This is my cousin. I'm an American Sean McElwain. My father tried to convince Seamus to come to the states for education in the mid 70's right before i was born. He said he could not leave the struggle. Whatever you think about his beliefs or actions. He was a brave son of a gun. Well respected and monumental in the escape from Maze prison in Longfellow. R.I.P.
Nothing brave about creeping up behind people and blowing their head off or shooting people while hiding in bushes. Rotting where he belongs, in the flames of hell.
@@dominicseanmccann6300 they the brits say he was involved n 12 enemy killings he went straight back to the struggle n 83 after his escape he went back on active service till 86 when he was killed a brave son of Erin we will not forget you 🇮🇪32
i tried to warn people years ago what they planned, but all i got was hun this and that, SF are the real irish traitors sold out there ideals for monkey paws
Rest easy Seamus. Hopefully one day soon you will smile down upon a united Ireland you fought so hard and gave up everything for. He was a true Gael. 32 🇮🇪☘️
Again the bewildered minds are stuck in a world that they can’t forget or never will respect to what we have. If you can’t forget the past then you will never have a future and it’s not for your sake but for your children’s children
Many are happy there's peace for the most part... no one wants bloodshed anymore on either side.... it's only normal that those who died & those whom are still alive still honor their comrades ....
Another guy who would have been better off moving to the Bronx or Boston and painting houses . Glad my people caught the boat , one hundred years ago . On a vacation back in the 90's my Dad said " No wonder this place is so messed up ; all of the smart people already immigrated to America ".
He's my first cousin, and my middle namesake. My father inherited that farm and sold it, as we are in Canada and have no use for an Irish farm. From what I heard, he wore out his boots at an astonishing rate. I have the boxwood fiddle he made while in hiding after Long Kesh. I went to Ireland on a fullbright scholarship as a gaeilgoire (irish language learner) . Everywhere I went, upon hearing I was a McElwain, the people of an Cheathrú Rua(Carraroe) were so kind. As for his demise, some say he was a hero, and others say he was a cold blooded killer. But I recall Bertolt Brecht's Interrogation of the good: Step forward: we hear That you are a good man. You cannot be bought, but the lightning Which strikes the house, also Cannot be bought. You hold to what you said. But what did you say? You are honest, you say your opinion. Which opinion? You are brave. Against whom? You are wise. For whom? You do not consider your personal advantages. Whose advantages do you consider then? You are a good friend. Are you also a good friend of the good people? Hear us then: we know. You are our enemy. This is why we shall Now put you in front of a wall. But in consideration of your merits and good qualities We shall put you in front of a good wall and shoot you With a good bullet from a good gun and bury you With a good shovel in the good earth.
He was responsible for up to 12 enemy deaths this came from the British there selves they say he was one of the most dangerous volunteers in that area a true gallant soldier of Erin who was killed in his prime god bless seamus mcElwaine his sacrifice will never be forgotten 🇮🇪32
@Greenfields 12 the whole plan is going just fine ATM I don't need a documentary to tell otherwise, not doubting the documentary I'm sure it's a proper documentary. 👍👍👍
@Greenfields 12 SF are winning, and it isn't even them doing it. It's self destruct by unionists brick by brick the house is falling down and good riddances to it and NI failed everyone and failed some more than others.
What can be said about this brave young man that hasn’t already been said , I didn’t know this lad but I heard so much about him . I remember his death like so many as a young Republican I listened intently to the bias British media celebrating the execution of a man they could not hold , a man they knew they had to kill as he would never have let them rest in his country . It fills me with pride to be associated with a lad like this by calling myself a Republican. Had he lived he would still be fighting them with whatever means political or physical. His family and friends must be so proud sad but proud he gave no quarter nor did he expect no quarter from his enemy . Ireland will be United soon and Seamus will smile down from above with Hughes Ohara & Connolly they could not hold you they never will .
406estate I'm with you about Seamus, but a united Ireland under Brussels is not what any of the boys fought for. I, and many of the people I know, will never vote SF, ever again.
Sean Lynch should stick to Stormont, same man said the Gordon Wilson's daughter couldn't have spoken to her dad because she'd been beheaded in the Bomb blast. So the story that Seamus was executed while likely true loses validity coming from Lynch.
