Rotherhithe Pubs: The Mayflower, The Angel + a more historic riverside pubs of London's docklands
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Continuing my exploration of the historic pubs of London's docklands, this time on the south of the river Thames, in Rotherhithe.
Links etc:
Old Justice
whatpub.com/pubs/SEL/10714/ol...
pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs...
historicengland.org.uk/listin...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/B...
Angel
whatpub.com/pubs/SEL/10710/an...
ocrpubs.camra.org.uk/pubs/117
historicengland.org.uk/listin...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/R...
Ship
whatpub.com/pubs/SEL/10708/sh...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/R...
Mayflower
whatpub.com/pubs/SEL/10711/ma...
pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/R...
Bricklayers Arms
whatpub.com/pubs/SEL/10716/bl...
pubheritage.camra.org.uk/pubs...
londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/R...
I've now unlisted the earlier (more slapdash!) video I did on Wapping/Rotherhithe but in case anyone still wants to see it, it's here: • Wapping / Rotherhithe ...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:16 Old Justice
4:35 Angel
9:33 Ship
12:38 Mayflower
18:44 Bricklayer's Arms
22:29 Outro (on a boat!)
The Old Justice was also used in the pilot episode of the Sweeney - Regan
These 1930's pubs look fantastic now, and are probably worth a series on their own. I wouldn't have given them a second glance twenty years ago, and now realise I should pay much more heed to them.
Hi John. Another cracking set of pubs, all very inviting indeed. Your research adds so much to this series. You are to be commended. Whether or not intentional, I do enjoy playing “can you spot Tweedy’s umbrella”! 🌂
Keep up the fabulous work. 👏👏😀🍺
Some of the most characterful pubs in all of London are absolutely in Bermondsey / Rotherhithe / Wapping, in my opinion anyway. Some of them are still lesser visited which is always a bonus. Really great spots. Even some of the modernised spots in Bermondsey like The Gregorian and The Marquis of Wellington are favorites of mine.
I agree Matt, there is something really special about this part of London.
I watch every video on this channel when it comes out! I have never been in an English pub in my life, but I find the videos fascinating. Many of them are older than Canada, and that blows my mind. 🤔
I come from Ireland, lived in England, Wales, Isle of Man and now lived in Canada. Miss the pubs from those places but if you ever get to Vancouver Island, check out The Crow and Gate near Cedar. Built in the 1970s it could easily fool any Englishman into believing that it is an English pub. It is as close as you could get.
Thanks Alex - really fascinating to hear - I tend to assume the videos would only be of interest to seasoned pub goers in England but it's great to hear they have broader appeal!
@@TweedyPubs Also of interest to us in Australia🦘. Full of history, well researched and coupled with an engaging presentation style - please keep them coming. I will certainly pay some of them a visit when next visiting the Old Dart. Cheers.
Another great tour of london boozers tweedy - very informative and enjoyable
Great video ,love the history 👍
Thank you, fascinating. Loved the selfie in the mirror at The Ship.
I still remember the first Tweedy Pubs video I watched. It was the second video in the series, and a minute in I reached to turn it off, but hesitated. Then something just clicked and I very slowly slid my finger away so as not to interrupt things. I liked and subscribed, and have never once regretted that decision. These get better all the time. Thanks for all of the excellent work, John! This series is a gem.
Thank you! Most of my friends and family aren't interested in my videos so it is definitely a bit of a niche thing! Or maybe an acquired taste? Thanks for sticking with the channel, I am hopefully getting a bit better at this as I go, but still plenty of room for improvement!
@@TweedyPubs Don`t put yourself down Sir Tweedy,your delivery style and production improve with every video....keep up the good work 👍
Another great video always interesting keep up the good work
Top video again, Tweedy. I'm actually down in the Smoke next week staying in a hotel in Rotherhithe so will certainly follow your advice on these fine looking battle cruisers. Part of London I don't know at all so looking forward to it!
These riverside pubs are really interesting - they survive whilst all around them has changed so much in recent decades. Although it did look like there were still some older buildings around The Blacksmiths Arms. I do love old heating systems that still work, for some odd reason!
Ultimately a positive outcome with the Old Justice - really positive news and evidence that the listing process can work. Hopefully its future is now secured.
I was interested by the brickwork behind you at The Ship - it looked much older than the very 1930s frontage - was that the back wall of the pub, or an adjacent building?
Excellent work as usual and the boat sequence at the end was a nice treat!
How you managed to sign off on the ferry after a few beers without any Pirate "Gaaaars" thrown in was particularly impressive! Another cracking vid and more pubs to add to my "must visit here" list :)
Love The Mayflower…my favorite pub fish and chips dining (and drinking) experience! My first encounter with The Angel was a couple years back as I was completing the Thames River hiking trail. Nice place! Thanks, as always, for the wonderfully entertaining video! Cheers!!!
Thanks Ed! As shown in the video I ate there and I thought the food was really good. It's obviously on the tourist trail but still a great pub in my opinion.
Brilliant as always tweedy I look forward to your posts!! Love them 😎 love the old justice. Would u consider covering Isle of Dogs?
