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  • @jolssoni2499
    @jolssoni2499 Před 4 lety +528

    1:32 "The way Jund generally wins is by throwing money at the opponent until they concede."

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 4 lety +133

      Show me the lie.

    • @PeteOnTheBeat
      @PeteOnTheBeat Před 4 lety +9

      @@TolarianCommunityCollege Bant Snow is the new Jund

    • @Teifling
      @Teifling Před 4 lety +34

      Jund is essentially Seto Kaiba, Planeswalker.

    • @jokerj2302
      @jokerj2302 Před 4 lety +4

      Blame WOTC reprint policy for cards being that expensive in the first place not the player who has to pay.

    • @pyraastarte9609
      @pyraastarte9609 Před 4 lety +4

      @@jokerj2302 "has to pay" nah just don't be a sheep lol

  • @Hadesdrew
    @Hadesdrew Před 4 lety +104

    Please do more of these explaining other common Modern decks.

    • @araamahasla555
      @araamahasla555 Před 4 lety

      Other?

    • @cuddlycard9059
      @cuddlycard9059 Před 4 lety +3

      Ara Amahasla Humans, Burn, RB midrange, Ponza, Ad Nauseam, Dice factory, Bogles, Neobrand, Death and taxes, etc......

    • @araamahasla555
      @araamahasla555 Před 4 lety

      @@cuddlycard9059 Specially for alternatively smart: the joke is that all the decks you named are unplayable.

    • @cuddlycard9059
      @cuddlycard9059 Před 4 lety

      Ara Amahasla right.

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Před 4 lety

      Cuddly Card Dice Factory?

  • @indianturdeau9117
    @indianturdeau9117 Před 4 lety +236

    every deck: Turn one thoughtsieze

    • @coltonschnepf471
      @coltonschnepf471 Před 4 lety +14

      Nah you’re confusing Modern with Pioneer

    • @amangonemad5117
      @amangonemad5117 Před 4 lety +8

      Or it happens in both. I wish we could ban that card. There shouldnt be auto includes

    • @juana.martingarcia9593
      @juana.martingarcia9593 Před 4 lety +17

      @@amangonemad5117 Lol. Of all things in Modern you choose to complain about Thoughseize.

    • @antieverything1
      @antieverything1 Před 4 lety +6

      one-for-one is Magic as Richard Garfield intended.

    • @bobby45825
      @bobby45825 Před 4 lety +7

      @@amangonemad5117 One of the fairest cards in the format and you're calling for a ban? Wowwee. So the tron lands are good to go? 3 lands 7 mana? What about cards like blood moon, ensnaring bridge, or chalice of the void? Still totally fine?

  • @tappytoeclaws2233
    @tappytoeclaws2233 Před 4 lety +107

    I think you've missed the most obvious ways to be good at Modern: Either wear a really nice suit or a shirt with your own face on it. Pretty sure those are the only options for the outfit meta right now.

  • @Camo2102
    @Camo2102 Před 4 lety +44

    Two "little" things that I think you missed:
    - WHIRZA: Thopter Foundry also give infinite life during the combo, dealing with the thopters would be possible but not enough to win against this deck.
    - INFECT: Noble Hierarch is mainly played because of the exalted ability that hugely help the game plan, you mention her for the mana but Birds of Paradise would not be nearly as effective.

  • @irwanfaizal9558
    @irwanfaizal9558 Před 4 lety +140

    You tell them prof, merfolk's rules!

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 4 lety +28

      Darn tootin'!

    • @Tryo707
      @Tryo707 Před 4 lety +1

      @@TolarianCommunityCollege I was about to complain that Fish got no respect, good thing I waited until the video concluded.

  • @Dattebayo778
    @Dattebayo778 Před 4 lety +47

    I think you missed the most important one: “Avoid random ban”.

  • @josephs.4813
    @josephs.4813 Před 4 lety +7

    I’ve been waiting for your next upload Prof. Thank you for continuing to upload during these difficult times. We all really appreciate it!

