1 Ore in, 5 Ingots Out With Mekanism
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- We check out Mekanism and it's awesome ability to duplicate ore 2X, 3X, 4X and even 5X!!! You've been out mining a hard days work and come home with your haul. Throw it in the machine and bingo bango bongo you've got 5 times more ingots than you put in ore. From this you can follow along and craft your own 5X system.
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Can we take a moment to apreciate how he is powering those huge and complex machines with kitchen sinks, that why you dont leave the tap open
Hahaha so true
does the sink work still? im not getting water out of it
@@mattbritez dont forget to use the configurator to set the pipe to out
@@JBH_Media yep, that was totally the problem. I didnt have a configurator at that time. Thanks!
well, i mean, com'on, its prolly flint, mich water coming out of that thing, thats kinda cheating. :P :)
Here are the times for those interested
0:27 - Ore duplication in other mods
5:37 - Tier 0 (1x)
6:39 - Tier 1 (2x)
7:52 - Tier 2 (3x)
14:40 - Tier 3 (4x)
22:45 - Tier 4 (5x)
33:34 - Different machine tiers (Basic, Advanced, Elite)
35:19 - Tier 4 Upgraded
37:58 - Super crazy ore duplication machine
That's pretty awesome. Thank you.
Im suprised that most mekanism tutorials don't show the ultimate upgrades
@@ika-i i think there are not in every modpack included... in sf4 there wasnt... now im playing valhalsia 2 and there are included
@@Soulleey yeah I realized that in 1.12.2 ultimate tiers didn't exist but in 1.15.2 they do
Mekanism: realistic chemistry
Also Mekanism: just dump reactive sodium, no big deal
Also also Mekanism: *carries polonium pellets in bare hands*
Why don't you have more subs and views? This was one of the top 5 most organized and informative tutorials I've seen in my years of Minecrafting! Wonderful work!
+Brenden Vilendrer thanks a lot. I really appreciate the kind words.
because we sat through 10 minutes of information NOT on 5x ore processing. No average age minecrafter has that kind of patience.
The views are just ok (at least on this video), but the sub numbers are so low...
@@oblyx An idea, you seem to in this video go into an Idle talk mode and ramble a bit. Might want to write what you want to say and try to repeat as little as possible. its kinda bouncing off the brain stop silence like you are trying to to think what you want to say. that will increase your production video i know this is a year old so maybe you've moved on to resolving that but just a tip.
@@oblyx 100% Agree with this guy. Tutorials with this level of clarity and structural setup is extremely hard to come by. Well done, you got yourself a subscriber ^^
I had never seen a tutorial this organised ! I'll definitly leave a like. i followed each of your steps and did mine x5 ore reprocessor. All thanks to you. Thank you vey much.
Thanks for the kind words. Glad I could help.
11:05 Just as a heads up, there is an addon called mekanismOres that adds compatibility with metals from other mods, including most if not all of the ores you mentioned.
Thx
There is also JAOPCA
When you're watching at 3 am
Super weird.... I'm currently watching at 3:14 am....
And I'm responding to you watch at 3:19am. We all need some sleep.
@@smoochie1594 I'm a bit late but I'm watching at 3:14 am too and this is kinda creepy
oblyx 3:00 on the dot here... coincidence? I think not!
pricken2000 even better when you’re watching at 4:20 am ;)
Thanks for this precious information. This will save me tons of time the next time i play a modpack. Mekanism is a must from now on!
It's one of my favorite mods for sure.
Oh fuck this mod is the best i use it with tinker construct
"You can just make the arc furnace "
One doesn't just make an arc furnace
I do love me some arc furnace
Ah, yes, I also get all of my water for my heavy-duty ore-processing line from my kitchen sink
it's awesome!
You can actually ore quadruple with thermal expansion, if you use blazing pyrotheum with an augment in an induction smelter, and use cinnabar or rich slag instead of slag or sand
Yup yup, but 5 is better than 4 and so much dinner to build. 😁
Cinnebar and rich slag are hard to produce, and can't be produced reliably, whereas this setup just has the initial cost investment, then all resources (besides power) are free.
