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The other day Eminem dissed Jay-Z in his new song "Tobey". Watch as American rapper "Crypt" reacts to and breaks down Eminem and Jay-Z's song "Renegade." In this video, he will explore the rhyme styles, schemes, and reasons why each person has their own strengths in their verses.
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RAPPER REACTS to Eminem & Jay Z - Renegade - Hudba
Did Eminem really wash Jay Z?
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I'm probably one of the few that like Jay's verse more than Eminem's
@@nathanielperryii296I feel like they both were even but em cam up on top but sometimes I prefer jays verse
Not even gonna likw to you @YoungNRestlessRecordz artists go back n forth like this
I like Em's verse more overall but I think they both killed the track. I don't think Em washed him by any means
What’s funny is Ems verses are practically identical to when this was a song with he and Royce. Jay-Z had every chance to out perform Em, but couldn’t.
That, to this day, shocks me. 😂
he didnt bc it wasnt a competition until outsider made it one
Its always a comp@@raymanjohan8838
@@raymanjohan8838it’s always a competition
@@raymanjohan8838um it's hip hop... These guys collab will always compete to have the best verse
Eminem's verses were so much more complex and much better.
He deserves to be number one in the greatest of all time list.
Above Jay and Kendrick but not Nas or Pac
@@rt-rd5of I disagree. :) He's better than Nas and Pac, too.
no
@@rt-rd5ofgo listen to EMPD 2 Em killed Nas on that! I love Nas! He’s in my top 5 but Em is the goat, no question!!
@Mockingbirddontsing1 Yea em verse ruined that song for me. I have to skip his part. The vibe of the song changed for the worse and he wasnt matching the content
That em verse is probably the greatest technical verse ever with the cadence
Not even close. Eminem ate on that track. J was in his shadow
That’s why they call him Slim Shady
I don’t think people noticed when he reply to J immediately.
“Can step on my pants can’t walk in my shoes” to immediately get hit with “ and if the shoes fits I wear it but if it don’t ya can swallow the truth grin and bear it”
Thats why he's the GOAT
Just like Jay-Z got absolutely bodied by Big L on the 94 Stretch and Bobbito Freestyle. Jay-Z regularly gets bodied by features or group freestyles. I'm not sure how he's seen as a Top 5 rapper. Producer? I'll give you. As a rapper he doesn't even make my Top 25.
@@mapeloco54321not a response to anything Jay said since em had his verses completed months before Jay put his on the track
Em murdered him with the first verse one of his best verses ever imo
Eminem's rhyming are so advanced and perfectly put together it's just art
a modern day Shakespear
@@marshmellow-pq9zr The King of these latter day saints
Snoop, Nas and everyone else who are in the house of hip hop all have said Em washed, Killed, Destroyed Jay Z, I have an Em bias as far as who I listen to more, Jay did his thing and has nothing to be ashamed of but when you're honest and look at everything critically who can do what Em does?? I've seen people say Busta had the better verse on calm down 😂, he definitely had the more energetic verse but when you sit with the lyrics in front of you and nothing else it's not even close. Stay Blessed Crypt 👊🏼
Its all so true
I agree!! Em WASHED HIM!!😂😂😂
so why did eminem after this verse came out put Jay ahead of 2pac Biggie Nas and himself if he thought he killed Jay? Lmao lemme see ur logic on that
@@LBJ6james Not sure if you know Eminem very well. He is/was very humble and has always respected anyone that has respected him and has always shown lots of respect to the very best or greatest rappers. His whole rock n roll hall of fame speech was naming almost everyone that came before him and got him to that point. He actually says, 'they should be here instead of me'. He gives them respect and recognition. Does so also with most of his songs references rapper's, groups, albums, songs most people don't even realise it is happening because he just blends it in seamlessly.
Renegade was released in 2001 Em was still newish at the time. so this was over 20 years ago. He was never saying he was the greatest back then only now he has had enough of all the disrespect. Gatekeeping.
@@marshmellow-pq9zr LOL so did Jay Z in his hall of fame speech.. Stop with this humble bs narrative.. JayZ the only rapper in the Song Writers Hall Of Fame for a reason. Not even Em is in it
Bro, your videos are gold.
bro whut!!? i literally just came from the Forever reaction like 2 videos ago and i saw some guy suggested this and you responded, and literally less than 30minutes later this drops! whut!!?
I was the one that suggested it 😂😂😂😂
Cuz it don't take long lol just got press record then uploaded it
Interesting perspective, got me thinking!
