Great advice. If you really want the new super duty, order the one you don't really want just so you can get it sooner. If I'm paying new truck money, it's going to be exactly what I want.
Just picked up my 6.7 F250 Lariat with Ultimate Package and cannot be more pleased. The look, ride, power output, technology, is just unbelievable. While super expensive, I think it should last me 15 good years. Picked up the unlimited year 150k mile bumper to bumper warranty as well. Beautiful and amazing truck.
I drive a Platinum 350 SRW and have a snowplow to push for the state. The max recline seat is gonna be heaven when I'm out on duty for 36 hours straight!!
I love everything about these new trucks, but was already at my ceiling when I bought my 2020 6.7. Glad I'm not in the market now. Same for same, a similar new XLT is now nearly $80k vs my sticker at $65k (which I got for $58k). Those times seem to be gone. Have fun folks. I used to upgrade on a fairly regular basis, but I'm already calling this my last truck purchase.
Ain't even in the market for a F250 and by the time you said you'll sell at MSRP you won me over. Nothing but the best for the honest folks at your business and anyone that doesn't adhere to the insane markups that dealerships are dropping into already expensive vehicles.
You’re happy to pay MSRP? Just be patient and do your research because you can still get below MSRP. There are dealers giving anywhere between 2000-5000 below MSRP if ordered through them.
Just to let you know, I ordered a 2023 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab, short bed, with everything that could be installed. I got the 6.7 HO. The order was place on April 7, 2023. Ford notified me on April 22 that the truck had been scheduled for production with a build date of May 5, 2023. This truck was ordered in Southern California. I am waiting for the notification that the build was done today. I will let you know.
I work at a Ford supplier where we supply components for the Super Duty. Ford will be assembling and shipping 2022 SD’s from Louisville until the middle of Jan due to the parts shortages. 2023 models will not even start production until Feb since it is a platform change. Don’t hold your breath.
As always an informative video from Mitchell, however considering what Ford will charge for these trucks, customers should be able to order them in the configuration they want and not what’s easiest for Ford to build, the advantage of a Job 2 truck is that (hopefully) any production issues with the job 1’s should be resolved before they start job 2 production, reducing recalls, which going on Ford’s recent efforts, might be the way to go, plus I would like to see what sort of numbers the trucks are putting out for payload, towing and engine etc before placing an order, as annoying as it is to have to wait a long time for a new truck, I would rather get something I really want than to settle for what they can produce quickly
I attempted to order a 2023 yesterday at Stokes Hodge Ford in Graniteville SC. I was immediately presented a $10,000 markup so I walked out. Interest rates are going up fast so be careful where you order. FInance rates will likely be close to 8-10% by the spring of next year. That will add a couple hundred dollars or more to your payment. Also, your trade in will no longer be appreciating but depreciating. Once again, be careful with your expectations.
I always walk out too when they mark up the price. It's complete BS and the government does nothing about. I know Ram and Chevy also mark up but Ford is the worst
I just purchased a 24 XLT with the premium package, FX 4 off road package and it had the B&O system, long story short I had a 23 F350 that ended up being a lemon 1500 miles and no one could figure out a charging system fault, dropped off at dealer April 03, 2024 declared a lemon I went through the whole Ford buy back program as well, decided to get another Ford the one I got I believe was a custom order that was never picked up cause it was nowhere listed for sale. Anyway tons of options, a crew cab with the 8 foot bed as well, not that I was looking for that but it had it and it was not a deal breaker, plus if you order it the 8 foot bed is only like 200 dollar difference. Again thanks for posting
Ford steps on their bag again! You need that converting console to a desktop for the Super Duties too! and while you're at it make Blue Cruise available for the Super Duties.
Go ahead and order one. Just good luck getting the damn thing. Waiting 9 months for my 2022 F-350 King Ranch. Now the 2023 are coming out. Going back to GMC. The step in the front of the bed is as useless as, well you know what. Step in it and lean on the bed, belt buckle scratches the bed or you get stuff on the bed from you clothing. Rear step is great.
Great looking truck and a great video. There is quite a bit of hype around the 40K gooseneck tow capacity which I find somewhat irrelevant since you have to give up quite a bit to reduce weight and meet that capacity. Sure it is awesome, however, three of the options you are giving up are the spare tire which is essential for traveling long distances, it has to be a 4x2, and also a regular cab. Basically, this capacity can only be met in the XL package since all the others are standard 4x4, and I don't see very many investing in an F450 that is only two-wheel drive and a regular cab. unless they opt. for a cab chassis configuration with a short flatbed. In my opinion, don't focus on the 40K lbs. when purchasing a truck as the standard 32,500 lbs. towing capacity in the F450 Crew Cab 4x4 configuration in 2019 has only increased to 32,600 lbs capacity for 2020 thru 2023 which is sufficient for most. The 6.7 and 6.7 HP option does not change this capacity. And towing large loads with a shorter wheelbase is not as comfortable as having a longer wheelbase, especially during long distances. Sure it is a great claim but probably won't sell very many of the required packages. I have a 2020 F450 4x4 Superduty XLT Crew Cab, 8' Box with the 6.7l and a CGVW of 43,500 lbs. I haul a 5th-wheel trailer, also gooseneck cattle trailer, and a very large flatbed hay trailer. Fully loaded and have not come within a ton of the CGVW, Payload, or Tow capacity. As mentioned in the video, I would opt for the popular crew cab 4x4 6 and 3/4 box or bump up to the 8'box for extra clearance if you do a lot of hauling.
Been considering moving into F250, this video has been invaluable. Ford Product Managers and Marketers, take note, this video is how to take this F150 from consideration to conversion.
Super well done - wish I was closer to your dealer. Sadly it looks like it'll be along time before my truck arrives - I'm basically ordering every single item you said will take forever. Heading to local dealer tomorrow. Thanks for producing this.
