Yeah, Paul went hard on the Judaizers in his letter to the Galatians for trying to push “Works + Grace = Salvation” on new believers, and circumcision was one of the biggest issues, alongside the dietary laws. Both issues were sorted in Romans by the Apostles. Circumcision isn’t required, most of the dietary laws were understood to be fulfilled and no longer in effect. Prohibition against eating foods sacrificed to idols, blood, or strangled animals was still expected to be followed (Acts 15), at least for that time, in order to not cause internal strife and dissent amongst believers.
Circumcision is still performed religiously in Christianity. It wasn’t determined that it didn’t matter, but it was waived in order to stop petty fights from breaking out over it and splitting the newly formed early Church.
@@yumin_pluto558 Read Galatians. The sign of the new covenant is baptism. It’s literally in the early ecumenical creeds as well. There is no religious requirement for Christian men to be circumcised. Galatians 5 “For freedom, Christ set us free. Stand firm, then, and don’t submit again to a yoke of slavery. 2 Take note! I, Paul, am telling you that if you get yourselves circumcised, Christ will not benefit you at all. 3 Again I testify to every man who gets himself circumcised that he is obligated to do the entire law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace. 5 For we eagerly await through the Spirit, by faith, the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision accomplishes anything; what matters is faith working through love.” Galatians 6 “11 Look at what large letters I use as I write to you in my own handwriting. 12 Those who want to make a good impression in the flesh are the ones who would compel you to be circumcised-but only to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ. 13 For even the circumcised don’t keep the law themselves, and yet they want you to be circumcised in order to boast about your flesh. 14 But as for me, I will never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ. The world has been crucified to me through the cross, and I to the world. 15 For[b] both circumcision and uncircumcision mean nothing; what matters instead is a new creation.”
As a matter of fact, most Christian denominations don’t require circumcisions, that’s Judaism and Islam, in Christianity we consider baptism as a fulfillment of what circumcision was to first century Judaism. Idk bout the Philippines but in the USA, I’m pretty sure circumcision is done to some portion of the male population because of either some stupid rumor about hygiene or evangelicals being silly
Idk what it has to do with religion but as a Filipino, circumcision is treated more so as a “coming of age” since it’s often done when a boy turns a certain age
In the USA, it's primarily religious, because evangelicals are weird like that. In some very small minority of the population, it's performed due to studies that concluded that it CAN have hygenic benefits. I think it was somewhere around 2 weeks or longer periods of being unwashed.
@@OzixiThrill Bro I attend an evangelical church. We just went through Galatians and Leviticus in the last few months (Scripture is very clear that circumcision is not required for Christians and was fulfilled after Christ’s resurrection). The problem is the Premillennial Dispensationalist crowd. And circumcision isn’t the only foolish take they have. Major reason the US has widespread circumcision pushed by the medical community is the eugenics movement and it was thought it would prevent masturbation. Same thing with Corn Flakes being pushed by Dr. Kellogg, intended to reduce libido.
In America, circumcision only appeared in the 1800's. It was popularized as a way to prevent master-bation. Even tho it obviously doesn't work, it stayed.
You got it backward. Genesis 17:11 "You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you." (That's why the jews get circumcised. Christians just get baptized instead.)
@@vincemarenger7122Yeah, circumcision was a sign of the special status Israel had under the Mosaic Covenant as the means God would redeem the nations (via Jesus born of the lineage of David), and is no longer required after Christ’s atoning sacrifice and resurrection. Now we are baptized, and unlike circumcision which was only for men, both sexes are baptized.
@@vincemarenger7122 Correct. Jesus abolished the need for circumcision because He realized it didn't mean shit to wicked people who do it just to be part of the clique.
funny thing, there's actually a company that is working on finding how to "graft" a foreskin so to speak, to undo circumcision for men who didn't want to be (but never got a choice about it)
I mean at the end of the day's its the same god, some people just don't believe he got a girl pregnant so he could rp as a human for a couple decades before sacrificing himself to himself
@@JackdotC yeap, same god. this holds true for all abrahamic religions as I understand, including Islam. I was just referring that, for religious reasons, jews usually cut the foreskin off.
@@mmpsp693 If they don't acknowledge that Jesus is the One God come to Earth in human form, then Jews and Muslims are not worshipping the same God as Christians.
@@mmpsp693 Yes I know that, but what I'm saying is that if you believe that Jesus was only a human and not God then you are not worshipping the same God that the Christians are worshipping.
Ah that famous female empathy. And to be clear, circumcision is not a religious requirement for Christians (See Galatians and Acts). It’s common in the US because the eugenics movement. Same origin for Kellogg’s corn flakes.
Welp godskins are very different now.
You never know where the conversation is going to go with Eimi.
Never change Emi never change 😂
3:46 I was unprepared to hear the line "So I heard this thing about fillipino boys" just off the top.
The fact that fishman reads these dono’s probably gotta be the most wtf moments of being the best girl of Phase connect.
Goldrick the Circumcised
Goldrick the uncircumcised
It came from Judaism and carried over to early Christianity. It was determined that it didn’t matter and wasn’t needed for Christianity.
Yeah, Paul went hard on the Judaizers in his letter to the Galatians for trying to push “Works + Grace = Salvation” on new believers, and circumcision was one of the biggest issues, alongside the dietary laws. Both issues were sorted in Romans by the Apostles. Circumcision isn’t required, most of the dietary laws were understood to be fulfilled and no longer in effect. Prohibition against eating foods sacrificed to idols, blood, or strangled animals was still expected to be followed (Acts 15), at least for that time, in order to not cause internal strife and dissent amongst believers.