Greetings from Ohio, USA. New subscriber.
You are a great and informative host, who doesn’t care for all the bullshit….perfect to watch for me! Haha.
Very interesting videos, and thank you for all the effort in creating. Cheers. 🍻
I am a Rotherhithe lad Myself there used to be a pub called the ship York but now flats splendid pub it was do so enjoy your content excellent viewing thank you
Thanks Michael. It's a really fascinating part of London, although it has of course seen a lot of change. Always sad to hear of closed pubs.
Loved the video. Full marks for not taking much footage in a busy pub. No one wants that but, many ignore.
Living in the States but a huge proper pub-goer every time I'm across the pond. There is something truly special about having a drink in a space that withstands so much time, trends, and history. Glad to see you covered the Mayflower! I happened to be there last year on July 4th (US Independence Day), funny enough! Love all your content. I'm also a fan of your sport coats/clothing. What are you go-to shops and tailors for your tweed/wool jackets? Keep up the great work. Cheers
Thanks Anil! Most of my tweed suits are from Walker Slater, they have shops in London and Edinburgh, plus also online at walkerslater.com - I think they may ship internationally although obviously it's a bit harder getting the sizing right that way!
Thank you for another fantastic video, and also for the great amounts of research you put into them. Cheers.
Just a quick note to let you know that the picture of the Blacksmiths Arms in the description is labelled Bricklayers Arms. I like to use Google maps to follow your routes and when I added Bricklayers Arms it took me miles away to near the British Museum.
Wow the production quality! Thanks
Thank you - still plenty of room for improvement! ...but I do try and take a bit more time and care over these compared to when I first started the channel last summer.
That brolly is becoming quite the barfly Tweedy. 🍻
I'm in danger of being upstaged!
Nice views on that pub crawl good to see the first pub saved and reopened 🍻
Thanks John! Yes it's a very scenic part of London. I used to think pubs like the Angel were hidden gems, particularly for those views, that not many other people (even Londoners) knew about.... but having spoken to the landlord about the massive queue at the weekend before it seems that's no longer the case!
The Mayflower's previous name sign "Spread Eagle and Crown" can be seen in the 1953 film ''The Limping Man" at about 28 minutes. Available on this site.
I watched that film the other week. I didnt notice. Cheers.
I love these videos watch them with google maps open so I can see the area and plan my next trip to London. Great informative content Cheers...
Thank you! I think the two most famous pubs here - the Angel and the Mayflower - are still the highlights of this area for me, and of course you could combine those with some of the pubs across the river in Wapping. The Overground line from Rotherhithe to Wapping is very handy for crossing the river here, as there aren't any footbridges along this stretch.
We will be visiting each one of these while staying in Rotherhithe on our next visit to London. Cheers for the review and interesting factoids Tweedy!
Thanks Kevin!
Whistler is supposed to have done his painting 'Wapping' at the Angel.
Some top boozers there John...loved the Old Justice with all the Charrington history..top vid👍
Thanks Dave! Yes I was really happy to see the Old Justice having been brought back to life. Maybe not a big "destination pub" like the Mayflower or the Angel, but I got the sense it's a great pub for the local community.
Great pubs and commentary! Really enjoyed the old pictures showing the area in 18th century. So glad to live in this time, but really interested in topography from the past.
Thanks L&J! Yes I find old photos fascinating too, especially when you can line them up with something which still exists today.
Fascinating, replete with splendid research. I visited the Old Justice two weeks ago and enjoyed my first pint of Sussex Best that was the first pour from the cask. I concur that it certainly is an excellent pint.
Thank you! Sussex Best seems to be enjoying a moment - a few years ago it was a rare find in London pubs, but in the last few months I've started to see it all over the place.
I like the fact it always rains in your videos
I do seem to get a lot of that don't I? The bulk of these videos are from the last 6 months which just happens to coincide with a period of pretty wet weather - even by English standards. Hopefully with the summer approaching there'll be some blue sky ahead!
Another well researched and brilliant video. Great to see the dimple handle glasses. They used to be so popular up north in the 70s and then almost vanished. Look forward to the next video.
Thanks Liam - yes I love those dimpled handle glasses too. They are dotted around in a few pubs in London but in some places you have to ask specially for them.
@@TweedyPubs Strangely several local pubs here in Vancouver Island have them but they call them 'jugs'.........you are greeted with 'Would you like your beer in a glass or a jug?"
Another great exploration ....i am impressed by the prices of the beer too......seems reasonable for fancy London....keep up the good work.....
Thank you! I think I forgot to include the prices in the other three pubs, which were a bit closer to what you might expect in central London, but it was good to know there are still at least two pubs in this area where a pint still costs £5 or less.
The Angel is a favourite, particularly due enjoying the Sam Smiths Stouts and also the views along the Thames and the public art installed on the terrace nearby.
It's a great spot. A friend of mine was considering moving abroad and after an evening at the Angel was convinced to stay put!
I’m a fan of Sam Smith’s stouts as well.
happy to see this post. thought tweedy went on a bender and couldn't recover or slipped and took a tumble in the wild and was now in survival mode.
