Commander Gameplay (Gone COMPETITIVE) | Winota VS Tishana VS Ikra / Rograkh VS Rocco

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Komentáře • 74

  • @lexisanterre
    @lexisanterre Před rokem +17

    "There was a theme of humans and non-humans in Ikoria, and thats why they're indestructible.'

  • @arcticblast3247
    @arcticblast3247 Před rokem +28

    This has been a Certified Combat Step Moment

  • @argonnas2
    @argonnas2 Před rokem +17

    Uh dryad arbor is a land Ja? 11:35

    • @Stripespin
      @Stripespin Před rokem +5

      yeah, culling ritual says "nonland" so even though it's a creature, it should've lived.

    • @merrowmania1366
      @merrowmania1366 Před rokem

      It's fine. If Cratermaker was used to kill Arbor, the same about of mana would have been made.

  • @ameliaburton5313
    @ameliaburton5313 Před rokem +8

    That was a lot better than most for a first time piloting the deck. Way to go Jim!

  • @Lazergician
    @Lazergician Před rokem +2

    My first magic played was a guilds of ravnica draft. My pack 1 pick 1 was Niv Mizzet Parun. When I learned about commander, he was my first deck. When I first heard about the Spike Feeders, I saw an episode where Jerry was playing my beloved dragon, and I became hash tag team Jerry.
    Little did I know how I had been deceived.

  • @MrGivla
    @MrGivla Před rokem +18

    For the Winota triggers, since they resolve separately you should assign who they attacking as each trigger resolves, not wait until all have resolved. It’s a small thing but gives Alex a lot more (inappropriate) information when assigning attackers cheated in from Winta

  • @MrGivla
    @MrGivla Před rokem +18

    Why did the culling ritual kill the Dryad arbor?

    • @Iron_Pope
      @Iron_Pope Před rokem +1

      Definitely should have survived it. Not sur if it would have saved the game for Elliot (probably not?). But maybe that extra velocity would have let him combo a turn earlier!

    • @nathanielreichley4640
      @nathanielreichley4640 Před rokem +1

      I also came here to mention this. It does say nonland so probably shouldn't have killed it

    • @JulioGarcia-pj8rq
      @JulioGarcia-pj8rq Před rokem

      Better question why do you get to make multiple copies of the everquill phoenix after you copy it with kikki jikki?

  • @redartifice
    @redartifice Před rokem +1

    I love tinder wall, used to be part of some cool pauper combos

  • @bend5963
    @bend5963 Před rokem +12

    Wouldn’t the blood moon make the Yavimaya a mountain, therefore turning off its effect?

    • @literNL
      @literNL Před rokem +7

      Yeah I think you're right. They're in the same layer but because of dependency, Yavimaya becomes a mountain
      Edit: Just like with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

    • @jasonandrews1770
      @jasonandrews1770 Před rokem +2

      Ud think that. But layer rules are a mess

    • @zuterwer1835
      @zuterwer1835 Před rokem

      card type changes are before ability changes. (iirc) so it should make everything a forest, then everything gets turned into mountains. it's weird like that.

  • @RossBox
    @RossBox Před rokem

    Always a delight hearing the intro tune

  • @Loop_Life
    @Loop_Life Před rokem +5

    #teamjerry

  • @SundayBbq4786
    @SundayBbq4786 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice bobcat goldthwait impression there, Eliot.

  • @TimmytheSorcerer
    @TimmytheSorcerer Před rokem +1

    Love that turn 1 Lumberjack, so many memories 😂

  • @Gmii7y
    @Gmii7y Před 6 dny +1

    How come Winota was able to attack the same turn? didn't have haste so a little confused

  • @jasonappel1253
    @jasonappel1253 Před rokem +2

    11:09 dryad arbor shouldn’t be destroyed just the utopia sprawl

  • @XavierGrim
    @XavierGrim Před rokem

    I don't think I've ever seen a pod recover from a board wipe so thorough, followed by a Doomsday pile to combo win. Magic is a wild game.

  • @WhiteWizard42
    @WhiteWizard42 Před rokem +2

    Is there a reason Jim didn't Deflecting Swat the Kiki activation on the last turn? Make it copy Order of the Sacred Torch and you've bought yourself a turn and can roll the dice on dying to Jerry instead of definitely dying to Alex.
    12:18 - half of 35 rounded up is 18, Jim should've been left at 17.
    Others have pointed out the Arbor/Culling Ritual, and Moon/Yavimaya interactions so I won't reiterate them.

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před rokem +6

      I debated swatting it, but without enough mana to hardcast the Kiki I was drawing dead after it left the top of my library. At best it extends the game with no benefit to me and at worst it's kingmaking.

    • @WhiteWizard42
      @WhiteWizard42 Před rokem

      @@TheSpikeFeeders yeah, technically you *could* cast it by sac'ing all your goblins to Prospector but then you don't really have anything to copy with it. fair enough.

  • @benjaminking3677
    @benjaminking3677 Před rokem +3

    I am just a bit confused about Yavimaya getting around the whole blood moon effect. Shouldn’t it be turned off since it’s a non basic?

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před rokem +3

      After looking it up we realized Jim got it incorrect in the moment. The relevant rule is 613.8.

  • @youngmedusa34
    @youngmedusa34 Před rokem +1

    Instant like on the video during elliot’s introduction

  • @bouncedtv
    @bouncedtv Před rokem +1

    culling ritual doesnt kill dryad arbor as it is a land.