@@Nanamowa thechnically if you use the gas burning generator you could auto produce energy too
@@Nanamowa that's amazing tbh. Completely free
@@Nanamowa Not that you probably care at this point, but you can easily create rich slag by using the igneous extruder and 2 pulverizers to make sand, and an item that can be recrafted from its induction smelter output. Compasses and clocks are the usual suspects but with a loss of redstone, and I think (depending on any configs you have) gears can be done the same way at no loss - except for power. With 4 sieves in your induction smelter you have a 50% chance of rich slag
Thank you! I’ve heard of 5x ore-duplication but have never tried. Thanks for the very informative tutorial!
Glad I could help. To me, it's a really fun build. Let me know how yours comes out when you get it up.
It can be self sustaining if you process flint into gunpowder from crushing gravel (tier4)
Where are you gonna get gravel from?
@@mr.obvious4810 auto hammering cobble, getting cobble from cobble generator. Completely automated
you can also get sulfur from a SAG Mill (Ender IO) crushing netherrack. Get netherrack from a digital miner in the nether.
@@SmokelessMeme just using cobble is much more efficent
@@SmokelessMeme i think the most modpacks dont use enderio and mekanism at the same time... maybe just modpacks like ATM3...
You talk exactly like the best teachers i've had. Laying everything out clearly and at an understandable speed. Thanks for the video
I am here once again to receive knowledge with Mekanism machines. Hands down best guide, must have come back here 3 or 4 times over the years to refresh myself on the workings of this Mod.
This is actually the best tutorial I've ever seen... most just ramble or go threw stuff you already know.... you are clear and concise and dont go through any unneeded BS thanks man
Thank you
Thank you Oblyx, I enjoy your teaching style. Thank you for all the time you put into this, it looks like something I might try to do one day... :P
Thanks for watching. It is a fun system to build especially if you think hey water (H2O) does actually consist of hydrogen and oxygen, and there is double the hydrogen to the amount of oxygen per bucket of water, and to see Mekanism actually work that way. The armchair scientist in me loves the logic employed in the mod.
Indeed, it;s had me intrigued.. too
I'm sure you could build a cool looking factory for it, with the different colored pipes running all over the place. Could look pretty neat.
*Plugs pipe into sink* Hahaha water machine go *pppssssttt*
I love your slow methodical way of doing the tutorial. It was well prepared for and out together; good job. As someone who knows a bit about mechanism, the tutorial did my head in going over the same things repeatedly. But for a new player, this tutorial is gold. Personally I would of turned that hydrogen into etherlene earlier on to make a powerful power generation system. 1 feeding the gases to the machines, and 1 making etherlene for a gas burner or 5
This was created many years ago when hydrogen fuel was a thing and produced tons of cheap power. That's since been patched and current versions you have to use ethylene.
Such a well explained video. Not only was I able to follow the video to build one of these but also understand how it works.
Awesome. Glad it helped.
Man I gotta say, even years later I still come back to your guides when dealing with mekanism because they are just THAT good, thank you for doing such good work man
I appreciate the kind words. Thank you.
When you're playing with Alchemistry installed: 0 ore in -> infinite ingots out
You say that like it’s an ore generator that generates ores from nowhere
how
For further ore processing, there is AOBD (Another One Bites the Dust) which allows practically any ore to be processed in any system. But only on 1.7.10 :(.
And, as you said, the Crystalizer is the issue, while the Dissolution Chamber is at the same "speed", the inputs generate slurry worth of 5 ingot already, and the Washer is simply faster. 2 Dissolution Chambers into 2 Washers and 7 Crystalizers should be enough.
A note to future builders: Be sure that you really WANT 5x ores. That's right, you'll never need anything past 4x, it's more a convenience and fancy setup than anything else. The power, material and space requirements are about 4x the previous tier.
True it is expensive in terms of resources and power. However, it leads you to be able to build things such as the Induction Matrix, in which you will want every ingot you can get, which also means you probably already have a reactor. In mekanism it's very much a case of one machine leads to another, and they support each other.
on 1.12.2, there's JAOPCA which is a similar thing to AOBD (and has some addons itself!), or the more specific MekanismOres addon if you're only looking to add Mek compat for other ores :)
I remember when I tripled my ores in the volts modpack, and I busted in to my brothers room and started raving about it.
