Logitech G915 Lightspeed vs Razer Blackwidow V3 Pro Wireless Keyboard Comparison
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- čas přidán 27. 09. 2020
- A comparison between two seemingly high-end and very expensive wireless gaming keyboards The Razer Blackwidow V3 Pro vs the Logitech G915 Lightspeed.
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Which keyboard do you think came out on top? Also dick jokes are funny.
I only had the g915 for a review on my desk and while it's a cool board the logtech gl brow switches were noticeable worse than kailh choc browns wich seems to be the switch they are based of. How logitech managed to make an existing switch worse is baffling to me. Also the use of thin keycaps wich are basically unreadable without backlight and the use of mini usb seems to be a very big oversight for a 250 dollar keyboard.
The blackwidow v3 pro seems to be overpriced as well. Razer greens are by far razers worse switches and it is beyond me why razer used abs keycaps on their highest end board, when they have awesome pbt keycaps in production already.
When Companys have such high prices, there shouldn't be any compromise in terms of featureset and build quality. Plus wireless connection on a board that doesn't move on the desk is nice but not more than a gimmick. Both are not worth it imo.
I disagree I think the razor wins to $230hell yeah bro
Razed wins I have the keyboard and got it on sale it’s awesome I fw it heavy
Dick jokes are always funny. No matter how old you are. Great vid man! Probably passed on both this keyboard and wait for the next iteration. Hopefully in a more compact form factor like TKL.
i like both. haha! cant' choose
Dongle measuring contest lmao
Your review is the only one I've seen that points out the G915's lack of illumination for the secondary keys (I think this is more than an oversight on others reviews). I use my keyboard at night so having those keys lit matters to me. That being said, I agree with you in that the G915 is the better value over the BWV3Pro. Thanks for a great review.
I'm returning mine because of this. This is a huge oversight
I've seen a lot of it
@@jblondin1980 It's not an oversight. Logitech have known about it for over a year and have chosen to not do anything about it.
@@tonyhorn2954 um, I posted 8 months ago.
this depend of the layout, i've the BWV3Pro with french layout and it's worse than the G915, on the BWV3Pro french, only the secondary keys have light, on the first row, which is awful (the main numbers and 3rd keys didn't have illumination)
I was in between the two and went to the store for testing today. Was my first time trying mechanical switches. I wanted to like the logitech more since that's what I always had, and I like the way it looks and all the stuff he talks about in the video. Long story short, I was much more comfortable and accurate on the v3 Pro and liked the multi-media controls more on it. I should say they only had the logi brown tactile and v3 pro green to test with. I was also surprised I liked the clicky more. I did not find it harder to type with than membrane or scissor switches. The g915 felt similar to my laptop keyboard. I tried the mx keys, which also felt like my laptop. However, the mx keys mechanical was nice to use. After today, I'm between the v3 pro and mx keys mechanical. I'm just still so surprised how much I liked the v3 pro it was like it was pulling and pushing my fingers exactly to where they were supposed to be. I'd say I tested 30+ keyboards at the store today.
Which one did you end up getting? I had the option for Yellows oranges and greens since i ordered mine online (Came in pristine condition as it should) and ended up getting the greens since it was my first true Mechanical keyboard.gotta say the loudness makes my mother hate me, but i love it so much! I have to agree the media layout and buttons are far superior to those of the g keyboard and aside from battery life i found it to be my preferred option. I love the clicks and the g's keys just remind me of my old laptop's keys giving me ptsd to the atrocious accuracy i had while using those. All and all the wrist rest that comes with the black widow is SUCH A NICE TOUCH as i have issues with my wrist getting possibly bruised and scratched during long sessions.
@@froximussx4093 i choose yellow because its best for gaming ( 1.2mm )and not bad for type.
With the hyper button every button because a macro key, i find that nice since the board stays clean. We could always make those media keys macro keys as well
Your channel is severely underrated. You should have a million subscribers. Keep it up and you'll get there. Cheers!
As far as screen sampling goes, you can do it on Razer, but it's finnicky. You have to individually choose a portion of the screen for every single key. The quickest way to do it accurately I've found is to download or take a front on picture of the keyboard, stretch it to whatever aspect ratio your screen is, and use that as a backdrop. It also slows down other chroma effects when you have too many different sections mapped. Looks dam sexy though, worth all the fuss in my opinion.
Alternatively I suppose you could map broad sections of the screen to broad sections of the keyboard.