@@poneill5532 ......usual rubbish , Douglas Deering was murdered in his shop in ROSSLEA , the only Protestant shop keeper in the town , never a member of any security service , also had his shop bombed on four occasions.....by the ‘ non sectarian ira ‘.
@@jaypee6061 Millions of people were slaughtered down through the centuries during Britain's inumbeable wars, are the present British government and population responsible for the millions of deaths, you seem to be a reasonably intelligent person, you tell me.
@@poneill5532 .....virtually every country has a bloody past , to grow or to survive...Ireland itself has been invaded at least 9 times , that we know of , including the Gaels , who took the land for themselves, and fought amongst themselves for hundreds of years....As for the British Empire , the Irish played a full part in building it ...’Irish soldiers, sailers , civil servants, and politicians helped build and administer the Empire’ www.irishtimes.com , Dublin was the 2nd city of the Empire...
@@jaypee6061 Thanks for your polite reply, but the problem is that trying to pretend that imperialism was a great and wonderful thing is to me is bulshit in the case of Ireland most of what you are saying is prehistory and may or may not have happened. That said the belief that human beings have always fought amoung themselves is entirely beliveable. Your point that Irishmen engaged in genocidel wars to establish the British empire is to me a shameful fact. As far as Seamus was concerned he was attempting to destroy a criminal enterprise and anyone who was aiding and abetting criminality was fair game.This is the polar opposite to what the Unionist people believe but there you go.
@@paddy864 you cant even get the Shankill Butchers guy name right for fuck sake. Its Lenny Murphy. And no, two completely opposite people fighting different struggles. Hardly comparable. Plus i assume you'll be comparing the serial killers that operate in the British army (having taken innocent peoples lives in the past and escaped prosecution because their killings were deemed legal by the authorities?).
He would turn in his grave if he saw today's SF.The party that fly's rainbow flags at the Felon's club in Belfast.The party that goes on shame parades.
@@redrifle3341 More courage in a bowl of cornflakes and that’s the truth. I live in Northern Ireland UK 🇬🇧 👍 grab yourself a map next time they let you out for the day 👍
@ProfileP246 You mean the north of Ireland. Technically in the jurisdiction of the U.K... for now. Reunification is coming my friend. McElwain was a feared fighter... that's documented. S.A.S. ambushed him. Nice try though
@ProfileP246 it's funny the British would readily get rid of Northern Ireland in a second if possible. Englishmen view you guys as a drain on their resources period. They dint care about Orangemen and the fucking battle of the Boyne 😆 🤣 😂 Wake up and get out of the past.
@@Felix-rising they the ira volunteers were not defeated they were let down by there leadership Adams in co they the ira still had a highly calibre of manpower and the weapons to keep up the fight yet the catholic’s communities had had enough of war so Adams in co took the political road to get Irish unity 🇮🇪32
@@corrigansrestorationvideos9403 he was working for the Jesuits causing divide murdering his own and trying to overthrow a perfectly good system to replace it with godless evil👍
Jim Lynagh was in charge of the colour party ira volunteers lined up firing over seamus coffin he asked Jim prior to his death will he lead the ira volunteers to give the final salute they were both from the Monaghan region 15.14 Jim Lynagh s carring his coffin n this video 32🇮🇪
He gave no quater and expected none if you arm yourself and side with the English you knew you the risk you were taking. There is only one right side in this argument and that is the Republican side, the same side as the United men of ninty eight the side of Munro Mccracken Macorly and Tone.
@@biddyearly9262 In which case you’d better get your prayer-mat ready, or are you dim enough to think that little Ireland would remain untouched? The same ridiculous attitude many of your people had in 1939 as I recall.
