This Needs to be Said...
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2022
- Sorry if this isn't the type of video you were expecting but I wanted to voice my opinion on this topic.
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I don't expect to be forgiven, but this time i want to make a proper apologies. I am very sorry for my actions, comparing one player to another is not a good thing, I'm very sorry to everyone who were harmed about the things i said, especially to the one i compared to. And you're right about the apologies that i wrote on my profile, it was all rushed and i didn't know what i was saying. I realized that the apologies on my profile did not look good with the 'twitter' thing and does not look sincere, but that was too late change. I may be missing something but this is all i could think of. Again, i am very sorry for my actions.
owo)b
dude skill = rank frfr
😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
only sorry because you got caught 💤
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This does not change the fact that in Australia there are 48 million kangaroos and in Uruguay there are 3,457,380 inhabitants. So if the kangaroos decide to invade Uruguay, each Uruguayan will have to fight 14 kangaroos.
Very cool
There's more Kangaroos in Australia than people
TRUE…
what about cows and chickens
Very off topic but (owo)b
We just need more of these content bro, keep going !
Thanks Nate, will do :)
@@KaneMining daddymining omg
4th lol
@@kwq_space daddychunmaru omg
SILLENGLIOUPS!!!!!!!
Kibitz: "You made a mistake, move on from it"
Petty mfs in the mania community: "oh hell nah boy we are going to remind speedskilled of this 24/7 he just ended the world bro"
but i agree to what you said speedskilled is clearly in the wrong
LMAO thats so true
As a Filipino, I feel a lot of second hand embarrassment.
It's all good, we all have to cope living with them
@@Kibitz Thanks haha
bitches do be tarnishing the country
(although it's already tarnished due to the recent news)
I'm so sorry I have a genetic disease called being Filipino
@@luculia1655 facts
A bit of perspective to the "joke", as someone who spend a decent amount of time in Filipino gaming communities and is a Filipino my self. Comparing ranks or bragging about it is very common. Obviously, it is toxic behaviour to do such thing, but in the Filipino gaming communities most people shrug it of as a joke and almost everyone anonymously agree that it is "humour". Which is why I kind of understand Speed's condescending tone in his/her apology.
Can vouch, also a filipino myself. And we do that type of jokes also in our friend group.
Can also vouch
Can vouch as well as someone who plays ml and is finally in mythic
I think indonesian do that too sometimes like comparing ranks
@@TENZOI yeah, same
its his birthday forgive him 😆
I didn’t know T_T
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This is what you'll be if you become really good in a game when you just started out. You end up being an inexperienced high-ranked kid boasting how good you are and believes that rank = skill with no respect to lower ranked players whatsoever.
i feel like ive been seeing more and more people like that recently which is definitely not a good sign
@@Tenta_meow i guess new players are just becoming better and better these days because 1k pp is not impossible anymore
@@ominoussage And because the newer players are younger and less mature, and it could also be that because they improve so quickly and move up in the ranking so quickly, they don't gain as much experience or hone / develop their skills / fundamentals properly.
@@Tenta_meow Don't expect anything when the game forces you to be a dick, almost every new map is made just for the reason to exploit the pp system... Imagine players who only play those maps and get a high rank because all you do all day is farming those.
Robeats moment
as a filipino, im sorry for existing
It is something we must all cope with
It's fine mate (as an Aussie btw)
Personally, his apology looked like he wanted to just quickly wanted to move on from the situation. Thing is, that almost always backfires, and people can sense when you're disingenuous. Also, since when did rank matter? I have been in the top 2000 for 3 years and that doesn't make me feel any more better than the people above me in skill (sometimes at least).
The influx of new players from gmt and roblox made the game more popular and competitive for rank
Fnf* autocorrected to gmt
Well this is true, but there are players from those games I personally know that grew to be good and aren't boasting about it. It is just that not everyone can be like those individuals I am mentioning. Everyone grows differently in the rhythm game landscape.