I own a razer black widow keyboard and they are amazing, my significant other has one as well. Highly recommend one. But different people have different preferences for different things.
@SONICTHEHEDGEHOG 1000 get one for Christmas! They are amazing quality!
Do you think it's worth $140? That's the going price right now. I'm debating if I should get it.
I'm thinking about buying the G915 but i all ready have a deatheader v2 pro whould there be any problems with the connections of the 2 things?
Imagine a G915 V2 with the new Cherry MX Ultra Low Profile switches. But I atleast hope that they will implement USB-C and better media buttons similar to razer. A knob or dial that you could reprogram to different functions such as scrolling through time lines.
You are a genius. Thanks for this you earned a sub
Thank you! Because of your video I managed to find out which keyboard to get! 😃
I got the G915 today, and I've been finding only good reviews about it, I'm proud of my new keyboard.
What i do find a bit awkward are those secundary icons on the caps of the blackwidow being that big. Though it is clear ro read
thanks for the vid, i would go with the G915 but there's no market for keycaps, replacement or PBT which is sadly a dealbreaker for me
FYI you are way off on the battery for the G915, even their own website states it's 30 hours (at 100% lighting), not 90+ hours.
you didnt say which switch you were using for the G915, what switches were they they sound great, i want to get the clicky varient
you reviewed the bloody b975 a while ago but can cherry stem keycaps fit in their plzzz help me
Hey, can I ask where you can buy keycap on Razer Blackwidow V3 Pro ? Thank so much.
Logitech is so far ahead when it comes to battery life on wireless keyboards. I am going with G915 for that reason. I have MX Keys and it is so great to only have to charge it every month or so.
G915 tops everything. The only thing that bums me with it is the keycap replacement. I would love to have a white keycaps on the brush aluminum.
Couldn't you just use any standard choc keycaps? They're not as common as regular ones, but white ones shouldn't be hard to find. Like these ones keycapsss.com/keyboard-parts/keycaps/68/kailh-low-profile-keycaps-set-with-legends-104-key-choc?c=16
You can find at aliexpress, white key caps for the white version of the 915 tkl. They fit perfectly
i hope they introduce super charge fast charge some day.
G915 - after a week of use in the G915, one of the buttons started having a "double click".
My old K360 keyboard did not have such a problem for several years.
Idk I really don’t like Logitech products
I have G613 and most keys are having double click issue. It is a garbage keyboard. I don't trust Logitech anymore.
Love the hoody.
I dont know where you got your information about the battery from but they are completely wrong. Logitech own website says it has 30h with full RGB lol
One major complaint, for the price these go, they should've used PBT key caps.
If I’m shopping for a desktop gaming keyboard, I don’t want a light frame. I want a heavy, thicc boi. We need more stable, insulated keyboards on the market. I had a old IBM mechanical keyboard for YEARS, it had a legacy PS-2 cable which is less latency compared to USB. The best keyboard for gaming or typing I ever had…fairly quiet no rattles and the switches and keys were tough as nails. It was a big heavy boi too. We need more of THAT on the market.
You definitely helped me choosing my next keyboard. Thank you. (PS: the G915 also is more compatible with MacOS)
if you are able to install the software, on my M1 and M2 mac i am unable to install it due to numerous errors...
Great comparison!
Tbh I’m not even into gaming as much anymore. I currently use MX keys for my Mac set up at home. Looking for a RGB keyboard to make working at home a little interesting lol.
Same here... just ordered the Blackwidow based on this video (even though he recommended Logitech) to update my workspace!
Curious what you choose. Razor doesnt have Synapse for mac. I did found a github which open source people made for mac
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you know he's serious when the caps lock is on.
aesthetically much prefer the g915. The low profile shape and aluminum finish just look elegant.
Tbh the black widow series looks more pleasing to me
@Niña's room its a comparison vid, its about comparing different things
Oof that battery life difference is ridiculous.
Recently we bought both gaming keyboards in india from furper and we use both G915/G913 is both same
Both are for professional gamers.
a ton of dedicated buttons? ...looks at my 90's microsoft keyboard with actual media keys that work now.
Both sound pretty awesome until the price reveal. oof.
"...you up to playing a game of hide the dongle..."
lmao
I got so tired of Razer Blackwidow V3 Pro Wireless with double typing on Day 1. I've got a replacement and same thing. Their quality was really bad. I loved the sound and the clickyness but double typing blew me off.
Two reasons why G915>Blackwidow v3 pro
1.Tactile switch
2.Onboard memory for RGB.
