‘You haven’t even built a career, have you?’: Douglas Murray's row with journalist
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- Author Douglas Murray debates political journalist Ava Santina over gender ideology in schools before the conversation turns and he is accused of building a career out of stoking fear.
“I don’t know, Ava, anything about your career, I don’t know if you have one,” Mr Murray said.
“But you did try to imply that you knew something about mine and you just showed you know nothing about it.
“You haven’t even built a career, have you?”
If you died, 15 years ago, and came back to life to listen to this conversation you think this world have been taken over by a very sick and strange species
Yup.. world has gone mad and its getting worse out there
If I came back to this I would like to return to death 😂
You didn't hear about it 15 years ago because the target was LGB people and Muslims. That didn't work so now they're isolating and attacking trans people. They're just being scapegoated to stop you realising who the real source of society's problems are. It's a methodology that goes back centuries. You only care about this issue in the first place because right wing media has told you they're coming for your kids. There were plenty of trans and non-binary people around 10, 15, 20 years ago. No one batted an eyelid. So if something has changed then what is it? There aren't more trans people now. Trans people are a bit more open about their experiences. No. What's changed is they've been targeted for hate and the media won't shut up about it because while you're looking at trans people choosing which loo to pee in you aren't looking at the real source of the problems we face as a society.
@@greenfields1221Now just more so
I think this world has been taken over by a very sick and strange species and I didn't even have to die to get there.
So gender is basically personality. We have a word for that... it's personality! 🤦🏼♂️
That is exactly and precisely correct. The word ‘gender’ should be eliminated until such time it can be scientifically verified, which it never will be, because it was completely unscientific from the start.
Persona, dress style, demeanor....that's all it is. They want to define themselves out of reality, as some special new thing.
I see it as yet another quirk of the human burden of consciousness and social pressures. E.g. supernaturalism/religions
Gender is a personality for people who never developed a real personality. Now they have a fake one that they can get woke points for and pull the victim card.
The psychological perspective is that they are referring to the terms feminine and masculine without realising it and calling it gender. A feminine gay man for example or a masculine gay woman. etc etc. A masculine gay woman would be the type to dress as a man and portray as a man if she were to be the most extreme version of masculinity imaginable.
Notice when he started to list genders, he started with asexual. Um that's a sexuality/preference. Temperament is also not gender. the whole gender term is so warped now!
Signs of no argument:
1. Changing topic
2. Personal attacks
Rabbi Schmuley!
Yes, that's Piers and Douglas's method precisely.
Murray: self hating hermaphrodite??
@@edeledeledel5490no..that stupid reporter
@@edeledeledel5490duuuuuuh yep das Pierce and Douglas duuuuuuh yep!
As a PROUD member of the IDGAF+ community, I approve of Douglas Murray comments ...
Fellow member here. I salute you
✊🏻 IDGAF+ AND PROUD!
IDGAF+ haha, love it, count me in
IDGAF+ needs some steam!
Do the children need to be told they are special as well? I sowwie; you are such a spaceship crayons bounce house chocolate, that cover it? We can always graduate to time out if you can't behave. *shakes head* I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. ^_^
She starts attacking him personally rather than address the question and concern. This is the hallmark of the Identity Politics Movement.
😂 and she didn't even know what his book was about 😂😂😂
I think that was fair game, though, because he pointed out that she'd used an incorrect word previously. We all make mistakes -- even Douglas -- but pointing it out came across as rude and petty. That was why she hit back in the way she did. What's good for one is good for another...
She knew what his book was about (the supposed erosion of European ethnic identity as a result of migration from the Global South). Her timing was off in terms of the chronology, but Murray was part of the xenophobic mood music between the Referendum in 2016 and the vote in 2019.
How come all they can do is ask questions? They will never say what they actually think the answer is to anything because its "put them all in camps, 1 penny an hour minimum wage enforced on anyone without a doctorates degree, hang all non religious people, take away all womens rights and legalize grape" also none of you care about jeffrey epsteins list of pedos, every politician you like is on that list, i dont like any so thats not gonna work reverse kiddos.
@@leftforbed1041 Murray is a Chad 🥰
I DO NOT IDENTIFY as a woman. I AM a woman. I'm so tired of these ridiculous people trying to tell me what I am based on whatever their issues are.