Thanks Eduardo! I was just taking a break over Easter - one week doing more outdoorsy stuff (although the weather wasn't very conducive) and the other week spending time with family. Should be back to weekly videos from now on!
no pressure, tweedy. having said that, you are my only source of infotainment.
Gene Hackman would be proud of the ending, very French Connection..Great video..
Hahaha thanks Clark! I think a big part of the reason I included that fifth pub was just to give me an excuse to get on that very short ferry crossing afterwards.
Good evening, Tweedy.
I have been watching a number of your videos recently, having visited many of the pubs you have featured in the videos myself.
I have not yet looked at Rotherhithe pubs (did Wapping at Christmas), but I'm glad to see this latest video as I want to look at Rotherhithe sometime soon.
Keep up your excellent videos 😃
P.S. Each to his own tastes, but I fully understand and concur with your thoughts on these new "citrus flavour beers" - not my thing either 😉 🤔 !!!
Thanks Lee! In the past I would usually combine Wapping and Rotherhithe for a day / evening out and pick the best-of-the-best from each side of the river, but it was nice on this trip to just stick to Rotherhithe and include some of the lesser known pubs.
Glad you're in agreement about citrusy beers! I too think each to their own, and I'm glad there are a variety of beer styles which suit different tastes - but I've been in some pubs where they have four hand pumps and every single one of them is something or other grapefruity. I'm not asking for all four to be traditional bitters but surely there's still enough demand for at least one...?
@@TweedyPubsI have also found this in some pubs now concerning the lack of a good "traditional" ale.
In the last year or so I have been in several pubs and asked what ales they have on handpump only to find that they are all some citrusy IPA types and have then been told that there is no call for traditional ales or dark beers. I think "well I have just called for it, so that at least makes one person !" 🤔 This often means it's then a Guinness or nothing.
I have several friends also telling me similar stories from other pubs too. It would be nice to even have just one handpump that wasn't "citrusy" with just a good traditional type ale.
Also, another turn off in a pub is loud background music. Again it is my personal preference and I accept everyone is different. It spoils a visit, especially when out with friends when you just want to chat and catch up. On many occasions, we have had to leave and search for another quieter pub.
You can't beat a simple, quiet, no thrills pub, with a selection of good ales, good basic pub food (not "fancy gastro") and friendly staff 😃
Hi there, I was wondering given your quite detailed and professional descriptions of the features in the various pubs if you have a background in architecture?
It is apparent a lot of research must go into each video, which is very much appreciated. Maybe at sometime in the future your videos will be used by someone else doing research into the pubs, and the areas.
Thanks John! No, my interest in architecture is purely amateur, and I'm learning as I go.
Was it The Angel that George Best used to drink in? - If not I am sure he did used to drink in one of these Rotherhithe pubs.
Vaguely remember Charrington (as in the Brewery) being pronounced “Carrington”. However, I can’t confirm this or my memory 😂 🍺
Interesting! It's one of those words I've only ever seen written down so I just went for the most obvious pronunciation - but yes given the age of the brewery I could well imagine it is pronounced differently!
Well done, again. Do you know if the Ship York pub on Rotherhithe Street has re-opened? I ws by there in 2015 and it looked like it had been boarded up recently. Of these, the only pub I have't done is the Blacksmith's Arms- I'll be over there in two weeks and will have to check it out.
Thanks Lawrence. Sadly WhatPub reports that the Ship York has been demolished. I never went there, but reading about it just now it sounds like it was a great boozer. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!
The Blacksmith's Arms is really out on a limb, and not near any tube stations etc, although it is on a bus route, plus of course there's the ferry! The opening hours are also a bit challenging, doesn't open until 4pm on weekdays. It was a surprise though - quite a smart interior actually, and I liked finding all those quirky details like the "penny drop".
@@TweedyPubs Thanks for getting back- my Fancy a Pint guidebook gave it a high rating. 4 out of 5 pints.
Good lord, what views! Surely someone is thinking of a way to monetize that? 😅
Do I win a prize for spotting your umbrella hanging at the bar in multiple pubs?
The views from the Angel in particular can be incredible, and when I first went there about 15 years ago it seemed to me to be very much a locals pub - I felt I had discovered a hidden gem! I think in hindsight I was just fortunate with the timing, and reading about that 1977 Evening Standard award the pub won, it seemed even then a couple of the judges had their misgivings as they considered it to be a bit of a tourist pub! Perhaps there has been a certain amount of ebb and flow between then and now. As I think I mentioned in the video, the landlord told me that last weekend - which felt like the first sunny weekend of the year - there had been queues out the door, and half way along the terrace, to get to the bar. It was hard to imagine on my visit, but it was of course a weekday lunchtime. He elaborated that trade is apparently very brisk indeed there, which I was happy to hear - there's no danger of the pub failing to make ends meet - but yes I do worry a bit that some unscrupulous developer might eye the site with an avaricious gaze and ponder how they might squeeze more money out of it!
Glad you spotted the umbrella again! It was a bit frustrating to have to lug it round all day today as in the end it only rained for a few minutes, and it was barely drizzle.