I understood this very well when I saw a 6 digit in standard hitting 400pp streams, the guy didn't farm at all, then proceeded to actually play pp-worthy maps and get to ~5.5k in a couple of months
Very well said. There is a lot more to the game then just rank and it’s pretty unfortunate that this kind of toxicity happened. Sure someone may be a 4 digit but that doesn’t mean they’re actually “4 digit skill”.
So toxic saying how isn't he in the team 💀💀😭😭 what an evil person. How could someone EVER say that. Its much better to name, shame and make an entire video about it slamming the player instead of educating about the misconception. This video could have been made with the same outcome while blurring the name. This is toxic as fuck
@@LOLzum101 Its not toxic at all, the video wasn't about belittling the person being mentioned in the video, that person was just used as an example to explain the misconception more thoroughly, and it wasn't designed to specifically shame speed in any way shape or form. Plus if people decided that he wasn't good enough to be on the team for whatever reason, then he's not good enough to be on the team.
well said, do more osu community commentary. i actually really enjoyed this one.
M a r i p f p
Is that osu! mania streamer sinofcringe????
idk why im seeing way more toxic people in this community recently. is it really that hard to be friendly to others?
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Yes what he did was toxic. Making a video naming and shaming someone and leaking messages on discord isn't toxic. What a fucking world we live in. Baa more sheep
Younger players, most likely coming from Roblox or fnf.
I don't know, but I can see younger people act like this
@@hubutnotsotao5362 imagine getting this worked up because a 14 Yr old said he was better than someone else at a video game on his own server 💀 💀 💀
I agree completely with this video. Despite being an Osu STD player, rank doesn’t determine your level of skill, fully. I for one realised this when playing a multi lobby for fun, where many different types of maps are picked. I am rank 35k globally and there was this 6 digit, around rank 100k, completely destroying some of the higher rank players in the lobby. At first I thought he was cheating, or an offline player, but when I looked at his playtime on his profile, he accumulated 80 days total playtime. I for one was a rank 35k, but only had 15 days of playtime. This made me realize how different it is from playing multiple skill sets and putting a lot of time is as compared to completely playing the game for rank whilst only using one mod.
Yes, everyone is good at their own skill set and rank can’t justify any of those skill sets individually
@@Kibitz yes and there is mreek
40-45k osu standard player taking a hiatus here. I get shit on all the time by 6 digits. I have a decently diverse skillset but I’ve also basically retry spammed all of my top plays. There is a very specific skillset I could usually beat some of the better 6 digits in, and even then no guarantee. Rank doesn’t really matter.
Ok but if a 6 digit has 80 days of playtime, they're most likely a deranker, probably for tournaments, which is kinda scummy
Depends on the rank difference… I’m a 6 digit in standard (well used to be one day ago) and I’ve beaten people 30k ranks above me but I know that if I were to face someone who is 4 digit or high 5 digit then I’d get my ass whooped no matter if they were a dirty farmer or not.
not really into osu!mania's community, but I really agree with the skillset stuff. Thats why I really like etterna's way of ranking, since it is based around different skillsets. It's not perfect but it's definitely better than most. looks like speed apologized for this anyways, so I hope they go on to learn from it. good video!
Thank you so much !
Omg kade dev plays etterna?!1?1?1!1!11??1!1?1?1?1😱😱😱😱😱😱😳😳😳😳😭😭😭😭🗿🗿🗿🗿💯💯💯💯😎😎😎🔥🔥
I’m not even a 4 digit, but I can definitely understand the frustration
I find it funny that in my case I suffer the opposite, where I can read high nps and my eyes can follow it fine, but I can’t move my hands fast enough :(
I’ll just stick to high Acc 4*
This could happen with "Dans=skill" one day
what do you mean "one day" ive already seen it happening 💀
it already happened before
and it's still there
Dans=skill has been happening for at least 6 years
I been sittin at same rank for like a year now man im too lazy to care about farming im just happy I passed galaxy collapse once lmao
Just found this video through recommendations and really enjoyed it. Would love to see more osu stuff! Subbed ^^
Thank you!!