Britan or to be more precise England are already half way out the door with the border in the Irish sea, should never have trusted that taig boris even got married again in a taig chaple . Scotland are packing their bags and getting ready to move back into the Eu. The Scots have long memory's and remember the auld allies, they should never have trusted the the auld enemy but then what would you expect from the Sasnach. In a few years there will be no one left but the English and maybe the Welsh
We as republicans owe it to our patriot dead to continue the struggle until Irish unity is achieved thee who dies for Erin lives we owe them that much it’s not an orange state anymore due to lads like seamus mclwaine 🇮🇪32
Seamus mclwaine could have gone on the run like some did after the great escape though he seen his purpose as going back into active service he was on the run active up to his death in 86 when he was killed by enemy forces when they realised it was seamus that they shot his comrade Sean Lynch tells u this they were shouting at seamus then executed him as he had much success against the enemy forces of Erin rest n peace seamus a true son of Erin we will not forget you 🇮🇪32
No, Seamus was not 'assassinated'. He was killed by crown forces - because he was a very real threat to them, and also to the rest of the people of Northern/Ireland. So let's get the facts straight rather than make heroes of those guys like Seamus who were just stumbling along with their own idea of Irish unity (which I'm all for, as it happens). Terrible, inhumane acts were carried out on all sides, far too many times - so let's all own up to that, all of us. Let's not repeat that long, long sad history, yet again. Tomorrow really is a new tomorrow for Ireland - and also, by default, the rest of the 'no so', United Kingdom.
@@tomaddie1969 Yeah the thing is his revolutionary thinking brought to Ireland and spread by Jesuit propaganda started the whole crap fest and got many many Irish civilians killed, divided the country and caused endless hurt. Him and his fellow stooges started the whole thing on behalf of the Vatican with its lies and contempt for human life. Glad he’s 6ft under👍
This is my cousin. I'm an American Sean McElwain. My father tried to convince Seamus to come to the states for education in the mid 70's right before i was born. He said he could not leave the struggle. Whatever you think about his beliefs or actions. He was a brave son of a gun. Well respected and monumental in the escape from Maze prison in Longfellow. R.I.P.
Recently read a quote from a british army officer saying he would've been S.A.S if he were in their army.
Nothing brave about creeping up behind people and blowing their head off or shooting people while hiding in bushes. Rotting where he belongs, in the flames of hell.
@@naomishtgr you try being a 'terorist' then; see how 'bollockless' you are...
@@dominicseanmccann6300 they the brits say he was involved n 12 enemy killings he went straight back to the struggle n 83 after his escape he went back on active service till 86 when he was killed a brave son of Erin we will not forget you 🇮🇪32
15.14 Jim Lynagh carring his coffin
Without doubt, 1 of the best Freedom Fighters Ireland has ever had, and probably will ever have! 🍀🏴🇮🇪🍀✝️ RIP Brave Son of Erin! 🍀🇮🇪🍀
I am quite happy being british living in ulster as many are...
You can be British and live in Ulster nothing wrong with thar.....
Imagine these men seen the state of this country now sold out to African and Muslims 😢 and it’s the Sinn Fein who’s wants it that way
i tried to warn people years ago what they planned, but all i got was hun this and that, SF are the real irish traitors sold out there ideals for monkey paws
What would these great men think about the ira,s involvement with drugs?
@@dannykelly7159 and he helped it happen what evil scum
Rest easy Seamus. Hopefully one day soon you will smile down upon a united Ireland you fought so hard and gave up everything for. He was a true Gael. 32 🇮🇪☘️
What a terrible waste of life, especially in light of the New Plantation and obliteration of Irish culture and identity.
Again the bewildered minds are stuck in a world that they can’t forget or never will respect to what we have. If you can’t forget the past then you will never have a future and it’s not for your sake but for your children’s children
Many are happy there's peace for the most part... no one wants bloodshed anymore on either side.... it's only normal that those who died & those whom are still alive still honor their comrades ....
@@ogrebattle22763 Amen to that sentiment.
Up against Real Soldiers on a Real Operation this rat ran away and didn't return fire! Live by the Sword 🇬🇧
If you had only 1% of his bravery you would be a different person…….how many British people would fight for their country without pay ???
Tell me your real name and I'll tell you mine or shall I go first. You know that your a coward if you don't reply. Go ahead young man.
I've been told you're now a purple haired babe. We are not fussed where you find an extra hole.
Another guy who would have been better off moving to the Bronx or Boston and painting houses . Glad my people caught the boat , one hundred years ago . On a vacation back in the 90's my Dad said " No wonder this place is so messed up ; all of the smart people already immigrated to America ".
A gang of murderous thugs who met a fitting end.
God Bless Seamus and all the volunteers of the P.I.R.A.
Jim Lynagh with the black knit cap on who would also die in the Loughgall ambush a year later.... 15:12
It won't end how you have been told.., some of us are destined not to grow old.