  • @joshuameyer2461
    @joshuameyer2461 Před 4 lety +12

    This was an awesome Deck Tech. Especially for a player like myself who is less familiar with the modern staple decks. Would love to see more like this!

  • @yesac42
    @yesac42 Před 4 lety +3

    Yes! As a noob this is the kind of video I needed. Please do more like this with descriptions and how they are played.

  • @stevemont7022
    @stevemont7022 Před 4 lety +3

    One of my favorite TCC videos ever! What I would have given for an up to date version of this when I first discovered Modern. I think doing this style of video annually or more often than that would be a HUGE help to new players or even enfranchised players who aren't yet used to how quickly modern changes these days. Or if you wanna get real spicy maybe a Legacy version?

  • @end-er_1023
    @end-er_1023 Před 4 lety +4

    Thank you. First time seeing such a quick and detailed break down of the Modern Meta.

  • @Ize19
    @Ize19 Před 4 lety +6

    Hey, it's The Boss! Great to see you here Ben, I love the fact that my favorite Schmoedown player, also plays and makes content for my favorite game! Keep up the great work!

  • @slamuraijack
    @slamuraijack Před 4 lety +3

    I love videos like these! I'm a commander player, but I constantly am thinking about getting into Modern/Pioneer. The only issue is as soon as I see the price tag on a deck I want I realize I could probably build 1-3 commander decks from that cost :( Thanks for the great content Prof!

  • @timdornaus
    @timdornaus Před 4 lety +1

    for someone who has little to no idea what all these modern deck names mean this was super helpful

  • @FlawlessRythym
    @FlawlessRythym Před 4 lety +9

    9 MORE ways to win in Modern:
    UB Mill
    Vizier Druid
    Heliod Combo
    Elves
    Naya Burn
    UW Control (aka Board Wipe Tribal)
    Snow Pile
    Niv to Light
    8 Whack

  • @rileyusher8786
    @rileyusher8786 Před 4 lety

    Solid collaboration video =) love you professor!

  • @Devynwithawhy
    @Devynwithawhy Před 4 lety +1

    The prof has had quite the creativity spike in the past few months. I for one, am very happy

  • @urrinor
    @urrinor Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for this video Professor! I don't play Modern and despite knowing their names I only had a vague awareness of how those decks functioned.

  • @mudrahel.philosophovich
    @mudrahel.philosophovich Před 4 lety +1

    Perfect overview! Thanks!

  • @antieverything1
    @antieverything1 Před 4 lety

    Nice work, folks. That was a lot of fun!

  • @tempestandacomputer6951
    @tempestandacomputer6951 Před 4 lety +80

    First. Island. Sol Ring. Pass Turn. What do you mean we aren't playing commander?

    • @oom-3262
      @oom-3262 Před 4 lety +10

      I don't wanna get political but what the frick is modern

    • @MrChocolaaaa
      @MrChocolaaaa Před 4 lety +2

      Fun fact.....I did this when I went to my very first fnm, just wanted to play a game and felt that Sol Ring was pretty dece. I didn't even know what a format was back then.....

    • @tempestandacomputer6951
      @tempestandacomputer6951 Před 4 lety +7

      @@MrChocolaaaa My frustration when going from kitchen table to Modern was that all of a sudden i wasn't supposed to play Dark Ritual:/

    • @maximiliandemarco5869
      @maximiliandemarco5869 Před 4 lety +2

      Tempest and a Computer play legacy then my friend where we don’t get upset with you for playing dark ritual.

    • @sneakysquid9917
      @sneakysquid9917 Před 4 lety +1

      Mike same with me! I saw Metalwork Colossus and was like, “Sol Ring works great with this!” Bought 4 Sol Rings, 4 Mind Stones, and 4 Metalwork Colossus, and threw in some random draw spells I had. Consistently getting 3 colossi on turn 2/3 is, apparently, pretty dang busted

  • @txag007
    @txag007 Před 4 lety +18

    It makes me sad to see there was no Affinity deck review. RIP MOX OPAL. WE MISS YOU! :(

    • @FlawlessRythym
      @FlawlessRythym Před 4 lety +2

      I felt the same way about Izzet Phoenix and the loss of Faithless Looting... ):