Ranking would be better if chordjacks and other type of skillsets were ranked and not just BS LN and jumptrills
Well nothing stops people from playing unranked chord jack maps either
Haunted, Vend, Grin: ???
Ok I'll stop
@@Qisth75 well just 3 maps isnt enough+they are so underrated like haunted is 6.4 stars even thought its harder then some DT maps that are 8 stars like kai dan DT
@@Destroy194 true tbh also I think there aren't that many single stream maps in ranked apart from empress sc and eternal 2nd last diff + other maps I forgot
thank you SO MUCH for speaking this up dude
i'm absolutely fkin tired from those deadass farmers who think they can dominate an entire tournament and ends up losing early cause of bad accuracy
you deserve more than millions views for this
They really did my MWC captain (PotassiumF) and team like that 😔
i agree with this, especially with new people entering osu and not knowing how ranks work
People that compare other players because of their rank is actually stupid. Ranks don't matter at all, in this game whatsoever. Thank you for this video!
My arguement for that os digitalhypno, a tournament demon who was 4 digit for years in standard until he had a bet with exarch to get as high in the rankings as possible and he got rank 289 peak.
i lost a friend because of this. he was so toxic because he was higher rank than everyone else, and so he thought he had more “authority/respect” than anyone else. was disappointing to see :/
That’s cap ranks do matter to a degree it’s just a different skill set being able to farm ranked maps and can still be impressive
Considering over 90% of the playerbase would quit instantly if rankings weren't in the game, i would say that rank matters quite a bit..
but the competitive value of osu is what motivate me to improve tho, although im still bad, all this while realising that rank NOT equals skill (to test that just play multiplayer with low rank k̶o̶r̶e̶a̶n̶ players XD)
hopefully this wont rub off a bad reputation on the philippines team
i am so embarrassed by my country
Rank is just a number that most of the time only shows who is the bigger farmer.
i don't play mania but i believe this is important cuz it applies to every osu game
It’s not that a mania player’s rank does not indicate the player’s skill at all. Higher rank does usually indicate a player’s capability on raw skill, but raw skill is barely relevant in the earlier stages of tournaments like MWC. Accuracy, consistency and memorisation all play way more important roles in earlier rounds. Therefore, mocking our captain (who was decided to be our captain not due to his skills, but his experience in tournament logistics and team organisation) on the basis of his raw skills to judge our entire team’s capability in the tournament is less of being rude really, but more of being misinformed or simply ignorant. This incident did kind of boost our team spirit though ;)
Good luck to y’all against USA :)
@@Kibitz thnx we’ll try our best hahaha ;)
Im not a top notch player but seeing excellent scores from accuracy players really gives me goosebumps. Please appreciate them more as said in the video.
o7 Acc player supremacy
Hi :)
@@themysteryl69 you’re too good :(
@@Kibitz no you!!
How acc plz
Thanks for covering this!!
i feel so sorry for people who experience the toxicity of my own country and i hope you guys can forgive the toxic filipinos you meet, its just that almost every filipino are competitive when it comes to games theyre good at and it reaches a point when they become toxic even to foreigners
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Great video, I thoroughly agree with your opinion and you shouldn't be hesitating to voice out your clear opinion!
Actually i dont care about prior experience when it comes to tournaments. For example for the germam owc team there is a country wide tournament anyone can sign up to to compete for the german teams spots in owc.
i call this documentary
very funny joke 100%
@@themysteryl69 o7
im like 96k (osu!std) but i think im just a little bit better than what my rank would suggest. sometimes i get the urge to set a score like once a month, but it usually ends in failure and i just go back to playing the game like i was before. playing songs i like, chillin, or maybe even playing certain maps out of my skill range to try and improve. in this situation, it can *MAYBE* apply to the 4 digit australian player in the video. some people like setting unranked scores or playing to get better rather than to gain pp. and thats what i do. i like to enjoy the game while also improving but i dont care for gaining pp.