The G915 has major issues with saving profiles on to the onboard memory. Advise that people that would need this feature read up on the many complaints from exisiting owners. It's a massive shame as it is a gorgeous device but I will have to return mine.
You need to measure the latency difference between the two keyboards
why you didnt compare the most important thing here is '' letancy '' ... which one has better wireless conettion and reaction...you could show the nubmers to us ...miliseconds...
I really wanted to like the G915 (Typing on it right now). Everything about the keyboard is great. The main and only reason I'm returning this keyboard is because the keys are too low and not spaced enough for me. It's even more uncomfortable when you include a wrist pad. I'm coming from a Corsair K70 mx blue. If Corsair released a wireless mx blue keyboard, I would instantly buy it. I will be trying the Wireless Razer Blackwidow, but it looks like we're still a couple generations away from a true complete wireless keyboard.
@Niña's room chill out
damm, im using the Corsair K70 mx blue right now and thinking about getting a G915. You made me think twice about that :v. And actually if Corsair make that K70 wireless, it would be awesome.
I wanted the g915 but ended up going with the blackwidow as i managed to pick it up for £100 during the black friday deals and i already use a Razer Basilisk mouse so i wont need two dongles rather than just 1
how did you connect both
If take the Razer just because it has that media dial which I use on my black widow elite for volume and scrolling, so far watching great review 👍
You can drill a hole in your desk and route the cable, it will look like wireless
FramedThunder yeah I know, I’ve said this on his review on the v3 pro, and Razers tweet about it, they even replied with joke about what I said.
@@framedthunder6436 yes, but no. I bought G915 because you can switch easy between wireless and Bluetooth because I have my personal laptop and work laptop. Personal laptop(gaming one) on wireless mode and work laptop on Bluetooth. My work laptop is on the left side of my monitor and my personal laptop on the right side of the monitor, so it would be a pain to change the cable between this two laptops. I know I can have a KVM switch, but I don't like the idea.
I just got G915 for 130$ !!! :D It was my dream keyboard since premiere! And finally I found bargain ocassion, so I hasn't hesitate a second and got it! :D And I LOVE this keyboard! Previously I had G910, which looks like cheap plastic toys near this!!! And previously also ancient G11... And Genius Manticore...
How’d you get it for so cheap?
@@brandon080693 On our Polish eBay, Allegro... And yes, it was bargain! Shift key was making some crank noise, and I was prepared to even change switch, but it was enough to just put some special grease on this metal holder of the key 😁 So I fixed it myself in 5 minutes for free 😁
If they made the blackwidow 150 bucks then it would've been more acceptable, hope they take it as a lesson to improve the next wireless kb they are planning, if they ever plan on doing so.
It's $140 now, do you think it's worth it for that price? I'm debating if I should get one.
@@Longsen seems reasonable
its all time on sale for around 120-130eur in europe which is actually extremely cheap.
I bought both during Amazon's prime day deals. The blackwidow v3 pro arrived first, opened it, loved it. i've got o-rings installed to lower the bottom out noise. even better now.. love the clicks.
I havent even bothered opening the G915. because that one i ordered the GL tactile and not comfy with the flimsy keycaps reviews i'm seeing. I'm not gonna bother opening it and will just be returning it.
Could you clarify what O-rings specifically please, getting the same keyboard and expecting the noise to be an issue for me with the green clickies
Do you still use the V3? I'm debating if I should get it. Do you think it's worth $140? That's the going price right now.
Painted ABS on the G915 keycaps scare me though, especially with how I'm seeing people with peeled/fading keycaps online
I can only confirm it with the five G513 keyboards i returned due to this issue (together with ghosting). At some of them the peeling of the keycaps color already happend after a good month of using.
How do you not have over 100k, like, this is the best tech channel
I wonder what battery size capacity these boards have. I mean they a big and i can easily carry a big 10k mAh battery. I have not found any site making note of this. Kinda weird!
That G board must have a big bulky battery having those EPIC numbers for wireless and having RGB on. Thats pretty impressive!
g915 vs k100? plz
I'm surprised to see nothing g915 tkl related? Unless I'm just not seeing it..
My biggest problem with the G915 was the very low quality switches and keycaps. I typed on that thing for about 3 weeks before the poor quality of the G915 became fully apparent. Those keycaps are micro-thin, painted and mounted to switches that will pivot and snag if you strike them slightly off angle. Such a great idea, implemented in an ultra-china-cheap way. Regarding the Razer, I had high hopes they would make a lo-pro competitor, but it looks like they ran straight in the opposite direction. Sadly I won't be buying either.
