literally did nothing to him. GTA will be getting deleted soon
One more thing cock star destroyed. This game is slowly becoming irrelevantđ
@@staydown4bonah thereâs no way, you still gonna be able to kill
@@Walker-ow7vj believe me, I never grief in my jets but decided to try. They've changed the physics of how it flies near the floor and the Canon speed is like 4x slower. Cars don't even blow up anymore, it now requires like 2 or 3 passes for a car to get blown up. The homing rockets are the only useful weapons now.
Also noticed before the update it was easy to take down an avenger with the guns, now the avenger is feeling like an actual threat to go up against.
Yeah especially if you played the third mission of Charlie's
It needs a nerf ( in the armor at least )
A fully manned avenger was already one of the most unbeatable things in the game, now it's pretty much unbeatable.
@@mbtenjoyer9487 I'm either/or on that. The avenger in terms of armor could use a nerf, but I'm also thinking so could the savage (explosive minigun wise) as it wasn't nerfed at all apparently. Along with those being nerfed, the other military vehicles in terms of armor could use a buff though.
@@Mickey-wk1ujBut people would hardly use the savage before. So I think this is a good thing that the savage finally gets more attention!
Flying around with any other jet other than the Raiju is almost impossible to do peacefully. Either you're always watching your back and the area around you for a stealth fighter, or you end up getting snatched by one when you're not paying close attention.
Jets arenât even viable anymore
Who flies Jets peacefully in public lobbies?
@@sviatoslavbatsyts7431me
@@sviatoslavbatsyts7431I always flew my pyro around and would just do stunts. I wouldn't attack anyone unless they came at me first, and even then if I noticed they were heading my way I would just avoid them. I liked approaching others in regular planes too and do stunts around them, and sometimes they'd join me. I made alot of friends that way đ„Č
Sound is your friend. No amount of off the radar can stop you from hearing the distinctive whoosh of another Raiju nearby
Now they need to rebalance B-11 to have a better cannon, but have less dogfighting capability (which doesn't make sence in the first place), and whole class would be pretty balanced
The A-10 in real life is a pretty dangerous dogfighter. So It's not that farfetched
â@@DemonLordGamingAC0 a10 is a shitty dogfighter in real lifeđđ
@@DemonLordGamingAC0 Because of all those air to air kills it has achieved in its operational history? Oh right, the A-10 shot down 2 unarmed helicopters and zero planes ever...
â@@DemonLordGamingAC0isn't it literally made for ground targets?
Increase health
Increase cannon fire rate
Decrease agility
This great but now I personally feel they should buff the b11 but nerf the mobility. Because it just feels all jets aside from the new one are basically the same in a way. I always felt the b11 shouldâve been a plane that specializes in taking out ground targets but nerf the handling of the plane to make it more challenging. I donât know just a different opinion. And it def wonât happen anyway lmao
I feel the gun isnât strong enough to warrant using it.
The b11 is already slow afđ đ
I think the cannon should definitely do more damage to armoured targets. But not against players on foot
@@chuihoi1423 itâs pretty fast when you get to maze bank tower altitude, which is good because if they buff the cannon, it would make it more viable at killing armored vehicles. It has the worst cannon in the game.
yeah exactly, B-11 deserves the old Lazer cannon, but a heavy mobility nerf so it can't win dogfights and takes a while to climb back to altitude after a strafe run. I'd also like to see a nerf to the Heavy Sniper for the B-11 to compensate for the lower mobility if it does happen considering how much of an easy target it would be. The #1 jet strat for taking out snipers is to come from directly above, and with less climb rate and mobility the B11 would be an easy target.
It feels so weird now đ I always end used the jets as self defense when I was getting greifed and I was pretty good at strafing,now I lost something that was apart of me.but I also feel lucky that I kinda mastered the starling and the new jet
try using the b11 with its rocket barrage, it requires skill, but can be reallly good, especially now with nerfed cannons so other jets arent a risk as they were
@@lucvkl b-11 takes time to learn with but its a very good jet once youve learned
hahaha yes suffer you foul meta abuser
Deal with it.
I know right. It feels like something is missing from the jets. It just doesnât feel the same anymore
At this rate, a Besra is more deadlier against foot soldier, because it can scoop you from the ground. Also it ist worth mentioning that Raiju is completely bulletproof.
Bro it issss the starlings gun barely makes it smoke
Dont Worry now my Rogues better then a hydra
The new jet can use vtol mode while upside down, if u hold the left trigger youâll stay floating in the air upside down
Yep, you can do that at any angle!