    • @mangohub3252
      @mangohub3252 Před 3 lety

      @@EvlEgle mox Opal was banned but the real kill shot for the deck was when war of the spark karn was printed

    • @mangohub3252
      @mangohub3252 Před 3 lety

      @@EvlEgle yeah I know, I just mean robot affinity was done in by Karn even before the Opal was banned

  • @ncuco
    @ncuco Před 4 lety

    I understand how you feel Professor. I stand by my elf deck! Though it's a scales elf deck and not the traditional modern version but also has a turn 4 win (in a vacuum)

  • @arkifane
    @arkifane Před 3 lety

    This was a fantastic video!

  • @CCAndPinkie
    @CCAndPinkie Před 4 lety +2

    I’m wanting to get into Modern, so this is very helpful.

  • @roboticbychoice1081
    @roboticbychoice1081 Před 4 lety +5

    Loved this episode. Thanks, TCC! And keep up the great job!!

  • @sergiodomingo5304
    @sergiodomingo5304 Před 4 lety +1

    Really cool video, but it would be awesome if you go under the budget scenario and see what can be played into competitive scene (like fnm or ptq) with those decks, just for reference, in modern it should be 200$ or lower.
    .
    Love your videos prof!

  • @louiskemner3216
    @louiskemner3216 Před 4 lety

    any chance for a follow-up video with nine more decks? I hope to see Delver, which is a flexible aggro/tempo/control deck. I run Grixis Delver on MTGO

  • @JasonBRhoades
    @JasonBRhoades Před 4 lety +4

    Wait, IS merfolk doing well? I want to hear about that deck!

  • @FunPheonix
    @FunPheonix Před 4 lety

    I’d love to see this style of video for both pauper and legacy

  • @Darognarr
    @Darognarr Před 4 lety

    Professor! Professor! I have found a transport case that may be interesting to review for you. It is the Caseling Extra Large Hard Case (2 Row) for C. A. H. Card Game. I've found it on Amazon while I was browsing transport cases and it seems to be an interesting option for EDH decks or maybe even a cube! :) On the other hand, please, stay safe and healthy, the world needs the Professor as much as they need the Doctor.

  • @guimartgon
    @guimartgon Před 4 lety +1

    God the guys at the MMCast are fantastic GJ you three

  • @nicholasfarrell5981
    @nicholasfarrell5981 Před 4 lety

    One little nitpick, but Whirza tends to tap Sword of the Meek to pay for Thopter Foundry activations, not the tokens. That lets them reset their mana source whenever they use Foundry's ability.

  • @cleoh3
    @cleoh3 Před 3 lety +1

    I crushed merfolk into the ground the other day on MTGO and I thought of you, prof ;)

  • @ry7hym
    @ry7hym Před rokem

    great inspiration for pauper decks ;)

  • @ninomachadoelpropio9350

    Very educational! Thanks. What would you recommend to a Selesnyan player like me for modern? Thanks in advance! 👍

  • @fototryhard
    @fototryhard Před 4 lety +1

    You guys are awesome!

  • @elementalhero21
    @elementalhero21 Před 4 lety

    Great presentation, good job

  • @MrGorillafist
    @MrGorillafist Před 4 lety +1

    This was a fun video.

  • @bens9893
    @bens9893 Před 3 lety

    Where do you get the art in your office? I'd love to get a big print of mausoleum wanderer :)

  • @iangonzales2928
    @iangonzales2928 Před 4 lety +1

    Can't wait to see a Pioneer version of this (without Inverter please! I'm done hearing "I'll exile my library and play Thassa's Oracle")

    • @johnroyston3859
      @johnroyston3859 Před 4 lety

      This. I tried playing a few pioneer games with varies decks - mardu vehicles, niv to light, Naya aggro - and all that would happen is I'd just get cheesed out by dimir inverter. I even hit their Oracle/inverter with unmoored ego a couple times - didn't matter -.-

    • @iangonzales2928
      @iangonzales2928 Před 4 lety

      @@johnroyston3859 Try using Nimble Obstructionist from Amonkhet. It's a great card against Inverter that you can cycle to counter Thassa's Oracle's abilities.