Circumcision is still performed religiously in Christianity. It wasn’t determined that it didn’t matter, but it was waived in order to stop petty fights from breaking out over it and splitting the newly formed early Church.
@@yumin_pluto558 Read Galatians. The sign of the new covenant is baptism. It’s literally in the early ecumenical creeds as well.
There is no religious requirement for Christian men to be circumcised.
Galatians 5 “For freedom, Christ set us free. Stand firm, then, and don’t submit again to a yoke of slavery. 2 Take note! I, Paul, am telling you that if you get yourselves circumcised, Christ will not benefit you at all. 3 Again I testify to every man who gets himself circumcised that he is obligated to do the entire law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace. 5 For we eagerly await through the Spirit, by faith, the hope of righteousness. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision accomplishes anything; what matters is faith working through love.”
Galatians 6 “11 Look at what large letters I use as I write to you in my own handwriting. 12 Those who want to make a good impression in the flesh are the ones who would compel you to be circumcised-but only to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ. 13 For even the circumcised don’t keep the law themselves, and yet they want you to be circumcised in order to boast about your flesh. 14 But as for me, I will never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ. The world has been crucified to me through the cross, and I to the world. 15 For[b] both circumcision and uncircumcision mean nothing; what matters instead is a new creation.”
Thank you for saying this
Eimi is maindenlessly breedable.
I'm not surprised she picked Champion.
Child circumcision violates the NAP.
As a matter of fact, most Christian denominations don’t require circumcisions, that’s Judaism and Islam, in Christianity we consider baptism as a fulfillment of what circumcision was to first century Judaism. Idk bout the Philippines but in the USA, I’m pretty sure circumcision is done to some portion of the male population because of either some stupid rumor about hygiene or evangelicals being silly
Idk what it has to do with religion but as a Filipino, circumcision is treated more so as a “coming of age” since it’s often done when a boy turns a certain age
@@liamd8918 very interesting, I might look into that
Circumcision in the US was pushed because it was thought to curb masturbation. Same thing with Dr. Kellogg’s cereals that aren’t good for you.
In the USA, it's primarily religious, because evangelicals are weird like that.
In some very small minority of the population, it's performed due to studies that concluded that it CAN have hygenic benefits. I think it was somewhere around 2 weeks or longer periods of being unwashed.
@@OzixiThrill Bro I attend an evangelical church. We just went through Galatians and Leviticus in the last few months (Scripture is very clear that circumcision is not required for Christians and was fulfilled after Christ’s resurrection). The problem is the Premillennial Dispensationalist crowd. And circumcision isn’t the only foolish take they have.
Major reason the US has widespread circumcision pushed by the medical community is the eugenics movement and it was thought it would prevent masturbation. Same thing with Corn Flakes being pushed by Dr. Kellogg, intended to reduce libido.
In America, circumcision only appeared in the 1800's. It was popularized as a way to prevent master-bation. Even tho it obviously doesn't work, it stayed.
Imagine what one could do with 200 years worth of foreskin...
I agree, I can assure you it didn't work
Oh Eimi... circumcision is the furthest from Jesus
This thumbnail is hilarious
I don't understand how she turned that into that kind of talk about foreskin... But I'm all for it. 🤣
My friend said they do it in the phillipines because its free or cheap to do it there and instead use that money for their vacation there
According to Indos, it is a cultural rather than faith thing over there.
the foreskin is the phyisical reminder that God loves you
those that are "graftless" have been abandoned by God
You got it backward. Genesis 17:11 "You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you."
(That's why the jews get circumcised. Christians just get baptized instead.)
@@vincemarenger7122Yeah, circumcision was a sign of the special status Israel had under the Mosaic Covenant as the means God would redeem the nations (via Jesus born of the lineage of David), and is no longer required after Christ’s atoning sacrifice and resurrection. Now we are baptized, and unlike circumcision which was only for men, both sexes are baptized.
@@vincemarenger7122 Correct. Jesus abolished the need for circumcision because He realized it didn't mean shit to wicked people who do it just to be part of the clique.
grafted = C I R C U M C I S E D
funny thing, there's actually a company that is working on finding how to "graft" a foreskin so to speak, to undo circumcision for men who didn't want to be (but never got a choice about it)
Explaining why male genital mutilation became widespread recently throughout the Anglosphere is hate speech.
oy vey cease this anti semitism
2:07 would the reason be Jesusless?
I mean at the end of the day's its the same god, some people just don't believe he got a girl pregnant so he could rp as a human for a couple decades before sacrificing himself to himself
@@JackdotC yeap, same god. this holds true for all abrahamic religions as I understand, including Islam. I was just referring that, for religious reasons, jews usually cut the foreskin off.
@@mmpsp693 If they don't acknowledge that Jesus is the One God come to Earth in human form, then Jews and Muslims are not worshipping the same God as Christians.
@@KageMinowara Islam explicity recognize Jesus as a prophet of Islam, but not as God itself. So for them, it is the same God
@@mmpsp693 Yes I know that, but what I'm saying is that if you believe that Jesus was only a human and not God then you are not worshipping the same God that the Christians are worshipping.
It's a religious thing in most parts of the world where they do it.
😂
Ah that famous female empathy.
And to be clear, circumcision is not a religious requirement for Christians (See Galatians and Acts). It’s common in the US because the eugenics movement. Same origin for Kellogg’s corn flakes.