The hydra used to do that too. Not sure anymore because itâs been years since I tried it
â@@Malice_dollNo, you'd plummet to the earth with upside down VTOL for years.
I never tried that with the 2015 handling before they screwed it up when adding the avenger, so I can't confirm if it always did it, but for years you would sink to the ground if you tried VTOL upsidedown
I think they nerfed the cannon a bit too much. Reducing the blast radius would have been more than enough. The firerate and the damage shouldn't have been changed imo
Now those jets are pretty much useless in freemodeđ€
Good
@@Elstratigos Thats not good, nerfing shit is never fun. They should have buffed everything else to be able to compete
Cope
@@alexanderwidmar2850 Yes, because what we needed was more vehicles that can rather easily spawn trap people. Even with a smaller blast, they were a 1 shot cannon that shot as fast as a minigun on a target that is somewhat difficult to destroy without a vehicle of your own or utilizing a building, which isn't always an option
@@izaakburningham3188 you can literally just teleport away if youre being spawntrapped, happened a lot of times to me when a tryhard or even a modder tried spawnkilling me. Not to forget the railgun and explosive rounds exist, annihalating any aircraft that isnt an avenger in like 2 to 3 rounds if you dont miss all of them
I agree that the jets needed a nerf. but not this much of a nerf. the people on the ground are more of a danger to you than you are to them đ
if someone hops out of their vehicle, you've pretty much gotta fly away. they have to up the armor or increase explosive splash dmg or something. E rounds and the Rail gun doing as much dmg as they do is a problem if the jets are gonna be this bad at hitting ground targets
Isn't the Lazer meant to hunt other jets? Why would it be effective against ground targets?
â@@El-Leon-VLLC why people start asking after 10 years? Imo the nerf was to much as well, especially with all the counters we have. And honestly, I didn't mind getting killed by a jet. I liked it as a tool against sweats etc.đ
@@MortyMore Rockstar answered after 10 years* we've been asking for like 7 years lol
@@El-Leon-VLLC I did not lol. Since it's Gta, i never asked for logic / realism. Only thing i still wonder why the B11 is like it is đ€Ł
Freeaim missles duh. Get good.
Now that those cannons have been nerfed and we have the railgun the explosive sniper should be gone imo, aircrafts can pretty much do nothing against it
If I'm fighting someone that's using a jet I'll get one to take them down and then I just get back on the ground and start having a sniper battle with them The only thing I'll miss about the old cannons is being air support for my friends when they do missions and stuff
We still have bombs for that
Also I just saw it only applies in freemode so it still works during contact missions
@@yarnickgoovaerts we do but I like the cannons more and when my friends sell their businesses I like being air support against griefers and I don't really do contact missions anymore
@@Impala_babe then I can suggest you either practice some more with the new cannons, use the savage, or find a different vehicle with different to use
â@@Impala_babeor use the Avenger lmao, no one would try to destroy that cargo
@@El-Leon-VLLC especially with the new upgrades it's got it's a flying fortress now
This was the worse way they could have gone with the nerf. They only need to nerf splash radius and make unarmored cars and players 4 shots to kill and everything else take 8-10 more shots to kill.
That's... almost what they did
@@El-Leon-VLLC Without the firerate changes. Obviously. Also, they do the same damage. So it takes the same amount of shots to kill. And fuck you for taking so much cut on my diamond casino heist.
@@El-Leon-VLLCyea awful , splash damage shouldâve been less! DMG SAME itâs a fucking JET for GOD sakes . It has a damn cannon which should obliterate everything .
I think the B11 has a slightly higher firerate than the jets now, but only by just a little. It was in a video by TheProfessional.
Thatâs how it should be
but DPS is still lower as each shot from B11 does less damage than the hydra's. Proven when he killed the nightsharks
i think its too much most jets can be countered by a railgun or e-rounds, the lazer and hydra were very good for pve now they are nearly useless for attacking anything on ground. gta online feels so watered down and boring now, i remember saving up for days to buy those jet years ago and them actually being useful. i get for a few years some vehicles were too overpowered but with the addition of being able to do businesses in private that fixed all the problems grinders had for griefing. counters were already there before the nerf for the freemode players, people like ghilliemaster who make countless videos whining about the lazer act like they are completely defenseless against it. the lazer and hydra dont even have armor upgrades or countermeasures you can easily just shoot it or not put yourself in the position to get spawn trapped. most griefers just hide inside of a kosatka next to a yacht or use some off radar glitch and yet people with 1000+ lvls cry on youtube about thermal vision and how "broken" jets were. you dont see good players like uversus make videos constantly polishing rockstars tip to water down gta online to a point where its barely even fun
railgun, rc, job tp, nightshark, mk2, explo rounds, bst and sniper spam at jet, BUILDINGS,get in a starling or pyro, theres deadass so many ways to counter jets and the cannons did not need a nerf... playing against any half decent player in a jet that can be 1 hit by most explosives or get jet sniped out of. no reason to nerf expect players who just cry despite the fact that there are so many counters for them to use.