  • @bastienclarke1810
    @bastienclarke1810 Před 4 lety +1

    Fun, I don’t play Modern, (too expensive), but it’s fun to see this!

  • @_daze
    @_daze Před 4 lety +16

    Modern By the Prof: OOOH BOIII, THAT HAS TO BE GOOD!!!

  • @1matzeplayer1
    @1matzeplayer1 Před 4 lety +1

    I'd love this for legacy!

  • @mastermike890
    @mastermike890 Před 4 lety

    This is an amazing video! Hope you guys revisit it maybe once a year or something

  • @justingolden2525
    @justingolden2525 Před 4 lety +1

    Is that former Movie Trivia Schmoedown Singles Champion Ben "The Boss" Bateman?!

  • @thefatfebruary1063
    @thefatfebruary1063 Před 4 lety +1

    nice video prof. i enyoed it even tho i dont play modern

  • @Dexelele
    @Dexelele Před 4 lety +3

    how do you go infinite with wrenn&six, savor the moment and mystic sanctuary?

    • @drm3ssivador
      @drm3ssivador Před 4 lety +3

      Wrenn & Six starts at 3 loyalty. +1 to get back a blue fetchland. Cast Savor the moment, play your fetchland.
      Fetch for Mystic Sanctuary, put Savor (or any extra turn effect) back on top of the library. Repeat this until you've exhausted all your Mystic Sanctuaries.
      With all 4 Sanctuaries, you get Wrenn & Six to 8 Loyalty so you can ult him and still have him on board.
      That way you can +1 to get back a land and use it to retrace an extra turn effect.

  • @ncuco
    @ncuco Před 4 lety

    Hello. I recently started Arena (quarentine) and though with casual play I usually ended in diamond, after this new set it seems 80% of decks are control (I play aggro in a variety of dif decks). Do you have a video with your personal insight on a 2 color aggro deck in standard? Number of lands, creatures. Average mana cost. How important are spells and removal. Of course all decks are different and I have made my own conclusions over time while playing, but I'd like a more professional (not casual) point of view so I can better deal with the overwhelminh amount of top tier control decks in the format. BTW, I usually don't run removal if I feel it takes away from the synergies I've developed and ido not use and avoid (when possible) cards that are dominant in the meta. So I have a boros, a gruul and a selesnya. All aggro (hero, pump, proliferate).
    You probably won't read this 🙄 but I hope so. Sorry for the long txt

  • @ChaosGodofDestruction
    @ChaosGodofDestruction Před 4 lety +3

    I just made that fires turns deck last week

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast Před 4 lety

      Its really fun. have been playing on MTGO since we recorded

  • @Drew_2308
    @Drew_2308 Před 4 lety

    you can tap sword of the meek for mana as well

  • @fallenangelsmusic4071
    @fallenangelsmusic4071 Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing

  • @graysonmclester9137
    @graysonmclester9137 Před 4 lety +2

    Sultai Crabvine is pretty fun too

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast Před 4 lety

      I love Sultai Crabvine to pieces.

  • @mudrahel.philosophovich

    Animation is wow!

  • @Sonnypuente
    @Sonnypuente Před 4 lety +3

    When can I go back to TCC?

  • @shelbyramin1376
    @shelbyramin1376 Před 4 lety +3

    That ending had me laughing. Love the vids yall.

  • @ncuco
    @ncuco Před 3 lety

    Really like this video
    I just don't see how my elf deck wouldn't beat all of these strategies xD as I go infinite on turn 4

  • @pablocastilla1176
    @pablocastilla1176 Před 4 lety

    Jonathon Choi did an amazing job!

  • @aslanpatience8278
    @aslanpatience8278 Před 3 lety

    @Tolarian Community College Prof you mentioned merfolk and then still didn't discuss it! 🥴 Otherwise great video more content like this please!

  • @wayfaringstranger5808
    @wayfaringstranger5808 Před 3 lety

    I want Professor's chair!!! Where can I get one?