Substance is subjective but skill is objective.. this is why Em bodied jay on this joint
Em got the better of Jay, but Nas propaganda in Ether turned it into Em "murdered you on your own shit"
He did murder him ,we were just afraid to say it , Nas said what we were thinking
@@sidiquegeloo1816 so why did eminem after this verse came out put Jay ahead of 2pac Biggie Nas and himself if he thought he killed Jay? Lmao lemme see ur logic on that. Dont tell me Eminem was being humble if this was competition
@@LBJ6james are you serious? You can be a greater Rapper than me, but it's possible that I can still murder you on your own song...Jay Z Is a greater Rapper than Eminem but Eminem is a better Rapper
Eminem is GOAT
"eminem murdered you on your own shit" - Nas
Em rules
This guy probably got straight A's in school analyzing texts during exam
I actually think he ended up dropping out of school.
i believe he got held back for years and eventually flunked out lol
I love these videos, I have been listening to Eminem for over 15 years and I am still discovering how genius his rhyme schemes are and all the double entendres he includes in his rap. When you break it down for us you make it a lot easier for me to understand and that makes me appreciate Eminem's music even more.
Great break down. And good call, it irks me when they miss rhymes just due to the spelling of the word 🤦♂️
If anyone ever said Jay Z didn’t do his thing on this they just are clueless.. He snapped.. But that boy Eminem is just different man.. He went absolutely crazy.. Jay Z shouldnt get shit for gettin outshined by Eminem on this cuz every single rapper in history woudlve got outshined by Eminem on this.. He was in such a zone at this time.. It’s level of rap I don’t think we will ever see again.. Eminem definitely was bit by a GOAT
Fun fact, Jay-Z sat on Eminem's verse for about a year before the song "Renegade" went live. Eminem originally recorded his verses and the beat for another collaboration with Royce da 5'9" in 2000. Jay-Z later approached Eminem to use the song for his album, and Eminem agreed, re-recording his verses for the new version. The song was eventually released on Jay-Z's album "The Blueprint" in September 2001.
I prefer Em's verse but definitely think it's a lot closer than most people seem to say. Honestly, this is just one of the best pure rap songs ever. Just two legends doing their thing without a single wasted moment on the entire song.
Haha i still find it so funny that em destroyed Jay-Z given that it already a pre written and record song from Marshall. It wasn't no claim down with Busta were they going back and forward haha Busta has said i going to let him Jay-Z me on my own track
Jay Z has a different flow. His verses are fire. Eminem laid down two such utterly lyrically succinctly perfect flows. It's mind-blowing.
The personality shines through and keeps viewers coming back.
The real question is: Who came in 2nd? Jay or Royce?
Royce
Royce but I don't mind jay verse but for me he is to monotone.
Thumbnail on point 😂
One of my favourite Eminem song tbh soo good. Love the flow from both of them
Idk if the bar is necessarily based on anyone but everyone as a whole, he really believes he is the goat of his craft and tbf he makes a great point of proving it😂
The color thing is hilarious. They're so desperate to make Jay-Z's rhyme schemes far more complex than they are, when many are just random syllables. You can do the same thing with any regular conversation. You can do it with Crypt's commentary about this song, or my comment right now. Find every word with a similar vowel sound and make it one color. That's not rhyming, it's just speaking a language that only has five base vowels, so of course many words will "rhyme."
Em's verse is light years ahead of Jay's verse, and this song was peak Jay lyricism btw. He was never better than this.
But Em has only improved since then.
@@marshmellow-pq9zr no he hasnt.. not one em album since 444 has touched it
@@LBJ6james I see you listen to all the noise created by the gatekeeping community. He has been getting trashed by the so-called experts for over 20 years because they knew they had to discredit him. If you actually listen to Em's music, you would understand the levels he has. I stand by my comment his lyrical ability flows cadence rhyme patterns double/ triple entendres storytelling it goes on and on.
@@marshmellow-pq9zr Eminem was in his prime and said Jay Z name over Pac Biggie Nas. Im sorry bro but it happened. When EM stopped rapping for 6 yrs.. Jay was on College Dropout, Late Registration, had a song dedicated to him on Graduation, on Tha Carter 3, Drake, J Cole, And Kendricks debut album, on MBDTF.. Sorry but he was always the CULTURE.. thats why Kendrick mentioned him on Mr Morale and his grammy speeches. You can deny it all you want but Jay been the Capo ever sinc
Genuinely one of my favorite collabs. Em definitely had the better verse but Jay still had an amazing performance
To be honest, I've always looked at it like this. When Jay-Z rapped in the 1st verse, it was kinda aggressive. But after eminems verse, Jay's tone changed, he sounded more calm but like a "I'm still upset" type calm. 😳🤯🔥
classic song
I wouldnt say we'll NEVER see another song like this, especially with new Em coming out so soon
The highlight video was sick
This is my favorite era of em, everything seemed so effortless and just rolled out perfectly. Now it seems like you can clearly hear he’s trying hard to rhyme everything. Still untouchable even today
That's the trick tho, he is not forcing or trying he just does whatever he wants, however he wants effortlessly.