Just in case anyone is playing the 1.12 version (Mek v9?), Hydrogen is no longer a net positive power gain in the gas burning generator, you must first turn it in to Ethylene to be power positive.
Sad noises :(
Dude finding this video made my life...lmao..... you have simplified this for me and helped me understand how to get started.... thank you so much!!
Glad it helped.
Very nice tutorial. I really needed this dumbed down for me, so having individual builds for each tier helped a lot.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad it helped.
I like your tutorial more then most. Actually go through and describe where each pipe goes into, and separate them to show the differences in tiers. Some other tutorials I watched have had them congealed and all messy-like.
Thanks a lot for a simple and easy to follow tutorial. I sometimes often return to your video every now and then for a refresher on how x5 is set up.
Instead of making hydrogen chloride, I made a Thermal Evaporation Chamber and turned the brine into salt via several ingot formers. Now slap 10x speed upgrades in each of them and now you're pissing nothing but salt.
This video covers everything but the kitchen sink :D Jokes aside, so refreshing to see a video without a 2 minute video reminding me what the like/subscribe button does, followed by 30% of the video showing me crafting recipes that I can get in NEI/HEI, etc... Good job.
Couple things; The machine at end that bottlenecked to 64 stack at end, could make 2 machines, but if it bottleneck down the line then each of those would have to be doubled. However, that is if you want ingots right away which judging by design cost probably won't be an issue at this stage in the game, anyways.
Another thing, since you are not likely going to be processing ore non-stop, the tanks you have could be also used to store the output of brine during "non processing times", as a buffer in that process.
The gold slurry seemed like a bottleneck, too, but that could be scaled up, or the 1st line of machines scaled down, accordingly. Not that it's an issue, but that would be what's needed.
I haven't messed with the evaporator/brine producer so am unsure of its output rate. Anyways, can't wait to try messing with this in a couple days. I'm working on a computer craft program to indefinetly put down digital miners or quarry setups, that will have turtle #1 placing all quarrying items in place, with turtle #2 following behind placing down a chunkloader. Then a tesseract that will send the ores back to base, for a virtually infinite input of ores, lol....
Amazing tutorial! One of the very few tutorial videos out there that kept me interested and attentive, especially for how long and in-depth it was! Excellent!
Thank you. I appreciate the kind words.
To make it more mentally involved, I stopped when you named the chemical needed to run one of the ore processing machines, then i paused and figured out how to make that chemical myself. It was very exciting.
Loved the video btw. You did awesome at explaining it.
that's an awesome way to approach it. I love that moment of 'I got this".
This is the first time I've seen better than double and I'm absolutely amazed. Granted I don't have much experience with mods, but I'm still impressed
Cool, glad to have shown you something new. Give it a try budding it. It's a ton of work but fun. You could make a really cool looking factory out of it.
I dont even use this mod, but the tutorial was so good that i stayed
Thanks Lucas
Welcome to the Bob Ross of minecraft!
Happy little trees. 😃
@@oblyx haha yes indeed :D
Hey +oblyx I want to say this has been a great tutorial. I have used this multiple times as a go back video for setting up 5x ore duplication. One thing I wanted to chime in on is instead of gunpowder for sulfur you can setup a Pressurized Reaction Chamber and feed it coal to get sulfur. The reaction chamber only needs a electrolytic separator and kitchen sink thrown in for all of the ingredients for this method. Since coal is much more easily accessible in game than creeper farming is my thought.
Thanks for the kind words. Yeah there are actual quite a few was to get there. For the video I tried to focus on one that was easily sustainable on term after setup. I didn't go the coal route because you either have to mine it or setup a digital miner and keep moving it. If I were playing with only Mekanism I'd probably use coal until I got a vanilla creeper farm setup. I built a really awesome one in my vanilla series not long ago for rockets. Anyway, I'm glad the video has been a good reference for you. Thanks again.