  • @jeremiahclifford3272
    @jeremiahclifford3272 Před 4 lety +2

    With the last couple of sets all I've gotta say is "where's the love for merfolk wotc?"

    • @raonair
      @raonair Před 4 lety +2

      Ixalan/Rivals and Dominaria? Last sets I remember with good merfolk, but I think it's good enough

  • @drkatz1192
    @drkatz1192 Před 4 lety

    Will you ever do a spirits review???

  • @Jacetms1417
    @Jacetms1417 Před 4 lety

    How about grixis control in modern?

  • @alcazarfreddy
    @alcazarfreddy Před 4 lety

    Great video man! hhaha funny

  • @avizueta
    @avizueta Před 4 lety +1

    I wish you would have broken down the merfolk build

  • @simeonkrompart6517
    @simeonkrompart6517 Před 4 lety +1

    am i correct in saying that these are around A ans S tier decks? or a bit lower?

    • @alvarovieira5683
      @alvarovieira5683 Před 4 lety

      You are correct

    • @onionsnbananas1
      @onionsnbananas1 Před 4 lety +1

      Kind of, some of these lists are a bit out of date (probably recorded a while ago due to COVID), but a lot of these are still big players in modern mtggoldfish (www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#online) is a good way to get an idea of the modern meta.

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast Před 4 lety

      @@onionsnbananas1 Yeah, Partly just due to timing. And also us wanting to focus on Decks that have been top tier for a long period of time. Since they have survived multiple ever shifting meta games. It would make the video have more longevity.

  • @TheArcSet
    @TheArcSet Před 4 lety +1

    "But where is the jank?" :)
    Thanks for the video.

  • @alstoyle
    @alstoyle Před 4 lety +8

    "so what you're gonna do with this deck is thought size on turn one, pick ur nose turn 2, and then win turn 3" - me who plays shadow

  • @ianmaxie780
    @ianmaxie780 Před 4 lety

    Lol, OUAT is banned. What would I use as a substitute?

  • @CSDragon
    @CSDragon Před 4 lety

    Don't forget whatever Seth has just made flavor of the week!

  • @leeacher2k
    @leeacher2k Před 4 lety

    Anyone else notice that they said seven ways in the video, but it's actually nine? Also would like to hear about this MerFolk deck.

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast Před 4 lety

      We broke down 7 established decks. But open with a newer list. And Close with a joke about merfolk. A deck that is sadly the but of a lot of jokes. And Also Prof's favorite.

  • @giancarlofernandez9521
    @giancarlofernandez9521 Před 4 lety +1

    THE BOYSSSS

  • @jeffersonpereiradasilva6936

    Very good vídeo

  • @mmorkinism
    @mmorkinism Před 4 lety +1

    Jund list 61, infect 58 cards maindeck?

  • @samuelruder3117
    @samuelruder3117 Před 2 lety

    At 9:23 why does it sound like it’s auto tuned?? I mean it’s bot bad I just don’t get it.

  • @j.m.3600
    @j.m.3600 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. No love for my precious R/G Midrange which is miraculously more highly represented than infect currently. I swear the deck gets no attention on youtube, is it just because it's not super interesting?

  • @Requaero
    @Requaero Před 4 lety +1

    Wait, in the "inventing turns" deck, you need some way to move Mystic Sanctuary from the battlefield to the graveyard, so that W6 can recur it. Did they skip over that, or am I missing something?

    • @agent23n
      @agent23n Před 4 lety +2

      Requaero if it’s anything like the normal taking turns deck, it doesn’t loop until late game, it just chains turns like savor the moment or timewarp until you get enough incremental value and card draw to just play extra turns for the rest of the game.

    • @drm3ssivador
      @drm3ssivador Před 4 lety +2

      They skipped over some stuff, yes. The gist of it is you're actually recurring fetchlands to get your mystic sanctuaries out of the deck and with all 4 of them + an extra turn effect in hand, you can get to ult W&6 when he has 8 loyalty and use him to retrace extra turn effects for the rest of the game.

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast Před 4 lety

      @@drm3ssivador THis!