I spent 6 mil on a Lazer and now it's useless đF*CK YOU R* never getting a penny out of me again
Yeah i just came back on gta after months of not playing now im deleting the game again
â@@BLVCK-VINCIsame bruh, been like 2 months and I immediately felt the difference in playability. Not gonna let GTA take up this much space on my hard drive when it's a dog shit game
it doesnt matter if thry can spawn trap you with strafe runs. glad they nerfed it.
It weird they managed to fix thermal on the Avenger, but not on planes yet.
Its a good thing too. Avenger thermal in an open area, you have zero chance... especially if they can be off the radar with its upgrade.
Thermal Avenger wasn't even a glitch. You just had to have Thermal active when you get on the cannon.
It's not completely fixed there are still was to do it I saw a group of 4 using it with the avenger just yesterday
@@brotherhood1541wait avenger has off radar now ? Finally jeez .
Im og jet player⊠so sad for new players.
Thank you for doing this proper tests because people keep saying the blast radius is nerf and say its not like Literally giving different answers and this completely shuts them up
was waiting for your vid on this one. curious about the nerfed stats
After the nerf, the Lazer just felt⊠nostalgic. Like the rate of fire to me was something I was so use to on Ace Combat when I was starting and adapting to, understanding the fighter jet to get the edge.
Epic to see another ace combat fan
The new firerate isn't even remotely comparable to Ace Combat planes' guns, unless you are talking about like the "cannon" option in AC3.
@@Giratina575hereâs another one
Right, so where is my EML
â@Ryosuke Takahashi I want to understand the enemy
Man Iâm lvl 460 and I always handled them jets quite well while they attack me, the nerf for the two jets made 1v1s less fun now tbh but at least that f-35is around :)
950/461 level here, I feel so sad the original jets were âtoo OPâ⊠they were a threat, sure, but so many morons never knew how to fly! đ€
(950/460 = two characters with those levels)
@@TaikaJamppa nah man the jets made 1v1s intense ong it was fun the way it was for real
960 is basically level 100-150 on pc due to xp drops.
I loved using the hydra to kill the headhunter targets everytime i logged in. they should give counter measures to both at least, now that theyre shittier
@pmillymusic Having to fly in circles for several minutes to avoid MkII OPpressor spam is annoying as fuck; and they still can hit you if they just hover their sci fi shit bike close enough to you.
Think you could do a test against sell mission vehicles? I'm curious as to how the damage reduction affects those vehicles. Like will they still blow up in just one good strafe?
On MC sales mission it's still pretty dangerous due to how weak and slow the vehicle are but at least for Bunker, Nightclub and Acid Lab should be pretty safe now unless the jet griefer have god aim
A thing to note is; vehicle damage with explosive weapons works vastly differently from player damage. Took a peak at some weapons.meta files and, assuming these are truly the only files the game pulls from to gather its weapon attributes, then for player damage it's all expressed as a single *thick* integer value, some might even be lucky and get a decimal, but Rockstar is allergic to decimals. For players it's usually divided into 2: "damage at center" and "damage at edge." As the names imply, here, center would be a direct hit, and edge would be "splash damage."
Originally, laser/hydra cannons, like the singleplayer railgun, had identical damage values at center/edge, which is why they were 1 shots to players regardless. With the b11/rogue, they had significantly weaker both, but especially weak edge damage and blast radius (yet rockstar likes making the weaker booms leave fire where they shoot).
Now the laser/hydra fortunately work very similar, well, to players only.
Remember what I said about vehicle damage? Yeah those are calculated just by the integer for the weapon's center damage, and the "WeaponDamageMult" in handling. The laser/hydra always 2 tapped as that handling value never changed, they simply sprayed more with both cannons at once, so it felt like a 1 shot.