Just ordered my 450 Lariat with H.O 6.7 , Ultimate package and a few other small options today. From what I understand, today was the last day for pre-order before they close the ordering window. Great video btw...
So glad that Ford watches your videos, that said Ford, as a 2018 F150 XL STX appearance package very satisfied owner please continue the STX option going forward as I will definitely go with that package in the future. Thanks so much. (:
So I guess I’ll be ordering a XLT sport appearance package and the Ultimate package, with a 7.3L and 4:30 gears. It sounds like the perfect truck. Everything i want and nothing I don’t. 👌
I purchased a brand new 2020 F250 with the 7.3 L gas. It's a beautiful truck, the engine is strong and it was much less money than a new diesel. BUT, I would never buy it again. I get 7.9 mpg around town, not towing. And 6.2 mpg towing 6200 lbs. And the 10-speed transmission has had nothing but problems/ malfunctions ever since it was new. I don't mean to be negative, but this is a real world review
My dad just ordered a f350 long bed lariat his first new truck since his 2005 f350 he still has. It will definitely be an upgrade. As for me I’m sticking with my 2005 f350 diesel I can’t justify the payment or the unreliability of the diesel emissions
Just wanted to share that I drove my bronco to off roadeo Texas and just got through awesome experience thanks again he told me to be sure and tell y’all to tell everyone to come!!!
I'd like to start by saying even though I don't live in Alabama, I wish there was someone like you here to be so honest and helpful. Considering still reaching out to you instead of the Ford dealers here. You made me GENUINELY more excited for the 2023, but now as we get deeper into customization, I'm just entirely bummed out by this truck again. It's a love hate relationship, really. I've been looking at the 2022 seeing what packages I want, and I was hoping that they transferred the availability over to the 2023 year. 2023 is the model I'll have to order (I'm much displeased by it as you'll be able to tell), and it's got to be a DRW, 4.10 limited slip, Diesel engine, and it's got to look nice to drive as my sole transport outside of heavy work. Ford just doesn't seem interested in selling their DRWs. I'm interested in a sport package, but I'll need the power and the capability of a DRW to move cattle. They're just putting too many requirements to their packages, even if it's due to availability. I don't want to have to aftermarket my truck because I'm unhappy with all the blazing chrome when I'd rather prefer a more "sport" style (I'd already be spending enough money as it is!). Last year's 2022 XLT F350 was capable of 35,000 pounds gooseneck towing in either 4x2 or 4x4, so long as it came with DRWs, a 4.10 limited slip axle ratio, and a 6.7L v8 Turbo. You could get basically everything on a Lariat, except LED headlights, put on an XLT. Now, you go to their website, (which isn't the best since the 2023 is still early development) but you don't see the Premium XLT package, you don't get some of the quality like a moon roof, and they deleted Sync3 with voice navigation out of the XLT. Yes, you can get Sync4 optional on the XL and XLT, but only for an 8" screen that doesn't include voice activated navigation, which I'd have to get a Lariat for. Really, my slogan since I've seen the 2023 has been "I like the box, slap a 2022 cab in front". Maybe it's just because I haven't spoken to a dealer as the ones around here try selling you things you don't need, but if I really had someone to talk with about all this we'd find a solution.
i believe the reason for these big delays on these vehicles and many others is cause of the chip shortage, the chip shortage was the money wrench thrown into our system period.
I hate that some options require whole packages or certain trim levels. I'd be happy with crank windows and mostly basic if I could get the adaptive cruise and ac seats. Adaptive cruise is one of those things that doesn't really matter until you have had it, but once you use it on a long drive you'll miss it when it's gone. The system in our van let's you set it and it keeps the distance you select from the car in front of you. It works all the way to 0mph and will accelerate to whatever speed is set. It's great in heavy traffic that's constantly slowing down and speeding up.
Yeah but the question is is would you be willing to pay more to have crank windows? Yes more! due to production and efficiencies it costs more to put crank windows on a truck than it does power windows
Some manufacturers agree! Our Hyundai Tucson (not a truck wife's car) has standard features that convinced us to make the purchase . once you have lane assist and adaptive cruise control it's challenging to drive without it. These will be as standard as airbags before you know it!
Finally got my Bronco after two years. Originally wanted a Badlands but when I reordered in October 21 I went with the Black Diamond with fewer options but at least I go the hardtop and a tow package. We did the Off Roadeo in MOAB in October, that was a great experience. I ordered a F150 a year ago this month and it still has not shown up. I started with the Lariat package but after I added some options I realized I was paying almost as much as the Platinum trim so I went with that. I got the window sticker back in August with a blend (build date) of early August. I guess that truck is sitting in some lot waiting for the last few parts. They had already deleted a number of my options. I will probably pass on it. How can they still call it a 2022. Dealer told me the same thing last year, now the time to get my order in. No big deal, I'm having fun with the Bronco.
I was eagerly awaiting the orders to open up, but now that I've seen the options and the delays, I think I'll just stick with my 2019 F450. Great video and thanks for your time.
Upfitter switches... If the truck doesn't have em, don't get it... Those are an absolute MUST, even if you don't THINK you're gonna need em... It's a $75 option that costs around $1500 to add later on.. Just do yourself a favor and pay the $75 to get em from the factory...
I don’t understand how they can come out with a new superduty when there’s so many sitting in lots with no chips….but yet built some of these new ones with chips that should’ve been allocated to other peoples trucks that have been sitting in the speedway forever…
I'm guessing that they got around that. I figured at some point that they would. And when the chips finally get installed. They get them taken care of asap. Makes sense to me. And yet it could be something totally different. I'm not concerned. They had to come up with something.
My order is placed... been placed since october...October....!! I better get it before the upper trim levels... Ford was ready to take my order. They took it!! They said the order banks are open! They delayed it several times... NOW THEY CAN'T DELIVER! I do not want to sacrifice on things I want... for the price I'm paying to do things trucks do!!! they should price living their pre-orders since they can't deliver in a timely fashion.. Ford is passing me off and they need to show appreciation to their fan base.