  • @mihu6832
    @mihu6832 Před 4 lety

    Need a video with best budget modern deck

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast Před 4 lety

      czcams.com/video/icbOPv5Yn-k/video.html

  • @dahbagels
    @dahbagels Před 4 lety

    Infect deck only has 58 cards in the main deck?
    I love the intro but am not sure if I'm missing something.

    • @adavidavis2762
      @adavidavis2762 Před 4 lety

      They must have missed something, here is a slightly more legal list ;) :
      www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-infect-87060#paper

  • @WarriorFromV4LH4LL4
    @WarriorFromV4LH4LL4 Před 4 lety

    My pet deck wasn't on the list :-( But still a great video :-)

  • @mrdude8416
    @mrdude8416 Před 4 lety +1

    I play modern merfolk! 😀

  • @TheTirelessRocker
    @TheTirelessRocker Před 4 lety

    do a pioneer one plz

  • @kittenmagebone5494
    @kittenmagebone5494 Před 4 lety

    I think there might be an error in the whurza explanation. You tap the sword for mana, otherwise you will just have a bunch of tapped thopters. Might be wrong, I haven't actually played the deck.

    • @drm3ssivador
      @drm3ssivador Před 4 lety +1

      You're right. They tap the thopters, which works out because it doesn't really matter anyways, you still have to untap again and you still get infinite life but with their explanation, it's unclear how you get infinite mana. I guess against Infect it could matter, though.

    • @TheMistforman
      @TheMistforman Před 4 lety

      @@drm3ssivador you tap the sword with urza as well.

  • @xander805
    @xander805 Před 4 lety +2

    My God Ben Bateman on TCC! YESSSSSS love Ben Bateman, I don't care what anyone says current Schmoedown GOAT.

  • @johndoriansmith
    @johndoriansmith Před 4 lety

    Bro, what about devoted druid/yawgmoth decks ;-;

  • @ringod123
    @ringod123 Před 4 lety

    My favorite way to win is to ask Yuya for some tips.

  • @elizabertolini9905
    @elizabertolini9905 Před 4 lety +2

    storm?

  • @jimhopkins3972
    @jimhopkins3972 Před 4 lety +1

    They forgot "for those of you with unlimited funds..." Except for Merfolk. :)

  • @valentijnbergmann3193
    @valentijnbergmann3193 Před 4 lety +1

    Where is mono red blitz

  • @marcgomes4193
    @marcgomes4193 Před 4 lety

    This is cool! Do Pioneer please.

  • @RL_22
    @RL_22 Před 4 lety

    Right now I always win since I'm only playing against myself at home.

  • @victorperron8092
    @victorperron8092 Před 4 lety +1

    I play Living End...still. I'm sad it wasn't mentionned.

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast Před 4 lety

      one of the beauties of modern is that a video going over every single deck in the format would be 24 hours long.

  • @forceofwillgaming8475
    @forceofwillgaming8475 Před 4 lety

    Wait why wasn’t storm on this list.

  • @RicardoPM777
    @RicardoPM777 Před rokem

    👏👏👏

  • @TheBlinkyImp
    @TheBlinkyImp Před 4 lety

    Is Storm not a thing anymore?

    • @TheMMCast
      @TheMMCast Před 4 lety

      it is. these are just a selection of the available decks in modern. Doing a full comprehensive version would...well needs its own show. Speaking of which. Come watch, Fridays at 2!

  • @eamonbell6378
    @eamonbell6378 Před 4 lety

    At least they didn't make this video when Hogaak was around. Then this video would've been "9 ways to ramp Hogaak out before your opponent" except they would only have mentioned the one or two best ways.

  • @oripaper7727
    @oripaper7727 Před 4 lety

    where is bogle hexproof?

  • @nimbus6694
    @nimbus6694 Před 4 lety

    6:16 WOW

  • @rodeofrancisco6130
    @rodeofrancisco6130 Před 4 lety

    The Merfolk tribe is far from dead.
    I also resent every deck on this list.
    I rarely ever lose to jund style decks, and finally lost a match against death's shadow.