So dogfights won't change *too* significantly, if you know what you're doing
But as the G man said, a lot of easy spray jet griefing has been done and dusted, hurray!
P.S: It does operate differently on the Pyro and other customizable planes because 100% armor, well, at least for ground vehicles, *halves* whatever value WeaponDamageMult is set to, presumably this scales accordingly with each % of armor.
Yet despite this, Pyros and other planes, because rockstar likes to be eccentric, not only have a higher WeaponDamageMult value than cars, but they operate differently to damage, all damage done damages the body, tank, and engines simultaneously, hence why planes go down to gunfire if you shoot their wings, so the Pyro doesn't get to experience the damage reduction as well.
I always thought the sound the guns made and the fire rate were so satisfying thats the only thing im gonna miss about the canons
The Savage still has the OG fire rate and damage
Hello Ghillie Thank you for the videos
Next GTA+ benefit is the jet cannons get buffed
I know for real!
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Now u made me wanna buy da gta + thing
We needed a nerf but I think this is a little too much. They should've kept one of the two being blast radius or the cannons shooting at the same time.
No, itâs still one of the fastest jets in the game. Now you need to be very accurate and strafe from higher to accommodate for the lower rate of fire. Itâs a very reasonable nerf. Now other planes can excel now that the lazer isnât fucking overpowered
@@itsGreyHatThen use the Explosive sniper and/or Railgun. 99% of jet pilots expose themselves to those 2 weapons and anyone with a bad shot can take them out
@@itsGreyHat You just sucked at the game and couldn't handle the tryhards...
I think its a bit too much honestly. Just reducing the fire rate wouldve been enough in my opinion. Its really hard to anyone on console now because of the render distance
It should keep its firerate but make everything 4+ shots to kill and half the splash radius.
Hell noooo
â@MikeyPlayz I agree actually
blast radius reduction would have been more than enough, that was literally the entire issue
I think the nerf is alright, but they should've decreased the price for like 60% lol, who would pay 6 millions for the Lazer?
nice work !
Need to call in some wellness checks on the thermal jet griefers after this update
Legit! Theyâre probably gonna raid Rockstar headquarters after this nerf
People might wanna try the Savage or Hunter with a co pilot, although they can be taken down by any semi good player with explosive ammo or a rail gun speaking of the savage, were its cannons also nerfed?
Savage is still the same
The savage is still, well......
A savage
Ghillie said in the video the Savage is the same
Dyslexia ?
@@nuone_9636no retrdation
Hows ghillie not on 1m subscribers?, definitely slept on
i feel like it's necessary to buff the B-11's rate of fire, but keep the blast radius of the cannons. Take the real-life A-10 for example: the cannons on that jet shoot phenomenally fast. This made the B-11 underwhelming, and although the nerfed cannons make dogfights more interesting, the B-11 still feels "held back".
Yes, in real life the b11s fire rate is really fast but same with the lazer / F16. The fighter jets america uses fires auto cannons that have a fire rate of 6,000 rounds a minute. Itâs so fast, individual shots canât be heard itâs just a roar. Itâs like that on most modern fighter jets. But yes I agree with your point the b11 should be better, I just find it interesting that so much people know about the A10 warthogs fire power specifically but not the fact that most other planes of that caliber have an eaqually impressive fire rate.
All jets are useless now against ground targets if they are in vehicles such as night shark, people who didn't like the Lazer are those who didn't know how to defend themselves đ đ đ đ
Now with the spray and pray gone from jets, now the bombers can really excel in ground target dispatch. Planes like the Starling which has bombs can be a real good ground dispatch aircraft
Bro the BOMBS SUCK always have been. Your carpet bombing but youâd need a DIRECT HIT which is awful .
Nice video, as as always. Also looks like Rockstar got one thing right in this dlc.
Some interesting overall testing there indeedđ€ a very much needed nerf to those jet cannons in freemode to avoid becoming spawn trapped by thermal jets finally! Though I haven't had many encounters with those or been on the receiving end of such very few times, if anything I've had more run-ins with Avenger turret griefers spawn camping years back, and now they've made the Avenger even stronger with the new upgrades...đ
But yeah, at the same time I've watched great PvP videos where the HYdra/Lazer jet cannons were used in more of an art form style to take down griefers, like painting a picture on a canvas or something, so weirdly in a way it'll be sad to see those days be history too, but all for the greater good of saving freemode!đ
They should buff b11 canons to old lazer canons and nerf it's mobility.
And nerf explosive sniper.