Same here, I do not identify as man, I am a man.
well I was born a man with beans and a frank between my legs however like the boy in Matt Walsh's book , I identify as a walrus
Saying `I AM a woman' is the same as saying `I identify as a woman'.
@@michaellorenzen8200 and I am the Egg man 😂
The stupidity of saying "being asexual is an identity." I can't get over the gall of privileged people to characterize the experiences of millions of other people.
Why does society keep trying to have a civilized discussion with the mentally ill? honestly.
Good question 🙋
In the past, we would have just ignored the village fools.
Exactly. Ignore them. They only want attention and to feel 'special'
We need to stop listening to them and accomodating their delusions!
ikr
“I can hear you muttering something”. Had me rolling there.
ikr
Yes 😂 Only thing better was him singing "Nooo Noo Nooooo" at 4:04
Any adult advocating this nonsense should be prohibited from working with children and we should be collectively ashamed that this idiocy has become a thing. Thank you Douglas.
Absolutely. It was not that long ago that people WERE ostracised for believing this woke nonesense.
How the world has fallen.
I'm not a "conservative" per se, but i agree with you 100 on this. Most in the middle do.
90% of teachers are woke psychos
I am a teacher and everyday i get shunned for being normal and healthy
I agree.
Those people are dangerous but also morons, they argue with biology as it pleases them.
And in the end they can't even give definitions - how many genders are there? what actually is a woman?
I wish they'd all go hermaphrodite and f* themselves!
She is horrible, an upper middle class elitist, who wants young men scared and would happily see innocent men put in prison on false charges because the accuser had mental health issues.
A very nasty bit of work
I really hope she has no sons
I hope she is not allergic to cats.
Who is she?
@@rullangaarnobody important
@@rullangaar I looked her up she only appears to be famous for getting decimated on shows like this
There's no getting around Murray. He's so common sense and logically correct it's just great to watch.
He also takes it up his mudshoot 😂
@@beachbong853 You need to find you a toy to play with...
@@stevesanders1905i can't respect a man who let's another man pound his dooky hole
I just love Douglas Murray 😄👍He is the best 👏👏Thank you Douglas for telling the truth 😄👍
he is a raging arse
He’s great speak truth!
@@TheNationalienget an education.! You don't have one if you don't know the difference between men and women.!! Fact is there. are two sexes. And people can't be cats.
It's embarrassing to see a woman defending women's rights being taking away.
I totally agree, maybe she would like a fully in fact adult with a penis naked in a space with little girls she knows, or if it was her daughter. It's disgusting isn't it.
Duct tape needed 😂
@stellalavender-de6mt I was thinking more along the lines of some kind of anti brainwashing camp. I understand some women agreeing in person with Trans for safety reasons but doing it publicly, she is either getting paid, a pedo cult member, or brainwashed.
Women children and lgb rights.
Time for this to STOP 🛑
She is too dumb to see the connection.
Tatchell says there aren't 100 genders but he won't say how many. Trying to have a rational argument with these people is like wrestling water.
he also says there is a limit but there is no limit
@@bogdanpopescu1401 He also advocated for PIE back in the day 😡
That’s because in five years time he’ll probably be saying there are 200 genders. doesn’t want to get tied down now, does he.
No-one has been able to define how many genders there are - if you follow this line of thinking, apparently there could be as many genders as there are people in the world.
Tatchell is an absolute arse,he always has been..i did laugh when someone punched the moron in the face..on camera!
You have to love Douglas,he is great. 🇬🇧🏴
Even if Douglas doesn't get to rebut, his face says it all. He has an actor's control, maybe better!, of facial muscles and expressions. We can read his 'silent' responses just by following his face. We can 'hear' him loud and clear. Impressive Mr. Murray.
Keep that lady away from schools
Who is she? Why is she on the show...what is her background?
Keep her away from society.
She's a rent-a-feminist talking head.@@RideoutMr
Lock her up in a mental institution, but in isolation. You don't want this kind of contagion to affect the other inmates.
And from the terminally ill
The safety of children matters more, than the feelings of anybody else.
🎯
"Won't somebody please think of the children"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jeffsuter344OK Groomer.
It's not their feelings that matter. What really matters is the truth. Denying the truth is denying reality which makes them schizophrenic. I think the left ideology can make people go nuts.
@@jeffsuter344 lol laugh all you want, there are teachers raging at students for disagreeing with the multi gender rubbish.