Anthony
Beautiful music 💚
RIP Vol Séamus McElwaine a true Son of Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Rest In Peace Seamus 🇮🇪☘
My dad used to work for their parents of their farm as a contractor he said that he was very quiet but he was a nice man to talk to
He's my first cousin, and my middle namesake.
My father inherited that farm and sold it, as we are in Canada and have no use for an Irish farm.
From what I heard, he wore out his boots at an astonishing rate.
I have the boxwood fiddle he made while in hiding after Long Kesh.
I went to Ireland on a fullbright scholarship as a gaeilgoire (irish language learner) .
Everywhere I went, upon hearing I was a McElwain, the people of an Cheathrú Rua(Carraroe) were so kind.
As for his demise, some say he was a hero, and others say he was a cold blooded killer.
But I recall Bertolt Brecht's Interrogation of the good:
Step forward: we hear
That you are a good man.
You cannot be bought, but the lightning
Which strikes the house, also
Cannot be bought.
You hold to what you said.
But what did you say?
You are honest, you say your opinion.
Which opinion?
You are brave.
Against whom?
You are wise.
For whom?
You do not consider your personal advantages.
Whose advantages do you consider then?
You are a good friend.
Are you also a good friend of the good people?
Hear us then: we know.
You are our enemy. This is why we shall
Now put you in front of a wall. But in consideration of your merits and good qualities
We shall put you in front of a good wall and shoot you
With a good bullet from a good gun and bury you
With a good shovel in the good earth.
@BrianMcElwamy at the funeral my dad picked up one of the bullet shells that were fired over his coffin but he sadly lost it
He was responsible for up to 12 enemy deaths this came from the British there selves they say he was one of the most dangerous volunteers in that area a true gallant soldier of Erin who was killed in his prime god bless seamus mcElwaine his sacrifice will never be forgotten 🇮🇪32
It s Over the time will come when peoples and there masters will realise the just peoples will not be BROKEN ❤
Are u haven a bubble he must be spinning in his GRAVE
Our heroes ❤🙌💙👏♥💖will always live on, long after the brits are gone. Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Free at last.
Rip Freedom fighter Irish unity is now a referendum away thanks to brave men like Seamus may he rest in peace
You do know the republic doesn’t want the north right ?
Muppet 😂
RIP seamus, a great volunteer, never forgotten 🇮🇪🇮🇪✊.
@Greenfields 12 the whole plan is going just fine ATM I don't need a documentary to tell otherwise, not doubting the documentary I'm sure it's a proper documentary. 👍👍👍
@Greenfields 12 SF are winning, and it isn't even them doing it. It's self destruct by unionists brick by brick the house is falling down and good riddances to it and NI failed everyone and failed some more than others.
@Greenfields 12 do you are taking the point of one man. Bit selective.
R.i.p. Irish man
And what was achieved in the long run....so much violence and death....?
What can be said about this brave young man that hasn’t already been said , I didn’t know this lad but I heard so much about him . I remember his death like so many as a young Republican I listened intently to the bias British media celebrating the execution of a man they could not hold , a man they knew they had to kill as he would never have let them rest in his country . It fills me with pride to be associated with a lad like this by calling myself a Republican. Had he lived he would still be fighting them with whatever means political or physical. His family and friends must be so proud sad but proud he gave no quarter nor did he expect no quarter from his enemy . Ireland will be United soon and Seamus will smile down from above with Hughes Ohara & Connolly they could not hold you they never will .
Just got to convince the republic to take you
@@Felix-rising Take me ? This is my country I’m Irish this is Ireland .
@@northred4930 yes but unfortunately the south doesn’t want the north, they cant afford it.
@@Felix-rising bull.
@@northred4930 I’m celebrating his execution and I’m not British media👍
Seamus was the bravest of the brave who gave his life for freedom of Ireland he will soon look down on his beloved united Ireland…..R.I.P
406estate
I'm with you about Seamus, but a united Ireland under Brussels is not what any of the boys fought for. I, and many of the people I know, will never vote SF, ever again.
Hard core you would not understand touch the floor, you don't own where you stand..... Anthony...😊
only meet seamus once an everlasting experence rip seamus
Sean Lynch should stick to Stormont, same man said the Gordon Wilson's daughter couldn't have spoken to her dad because she'd been beheaded in the Bomb blast. So the story that Seamus was executed while likely true loses validity coming from Lynch.