People are getting 160-170 wpm with the G915. I don't think people would be able to do that if they had that issue. But maybe you just type in a way that doesn't jive with that keyboard in particular.
It may be because they use Kailh
I think the g915 has better latency. Unfortunately, no review discuss the keyboard latency yet.
This article discusses latency. www.rtings.com/keyboard/tools/compare/logitech-g915-lightspeed-vs-razer-blackwidow-v3-pro/1686/18410?usage=9048&threshold=0.10
Thick & chonky vs thin & sleek. Should be an interesting vid.
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At $310AU I was pretty pissed to find the secondary keys are not lit. This is unacceptable for a keyboard of this cost and standard.
Both keyboards sound louder than I like... I'm not trying to be picky but I live in a small house and have a baby that will hear it. I have a really nice wired off brand (reddragon 107) gaming keyboard that is very quiet and has rubbery caps and feels awesome but I need something like that in a wireless... version...
you can use mx cherry red silent switches, quiet and main-brand.
Get the green clicky switches on the Razer. My first clicky keyboard and i frkn love it.
wait a few months until you admit "yea, it's cool, but I wish those were tactile instead of clicky" :D (maybe I'm wrong but other than for typists, it's always the case)
@@L0vacyeah i don't know, its been a year and still going strong. Maybe it would be annoying to others but I live alone. I do use it for gaming, but the audible click is super helpful when I'm doing 3D modeling and gives that confirmation that the key/tool is active. The rest of the time it just feels like I'm operating a terminal in Fallout haha
@@danielgroenewald3006 :D Indeed; it comes down to personal pref. I'm glad that you love it ^^ Personally, I had to switch from CherryMX Blue to Brown because I couldn't hear my thoughts when furiously typing :D Took me some time, but after it, I got used to "feel" the bump on Browns. Now that I think of it, I wish I had both and just change them according to my likings
"It's not the size of the dongle, it's where you plug it in."
Battery life shouldn't be an issue. these will literally sit on your desk, they are not cell phones haha.
until it run out of battery during combat ...
the only thing in my mind is Razer Huntsman Elite
The problem is that there is no competition to Logitech when we are talking about battery life.
i personally like low profile switches more so g915/913 is my favorite
and also i don't need wrist rest with low profile keyboard
and also razer is too bright for me
I chose the Razer. The low profile key caps on the Logitech weren't my thing.
@Dbop boi
Do you still use it? I'm debating if I should get it. The going price is $140 right now, do you think that's worth it?
1088h vs 192h and 96h vs 8h !!!!!
Me who never touched a mechanical keyboard in my whole entire life:
Dongle measuring
I have the logitech G915 and Razer I prefer the G915 due to wireless and more buttons
G915 is abosoute boss one of the best keyboard RGB is excellent and battery life is amazing 🙂👍
gotta love that 9th ed 40k rule book ;)
really glad i went with g915
While both of them are too expensive IMHO Razer with its double shot keycaps, standard layout, a wrist rest and slightly cheaper price seems to be a better value
But I wouldn't buy either as they stand now
why not?? and what keyboard do you use?
@@nanezferrer3565 I've been in the market for a low profile wireless mechanical keyboard preferably TKL. While the Logitech technically fits this category it's switches weren't that great, the GHub software is full of bugs that haven't been fixed for almost 2 years and it's ridiculously overpriced
I've been waiting for Razer to release a wireless version of the Huntsman series but that's not happened yet
I recently bought a Keychron K3 and it's quite a nice wireless keyboard with optical switches
@@007Babush Yeah i was thinking the same. Razer should make more wireless TKL line up
@@nanezferrer3565 I think they'll release a wireless Huntsman at some point
Right now Logitech pretty much controls that market so they can charge what they want 😅
the fact that the G915 uses a micro-USB cable for that price is just unacceptable. It's enough to make me not reconsider my Blackwidow V3 purchase (and it was like full retail at Microcenter), for that price we should not be getting outdated flimsy tech
I have a question.Deathadder V2 or Viper(Normal) for Fotnite?
Based on your hand size and your grip style
Yeah.G915 is safer bet if you want officework + gaming option.