It pretty amazing how you introduced everything in one go without cut or taking a break
Thanks, just practice.
Thank you very much for the video. I was a beginner before watching it. And now I have learned how to play it ~!
What a beautiful sight~!
+TongYuan Liu awesome! I'm glad I could help. Thanks for watching.
Very succinct and clear, extremely easy to follow, absolutely wonderfully executed!
Thank you
You could probably do that last crazy setup you had but instead of 11 groups washing processing gold have one group for each ore type so everything smelts evenly, that's probably what they had in mind for that elite machinery
Eight ways to skin a cat as they say around these parts.
The instructions were unclear.. It seems I have been slain by Harlaus the king of Swadia
*lol*
i feel old getting the reference
@@garethc9052 yeah, all the bannerlord wait memes and now it’s finally out
@@thecheeseman4296 i know haha, loved all the glitches in first release
the trading system was so broken
What?
When using the electrolytic separator, you can just dump the hydrogen itself.
You will always use the oxygen when you need ingots, that means you don't need to keep the machine on and let it use power to DUMP oxygen anyways, you can just let it produce it as you use it.
Im a little late to hop on the minecraft train but let me just say that this was an excellent video. You could really tell how much work was put into the demonstration and explanation for each tier for mekanism. Really well done, confused as to why you dont have more subs, really rare to find such structure in videos, earned a sub for sure!
Thank you Enrique. The nice comment is very appreciated.
@@oblyx :) Keep doing these vids, id love to see a playthrough!
Jesus turned water into brine, oblyx turns water into brine
Hahaha...so true.
Still responding after 3 years? What a king.
Y'all take the time to comment, least I can do is take note. Thank you.
Just found your channel, and I am glad I did. Love your stuff and can't wait to watch more!!!
In Thermal you can get a tall spruce tree, connect up four Arboreal Extractors to a Fractionating Still using Fluiducts, transfer the resin to the Still to make Rosin, use it to infinitely power the Still with a Steam Dynamo connected with the Still with some Itemducts hooked up to an Aqueous Accumulator running back into the Still, and then use the tree oil processed from the resin in the Still to a Compression Dynamo with an Aqueous Accumulator with some more Fluiducts and the connect up the Dynamos with Fluxducts to whatever setup you have :)
And now I have a headache. 😉
since Mek's lasers can break blocks (with the default settings), you can use a vanilla cobble gen setup to create the blocks over hoppers (or use Mek's laser tractor beam), and then crush the cobble into gravel, purify the gravel into flint, and crush the flint into gunpowder, using only Mek + vanilla :) idk if the laser being a blockbreaker is something added after this vid was made?
Never tried that, but sounds like an interesting idea. I like the complexity of it.
This works, my x6 is fully automatic with mekanism and thermal for ore multiplication, this for gunpowder, quantum miner and digital miner for ore, and AE2 for storage, compressed all into blocks i have no idea what to do with all this ore XD.
@@aidanhancock2117 x6??????????? Wot? now im interested, today i almost completed my x4 ore mekanism process with some modpack i like, but i never heard of that configuration, sorry for the late question but could you explain me if you want?
@@jorgelozoya6739 its not pure mekanism, instead of using a crusher, a Pulvarizer from thermal has a upgrade that gives a extra dust. Dont worry about the late question
I'm pretty sure you can produce gunpowder from grinding down flint, and flint from grinding down gravel, then gravel from cobblestone, which can be pulled from a cobble gen. I can't verify right now, but if true, that means all steps can be automated.
I didnt care much for Mekanism, but after seeing how it's ore multiplication process was done in an organized manner, I must use it.
Awesome!
Wowie! Don't know if you still read comments but this helped my play through and made me learn Mekanism! Thank you so much!
I do, and I'm very glad it helped.
the only mod that require little to no effort but outperforms mekanism by a mile is the chicken chest mod
that’s how good mekanism is
its kinda wacky when you exploring MASSIVE chemical ore processing plants, and you found out that there's very small kitchen sink supplying metric tons of water required to produce all those brine.