This isnât saving free mode itâs making it worse and more easy for shit players . If I shell out for a jet I donât want to die to a lvl 100 0.5kd (KD ainât shi but) with a exp sniper or rail gun like wtafđ if you cant combat jet griefer your shit at this game end of story . Go play another game instead of ruining ours . Iâve been hear since 2013 and Iâve watched the game die because of retrd children .
I wouldâve loved it if the cannons still had itâs ridiculous fire rate and original damage but only applies to vehicles so it can still be an anti armor vehicle but heavily reduced damaged to a ground target so itâd take 4-5 bullets to kill someone on ground on top of the reduced explosion radius so itâs still not as easy.
Back with another banger
It still works, I've been smoking fools all day with the lazer
this sucks i canât jet grief anymoređżđżđż
I think that the b11 should have a slighly more powerful canons, maybe a little bit of fire rate or damage, (not both and not by a lot) I mean, the Hole point of the plane is that it has a good machine gun right?
"A Good MachineGun"
Sir this is probably the only way to undersell the A-10s GAU-8 Avenger.
Yes. Somthing that fires 30mm at 6000rpm ment to shred Tanks has a "Good" >"Machine Gun"
As Opposed to a Rotary Cannon.
Oh it also has Smart Bombs. Bombs that deploy more bombs. That jump up. Release MORE BOMBS that spin around before seeing somthing and shooting it with an Explosive Formed Penetrator.
A "Lore Accurate" A-10 can level a City. But no Pilot is ever going to get that sort of mission anymore.
Finally skill based Air to ground combat returns
i love my savage, im glad its still good!
It's just everyone fighting in the new jet now đ
Meh,Iâve seen a couple lazers
@@XBOXWIDOWand they get dominated immediately by the new jet đ
@@Sythorizenah not really I absolutely smoked a dude in my stolen lazer ( new acc) he was doing all the dodges and shit he could but my trick turning is just 2 good đđđ
So basically jets can still compete against ground targets, if players stand in a wide open airfield... and don't have explosive sniper rounds.
They should make cars slower, so that people on foot can compete with them in races. That would be another great improvement.
Which no one is gonna fucking do bc everyone is always in the cityđ
Master Ghillie
Well, there goes my go to vehicle for headhunter. Great.
the next thing they are going use now, is the new F-160 Raiju with stealth mode activated 24/7 đ
They??
@@Freemode57999 He means everyone will abandon their old jets for the new stealth jet
It's great. Used to be, anybody could just wildly randomly wiggle the jet to spray down an entire intersection to get free kills.
Also, is it just me or do the canons have a much higher fire starting chance? It seems like every shot causes a fire now. Even on lower burn chance surfaces like the road. Like, grass, road, everything catches on fire now. It seemed like fires were really rare pre nerf. Very neat change. Fire is fun :D
You get feces on a plate and you're still amazed by that one nut that started germinating in it. "Life finds a way". Idk if it's admirable or not, but it seems like a pleasurable way to live.
Fire does fk all . When u can spam snacks
I love the career rewards I just unlocked the Clifford usb chain.
Can't wait for your review on the weaponized conada in like 3 months lol
You can try it out on one of the free mode missions from the avenger. Really just a better looking buzzard. Weapons are about the same. Maybe slightly worse guns
Question: Would the new jet be over powered if the missles were like the Vigilante's? Still the same 2 missle fire rate just better homing. That way it could be an oppressor mk2 killer. đ€
Yes. Because the same way its an Chopper killer.
I wouldn't say Vigilante missiles, but the tracking definitely does need a little buff for sure. Guns are almost useless on this thing for ground targets, let alone an MkII rat. So I think buffing the missile tracking about 50% and keep the cannons the same would make it more balanced for being a hyper-fast 5th gen jet suited more for air combat, but not make it too op on ground targets still.
I think the missiles are the same as other jets which is very weak. I suggest buffing it like longer locking range (fits more to a 5th gen fighter). Because homing missiles is no longer a threat to cars nowadays, we have a lot of Imani vehicles.
Yes
I actually never had problems with the lazer or hydra, fighting them was easy and using them needed skill or, youâll crash
Finally a good change now for the other pvp problems
Is it just me or does the raijin wings refuse to get cut off when getting hit? I hit poles so many times when strafing but it keeps going and doesn't even start smoking yet
Now its very difficult to kill armoured vehicles
Edit for those people who say savage is still there bruh you dont need to fight a savage in open ground find some cover and use rail shaatt er to deal with them and if u in a nightshark its easy to drive away to a bridge use fmj round on the roter and its gone
Be smart take cover and dont fight head on dumba***
Savage still exists.