I think he murdered my neighbours brother, S.A.S. don't miss thankfully.
Shot down unarmed farmers doing their days work ......
He shot no innocent men anyone he shot was a armed agent of the British crown he went to extreme lengths to make sure they were.
@@poneill5532 ......usual rubbish , Douglas Deering was murdered in his shop in ROSSLEA , the only Protestant shop keeper in the town , never a member of any security service , also had his shop bombed on four occasions.....by the ‘ non sectarian ira ‘.
@@jaypee6061 Millions of people were slaughtered down through the centuries during Britain's inumbeable wars, are the present British government and population responsible for the millions of deaths, you seem to be a reasonably intelligent person, you tell me.
@@poneill5532 .....virtually every country has a bloody past , to grow or to survive...Ireland itself has been invaded at least 9 times , that we know of , including the Gaels , who took the land for themselves, and fought amongst themselves for hundreds of years....As for the British Empire , the Irish played a full part in building it ...’Irish soldiers, sailers , civil servants, and politicians helped build and administer the Empire’ www.irishtimes.com , Dublin was the 2nd city of the Empire...
@@jaypee6061 Thanks for your polite reply, but the problem is that trying to pretend that imperialism was a great and
wonderful thing is to me is bulshit in the case of Ireland most of what you are saying is prehistory and may or may not have happened. That said the belief that human beings have always fought amoung themselves is entirely beliveable. Your point that Irishmen engaged in genocidel wars to establish the British empire is to me a shameful fact. As far as Seamus was concerned he was attempting to destroy a criminal enterprise and anyone who was aiding and abetting criminality was fair game.This is the polar opposite to what the Unionist people believe but there you go.
Fermanagh Brigade...... 🇮🇪 ..... God bless you Seamus.....
Try and remember Fermanagh victims before their victim makers..
@@joprocter4573 trust you joprocter war is hell there all victims🇮🇪32
@@johnkennedy972 terrorists are random killers and no way are groomed beliefs victims
Great irish man . Rip
KING BILLY UP THE ORANGE 🧡🧡🧡
Embarrassed for you
Rest In Peace Seamus a through Hero
Yeah, like Kenny Murphy you mean?
@@paddy864 you cant even get the Shankill Butchers guy name right for fuck sake.
Its Lenny Murphy. And no, two completely opposite people fighting different struggles. Hardly comparable.
Plus i assume you'll be comparing the serial killers that operate in the British army (having taken innocent peoples lives in the past and escaped prosecution because their killings were deemed legal by the authorities?).
He would turn in his grave if he saw today's SF.The party that fly's rainbow flags at the Felon's club in Belfast.The party that goes on shame parades.
@@sonnyirish3678 Rubbish that was the goal from the start.
6ft under 😂
👍😍 I love it.
Like you should be
@@ProfileP246more heart and courage in his pinky toe than you have in your entire body. Btw you live on the island of Ireland haha
@@redrifle3341 More courage in a bowl of cornflakes and that’s the truth.
I live in Northern Ireland UK 🇬🇧 👍 grab yourself a map next time they let you out for the day 👍
@ProfileP246 You mean the north of Ireland. Technically in the jurisdiction of the U.K... for now. Reunification is coming my friend. McElwain was a feared fighter... that's documented. S.A.S. ambushed him. Nice try though
@ProfileP246 it's funny the British would readily get rid of Northern Ireland in a second if possible. Englishmen view you guys as a drain on their resources period. They dint care about Orangemen and the fucking battle of the Boyne 😆 🤣 😂
Wake up and get out of the past.
At least Bobby and Martin had someone to show them round hell
No room in hell Lennie Murphy has has all the seats, here lies a soldier my arse.
@@poneill5532 hell was full when Bobby and Martin went there
have some respect you mightn't agree with this young oglaghs politics but he fought and died like a soldier unbowed and unbroken
The vaccine would be to good to them
Shankill butchers are probably at the top table.
absolute hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ta ar la ag teacht ✊
Who makes this shit up
@@johnandrews7085 The Vatican propaganda team.