If you’re really selling at MSRP, and can find me an F-150 Lariat w/ the high Tremor package or King Ranch, Platinum with the 5.0L, I’ll drive from Louisiana to buy it from you. Tired of the dealers adding a 5% or more “vehicle shortage fee” to trucks. Seems like price gouging to me. Regardless it will come back to bite them in the long run.
All I have to say is hoping by 2025 things get back to normal on vehicles. I usually traded every 3 or 4 years and was ready to ditch the 2018 F150 Platinum for the 2023 F350. I was about to hit retirement and wanted to upgrade to pull a 5th wheel. Looks like I will be keeping my current truck for 7 or 8 years as I am not "upgrading" to take less features such as the missing contour seats, heated steering, etc. RV dealers are going to start going hungry because nobody can get a truck if they want a larger RV.
I ordered my 2022 F-350 on 12/1/2021 and still don't have it. They tell me that it shipped last week and that it will be at the dealer here in NW Illinois next week...more than 11 months later.
Better save your nickels pops....given where this country is headed, towing a camper trailer will be the least of your problems if President Trump doesn't get back into the WH in 2025!!!
500hp and 1200ftlbs on the high output, same as last years numbers for the regular powerstrokes, 7.3 get a bump in torque to 485 and the new 6.8 is like 405hp 445 torque
If you read the towing, it's 40,000 lbs on the higher end, so I would get the high output Diesel for any dually or large tow config and get the Gas HO for any F250/F350 Tremor package which is much better for off-road use! If you order a Tremor package, see if you can get the dealer to put on 35 or 37 inch Goodyear Duratracs or Nitto EXO Grappler tires. Those larger 3-peak winter rated tires will DEFINITELY make a difference, especially if you are in the Northern mountain States such as Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana or in the supercold midwest and northeast heavy snow winter states (Wisconsin, Illinois, Mighigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Vermont, Maine, upper New York, etc.) 35's fit easily but 37's need a bit of a wheel-well mod or an extra one to two inch lift! One thing I would DEFINITELY DO on any one of your purchases is do a spray-on coating of Line-X brand truck bed liner on the ENTIRE underbody, wheels wells, other underbody exposed parts such as teh entire ladder frame, drive shafts and transfer case and even on all the engine bay walls to prevent road salt and salt-water corrosion on your expensive new truck! The thicker coats of Line-X even help with road noise mitigation! v
7.3L GODZILLA Emblem Decals Badges... Finally found a company making 6 different Styles They have them for the Doors and Tailgate Found them on Ebay under 7.3L GODZILLA DECALS Badges
wish the max recline seats was a thing years ago. my 2018 F250 platinum i occasionally sleep out of it. but since the seats don't recline all the way back i endup using a bedroll or similar in the backseat with the seats folded up plenty of room. 2017-2019 i'm not sure if there are any diffrences. and most people see the platinum as highest trim anyways. when you say limited to someone they typically assume its just above a Lariat or something. i don't really dig the new body style though. might just get a hold of the max recline seats and throw them in my 2018.
Right. Getting 8k off sticker for an 80k truck used to be normal… now you pay MSRP and that price is way up. I built the same truck in 2019 and just recently for an XL and the price went from 49k to 56k and that’s their base level trim.
@@ghostmofo5829 I know it seems crazy but that’s the price they were in 19/20 ish I don’t remember exactly the month but it was just months before the inflation explosion happened
So are the over 53k super duty trucks needing chips in Kentucky going to be sold as used? If so when? How can Ford release 2023s prior to the 2022s get fully built?
@@ShersGarage Banks will not be able to give a new car loan rate on a 2022 when 2023s are available. According to what my friend gave for his 22 Lariat, prices have already reached ridiculous new highs.
Appreciate the work you do for these videos. Would love to have that document as there's just so much on these things I do NOT even want, MUCH LESS want to pay for. If living in the DFW (Texas) what's the charge to buy from you? Would love to pay you for essentially the work you've done vs someone else assuming price point is competitive.
I'm waiting until they release the full spec sheet of towing capacities and payload capacities before i buy. I want to see the difference between the 6.8L and 7.3L and the f250 and the f350.
Why is Ford forcing you to get the HO diesel if you want the Tremor Package with the diesel option??? You can’t get the current 6.7 with the Tremor Package anymore. Will you be able to in the future? It’s pretty ridiculous that if you want a diesel with the Tremor they are forcing you to pay an additional $2500 when there is no reason whatsoever you couldn’t get the normal 6.7 diesel like before.
Probably not. My super duty was built mid September and there is no delivery date in sight! So I’m figuring mine is buried somewhere in that speedway as well .. very frustrating to say the least. This is the first time in my life that I have custom ordered a vehicle and I will never do it again. In fact a friend of mine works for AT&T in Louisville and he says that there are super duty stored all over that town including the airport.
I work for a supplier that makes components for Superduty’s. Here is the skinny: In order to not idle the assembly line, Ford is assembling trucks that are missing what is considered minor components or add ons such as a Ford Badge or a spray in bed liner. The trucks roll of the line and skip quality control sampling. They are then stored out of doors until the parts arrive. When the parts arrive, outside contract temp workers are then used to put on the parts to avoid union labor. Once completed and the trucks are marked for shipment. Once again, quality control sampling is avoided. Get the picture? Ford will be assembling and shipping 2022’s until mid January of 2023. So if you have an order for a 2022 you could still get it by Jan or later depending on method of shipment. When you get it I would function check every feature and component before you accept. Warranty work is completed at the convenience of the dealer, not your convenience.
@@dieseldan5189 that is great information. Thanks. Doesn’t make me feel warm and fuzzy on my 2022 king ranch I’m still waiting for that was built a month ago.