Kinda sad cuz it's not even like rank doesn't equal skill is a new concept, its something that literally anyone who has put any amount of time in this game knows.
Nps is not equal to difficulty, but what about total notes divided by duration, then divide the answer by the amount of keys (like 4k, 7k)
I think in this context, it's more so comparing patterning to how difficulty is perceived rather than considering length
a perfect video on his (speed) birthday 💀
oops completely coincidental i swear :)
@@Kibitz YEP
@@Kibitz getting so triggered by someones opinion you try to ruin someones bday 💀💀 u must be a real winner irl huh
Thanks for covering this.
owo)b
when osumania content creator talked about skillsets ≠ rank argument better than osu standard players :skull:
Didn't expect this tweet to blow up lmao, but still this topic not only needs to be addressed (since many people are saying this especially since the past year) but also the people who do such things really need to stop, cuz it's so damaging to this community greatly and its just so sad to see
So yea great vid and commentary by you again, and I hope this message can get through the people who do this and their thick ass skulls
2:24 💀
funny bc rn PH literally got the #2 seed in mwc
I didn't know that Kblitz from Malaysia. Me too, I'm Malaysia 🇲🇾
Although i am from the standard community we have seen this kind of attitude amongst top players too. For example a player from Belgium was so fucking toxic abiut rank etc that he got BANNED for it (he was rank 74 peak and number one country by over a thousand ranks). He was also not allowed to join the 2019 roster cause of that attitude, so this is sadly not new to me.
std community monkaS
never know ishowspeed play mania
the perfect birthday present
*osu!std comment here*
The thing new players dont realize, rank doesnt mean skill.
Some skill sets could be underweighted as fuck.
Such as EZHD, a hard mod combination (unless you are a HD main like me) that trains HD reading to the point the AR is very low and the map density is super high.
On the other hand, some skill sets can be overweighted as fuck.
Like HDDT, a easy mod combination (only if you are used to consistently reacting to fast circles) that trains basically nothing but getting used to high AR. And yes, you can practice speed/stamina without DT by modifying the bpm of maps with certain tools. Non HD players play HDDT as a way to farm extra pp since they can't read low AR HD. Also the density is super low.
Some people might be derankers or straight up offline players (like me).
As a std player, I find it way more impressive for someone to fc a crazy 400-500 pp tech map than mrekk to fc a simple 1000-1200 pp HDDTHR 270 bpm farm map. I've seen far too many players who could just fc jump farm maps for around that much pp.
i just started derusting on standard after about 1.5 years and having fun trying new things (EZ, FL, AR 11 reading, better acc with HR/OD 10) and i agree with this 100% holy shit. I can't farm at all for the life of me because 1) it's unfun as hell, 99% of the ranked maps feel EXACTLY the same, and 2) now that I've spent about a year on mania I REALLY think accuracy needs to considered way more than combo. Personally I think it makes 0 sense for a 99% with a couple misses to be outshined by a 94% just because the latter held 200 more combo
Even in mania the meta is literally just "jumptrill faster = more pp XD"
best way to avoid all this fuckery when trying to get into mwc team is to just host a team qualifier tournament in your own country to decide who goes on the team and who doesnt
I came because i saw NEKO from cytus II, stayed for the drama
I wish people could just stop throwing rocks at each other
i like how you compared 2sky to jhlee LUL
I'm way overranked but I'm still proud of hitting rank 5.3k in a year with no prior rhythm game experience
Same
I am overranked oso due to ln 7k
Peppy when pp rework for mania again T.T
I miss my graph straight down
literally just came from one of his jtoh vids, didn't expect for him to be fricked in the mania community lol
I didn't expect a JToH player to be in this video. It is shocking how JToH players know OSU for whatever reason.