@@Sheamerek all fun and games to a rail gun hits you
@@talvisonweed8961 how would someone driveby with a railgun ?
If theyre on the ground, so should you
@@someguywhousesyoutubelikee1376 You could use heavy guns from the back of a truck�
@@someguywhousesyoutubelikee1376 if he jump out the nightshark goodluck
Vault the explosive sniper then too. Now, I canât even just fly around without getting shot down in 2 minutes⊠unpopular opinion but I hate them nerfing this hard
Not unpopular
They nerf the jets but wonât nerf their golden child the mk2
This update was the ultimate f you to those KD farmers but I canât get over the sheer amount of vehicles they removed for what may be for good
Now they should buff the B-11 cannons so it makes more sense
Worst change rockstar has made so far, they gon seriously charge us all 7mil for the laser, many millions for other jets, and then take their capabilities away without the option of selling the useless junk,
This game has turned into a sad cash grab and like one dude said in the comments, itâs watered down, gta used to be the perfect level of toxic, you could go at someone with all the power of a Greek god and now it feels like weâre all shooting the little gun from men in black that will smith used.
10 years if my life has been spent grinding for money in this game, Iâve even bought cash cards or two, Iâm invested like yâall are invested and it sucks to feel like all the work little kid me did to get to this point was worthless.
The game is a sad broken money grab that is ran by morons and people with easy to hurt feelings.
Why they had to touch the laser is beyond me, instead of buffs and nerfs we should have a north Yankton expansion in free mode but no, they add all these damn business and expect us all to grind on them for hours to get Pennyâs, I think these updates have finally put the last nail in the coffin for me, itâs been fun but I canât endorse rockstars stupidity as an adult.
My precious game that has given me years of joy is now a watered down safe place for butthurt little kids that canât use the explosive sniper to hit a jet one time before they die.
Maybe gta 6 will life up to 5âs name but with the way this game ended up, it feels like 6 will be just as watered down and baby bouncy as playing gta sa present day.
Best of luck fellow griefer sweats, I salute you all. đ«Ą
I ent no griefer but I sure as hell was an upcoming sweat . Grinder my ass off for shit then got to an age where I glitched . Now itâs boring depressing the one thing I enjoyed which was this is gone . Didnât even know they needed till yesterday . Went to do a cayo set up tried killing NPC buzzards and didnât kill any I failed that mission because I was trying to cannon them lmao
Legit this the most bs and outright depressing thing Rockstar has done with the game I really damn wish it could be reverted, as a grinder and occasional PVPer I never really had an issue with jets griefing me, you could already get back at them with the explosive sniper or pulling another jet, also piloting actually takes skill, I'd take jets any day rather than no skill mk2s and deluxos, then the nerf royally screws up the hydra and lazer's both PvE and PvP capabilities and makes them worthless compared to the power creep inducing cashgrab vehicles like the raiju, then there is the whole fun factor completely taken away from having the old screw-whatever's-in front-of-you cannons compared to those pitiful pea shooters, it gets more depressing the more I think about it, I remember the Hydra was my very first weaponized vehicle after purchasing on a sale and this just hurts to the core remembering the old times
â@@meme_daddy69 if they put pre nerf ghillie would complain
Just say your upset because you can't have your way and be done with it
I agree jet cannon's need a nerf but not nerfed into the ground like this. These planes were glass cannon's. Now someone on the ground is a bigger threat to the jet than someone who spent millions of dollars on a high tech military aircraft. Also people will just abuse the mk2 oppressor even more now which was harder to deal with than jets ever where. If they nerfed jets this hard its time to nerf the mk2 oppressor into the ground as well. Otherwise this was all for nothing. They at least should give the b11 the savage cannon so there is at least one plane thats still viable against heavily armoured ground target's. Name me one plane currently that can reliably take out tanks and nightsharks with ease... I'll wait. Armoured vehicles will take over now and because I play in free aim I'm not looking forward too it. The savage is useless with all the railgun and mk2 spam, we need at least one jet with a good cannon. I say the b11 would work best just reduce the splash damage so you have to be more accurate and its not so broken but up the damage and rate of fire so it can reliably destroy armoured vehicles. Like ghillie masters old video he made about rebalancing the b11 would work well nerf the handling buff the cannon damage and rof but limit the splash damage. Problem solved that way there is one dedicated ground pounder plane. At a bare minimum they should buff bombs perhaps it would be better than nothing and if they made them good enough to reliably destroy armoured vehicles then I think planes might be fun and balanced again.