I had seen a video on CZcams for the that “Outdoors with the Morgan’s” had done about a month ago showing all the trucks at KMS. I had ordered a 2021 F150 at the beginning of this madness, but told the dealer to just forget it. I like not having a truck payment a lot better anyway. If I had to pick a new truck right now it would be a 2014 F150 CC 5.0 4x4. Those are great trucks.
@@skoffco it will work out lot better. No companies, large or small, intentionally try to hurt their customer bases. Ford will do their utmost best. Supply side is improving. If you want to blame, blame the American work ethics and culture. If this was a Korean Company in Korea, they will work 24 hours a day to speed up the assembly line. What percentage of white do you see working lots O/T and weekends compare to many Asians. I put my order in for 2023 F450 Limited on Oct 28th and got the email confirmation from Ford on 30th. I am shooting to get it around April 2023.
Great video do I understand correctly that the 5th wheel prep package will slow the order down possibly. Should I take it off ? I do want the truck asap lol
Great video, much appreciated. Ford's configurator on the website needs work (as always). Lariat doesn't show half of options it should be, lol... including Crew Cab!
For the f250 xlt, 7.3 w 4.30 rear and Tremor package, how do I get front led headlights and fogs? I don’t want sport or premium packages. Box lights and cab markers are led. Will a dealer install led headlights/fog before delivery?
Great review. Plus very good to know you sell at MSRP. I have been looking at Real deal Neal videos in Georgia at Akins Ford. Have not spoke to them yet. I like the customizations they do. I would order a 2023 super duty Tremor in platinum trim with the 6.7 H.O. diesel. I would have to sell my vehicle first before I order a new super duty. Dealerships do not pay enough. My new super duty is up on 40 inch tires.
Can you order 2 tone paint? My current KR edition has 2 tone and everyone, including myself, LOVES this truck......... I would like to try and get the same coloring that way, I don't have to repaint my bumper(s).........Hoping they will fit coming from a 2017 F259 Also, seat Massagers. My help due to my wife's hip and my 2 spinal surgeries..... Brother had his truck stolen (they actually recovered it) in San Antonio. They parked the truck and were given wrong room. He went out to get the truck and move closer to his room. The truck was GONE!!!!
6.2 was super duty first, then f150 as the top engine (remember the 150 and SD shared an engine, i miss those days). Raptor launched to disappointing sales with the 5.4 initially, 6.2 came the next model year and sales increased from some viral CZcams videos and ford dealer ride and drive events across the country.
Great advice. If you really want the new super duty, order the one you don't really want just so you can get it sooner. If I'm paying new truck money, it's going to be exactly what I want.
100%
Guess you don't get a new truck every year...
...order the one I DON'T want?????? to get it sooner?????
THANK YOU for being the ONLY person to explain the crew cab / super crew cab difference clearlyer than anyone else !!
Just picked up my 6.7 F250 Lariat with Ultimate Package and cannot be more pleased. The look, ride, power output, technology, is just unbelievable. While super expensive, I think it should last me 15 good years. Picked up the unlimited year 150k mile bumper to bumper warranty as well. Beautiful and amazing truck.
It better be
Thanks Mitchell. Strong work… I’ll be seeing you guys when specs are published💪🏼🇺🇸
I drive a Platinum 350 SRW and have a snowplow to push for the state. The max recline seat is gonna be heaven when I'm out on duty for 36 hours straight!!
I love everything about these new trucks, but was already at my ceiling when I bought my 2020 6.7. Glad I'm not in the market now. Same for same, a similar new XLT is now nearly $80k vs my sticker at $65k (which I got for $58k). Those times seem to be gone. Have fun folks. I used to upgrade on a fairly regular basis, but I'm already calling this my last truck purchase.
Ain't even in the market for a F250 and by the time you said you'll sell at MSRP you won me over. Nothing but the best for the honest folks at your business and anyone that doesn't adhere to the insane markups that dealerships are dropping into already expensive vehicles.
You’re happy to pay MSRP? Just be patient and do your research because you can still get below MSRP. There are dealers giving anywhere between 2000-5000 below MSRP if ordered through them.
@@85mackey1 I've seen trucks going 9k bellow sticker for sure, but MSRP is as high as I'll.
Just to let you know, I ordered a 2023 F-350 Lariat Crew Cab, short bed, with everything that could be installed. I got the 6.7 HO. The order was place on April 7, 2023. Ford notified me on April 22 that the truck had been scheduled for production with a build date of May 5, 2023. This truck was ordered in Southern California. I am waiting for the notification that the build was done today. I will let you know.
I ordered a F450 Platinum in October the day the banks open and still is not in production
I work at a Ford supplier where we supply components for the Super Duty. Ford will be assembling and shipping 2022 SD’s from Louisville until the middle of Jan due to the parts shortages. 2023 models will not even start production until Feb since it is a platform change. Don’t hold your breath.
I'll wait till 24 or 25 to get a new one. I want to see the kinks worked out of the HO 6.7 before I spend 100K.
As always an informative video from Mitchell, however considering what Ford will charge for these trucks, customers should be able to order them in the configuration they want and not what’s easiest for Ford to build, the advantage of a Job 2 truck is that (hopefully) any production issues with the job 1’s should be resolved before they start job 2 production, reducing recalls, which going on Ford’s recent efforts, might be the way to go, plus I would like to see what sort of numbers the trucks are putting out for payload, towing and engine etc before placing an order, as annoying as it is to have to wait a long time for a new truck, I would rather get something I really want than to settle for what they can produce quickly
I ready to order the new 2023 super duty thank for the video
I attempted to order a 2023 yesterday at Stokes Hodge Ford in Graniteville SC. I was immediately presented a $10,000 markup so I walked out. Interest rates are going up fast so be careful where you order. FInance rates will likely be close to 8-10% by the spring of next year. That will add a couple hundred dollars or more to your payment. Also, your trade in will no longer be appreciating but depreciating. Once again, be careful with your expectations.