Does everyone also remember Jay Z doesn’t write out his rhymes? He does it all in his head. Where Em does. I still think Em kills it cause his versatility in his flow but Jay is a BEAST in his own right. They need to do another song.
"Eminem murdered you on your own sh**" - Nas
Eminem on this song kills anyone on this song. I’m not a Jay z fan but he also did great In this song, just no one would’ve outdid Eminem on this song and makes him look bad when he did better than prob anyone else would’ve in the same situation, he’s just the unfortunate one on it lol.
I love these breakdowns. I hope you do one for Em's verse on best friend . Happy 4th of July 🎉
Two masters of rap, but EMs Flow is ridiculous.
Hands down, he washed him…
Jay wasn't a master of rap. He was a master of being backed by the music industry from Day 1. Same with Kendrick.
@@JakeKoenig They are pushing so hard for Kendrick to be the best ever. I'm sure Em is pissed at all this gate keeping segregation.
@@JakeKoenigJay and Kendricks discography’s are 10x better than Em’s
@@marshmellow-pq9zrliterally what does that mean. Kendrick has a way better discography than Eminem.
@@sean___7___596 I see you just recite what all the so-called hip-hop expert have been pushing for the last 20 years it's gatekeeping. Em discography is extremely good. You can tell the people that haven't listened and just go with the pushed narrative. Like everything he has put out since The Eminem Show has been rubbish. Like seriously he has been getting better not worse. They don't want the Goat of hip-hop to be white its always brought up.
Not Like Us is used as an anthem now it's a segregation song. Pretty much beat Drake by using race to win. Not saying your like that but just saying how it is.
Jay has really only had any hits with being a feature or having a feature. Go Spotify top 8 songs all features. Not bagging him but in the last 25 years he has never been the most talked about name in hip-hop. Like the biggest act in the world. one of the best songs with Jay is numb he actually has some passion in his voice otherwise he almost always stays the same monotone.
I think there are a lot of black rappers better then Ken and Jay for that matter but that can be subjective to.
Thank you for this
This is a em and royce song originally and Jayz had every opportunity to out perform em and he didnt.
Second jayz verse will never be topped...the content...
7:25 in fact the 'Specially rhymes with stress to me perfectly
🔥🔥🔥🔥
800th like. Thanks for the video.
I love Jay Z but his biggest flaw is his delivery, if he had more fluctuation, he would be the undispute goat. People always talk about Em's lyricism but for me his biggest asset in his prime was his variety of flows.
Jay almost always sounds the same monotone.
Jay Z’s delivery is terrible to me. But his penmanship is great though. But even with a better delivery, Eminem would still be better to me. But it all depends on the person because they both have different upbringings that relate to different people. I heard Jay Z a lot growing up, more than I did Eminem, and I just couldn’t get into him. I only got into Eminem mainly in high school back in like 2009-13 but only with a few songs. Jay Z has never made it onto my playlist… even Lil Wayne was on my playlist with Milli and Make It Rain and even then I wasn’t much of a fan of him either. Specifically due to the way he sounded. But, overall, I can’t deny their craft. Just not my taste. But their place as one of the greatest to ever do it, they deserve it.
@@traceurs619this is literally insane to me like….wow. Make it rain isn’t even Wayne song he’s a feature. Lmao Jay z has a great delivery and is very charismatic he’s just kinda nonchalant about it, and he’s witty and actually pretty slick if you pay attention but…idk im not saying all his shit is dope it’s not lol, but you can’t tell me he’s not up there in sorrry, and as for Wayne he has sooooooo much better music than fuckin a milli lmao
@@romaretaylor9953 I never said he wasn’t up there. He’s just not up there on MY list, personally. And Wayne probably does have better songs. But, he’s not my cup of tea. I’d put him above Jay Z though.
@@traceurs619 obvs u have that first comment if wayne not ''my cup of tea'' u stans are shameles..