I totally agree the amount of nightshark and tank users has skyrocketed. And mk2 kids are everywhere...they need to buff the rof of the cannons but keep the current damage and splash radius. No jet canons fire that slow even ww2 20mm cannons could fire 10x faster this is ridiculous why change it now? All they had to do was patch the thermal goggles glitch then it wouldn't have been such an issue for people on the ground.
Nice Video but can u explain how u put thermal in a jet on?
I love the b11 brrrrrt sound I swear it just hit the spot
Rockstar should give partial refunds for nerfs.
Once (or if) the MOC bug is patched, Iâd love to see how the new guns go up against the cab.
On a more general note, Iâm so happy that I can cruise around freemode a bit less paranoid that the hand of a god itself may smite me. Letâs not get too excited though, these cannon nerfs (alongside the MKII nerf a while back) are only a small chip in the many problems that this game has. Good start thi
"bit less paranoid" stealth jet above you đ
Call in the moc, I still do it
â@@Anguish88I think he means there's a bug which is why he doesn't call it in. Also a jet is not doing fuck all against an moc cab now
â@@user-jv6pv2rt8y who cares.
â@@Prplex.I think the bug only happens if you try to customize the moc cab.
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@GhillieMaster, for the bunker, can you still use the business or should people stay away from it in general.
You can, just don't touch the MOC
The worst nerf
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1:34 âMost powerful cannonsâ bro why does everyone forget the savage
Most powerful JET cannons
I'm sure there will be a way to glitch the jets from missions into freemode for the op cannons
Now freemode is almost somewhat bearable
It wasnât even that hard to destroy jets in the first place. Just use the sniper and have good aim. Or use the revolver glitch. I used to use the Jet in headhunter to destroy the armored cars.
Sure, and railgun helps a lot. But you know, the hard part was cargo griefing and spawn camp. You couldn't do anything against a thermal jet in a open area (only passive or tp) and your cargo, doesn't matter which vehicle, would get destroyed in less than a second. This at least gives you a chance.
@@El-Leon-VLLC I did all my sale missions in an invite only session lol less stress
@@grayghost9837 ofc, but imagine paying for an online game to play it alone
@@El-Leon-VLLC UmâŠ.I donât ? I invite my friends into the session.
I feel like weâre entering a helicopter dominate PvP meta, with the Hunter and Savage, tho easier to counter with the railgun than the Jet dominant meta prior to the railgun being added
Coming from someone who primarily uses the B-11 in combat and dogfighting, I am not a fan of the Jet Cannon Nerf. Even though I always hated dealing with jet Griefers, all you need is the Explosive rounds (which most players have) and the railgun. The Hydra has absolutely no place in the game now, and these 2 jets are now barely viable in PvE scenarios. With dogfighting, the Hydra is one of the worst dogfighters in the game, and the LAZER gets easily outmaneuvered by the B-11, and even good Starling and Pyro pilots can take them out.
i don't know why no one uses b11 but dive bombing with barrage is amazing
MG kills are more fun. :)
@@trap_shadow8467 but b11 right is the best jett over all only loses to people who can actually use the staring other that best in everything
It's Nerf or nothing.
Maybe buff the b11 with bigger and stronger explosions to be more vehicle accurate but also I like that they did this but I feel it is just going to push more people to the mk2 and that still needs to be dialed back
Maybe weâll see people using the savage again
This has been a HUGE improvement. Man it feels soo good to not worry about jet griefers anymore. But sadly, after just a day and a half after the update, there's practically no one in any jet at all now. First day+ was some really fun dogfighting. But now the skies are just dead in every lobby i join in. Blah
Not really. You can just use B11. Or Rouge, Nokota and Starling. Starling, Nokota and B11 MG kills are really funny. But they should have not nerfed the MG's so hard, because there is no use for that Vehicles anymore. Their Dead
ikr i came late to the party :(
Also anyone weigh in on this idea. Have it so every lazer/hydra you purchase have the nerfed canons. Yet the Lazers with the OG cannons still exist in the military base and in order to use them you have to break in the military base to use it just like the old days. And for modern GTA Online's sake, make it more difficult to break into the military base (Make the military response more agressive etc.) yay or nay?
We would be back to square one, the base hangar gives you access to the Lazers with ease.