I'm NEVER paying MSRP plus anything.
I always walk out too when they mark up the price. It's complete BS and the government does nothing about. I know Ram and Chevy also mark up but Ford is the worst
@@georgekatsinis5224 I miss the pre-scamdemic days when you could actually buy a vehicle for under MSRP!
That sucks my dealer is under MSRP
I got 6500 off on upper trim lariat.
Thanks Mitchell for always keeping us informed
I just purchased a 24 XLT with the premium package, FX 4 off road package and it had the B&O system, long story short I had a 23 F350 that ended up being a lemon 1500 miles and no one could figure out a charging system fault, dropped off at dealer April 03, 2024 declared a lemon I went through the whole Ford buy back program as well, decided to get another Ford the one I got I believe was a custom order that was never picked up cause it was nowhere listed for sale. Anyway tons of options, a crew cab with the 8 foot bed as well, not that I was looking for that but it had it and it was not a deal breaker, plus if you order it the 8 foot bed is only like 200 dollar difference. Again thanks for posting
Ford steps on their bag again! You need that converting console to a desktop for the Super Duties too! and while you're at it make Blue Cruise available for the Super Duties.
Go ahead and order one. Just good luck getting the damn thing. Waiting 9 months for my 2022 F-350 King Ranch. Now the 2023 are coming out. Going back to GMC. The step in the front of the bed is as useless as, well you know what. Step in it and lean on the bed, belt buckle scratches the bed or you get stuff on the bed from you clothing. Rear step is great.
Great looking truck and a great video. There is quite a bit of hype around the 40K gooseneck tow capacity which I find somewhat irrelevant since you have to give up quite a bit to reduce weight and meet that capacity. Sure it is awesome, however, three of the options you are giving up are the spare tire which is essential for traveling long distances, it has to be a 4x2, and also a regular cab. Basically, this capacity can only be met in the XL package since all the others are standard 4x4, and I don't see very many investing in an F450 that is only two-wheel drive and a regular cab. unless they opt. for a cab chassis configuration with a short flatbed. In my opinion, don't focus on the 40K lbs. when purchasing a truck as the standard 32,500 lbs. towing capacity in the F450 Crew Cab 4x4 configuration in 2019 has only increased to 32,600 lbs capacity for 2020 thru 2023 which is sufficient for most. The 6.7 and 6.7 HP option does not change this capacity. And towing large loads with a shorter wheelbase is not as comfortable as having a longer wheelbase, especially during long distances. Sure it is a great claim but probably won't sell very many of the required packages. I have a 2020 F450 4x4 Superduty XLT Crew Cab, 8' Box with the 6.7l and a CGVW of 43,500 lbs. I haul a 5th-wheel trailer, also gooseneck cattle trailer, and a very large flatbed hay trailer. Fully loaded and have not come within a ton of the CGVW, Payload, or Tow capacity. As mentioned in the video, I would opt for the popular crew cab 4x4 6 and 3/4 box or bump up to the 8'box for extra clearance if you do a lot of hauling.
Been considering moving into F250, this video has been invaluable. Ford Product Managers and Marketers, take note, this video is how to take this F150 from consideration to conversion.
Super well done - wish I was closer to your dealer. Sadly it looks like it'll be along time before my truck arrives - I'm basically ordering every single item you said will take forever. Heading to local dealer tomorrow. Thanks for producing this.
These videos are incredible. With that being said I have no intention of buying a new truck. I'm happy with my paid off 2011 f150 5.0 4x4.
Just ordered my 450 Lariat with H.O 6.7 , Ultimate package and a few other small options today. From what I understand, today was the last day for pre-order before they close the ordering window. Great video btw...
Great video. Best one so far for the 2023 I have seen!
So glad that Ford watches your videos, that said Ford, as a 2018 F150 XL STX appearance package very satisfied owner please continue the STX option going forward as I will definitely go with that package in the future. Thanks so much. (:
Side badge vents are operational .
So I guess I’ll be ordering a XLT sport appearance package and the Ultimate package, with a 7.3L and 4:30 gears. It sounds like the perfect truck. Everything i want and nothing I don’t. 👌
I purchased a brand new 2020 F250 with the 7.3 L gas. It's a beautiful truck, the engine is strong and it was much less money than a new diesel. BUT, I would never buy it again. I get 7.9 mpg around town, not towing. And 6.2 mpg towing 6200 lbs. And the 10-speed transmission has had nothing but problems/ malfunctions ever since it was new. I don't mean to be negative, but this is a real world review
@@jeffreyrogers8151 I appreciate the insight.
I was looking at a 2021 Tremor with the 7.3 gas. Glad I couldn’t find it with those MPG numbers.
Thanks for all the information. Very good video!
My dad just ordered a f350 long bed lariat his first new truck since his 2005 f350 he still has. It will definitely be an upgrade. As for me I’m sticking with my 2005 f350 diesel I can’t justify the payment or the unreliability of the diesel emissions
Man I am definitely interested in you to ordere me a 3500 Limited Edition 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💪🏾 I'll WAIT 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ until 2024 to get my truck.
Just wanted to share that I drove my bronco to off roadeo Texas and just got through awesome experience thanks again he told me to be sure and tell y’all to tell everyone to come!!!
I’m up in Ohio. I’m tempted to order through you all and pickup when in. None of the dealers around here have the same passion and knowledge..
I'd like to start by saying even though I don't live in Alabama, I wish there was someone like you here to be so honest and helpful. Considering still reaching out to you instead of the Ford dealers here. You made me GENUINELY more excited for the 2023, but now as we get deeper into customization, I'm just entirely bummed out by this truck again. It's a love hate relationship, really.