@@sumunecacho6450 im literally a osu touchscreen and mania player and also my hardest in jtoh is steeple of climbing and tower of tokyo heights
Only thing higher rank equals to is a bigger ego
Really good video man, thanks for addressing :)
I like these kinds of videos you should do more xd
We have Osu!Drama now? oh cool!
keep uploading great videos! also this was very based
long story short there is a reason that world cup isn't Myuka vs Monging guy
i found speed through roblox obbies, got into osu, found that he played mania, and now he's in drama. dude wtf.
literally the exact same thing for me lol
same
That map on the first 2 seconds of the video looks oddly familiar
It’s the new ghost map. It was in my previous video :)
i'm assuming this was all said in a public discord? because if not there are a lot of people who ego type as jokes in group chats and stuff/complain about random things that made them kinda mad, so i just want to know
Idk but i assume it's his discord server so yeah
I have to be real straight and honest,
Gamma 97 does not mean you’re the boss of everything, and thinking you could get to mwc straightaway, NO!!
As a tachyon Dan player aka me myself, I didn’t show enough good scores that’s why I wasn’t qualified, DANS DO NOT MATTER WITH SKILL COME ON GUYS, Rank also don’t matter
It’s just players who played consistent hours for this, they don’t care whether your gamma, tachyon, delta, no.. you must show effort to make it TO THE qualifiers
The job isn’t easy as you think, you need to push hard, you need practice from the start of your goal, PP as well don’t matter
What I can say now by this is if you want to make it to the team, Show EFFORT AND NEVER HOLD BACK!! RANK AND DAN DONT MEAN ANYTHING TO SKILL, And never compare yourself with pros, it’s not a good thing
, this is what aggravates players the most
Ex. ‘You’re 2 dans lower than me, how could you be worst’
It aggravates even some high ranks as they get this all the time
Anyway I’m just delivering this message for everyone as of this situation, again skilled, although you do have apologised, make sure you try harder next time if you want to make to the team
Thank you,
-Flandrex (DragonHean321)
#4437 Country rank #99
Again I was reluctant to send all this out, but you heard what solleks said few months ago until now of me saying this,
DONT COMPARE WITH OTHERS
as a filipino, im dissapointed
Heyo quentin5110054 here from the france team,
It was the first time that i did the mwc and man that was stressful , as someone who is top 550~ i can definitly say that rank isnt skill, for example lott is a 4digit and he rekt ass all day long, i dont usually do tournaments cuz i have stress issues , but they still wanted me bcz i build my reputation in the french community as a great player , even if im more knowed for playing a shit ton of ranked maps for top 50's or pp Plays or QUENTRILL QUENTRILL (fun fact i usually pp when im bored and i think there is nothing wrong with that lol 😎) , i think you guys should just play like you want and just enjoy the game like you want, play anything you want to play even if its shit like me doing some 1h maps or full jumptrill/splittrill/trill maps lol, i play like i want osu isnt meant to split ppl, we are a community.
PS: i feel rly burned out of the game and i think im going to take a break, and i think some ppl should do the same before having the same problem, taking breaks is always a good thing, dont worry about your skill you'll get it back eventually, just take some time for you. Its important.
Wish you all luck
Bye bye
rank and pp dont affect your skill at all
The moment i saw the Philippines flag, yeah not a surprise.
So what this means is that I as a rank 200k who hasn't played Mania in a year could be in MWC?
dude rly produced this sheeesh
also rank and pp matters... in vibro mashing skill yeah
btw kibitz in NZ mwc roster when? 8)
Not when i still have the MY flag on my profile
ask osu supports aye
@@proxae osu support will not change your flag for any reason, ever. those are the rules
that's shit
You know until I saw this video I was calling 2ky sky instead of two - kee
I think it is sky and I’m the wrong one haha
i always just say two-kai
is that obby guy?
tbh 4k maps are mostly more difficult as 7k. sure 1:35 looks rly impressive but for such stream maps you just have to spam as fast as possible. try to do the same thing on a 4k map which got a 10 or 15 star rating. you'll see it's a lot more difficult.