@@GhillieMaster thatâs true otherwise I wouldâve liked that idea.
@@GhillieMaster Ah, true, didn't think about that. Miss the old days of being able to break in and steal them. Was just thinking of a compromise, as I just loved messing around with the meme cannons strafing npc's and such
cops turn a blind eye + hangar = Lazer from military base for $5k.
It's so easy I don't even own a Lazer.
One word: Savage.
And yet there's still a limit on ceo/mc in a session.
Never thought Iâd see the day where jets would get nerfed definitely a welcomed change
As a jet griefer, I am very disappointed. But I see this as nothing more than a new challenge. Observe. Adapt. Overcome. âïž
You have a buffed Avenger now
We will comeback harder. First ewo, then the mk2 nerf, the jet nerf. The new jet is even better no need to abuse ghost/off radar by switching ceos anymore all stealth
@@El-Leon-VLLC Yes! More ingredients for my dastardly cauldron! Bwah ha ha ha ha ha!
I feel like when you're good at somethings. You're gonna stay good and you're gonna adapt to the changes. So no matter how hard they nerf anything online, people who have been specialists in combat, will continue to be good at it. Regardless.
True. I already found another way to hit ground targets since the lazer cannons got pretty nerfed which is with the missiles, they are very accurate if you know which wing the rocket will scud from
I been using the savage recently since those cannons have not been nerfed
I think the savage needs an armour buff, I'm ok with its speed if they would increase its armour, and I'd be ok with how little armour it has if the increased the speed back to were it was on its launch day
Give it countermeasures
@@XBOXWIDOW No. Its only good against Noobikes or Deluxos. But against this Vehicles you normaly just use a Jet. Its unnecesary against ground players. Young can just dodge the Stinger missles.
i think this nerf is good i like slowly destroying other jets rather than instantly blowing them up
Its funny how all these people don't like the nerf when this jet was the whole reason why nobody likes it cuz it completely ruins the game and stop people from being in sessions
Well itâs amazing news for us Avenger lovers.
TL;DR: The Lazer/Hydra now it's for great pilots that know how to fire the cannons (or play with free-aim rockets)
Love to see the Savage it's untouched. What kind of balance can you make to that heavy helicopter that can't avoid the nerfed MK2 rockets or RPGs? It's still excellent for doing missions because you can clean an area so much more quickly, with the con of being slow and heavy in the turns.
Savage's biggest weakness is actually its health pool. In PvE you can really feel that when enemies fight back. It should have a cap for bullet damage so it can be a flying tank against NPCs since players are much more likely to use explosive weapons. That way it could be a absolute PvE beast while remaining pretty much the same for PvP.
Nice nerf that was welcome but it cost us nearly 200 cars, hurrah?
Can u make a review regarding the new shoes (yeezy)+ BST, its been makes u run sooo fast
They also fix the bug with the MOC bunker glitch for a background update.
That snipeïŒ 3:55
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The rein of missile free aiming has startedđ
Iâm here to inform you dudes about the MOC glitch. Not many saw the comment in the last one so here. This was a comment on the previous video about it. Thanks to Johnclemash2544 for pointing this out as I didnât even think of it. Iâm rusty and just never looked into things on YT to potentially ruin my account as most of the glitching community is half assed reposts.
The avenger/moc/Terrorbyte is spawning in with stock personal vehicle variant (basically the colors of the game auto assigns to the vehicle if it were glitched into a personal vehicle). The reason why you lose your last personal vehicle when you modify the Avenger (or MOC/Terrobyte) is because doing so overwrites your last personal vehicle (basically the game thinks you brought in a new civilian car and put insurance on it with no predestined spot to put it in, the game, naturally just delete the vehicle that is last called) Same concept is why when you used to do the last GCTF MOC method youâd have to call out a car or else your MK2 would delete itself.
This is identifiable because when people try and make modded Avengers and Terrorbytes they have do a complicated glitch to turn their Service Avenger into a Personal 1 (with no predestined spot).
TLDR: the pure existence of having the predestined spot is causing the bug for every vehicle in that category (Avenger, Terrorbyte, MOC)
Heres an update by John, with further investigation
When this glitch happens, it doesnât just delete your personal vehicle, it replaces that vehicle with a personal (whatever vehicle had the bug). It wonât appear in the mechanic, and will only be visible if you try and buy a car into the garage where your car was.
You cannot call them under any circumstance, but they will be there in the garage and youâll see them if you try and buy something over the slot