Shhhh... don't tell the devs 😄
@@oblyx btw I'm not sure about 3 years ago or whether you already knew about it, but rn thermal expansion could actually 4x ore processing on some ingot. Induction smelter with Pyro-Concentrator using rich slag/cinnabar and blazing pyrotheum. It's technically cheaper to make the setup, but it's very difficult to automate pyrotheum, due to redstone requirement (Niter can be obtained by Blaze spawner, has chance dropped from them). You could actually make the setup work very early, implying both mod are on their vanilla recipe.
Also in case you want to remake mekanism for minecraft version 16 / 17, you also missed a way to transport things with ender storage. Rotary Condensator gases into liquid > ender tank > Condensator liquid into gas. It works INSANELY well in case the base biome is far from desert. You could just make tall-ass structure in the middle of desert, chunkload it, and pipe em through ender tank. No ugly copper tower on the base!
Hey I know I am late but wanted to add my two cents for people who come to this video late like I did, a Resistive Heater can be connected to the evaporation tower to heat the tower (for power) anytime to any heat improving even smaller evaporation towers.
That stops brine from beeing the bottleneck or makes energy production the new bottleneck as heaters take a lot of power.
this is a top notch video, a better one about the subject hasn't come out before or since. subbed.
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
I'm doing quests for mekanism to help my friends with tech mods and this will help me a lot :D great tutorial even after 2 years its the best tutorial i could find :O
Thanks Rere. I appreciate the kind words, and am glad it could help.
I'm going to try and use this in my current "All The Mods 3" series.
Loving your current ATM3 series that your doing with Gnashrakh, you two rock.
Keep up the great work.
It's an awesome setup and fun to build.
Imagine the amount of brine you would need for 11 of those machines to keep up
Imagine how glorious that factory would look with all the piping done cleanly.
@@oblyx At least you'd have the cooling and venting stacks aesthetic covered with the number of thermal evaporation plants sticking out of the top
Why is it that the best tutorials and knowledgeable CZcamsrs have less subscribers? Awesome work explaining!
Thank you. I'm glad it helped.
This man. Knows his stuff. Very. Very. Well. Thank you so much man, half the “tutorials” I’ve seen are a challenge to understand. Noting compared to yours.
Thank you Andrew!
Don’t know how I found this video, don’t know why I wanted to watch a video about a mod I didn’t know existed, but that voice is silk
Haha thanks
with friends, we run a server with about 180 mods, including the thermal suite, mekanism and laggoggles,
we were to use the mekanism setup, but we had serious TPS issues, we switched to multiples smaller instances of thermal setup, enough to process minerals even faster than before and we are getting way better performances. (not the x5 though but we do have all the minerals we need)
Amongst all these time-space altering machines i knew so little about stands one known to all: the cooking for blockheads kitchen sink
Two years later and I've yet to find a better water source.
5 times THATS CRAZY!
-Oblyx
Thats how you call... Fortune Stonks.
it's fun to build. give it a go.
Using sinks is so genius
a few years late but been using mekanism in a couple of packs for a few years now. you can use coal in a PRC with oxygen and water to produce sulfur with a byproduct of hydrogen.
Great video though
You can actually get infinite gunpowder by using a TE Igneous Extruder to get infinite cobblestone, then crushing the cobble for gravel. The gravel can then be pulverized for flint, which can be crushed again for infinite gunpowder. I find that it isn't too expensive to pull off, only requires 1 bucket of lava and water to get going, and completely eliminates the need for a creeper farm.
Yup true, and thanks. But on camera I prefer to give solutions that are available in every pack where possible. You never know if they are playing one that doesn't have another mod you mention.
You can smelt other ores like yellorium if you have jaopca.
That's true but not part of Mek. I try to stay pure to the mod so anyone trying it can do it regardless of the pack they are playing. Jaopca is not very commonly added to packs. I understand from a few different pack devs that it tends to cause them more trouble than it's worth.
new sub.. great video.. was just what i needed as i explore MEKANISM
looking forward to watching more of these. +1
I appreciate that Jimbob. I'm glad you found it useful.