I've been looking at the 2022 seeing what packages I want, and I was hoping that they transferred the availability over to the 2023 year. 2023 is the model I'll have to order (I'm much displeased by it as you'll be able to tell), and it's got to be a DRW, 4.10 limited slip, Diesel engine, and it's got to look nice to drive as my sole transport outside of heavy work. Ford just doesn't seem interested in selling their DRWs. I'm interested in a sport package, but I'll need the power and the capability of a DRW to move cattle. They're just putting too many requirements to their packages, even if it's due to availability. I don't want to have to aftermarket my truck because I'm unhappy with all the blazing chrome when I'd rather prefer a more "sport" style (I'd already be spending enough money as it is!).
Last year's 2022 XLT F350 was capable of 35,000 pounds gooseneck towing in either 4x2 or 4x4, so long as it came with DRWs, a 4.10 limited slip axle ratio, and a 6.7L v8 Turbo. You could get basically everything on a Lariat, except LED headlights, put on an XLT. Now, you go to their website, (which isn't the best since the 2023 is still early development) but you don't see the Premium XLT package, you don't get some of the quality like a moon roof, and they deleted Sync3 with voice navigation out of the XLT. Yes, you can get Sync4 optional on the XL and XLT, but only for an 8" screen that doesn't include voice activated navigation, which I'd have to get a Lariat for.
Really, my slogan since I've seen the 2023 has been "I like the box, slap a 2022 cab in front". Maybe it's just because I haven't spoken to a dealer as the ones around here try selling you things you don't need, but if I really had someone to talk with about all this we'd find a solution.
i believe the reason for these big delays on these vehicles and many others is cause of the chip shortage, the chip shortage was the money wrench thrown into our system period.
I hate that some options require whole packages or certain trim levels.
I'd be happy with crank windows and mostly basic if I could get the adaptive cruise and ac seats. Adaptive cruise is one of those things that doesn't really matter until you have had it, but once you use it on a long drive you'll miss it when it's gone.
The system in our van let's you set it and it keeps the distance you select from the car in front of you. It works all the way to 0mph and will accelerate to whatever speed is set. It's great in heavy traffic that's constantly slowing down and speeding up.
Yeah but the question is is would you be willing to pay more to have crank windows? Yes more!
due to production and efficiencies it costs more to put crank windows on a truck than it does power windows
Some manufacturers agree! Our Hyundai Tucson (not a truck wife's car) has standard features that convinced us to make the purchase . once you have lane assist and adaptive cruise control it's challenging to drive without it. These will be as standard as airbags before you know it!
I would like manual transmission, windows and locks and be as simple as possible options wise with A/C seats.
Been waiting for this video for a long time. GREAT JOB Sir!
You are an amazing sales agent, I almost got sold on the 350 crew cab package but need to wait for the price, sorry .
Great information, quick and lots of it, good job!!
Great video…only thing it didn’t tell was how to convince my wife to let me trade my 2020 super duty for a 2023 😂
Finally got my Bronco after two years. Originally wanted a Badlands but when I reordered in October 21 I went with the Black Diamond with fewer options but at least I go the hardtop and a tow package. We did the Off Roadeo in MOAB in October, that was a great experience. I ordered a F150 a year ago this month and it still has not shown up. I started with the Lariat package but after I added some options I realized I was paying almost as much as the Platinum trim so I went with that. I got the window sticker back in August with a blend (build date) of early August. I guess that truck is sitting in some lot waiting for the last few parts. They had already deleted a number of my options. I will probably pass on it. How can they still call it a 2022. Dealer told me the same thing last year, now the time to get my order in. No big deal, I'm having fun with the Bronco.
I was eagerly awaiting the orders to open up, but now that I've seen the options and the delays, I think I'll just stick with my 2019 F450.
Great video and thanks for your time.
Great work as always. You guys might be worth the drive up from Jacksonville. Hopefully they bring the blue back though.
F350 Lariat Ultimate DRW, $86,000. Limited, well over $100,000. Need to take out a 10 year loan on these things.
Ford is watching
Mitchell,Can you get the 2000 pro power on the lariat level
Upfitter switches... If the truck doesn't have em, don't get it... Those are an absolute MUST, even if you don't THINK you're gonna need em... It's a $75 option that costs around $1500 to add later on.. Just do yourself a favor and pay the $75 to get em from the factory...
any update when they will fix their website ordering? lack of images, lack of descriptions and even missing items
I don’t understand how they can come out with a new superduty when there’s so many sitting in lots with no chips….but yet built some of these new ones with chips that should’ve been allocated to other peoples trucks that have been sitting in the speedway forever…
They will get it all out in next 90 days.
I'm guessing that they got around that. I figured at some point that they would. And when the chips finally get installed. They get them taken care of asap. Makes sense to me. And yet it could be something totally different. I'm not concerned. They had to come up with something.
Most dealers are ordering up to $7000 below MSRP.
My order is placed... been placed since october...October....!! I better get it before the upper trim levels... Ford was ready to take my order. They took it!! They said the order banks are open! They delayed it several times... NOW THEY CAN'T DELIVER! I do not want to sacrifice on things I want... for the price I'm paying to do things trucks do!!! they should price living their pre-orders since they can't deliver in a timely fashion.. Ford is passing me off and they need to show appreciation to their fan base.
If you’re really selling at MSRP, and can find me an F-150 Lariat w/ the high Tremor package or King Ranch, Platinum with the 5.0L, I’ll drive from Louisiana to buy it from you. Tired of the dealers adding a 5% or more “vehicle shortage fee” to trucks.
Seems like price gouging to me. Regardless it will come back to bite them in the long run.
6'3 booyah 👊😁👍🇺🇲
I'm in a the super duty rattler
Question...can you get a "black appearance package" on a Platnium model???