Great Result 👍🇬🇧
I wonder if he would have supported the peace process now
They all did , they were defeated
@@Felix-rising they the ira volunteers were not defeated they were let down by there leadership Adams in co they the ira still had a highly calibre of manpower and the weapons to keep up the fight yet the catholic’s communities had had enough of war so Adams in co took the political road to get Irish unity 🇮🇪32
@@johnkennedy972 Sure they were infiltrated and all the top men were touts they got totally smashed👍
Huge respect 🇮🇪
An enemy of a true Ireland
How
@@corrigansrestorationvideos9403 he was working for the Jesuits causing divide murdering his own and trying to overthrow a perfectly good system to replace it with godless evil👍
Jim Lynagh was in charge of the colour party ira volunteers lined up firing over seamus coffin he asked Jim prior to his death will he lead the ira volunteers to give the final salute they were both from the Monaghan region 15.14 Jim Lynagh s carring his coffin n this video 32🇮🇪
wahh wahhhh wahhhh
Why remember him ?
@@Francoop4 Because he was a murdering coward and we must learn to identify them👍
@@ProfileP246 fairplay to you.
He gave no quater and expected none if you arm yourself and side with the English you knew you the risk you were taking. There is only one right side in this argument and that is the Republican side, the same side as the United men of ninty eight the side of Munro Mccracken Macorly and Tone.
Who set him up??
Well it was mcguinness that had the handler
@@christinemolloy2723 provide a source for this bullshit please ?
Jim lynagh is in this seamus asked Jim if anything happened to him he wanted Jim to be in charge of the colour party 15 20 🇮🇪32
Patriot dont make me laugh and for the record britain will never leave
Islam will rule Britain.
@@biddyearly9262 In which case you’d better get your prayer-mat ready, or are you dim enough to think that little Ireland would remain untouched? The same ridiculous attitude many of your people had in 1939 as I recall.
Britain is ready to go, protocol just the start
Britan or to be more precise England are already half way out the door with the border in the Irish sea, should never have trusted that taig boris even got married again in a taig chaple . Scotland are packing their bags and getting ready to move back into the Eu. The Scots have long memory's and remember the auld allies, they should never have trusted the the auld enemy but then what would you expect from the Sasnach. In a few years there will be no one left but the English and maybe the Welsh
@@biddyearly9262
Islam will rule ireland. Can see it coming. Funny to see loyalist and Republics on the sa e side.
We as republicans owe it to our patriot dead to continue the struggle until Irish unity is achieved thee who dies for Erin lives we owe them that much it’s not an orange state anymore due to lads like seamus mclwaine 🇮🇪32
no its a muslim one now and its been swopped from a british jackboot to an eu on the peoples throats
Seamus mclwaine could have gone on the run like some did after the great escape though he seen his purpose as going back into active service he was on the run active up to his death in 86 when he was killed by enemy forces when they realised it was seamus that they shot his comrade Sean Lynch tells u this they were shouting at seamus then executed him as he had much success against the enemy forces of Erin rest n peace seamus a true son of Erin we will not forget you 🇮🇪32
RIP 🍀
One of the best 💚🤍💛
Hero
Oglaigh Seamus the bastard's feared you even the sas
@@user-lo3bp2gb8d Because he never washed and stunk to high heavens👍
Big stones you have no clue.
🇬🇧
Ha Ha! 🇬🇧
No, Seamus was not 'assassinated'. He was killed by crown forces - because he was a very real threat to them, and also to the rest of the people of Northern/Ireland.
So let's get the facts straight rather than make heroes of those guys like Seamus who were just stumbling along with their own idea of Irish unity (which I'm all for, as it happens).
Terrible, inhumane acts were carried out on all sides, far too many times - so let's all own up to that, all of us.
Let's not repeat that long, long sad history, yet again.
Tomorrow really is a new tomorrow for Ireland - and also, by default, the rest of the 'no so', United Kingdom.
For fucks sake man pick a side you know what the great magician said they are neither hot or cold I will vomit them out of my mouth .
@@tomaddie1969 Yeah the thing is his revolutionary thinking brought to Ireland and spread by Jesuit propaganda started the whole crap fest and got many many Irish civilians killed, divided the country and caused endless hurt.
Him and his fellow stooges started the whole thing on behalf of the Vatican with its lies and contempt for human life.
Glad he’s 6ft under👍