Update the music video has been pushed back to this Monday 7/8
I've always thought this argument was irrelevant and this is just further proof for me cause they both SNAPPED!🔥
not a lot of people know this but this song isnt jay or ems, it was originally a royce track with em as the feature with the same verses, royce had saomething coming out when this was supposed to be released but he told em to give it to jay
Buen video Crypt
I think it’s a matter of personal preference what the order is, honestly. My top 5 is black thought, Eminem, Nas, Jay, Royce Da 5’9”. While I don’t expect Royce or Thought to be in most average listener’s top 5, the other 3 I do. At that point the placement in the top 5 is the respect they deserve and the order is preference.
However, when an organization like Billboard creates a list they try to make it seem like it is objective and stated fact. I have zero issue with any rapper in that top 5 stating they should be number 1 and being competitive with the others in their pursuit of proving it. That is why I love what Eminem said.
i think nas saying jay got washed by em was playing up a little for the dis, cut the man where it hurts. but because it was said on a winning dis, people took it as fact without really diving in to question it. def closer than nas said, but i don't think jay was quite on par with em. no one really is.
Rhymes highlighted are always impressive, but anytime its eminem theres more Colours than a Pride parade lol, guys actually not human
I agree with you Crypt
Omg😂💀 I've never looked at the lyrics, I always thought Jay said "I only talk about jews" and was very confused. Jewels makes more sense.
Take in Em and royce did help create Jay's verse
Gave him a big old bubble bath
Bruh its no comparison. You gotta remember em already had this song with royce & he didnt change a single thing in his verse while Jay had plenty of time to get on em's level. The video even showing it
awesome
I love eminem reactions. Looking forward to more
You really see the gap between them when you watch the live performance of this track. Em is too clean and sharp with his delivery on top of the bars that are just that bit more punchy. Cadence is just sick.
👾
Just crazy that it was Em premade verse
Em is so smooth on this, a masterclass. J breaks the flow so many times although, yeah, he's got some schemes. Nas is on point...."Em murdered you on your own s***".
I’ve never felt Jay-Z was washed. I felt it was ALWAYS a battle of equals. I know I’m in the minority with that thought, but I still feel that way. I’m a Brooklyn boy, so I identify with what Jay talks about. I’m also a fan of lyricism, so I can completely understand how people feel that Em had the better verses.
However, I think it was a special song because it’s also the only feature on The Blueprint. The battle of the gods put on display for the world to see. Just my two cents.
I still think the original was better with em and royce. I think most people feel j got bodied also stems from the fact em already had the verse written and j didnt outperform it
Do 8 Mile, and/or Run Rabbit Run, 2 of my favorites
8 mile is honestly my favorite Eminem song, such a great track
I feel like its also important to note that Em's verse is 4 years older from the original song meant for Royce Da 5'9. Jay heard Em's verse and wrote his after.......Em's verse was unchanged and still came out on top.
It is not just rhymes and lyrics that set Eminem apart from others, it's his delivery, Just like Jay-Z said "It becomes percussion inside the music."
And I'll treat the beat like a pitbull would do to a chew toy and destroy it,
do not forget..jay got the song with Em verse already done..and still couldnt body easy
The reason EM’s verses were better is because they felt smoother and not forced. Jay Z, had great rhyming schemes but they didn’t flow together as well, make as much sense nor were they as smooth. In my opinion Em definitely wins.
Both verses are one of the best, but em's delivery and flow were just on point.
Yo CRYPT!! I’ve never left a messages but I love your music bro!! ‘Who You Know?’ Was a forest fire dude!! Slayed that shit!….watched your vids for a while and with this one I GOTTA KNOW…. you’re a long time/lifetime fan of 9 just like me and I’ve always thought about this line he had on his KILLER album song titled ‘Why You Ain’t Call Me’ I believe…. He says “But I woulda LOVED to have been on the 3rd verse of Renegade” I’m just curious if you think back then there was any chance Techa Ninna coulda run away with the whole track???? Beat J AND EM
Speedom Em ran away already over Tech N9ne doing Tech own style.
@@marshmellow-pq9zr sure thing did yep too cool when tech now for sure wow.
after all the videos ive seen about this song i got to give it to em for inviting jay, jay brought his S game and we got a masterpiece
Do stay wide awake with the highlighted lyrics if you have time, nice reaction.
This was the last time Jay Z was even close. Yeah he did a great job here but overall, MN is by far the better rapper.