    • @merrowmania1366
      @merrowmania1366 Před rokem

      It's fine. If Cratermaker was used to kill Arbor, the same about of mana would have been made and the game would play out the same.

  • @didupaytheone2678
    @didupaytheone2678 Před rokem +1

    Did someone say combat damage wins , in cedh ?

  • @ThatGreenGuy227
    @ThatGreenGuy227 Před rokem

    don't worry Jerry, I am 100% behind "Winota? Hardly knew 'er!"

  • @The808andrew808
    @The808andrew808 Před rokem

    If Elliot always talked like his intro, I would refuse EVERYTHING he offered!

  • @MrJ03K3rR
    @MrJ03K3rR Před rokem

    I couldn't hear because there was a bunch of other noise but did Jim say "...an s-tier blocker in this lobby?"

  • @skylardeatherage7989
    @skylardeatherage7989 Před rokem +2

    Wow I can’t believe I influenced jim so much

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před rokem +3

      Oh god skylar don't watch it was a bloodbath I am so bad at piloting this deck

  • @amros
    @amros Před rokem +6

    Everything is a Taiga? Do I not see any cards that are relevant other than Magus and Yavimaya?
    This is a layer 4 Dependency case which is the basic example where Urborg was used. Yavimaya is dependent on Magus, so it's a Mountain and will not turn everything into a Forest.

    • @Dragonothica
      @Dragonothica Před rokem

      Was looking for this comment. This is indeed true

    • @amros
      @amros Před rokem

      Adding to this: if you ever want to make a video on layers I can provide you with neat examples and explanations sourced from a presentation I did on the topic for judges.

  • @razorskatermax35
    @razorskatermax35 Před rokem

    Seriously thinking Alex has the most wins since he's shown up great games love Winota

  • @LeojPies
    @LeojPies Před rokem +1

    It's me. I'm #TeamJerry

  • @TheMarceldasilva
    @TheMarceldasilva Před rokem

    How can you use the bird on turn 2, when you just Player it. Doesn't it has summoning sickness?

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před rokem +1

      Jerry's Concordant Crossroads gave all creatures haste

    • @TheMarceldasilva
      @TheMarceldasilva Před rokem +1

      @@TheSpikeFeeders Ohhh okay, thanks for the super quick response. Good video and keep it up!:)

  • @razorskatermax35
    @razorskatermax35 Před rokem +1

    #TeamJerry

  • @ThomasMcGhie
    @ThomasMcGhie Před rokem +1

    H-hashtag king Jerry?

  • @SylveonSimp
    @SylveonSimp Před rokem

    There was very much interaction in this game...

  • @kvnsnk
    @kvnsnk Před rokem +1

    #teamJerry

  • @rubensmith776
    @rubensmith776 Před rokem

    Could they not have delayed the win by a turn by swatting the Kiki ability?

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před rokem

      With 2 cards in my library and no way to hardcast the Kiki Jiki after it was off the top of my library I had no way to win the game. No good reason to extend the game at that point.

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339 Před rokem

    Is it just me or does Jim look like Ryan George in the thumbnail

  • @ElDocBruh
    @ElDocBruh Před rokem

    Built a pretty casual Winota. Used her twice. She obliterated my opponents. I'm not sure I should run her again despite the deck having pretty mediocre creatures in it! Boros needs to chill!

  • @jeffwren7815
    @jeffwren7815 Před rokem

    Haven't even started the game yet, Winota was a mistake.

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 Před rokem

    Winota would absolutely suck if the creatures she brought in weren't indestructible, she would be a typical boros commander

  • @Trokee
    @Trokee Před rokem

    Couldn’t Elliot win turn 2? Getting Kiki and using it to make a bunch of bell ringers and win?

  • @chrisellis5518
    @chrisellis5518 Před rokem +1

    dryad arbor doesnt die to culling ritual, cuz its a land

    • @merrowmania1366
      @merrowmania1366 Před rokem

      It's fine. If Cratermaker was used to kill Arbor, the same about of mana would have been made and the game would play out the same.

  • @natalialialia964
    @natalialialia964 Před 10 měsíci

    MY GIRL DRYAD ARBOR IS A LAND CARD

  • @p1k4nurxp13sr
    @p1k4nurxp13sr Před rokem

    I see Rocco, I like. To be fair though, I’m not a fan of food chain in rocco due to how poorly it layers.

  • @P3rvenc
    @P3rvenc Před rokem

    Culling does not kill dryad arbor

    • @merrowmania1366
      @merrowmania1366 Před rokem

      It's fine. If Cratermaker was used to kill Arbor, the same about of mana would have been made and the game would play out the same.

  • @DiploRadio
    @DiploRadio Před rokem

    Ritual doesnt kill dryad arbor ..

    • @merrowmania1366
      @merrowmania1366 Před rokem

      It's fine. If Cratermaker was used to kill Arbor, the same about of mana would have been made and the game would play out the same.

  • @om3n430
    @om3n430 Před rokem

    Elliot, new cringe level reached

  • @jacobbecicka2291
    @jacobbecicka2291 Před rokem +3

    #teamjerry

  • @siggesg
    @siggesg Před rokem +1

    #TeamJerry

  • @alexmcgregor8658
    @alexmcgregor8658 Před rokem +4

    #teamjerry

  • @ThatGreenGuy227
    @ThatGreenGuy227 Před rokem +1

    #teamjerry

  • @Caludot
    @Caludot Před rokem

    #teamjerry

  • @PhoenixRNH
    @PhoenixRNH Před rokem

    #teamjerry