Logitech NO keys are customizable other than the g keys...Blackwidow EVERY KEY is customizable plus you can even double all the keys with hypershift .. GG . How you can frankly not even mention this is ridiculous....
somehow this is not common knowledge but i agree it is a big deal for those that like to remap. I did not know until i got the 915 tkl myself coming from huntsman te it was kind of shocking i thought the software was broken, contacted support and was told no this is intended so you cannot mess up standard functionality.. really?
agreed
does Razer offer this in TKL?
Actually no. Another point to Logitech, that offers both full size and TKL to suit whatever the buyer wants.
They do actually offer a TKL size!
@@javon999 No mate, they don't. Razer released the Blackwidow V3 (wired) and the Blackwidow V3 Pro (wireless + some extra features). Pro version costs $90 more. They also launched a TKL version of the basic V3, not the V3 Pro featured in this video, wich is what @joe TheBet was asking about. But who knows, maybe in the near future...
If I'm ever to go for a full sized keyboard, I would want all the bells and whistles. It is one of the reasons of getting a full sized board aside from whether you need the numpad. So in my opinion, when it's on sale, the G915 has to be my choice.
I am happy with my G915, until the day my W keycap leg break n stuck inside the switch and become a keyboard size paper weight, you will hate it too when it happen to you., until than enjoy the keyboard.
There is literally no point in getting a wireless razer keyboard. I can't believe the battery life on it. If you get a blackwidow elite for $100 dollars cheaper, you get USB and audio password and cable routing which can hide the cable all together if you want the wireless experience.
5-8 hours batt life for razer? Are u sure?
Last week i Sold my blackwidow chroma v2 for my apex pro keyboard. I hate the loud Green Switches from razer. And i love the silent linear Switches from the apex pro. Btw the apex Switches are the fastest on market.
Why did you get green switches then 😂
@@Juply because the v3 pro have only the greens in germany.
@@chrisdergrinch4875 oh...
The wheel of the razer gets dust and it gets unusable.
The Logitech one doesn't come with a wrist rest? :(
Nope.
It doesnt need one because its so thin
I came for the dongle jokes.
shorter is faster for me, travel i dont see it. if i travel i like to go to a warm place and a beach.
Now add ROG Claymore II to the competition...
Also your sound test is meaningless if we don't know which switch your test unit actually uses lol.
Rog wins 🙆♂️
lolz i use razer speakers.. razer keyboard, and a logitech 502
There aren’t many options....
Razer is better but I don't love both cause low profile mechanical switches are not good (only for laptops it would be ok)
But this Razer is not low profile.
@@viniciusrodrigues9592 i didn't do punctuation. I mean I don't like both for diffeent reasons but logitech one for being low profil
@@Donbros oh, sorry! I thought you believed Razer was low profile when you said "I don't love both cause low profile..." Anyway, at this price tag I wouldn't go for any of those as well, there are better deals at this budget.
@@viniciusrodrigues9592 i think logitech have potential but they should make all alu high pro version with their receiver at 200 usd and go with 1800 layout. That would be keyboard even enthusiast would consider
i hate the low profile keys of the g915 so for me its the razer that wins also because im already in they're eco system
Why isn't the Razer in Mercury white?!?! Why must you come so close to the perfect keyboard and the FAIL!
Judging by specs, Logitech is more compelling if price is not an issue.
The Logitech keyboard is definitely my favorite but i wish to god they'd just ditch those useless G Keys on the left side.
@@cuddlycuttlefish5674 the G915 does have the G buttons on the side...
@@Mwtorres89 yeah sorry
If the Logitech G915 used USB-C I probably would have gotten it
1:32
g915 : les kiss forever
black widow v3 pro : yes pls
now thats a weird simping and oofing
Battery life killed the Razer for me
Nah man, I skipped all the mainstream brands and went for an Epomaker gk68xs
The deal breaker is low profile switch/key's it just ruined it for me they look horrible plus you can't change your keycaps why logitech just why did you have to that to yourselves and customers.
Abubaker Ali Some people like low-profile keyboards. My self inculed.
@@lex1ckon I like logitech and have purchased handfuls of their products, I am sure there is a market for low profile keyboard that's why they made it.
likewise there are people who despise the "grotesque" look, impractical stem and isolation with keycap options and who logitech stubbornly alienated by their choice like myself, why loose "old" customers by shoving a vision down their throats!
Would have loved to see them adopt universal keyboard layouts, hotswap keys, modular numbpads, left side numbpads.
Perhaps with their growth they become too bloated and detached from their customers.
Anyways just my opinion sorry for the rant 😂