Edit:
more fingers does not mean more difficult. who is already used to writing with 10 fingers (ok 8 + 2 thumbs) will not have any great difficulties with 5k - 9k. in addition, you get significantly higher kps with more fingers, which makes it less impressive.
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Nice commentary!
Thanks
ur not getting selected in x team from ur rank, it depends how ur attitude is how well known you are at the community, like "yea this player is better than this player, why is he getting selected but not the better player than him" while that better guy is always talking shit bout other people and having better rank, everything useless if you got no attitude in life
sorry for ass english hope someone will know what i mean
:0 I know elze they're super kind
Well his humour has a same level of PH dissing each other but his level mockery humour will destroy his reputation lol
What does the gradient in the osu profile name mean?
1:30 wtf both of them are so good I can’t even hit them im gonna die within like the first 1 second
that one random 6 digit: hold my drink
As a filipino, i feel so ashamed.... ( But its something we all cope with )
I just wanna add a bit more from the perspective of a non-mania/very casual player, not to take a cheap shot but a friendly caution. In particular, "higher"-ranked players.
REMEMBER, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANOTHER ACCOUNT(s) for this game. YOUR ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW IS YOU.
So, Please be careful about what you've done. Especially matters that can cause an uproar.
im not sure what you’re talking about rank does = skill :clueless: (so rea)
rank =/= skill. im top 6000 and i still have to worry about fighting against fighting people who arent even 4 digit in certain things
To be fair some people are just smurfing REALLY hard. I'm like #160 and still lose to 5 digits too
Yooo the player name in the profile look so good!
How did you do that? I mean the gradient color on the player’s name
its a plugin done by cpol
The speed guy is mostly known for his "Roblox Parkour" skill the guy who commented is his second channel.
I’m aware
True, Actually that seed (speed) guy is known for his skill is wallhop
4 digits back in 2017 to me are much more achievable, if I were to start with a Tablet pen...
Now I had hard time passing to 5 digits...
Sure I still play for improving, but nowadays it's all about Digits shit and Mrekk doing DT stuff
I don't farm PP, I don't want to farm, I want to improve...
Just don't be surprised when you see some 6 digits somehow FCing 6.5* because they never farm PP
However for that scenario you would've been reported for cheating, it's how the life in osu...
SKILL RANK SKILL RANK RANK SKILL, banger video btw
IMO some people are just built different
As for example some random viral YT clipper which is 300k rank in STD FC a 6* diff spike (Though with very low accuracy and it isn't that impressive tbh) he also FC's some 5*
Meanwhile me with the basically same rank can't even FC some 4*, can't even pass majority of 6*
One thing i am good at though, is finger control
That's why i usually get better acc but way worse combo than some 5 digits on some random 5* STD map
That said, i think equipment matters too, most people do be using tablets and mechanical kb nowadays and i'm only using mouse and a laptop keyboard (Which is suprisingly good lol)
As a filipino, i am 90% sure he was indeed trolling and was just having a normal day
As a person with twisted dark humor who has no shame in social media and is also a filipino, i can tell you rn this guy is thirsty for clout and he probably thinks he is famous just because he is a top player (he is not famous btw i know 2ky more than this guy), which is why he is acting like that.
I also have the need to say sorry for this persons cringe(?) attempt of looking good so, I apologize
wrong. bigger pp = better person (real)
jk. im #2768 and have a better score on fitbs 0.9 than #959, #1345, and #1445 because jack main. but when it comes to LN i get completely destroyed even by people that are like #10000
im 7 digit at ln pog
Its not the comunity/games/country that are bad its the people makes it bad
I thought speedskilled is American but he was filipino (he's a pro at difficulty chart obbies)
ayo zspeedskilled from roolox?!
yeah filipino jokes r like that sometimes, as i too always do that, despite being dogshit at all games
I gon draw the line here, as he clearly stepped over the line of what is good and what isn't.. That's not humor, that's literally ego boosting
yoo fellow malaysian mania player!!
Hi :)