I came back to the valhelsia 3 modpack after a while of not playing it, and when I loaded up my backup save, I lost this machine, my fusion reactor, and a LOT of other big milestones. It hurt so much
bruh. when you were explainging 5x ore processing, I was like listening to my chemistry teacher and my brain cells = R.I.P
2 minute silence for my brain cells
great vid love the explanations, but for the sulfur trioxide its 2 sulfur dioxide molecules/ buckets + 1 oxygen molecule/ bucket give you 2 sulfur trioxide molecules/ buckects
Jesus has risen. He has turned water into brine!
Haha
Take a poop in front of us. And then turn it into brine.
Loved your video and specially your creative area full of all kinds of things. The Crusher looks very awesome with the twisty things on top. The Immersive Engineering stuff is big and cool looking, especially the more advanced machines. Mekanism looks pretty complex to me. You are a Professor to me and you make it look easy, but I can only imagine how much time it really takes to build any one of those smeltery units, never mind the one with the 11 Chemical Dissolution chambers, washers , and crystallizers machines. They are fast!!! The output is even more impressive. Is there a book for this? How do you come up with this?
P.S. did you build that desert structure in the background? It looks really cool. Also looks like you spend a lot of time in this creative world. Really enjoyed watching it. I put a lot of miles on your videos as I see them more than once. Every time, I'm not kidding you, every time I see any of them, I see something I didn't see before. ^.^
Your research is top notch and it shows in your work. Thank you Sensei.
Nope, that pyramid is a world gen structure part of The New Frontier mod pack. It's actually a dungeon, with a staircase down into all sorts of badness. There is also one a very short distance from our New Frontier house in that series. We found it when we went out searching for Botania flowers back in episode 6. The Mekanism stuff looks a lot scarier than it really is. It follows the basic rules of real life chemistry that we all sat through in high school. Just remember these basic rules. Fluids go in an electrolytic separator and come out gasses, gasses go into a chemical infuser and become different gasses. If you want to switch from a liquid to a gas, or vise versa use a rotary condensentrator such as water vapor to water, or the opposite. Those three things will take you most the way through the mod. Sadly, there is no book for Mekanism. But the mod author Aidan Brady keeps a decent web site which has a wiki.
Mirrusky, there's not a book but the wiki is pretty impressive... wiki.aidancbrady.com/wiki/Ore_Processing
The feeding gunpowder part you can make gunpowder from mekanism actually, by crushing cobble into gravel purifying gravel into flint then crashing the flint into gunpowder just needs a source of oxygen power and some kind of cobble gen.
yes but that would have been too much to add to this already complicated video. it's best to keep them as simple as you can.
@@oblyx yeah I get that you could also do your brine towers better by just making an infinite lava gen and feeding lava buckets into fuelwood heaters this way you dont need the solar panels and it maxes out at 3.3k heat making 300 mb a tick of brine per thermal evaporation tower at 18 height plus they can be anywhere this way you could make them underground if you wanted but again thats a more advance setup and would further complicate this video
Yup, and I've already shown in another tutorial.
This must be why they call them kitchen sink packs.
Something like that. 😆
I love immersive engineering, wish it was in the mod pack my people are currently playing
Agreed, IE is awesome.
Excellent tutorial! Thank you so much, I’ll be sure to add it to my base soon! :)
Thank you. It's a resource heavy, but fun build.
For the tier 2 setup, it appears the sink isn't sending water to the Electrolytic Separator. I'm using Basic Mechanical Pipe inbetween the two, and have it arranged exactly like you do in the video, so not too sure why. I do notice my Electrolytic Separator has more setup options when I click on it though, so I'm assuming it's been changed since this video. Any ideas how to set it up to work? Or why the sink isn't sending water?
You have to set the pipe to extract the water. It's not automatic. You need a configurator. I've got a whole video on how to do it if you need help. I think it's called moving material with Mekanism.
I had the same issue. Thanks!