Wish here in wa state there was msrp pricing
Do they still offer a snow Plow prep package
All I have to say is hoping by 2025 things get back to normal on vehicles. I usually traded every 3 or 4 years and was ready to ditch the 2018 F150 Platinum for the 2023 F350. I was about to hit retirement and wanted to upgrade to pull a 5th wheel. Looks like I will be keeping my current truck for 7 or 8 years as I am not "upgrading" to take less features such as the missing contour seats, heated steering, etc. RV dealers are going to start going hungry because nobody can get a truck if they want a larger RV.
I ordered my 2022 F-350 on 12/1/2021 and still don't have it. They tell me that it shipped last week and that it will be at the dealer here in NW Illinois next week...more than 11 months later.
@@METALITHrevetments what trim and options held it up? F450 i assume?
@@superduty2023 F-350 SRW Lariat Ultimate Tremor 7.3L
Better save your nickels pops....given where this country is headed, towing a camper trailer will be the least of your problems if President Trump doesn't get back into the WH in 2025!!!
@@METALITHrevetments did it have spray in bed liner or 5th wheel prep? Or what option held it up so long
Awesome video as always!!!!
What is the lowest trim level or package that includes LED headlights?
How are we supposed to decide what engine to get if Ford hasn’t released those numbers yet ?
shhhhhhh (puts chloroform rag over your mouth)
500hp and 1200ftlbs on the high output, same as last years numbers for the regular powerstrokes, 7.3 get a bump in torque to 485 and the new 6.8 is like 405hp 445 torque
If you read the towing, it's 40,000 lbs on the higher end, so I would get the high output Diesel for any dually or large tow config and get the Gas HO for any F250/F350 Tremor package which is much better for off-road use!
If you order a Tremor package, see if you can get the dealer to put on 35 or 37 inch Goodyear Duratracs or Nitto EXO Grappler tires. Those larger 3-peak winter rated tires will DEFINITELY make a difference, especially if you are in the Northern mountain States such as Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana or in the supercold midwest and northeast heavy snow winter states (Wisconsin, Illinois, Mighigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Vermont, Maine, upper New York, etc.)
35's fit easily but 37's need a bit of a wheel-well mod or an extra one to two inch lift!
One thing I would DEFINITELY DO on any one of your purchases is do a spray-on coating of Line-X brand truck bed liner on the ENTIRE underbody, wheels wells, other underbody exposed parts such as teh entire ladder frame, drive shafts and transfer case and even on all the engine bay walls to prevent road salt and salt-water corrosion on your expensive new truck! The thicker coats of Line-X even help with road noise mitigation!
v
I'm talking to my dealer saying the same thing.
@@freedomisntfree_44 Negative, the regular Powerstroke is getting an increase in HP and TQ. The HO will be higher than you stated.
You gents might be worth the drive over.
I had no clue how to order one until I saw this video
Good video, quick and to the point. Helps answer some questions.
7.3L GODZILLA Emblem Decals Badges...
Finally found a company making 6 different Styles
They have them for the Doors and Tailgate
Found them on Ebay under
7.3L GODZILLA DECALS Badges
wish the max recline seats was a thing years ago. my 2018 F250 platinum i occasionally sleep out of it. but since the seats don't recline all the way back i endup using a bedroll or similar in the backseat with the seats folded up plenty of room. 2017-2019 i'm not sure if there are any diffrences. and most people see the platinum as highest trim anyways. when you say limited to someone they typically assume its just above a Lariat or something. i don't really dig the new body style though. might just get a hold of the max recline seats and throw them in my 2018.
Are you able to order a F350 tremor with the ultimate and sport package? Will it be job 1 still?
How do know they won’t ship a 22 after they get the electronics to finish them
These prices have gone completely insane!! Up 20k for a platinum lol
Wrong
Right. Getting 8k off sticker for an 80k truck used to be normal… now you pay MSRP and that price is way up. I built the same truck in 2019 and just recently for an XL and the price went from 49k to 56k and that’s their base level trim.
@@ghostmofo5829 definitely not wrong. I built one during COVID and it was 74k for a power stroke and 77 for a tremor platinum
@@jmart5302 Tremors for 77k?
Tell everyone else what other dreams you had.
@@ghostmofo5829 I know it seems crazy but that’s the price they were in 19/20 ish I don’t remember exactly the month but it was just months before the inflation explosion happened
So glad ford decided to put 4xt standard on XLT and above
I don’t see the Sports Appearance Package or Black Out Package.
Could you provide more information on the B&W 5th wheel option without needing the prep package?
When we order from your dealership, you said we will not pay a penny more than MSRP!! How much LESS can we pay under MSRP?!!!
So are the over 53k super duty trucks needing chips in Kentucky going to be sold as used? If so when? How can Ford release 2023s prior to the 2022s get fully built?
Those won't be sold as used. People still will buy them in 2022. Not everyone wants a 2023, especially with price increases.
@@ShersGarage Banks will not be able to give a new car loan rate on a 2022 when 2023s are available. According to what my friend gave for his 22 Lariat, prices have already reached ridiculous new highs.
@@littlefinkle7757 some banks will go few years back. Some look wether it was titled or not. Just depends on the bank.
@@littlefinkle7757 Wrong. "New" means it's never been sold (titled) before, not "it's the current model being produced".
Appreciate the work you do for these videos.
Would love to have that document as there's just so much on these things I do NOT even want, MUCH LESS want to pay for.
If living in the DFW (Texas) what's the charge to buy from you? Would love to pay you for essentially the work you've done vs someone else assuming price point is competitive.
My neighbor is a transporter, when do the wheels turn sideways so it flies like a drone ? Sic having cams in the doors..
Do you price protect for the price at the time of ordering?
Yes price protection because you still need to go through a dealership.
I'm waiting until they release the full spec sheet of towing capacities and payload capacities before i buy. I want to see the difference between the 6.8L and 7.3L and the f250 and the f350.