Not even close Eminem ripped it on the track as lil Wayne once said “ that boys a monster”
Wayne loved Jay too lol, I agree em got him but Jay was fire on here he’s the best at simple but clever writing imo it’s layers
@@romaretaylor9953 lmao right wayne has said it countless times that Hov the GOAT
name a year Jay was poppin..name Jay top albums..Jay did something that made rappers put him on 1..he never had a nr 1 song..the OG’s have more hits and better albums then him…for me nas em and wayne are most consistent
People seems to not realize, eminem had that song made way before with royce, and didn’t change anything on his verse, jay verses came after, yet he couldn’t outshined em, I don’t listen to jay because his voice never change, I don’t see any emotion in any of his songs
yes monotone almost.
It's not even close. Jay must have smashed a couple of TV's after listening to this.
😂 why he was great on here, lol besides em recorded his verses first on here technically
Royce and Crooked I are only rappers who can be shoulder to shoulder with Em... Sometimes even outrap him... Royce has that incredible skill to rhyme with one syllable, than switch to another, than after 1-2 lines he switch back but also he change speed at the same time.... He start verse and u never know where he will go, its like he opens up few paths and than through out the song he chose one , than another, than another..... one of good examples is line with "bank job" in song Above The Law...
Every time I listen to this I get hyped. I go in knowing I liked em's verse better then I hear Jay's and I'm like hold on, he killed this is em's verse really that much better?
With verses that are more memorable and easily repeat.
"I got nothing to do but make you look stupid as parents.
Fucking do gooder, to bad you couldn't do good at marriage!"
Or
"The new ice cube mother fuckers hate to like you. What did I do?
Again easy to repeat, sounds so good and hard coming off the tongue and it's relatable for a bunch of misfits on top of that.
Whoever won in anyone's eye the one thing nobody can deny is this is definitely one of hip hop's best song ever created.
I feel he was talkin about drake on tobey. I dont believe he said any specific list but drake has been put before him before. And plus theres the drake/kendrick beef goin rn. He could also be referring to kanye since big sean said something about no mercy and implying (imo) there were issues.
I think we should just accept there can be multiple great rappers, two greats
One good song do to comparison is We Aint - Game feat. Eminem.. Eminem rhymed all verse same syllables... A -A -A .....
Eminem is so far ahead of Jay now and forever.
People who put Jay Z in the top 5 are absolutely nuts
Jayz said dont no step to me im awkward. I box left too you often. my pop left me an orphan. my mama wasnt home
Thankyou CRYPT...🐫 Is the subliminal master,so Em playing him at his own game !
you should do “Right for me”s rhyme scheme reaction shits wild
They say this song is where Eminem got his respect in the Hood. Going Toe to Toe with Jay-Z on his own song. PLOT TWIST; This song was originally Eminem's ft Royce Da 5'9. So Eminem got respect in the hood for a song HE GAVE Jay-Z. Is he still a guest...?
All imma say is when Jay Z does something good, it's his god tier for him and he's snapping
When Em does something casually it's done better and it's not even a big deal for him
You have to check Stay wide awake rhymes brakedown. Goated
Yes
Reading the Lyrics really helped me out to see the Schemes and connections. Eminem definitely outdid Jay-Z on this Track.
El Pistolero - MGK
HIS BEST RAP SONG OF HIS CAREER
SHIT IS ABOUT TO BREAK THE INTERNET
You should react to some Cambatta, dude’s an insanely underrated lyricist. Pretty sure he holds like a 12 syllable rhyme scheme in his song about Nikola Tesla
I think of this as the Ronaldo/Messi debate. Sure, you can prefer how one plays football, or argue about most awards, most goals, most assists, most impact in important games etc. But this song is like those two put up against each other, and one of them does the performance of his life, yet the other guy just outshines him on the spot.
All this to say, Jay Z's verse is incredible. It's so great. Maybe my favourite Jay Z song of all time. And Eminem's verse is just significantly better on all accounts.
Eminem's verse gets a lot of credit for sure, but I think sometimes it's underrated because people don't realize just how good Jay Z is on this song.
Thats a very good analogy. I'm not a Jay fan but I actually like his verse, but Em is just a different monsta.
@@marshmellow-pq9zr I like some Jay songs and verses, and this is at the very top for me. It's genuinely some of his best work.
Eminem stomps it, which is difficult for me to understand. I listen to the whole song and I think Eminem is clearly better. Then I listen to Jay's part and I can find anything wrong with it. It feels like a flawless song from him. It's crazy.
This is one of the best verses for both of them but Em did outperform on this. I love his verses.
Renegade is one of the best songs ever. Big ups to jay and Em 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣
at 5mins it was already over, people give jayz to much credit for being a so called legend, dude inst in my top 10