Very nice! BUT, thoughts on industrial foregoing? Raw Ore Meat with Ether Gas = Quintupling :D although it does take 80 seconds to go from 1 raw ore to 5 dust. And the machine can only take quantities divisible by 5 or 10: So a stack of raw ore would leave some in the machine and backlog everything
Any new version of tinkers will only do 1 1/3 ore duping now unless you use the new nether grout structure and you'll get 1 Ingot and a byproduct of a secondary medal
Hey Oblyx... cool vid, well planned, well explained. Few things... gunpowder could have been fed in by a (crusher or enrichment chamber, i forget exactly) with flint instead, and mek can produce flint from gravel, which it can produce from cobble, so you really just need a cobblestone generator as the input there. And... At the end, you give a bit of a challenge, asking what other mod can produce 5x ores... ... Have you heard of RotaryCraft? :) Extractor will yield on average 5x ingots as well, and slightly easier to setup. only slightly. the shaft power conversions needed to run RotaryCraft may drive you batty. :)
Hi Cloud and thanks for the comment. Yes you could use something like a cobble gen, but they are not common in packs beyond skybock. Using a mob farm is something anyone can do even with vanilla mechanics in any pack which is why I went that way. Things like sulfer from Thermal Dynamics are also an option but again not in every pack. I try to keep my tutorials very generalized to cover a larger variety of packs. I have used Rotary Craft before long ago. To my knowledge it has not been developed on in quite some time. Think it ended back in 1.7.2 if i'm not mistaken, though could be wrong there. Not much modern besides Mek that can get you that yield. It was a cool mod though. I wouldn't mind seeing someone pick up the mantle and bring it back.
I'm on mekanism ver. 1.12.2-9.7.9.380 (Sept. 2019)
My gas-burning generators are making 120RF/t, and the electrolytics are using 120 RF/t to produce the hydrogen.
I assume they've nerfed the gas gens down to utter garbage now, given the circumstances.
+update+
I just got done testing it extensively.
For some reason, the separators don't benefit from energy efficiency upgrades. Threw 2 stacks of upgrades into 16 separators (the maximum 8 each), and put all their hydrogen outputs along a length of ultimate pressurized gas piping. I then directed those all into one gas generator. The generator plateau'd at 32x burn rate*, and produced exactly the same energy as consumed the total of 16 fully upgraded separators. I pulled the energy upgrades out, and each of the separators continued to consume the same power as they did with 8/8 energy upgrades.
All the gas generators are good for is if you just want the oxygen, and want a self-sustaining loop of energy to infinitely generate oxygen from the separators.
I don't know why you'd want that, but that's the only reason to ever make even a single gas-burning generator nowadays... which is ridiculous.
(*as opposed to 2x each when I tested 16 generators to match my 16 separators, so there's no reason to have more than one per 50 separators because the burn rate is 2x per separator-worth-of-hydrogen, and a single gas burning generator doesn't cap out til 100x burn rate.)
This was changed in more modern versions on Mekanism to be more realistic. You pretty much need to go to ethylene to use the gas burning generator.
thanks for making this , i was unsure on the 3+ onward setup process , tho there is a machine in mekanism now to make the gunpowder from flint
Happy to, and yes there is.
@@oblyx and is there a flint farm?
Depending on the version, yes. Gravel in a purification chamber if I remember correctly.
28:43 - sulfur does come nonrenewable ish from ender Io sag mill. you grind coal ore and you get a little bit of sulfur from that process, I was wondering what I was going to do all that sulfur I've been grinding.
yeah there's actually lots of ways to get it depending upon the mods installed in the pack.
@@oblyx I found out when I set up a creeper mob farm it gave me sulfer with the mod pack "the 1.7.10 PACK"
I did a cobblestone generator thats pumping cobble into a Enderio Sag Mill that makes gravel out of it and then it pumps the gravel to a Mekanism Purifying Factory that makes the gravel to flint and then it pumps it into a Mekanism Crushing factory that makes gunpowder out of the flint and then instead off the Mekanism Chemical Injection Chamber that needs Hydrogen Chloride to make sulfur out of gunpowder, so i use the IndustrialCraft 2 Extractor that dosent use any Hydrogen Chloride to make sulfur out of gunpowder but only uses power to make gunpowder out of sulfur.