Lol I called my dealer to order a King Ranch and they said you can't order any trim level over a Lariat for a year
Why is Ford forcing you to get the HO diesel if you want the Tremor Package with the diesel option??? You can’t get the current 6.7 with the Tremor Package anymore. Will you be able to in the future? It’s pretty ridiculous that if you want a diesel with the Tremor they are forcing you to pay an additional $2500 when there is no reason whatsoever you couldn’t get the normal 6.7 diesel like before.
Will an xlt with sport appearance package finally be available with the black sport cloth seats with power and heat?
How about the 30-40k 2022 Super Duties that were stored Kentucky Speedway about a month ago. Have they been delivered to dealers yet?
Probably not. My super duty was built mid September and there is no delivery date in sight! So I’m figuring mine is buried somewhere in that speedway as well .. very frustrating to say the least. This is the first time in my life that I have custom ordered a vehicle and I will never do it again. In fact a friend of mine works for AT&T in Louisville and he says that there are super duty stored all over that town including the airport.
I work for a supplier that makes components for Superduty’s. Here is the skinny: In order to not idle the assembly line, Ford is assembling trucks that are missing what is considered minor components or add ons such as a Ford Badge or a spray in bed liner. The trucks roll of the line and skip quality control sampling. They are then stored out of doors until the parts arrive. When the parts arrive, outside contract temp workers are then used to put on the parts to avoid union labor. Once completed and the trucks are marked for shipment. Once again, quality control sampling is avoided. Get the picture? Ford will be assembling and shipping 2022’s until mid January of 2023. So if you have an order for a 2022 you could still get it by Jan or later depending on method of shipment. When you get it I would function check every feature and component before you accept. Warranty work is completed at the convenience of the dealer, not your convenience.
@@dieseldan5189 that is great information. Thanks. Doesn’t make me feel warm and fuzzy on my 2022 king ranch I’m still waiting for that was built a month ago.
I had seen a video on CZcams for the that “Outdoors with the Morgan’s” had done about a month ago showing all the trucks at KMS. I had ordered a 2021 F150 at the beginning of this madness, but told the dealer to just forget it. I like not having a truck payment a lot better anyway. If I had to pick a new truck right now it would be a 2014 F150 CC 5.0 4x4. Those are great trucks.
@@skoffco it will work out lot better. No companies, large or small, intentionally try to hurt their customer bases. Ford will do their utmost best. Supply side is improving. If you want to blame, blame the American work ethics and culture. If this was a Korean Company in Korea, they will work 24 hours a day to speed up the assembly line. What percentage of white do you see working lots O/T and weekends compare to many Asians. I put my order in for 2023 F450 Limited on Oct 28th and got the email confirmation from Ford on 30th. I am shooting to get it around April 2023.
Awesome video
Great video
Great video do I understand correctly that the 5th wheel prep package will slow the order down possibly. Should I take it off ? I do want the truck asap lol
Great video, much appreciated. Ford's configurator on the website needs work (as always). Lariat doesn't show half of options it should be, lol... including Crew Cab!
great vid, I would like t know if I could order a new truck using my ford employee pricing
Is the 24 F250 platinum a job two as well, or a job one?
For the f250 xlt, 7.3 w 4.30 rear and Tremor package, how do I get front led headlights and fogs? I don’t want sport or premium packages. Box lights and cab markers are led. Will a dealer install led headlights/fog before delivery?
Great vid. “Cheapest” way to get led headlights on Xlt? Couldn’t find on ford’s configurator. Thanks!
They’ve added sport appearance package on configurator.
Great review.
Plus very good to know you sell at MSRP.
I have been looking at Real deal Neal videos in Georgia at Akins Ford.
Have not spoke to them yet.
I like the customizations they do.
I would order a 2023 super duty Tremor in platinum trim with the 6.7 H.O. diesel.
I would have to sell my vehicle first before I order a new super duty.
Dealerships do not pay enough.
My new super duty is up on 40 inch tires.
Apple Ford in Apple Valley MN was doing invoice on 22 orders. Not sure about 23 though. Get with Joe Murphy
So you know you can’t get the tremor package in the XLT trim
Can I order an F350 single rear wheel 7.3 gas crew cab long bed with the 12400 GVRW?
What is the lowest trim level that you can get the projector beam LED’s headlights on?
What is the base MSRP on a 2023 F-250 Super Duty XLT Super Crew Cab?
Do you believe ford will keep both diesels? It doesn’t really make sense to keep both.
what option would the smart hitch/scales be under i couldn't find it on any build options?
I wanted a 6.2 L this year for my needs. Bummer! ✌️🇺🇲
When can we start ordering with YOU? Thanks
Wow, very thorough.
Ordered a 2023 F-250 Lariet super cab on 11-2-22 my dealer told me delivery would be May-June 2023 we shall see?????
Can you order 2 tone paint? My current KR edition has 2 tone and everyone, including myself, LOVES this truck.........
I would like to try and get the same coloring that way, I don't have to repaint my bumper(s).........Hoping they will fit coming from a 2017 F259
Also, seat Massagers. My help due to my wife's hip and my 2 spinal surgeries.....
Brother had his truck stolen (they actually recovered it) in San Antonio. They parked the truck and were given wrong room. He went out to get the truck and move closer to his room. The truck was GONE!!!!
6.2 was super duty first, then f150 as the top engine (remember the 150 and SD shared an engine, i miss those days).
Raptor launched to disappointing sales with the 5.4 initially, 6.2 came the next model year and sales increased from some viral CZcams videos and ford dealer ride and drive events across the country.
Wow this is all wrong lol..
You can't get a 2010 Super duty with a 6.2. You can get a 2010 raptor with a 6.2
@@drew4769 I mean but you can have a February 2010 built super duty with a 6.2 so even though it says 2011 on the side it's not really 2011
@@duramaxadventures5832 so? You said superduty had the 6.2 before the raptor when it clearly didn't
Where's the link to the ordering guide?
HO Platinums only!