Amazing tutorial, the best on CZcams of this subject, thank you!
Thank you! Greatly appreciated.
I don't know if this is Enigmatica 2 (not expert) exclusive, but IC2 extractors can do the exact same thing the chemical infusion chamber does, except without any need for hydrogen chloride. Yes, it's the Thermal Foundation sulfur you get out, but it's functionally the same as the Mekanism sulfur. In other words, the addition of TWO mods may completely remove the need for thermal evaporation stuff for the tier 4 processing.
Except for the injector but shhhhh
slow paced video but i think it's a good thing to let everyone understand how it work
Thanks for the constructive criticism.
After 2 Years still one of the best explanations..
Thank you. Very kind.
Rotary Craft can process ore from 5 up to 7 times the output
Last I checked it isn't being updated anymore.
RC (and Reika's other mods) still get updates, but they'll probably stay on 1.7.10 'till the heat-death of the universe (according to Reika).
You can actually set up a way to get gun powder out of cobblestone, with 2 crushers and a purification chamber. Crush coble into gravel, purify gravel with oxygen into flint and then crush the flint into gunpowder. And if you have a modpack you can use thermal expansion's igneos extruder to get infinite cobble or an automatic cobble farm going with the help of some other mods like minefactory realoaded blockbreaker or something or other. Either way, cobble is much easier to farm than gunpowder
yup, there are tons of different ways to do it which is why i didn't get into it in the video. it's pack and preference dependant. me personally, i usually go for the mob farm simply because i'm probably going to have one anyway for the other resources as well so why not. and, i hardly ever go for the easy way. i tend to like to overcomplicate things. i find pleasure in doing things unique ways. i get bored checking out peoples bases and seeing the same old things done the same old way. i've been playing too long, need some spice in that chili.
@@oblyx Either way, great video! It helped me a ton with setting up my ore duplication factory. Many thanks for taking the time to make the video for us!
fun fact: if you set the playback speed to 1.25x oblyx still sounds normal
They don't call my the Bob Ross if Minecraft for nothing.
6:39 - Tier 1 (1 Ore = 2 Ingots)
7:52 - Tier 2 (1 Ore = 3 Ingots)
14:40 - Tier 3 (1 Ore = 4 Ingots)
22:46 - Tier 4 (1 Ore = 5 Ingots) (needs gunpowder, a nonrenewable resource)
What torches are you using to light that whole area up? I fell most modpacks lack an "advanced" lighting method.
+Gu Luchetti that pack had a mod called glare torches. Love them. Recipe is a regular torch, the more coal you add the further it prevents spawning. 4-5 tiers I believe.
thermal can do 4x with the induction smelter and pyro stuff
I also agree with brenden vilendrer you organized (a little mono toned) a spotlight even a dummy like me can wrap my head around. I'm thinking of doing a setup following this spotlight to get that good system in my modpack game. and making a video myself showcasing your build. with, cuz you need the credit where its due man.
i appreciate that. and you are right, this video was done early in my CZcams life and I was quite monotone. i'm sure i still am from time to time, especially when tired, though hopefully it's better these days.
could you try putting the evaporators in the nether? it's a lava hellscape that empties buckets in seconds so i imagine that if you sealed it properly, you could maximise your brine output
Wow really great 👍👍 is it okay for me to copy your setup
No worries
Thank you for this detailed tutorial, at first I made a 3x setup, after that I managed to make a compact and neat looking 4x setup (I know you didn't make it compact for the sake of showing it clearly). I don't really need 5x but I'll consider going for it if I can manage to also make it compact and neat, need some brainstorming :p
With the exception of the evap towers it can be pretty small. You could sacrifice speed and cut down on evap towers.
I start at Tinkers' since you just need a shovel and a little bit of gold/aluminum brass. Then Thermal, and I don't think I have ever gotten to T4 Mek.
You should try it, it's fun to build.
@@oblyx Yeah, it has always been a thing of the brine honestly. I get to tripling then say screw it when the amount of brine is needed. I will probably do something akin to how I store a few other liquids, which is have the producers going to some absurdly massive storage tank.