Imagine having to live with her.. pure sheer hell and torture …
That was a verbal massacre! He literally had her shaken.
I usually turn off what I'm watching now, when I see her on a panel.
Ava interrupts at any chance she gets and then complains when someone gives her a taste of her own medicine. She's nothing more than a self entitled child.
And now she’s whining that she might continue the career that Douglas very correctly told her didn’t even exist.
She looks like she was going to break down at 2:49
She also hates men, and I mean hate. Full of hate.
He's a whiny moron. People who don't see that are nothing but children.
Eva has discovered her talent finally victim what a pos love Douglas
She attacks Douglas rather than argue his points, then when he bites back she's like "how rude"
She is typical . Nasty rotten woman. I hesitate to use the word bitch, what is the word for a female cat ?
She's a women haha double standards for them
She also whines like an alley cat about being interrupted, but the first thing she does is interrupt Douglas Murray when it’s his turn to speak, like all typical leftists do when they debate. Can you imagine the torture of being married to a vile creature like her?
Murray is a liar. He want you to beleive his lies.
Karl would be proud.
Forcing kids to learn such debatable issues rather then let them flower is nothing short of enslaving them and is a criminal act. We all should wake up and stand against these devil forces.
Thing is today they don't like to hear the truth.
Douglas is 100 percent right in his assertions. Our children are the line in the sand when in comes to this indoctrination.
Agree in sentiment, but heres the military perspective: The rubicon was already crossed, in order go get to the kids.
If your boy comes home and decides he wants to suck dick/has no interest in women, he wasn't indoctrinated. He's gay bro.
Children have been indoctrinated in schools for many generations now. Mine were taught about a mystical being that controls everything and must be prayed to for forgiveness, all without my consent. Fucking hilarious how them being told they can be who they like is triggering everyone.
Are they? I hope so, but I think the backlash, will have be a lot more serious, to achieve more than slightly slowing them down.
@palpaladin315 the Rubicon was not crossed, it keeps retreating.
Ava couldn't make her point, so just jumped into personal attacks on Douglas. I admire his calm, rational thinking.
That's because she didn't have one.
She has no serious point. All nonsensical tripe.
Seems like Ava's point was cut from this clip? Douglas refers to something she said that clearly wasn't included. Wonder why that is?
Women don’t belong in the workplace.
Well, she did try to blame Murray's 2017 book for causing Brexit...............even though the Referendum was in 2016................That's the level Murray is trying to deal with here!
Douglas Murray is pure gold.😊
Also I love how any time "they" are asked for a specific clear answer it's always "I'm not gonna answer that"
WTF does Tatchel know about children’s education ? He wants to lower the age of consent to 13 , Say no more
So he can have sex with children?! 🤯
@@thegreat7861Why else lower the age of consent...why else!
Why he is allowed on panels is a mystery , let's not forget he was a member of P I E (Paedophile Information Exchange)
'P' word....
I despise him
Ava, the worst type of Woman.
Probably spoilt as a child, got everything she wanted and still clueless!
Her only reply was she made the same money.
I just love it when she gets offended! Sign of a job well done by the guys 😂😂
I'm a woman & she doesn't speak for me
You transphobe! How dare you misgender her as a woman! She (or It) identifies as an idiot!
Eva has a cheek to call Douglas rude , she is always rude
These two have completely lost their minds. Lmao!!!😅😅😅
People with NO children forcing their values on our children 😡
The crazy trans force the shits in the classroom
Same as men forcing their abortion values on women.
Hopefully they have no children.
A single adult in a classroom says something stupid, and it becomes the basis for fear it’s being done everywhere. That’s culture war. Just a few years ago we would’ve just ignored, now, the right wing is looking for every excuse to sensationalize these things, and more to create division and political support. Meanwhile, the important work in government has mostly stalled from the right way as they have no answers, or ideas about having improve the country, their agenda simply to on the libs. That’s not going to get us anywhere.
That's the thing for normal gay people like Douglas here he's seeing a backlash on gay rights because of the ridiculous gender propaganda a small minority are trying to push on everyone
I remember this woman. She was the one that said she liked men to be terrified when they approach women. She's a classic example of misandry.
Talk about rude. She accuses Murray of being rude when she interrupts him. Plus she tries to school him about his own work which she hasn’t read deeply.
@@wolfhound1452 Im gay man... and I agree that the insane minority has taken over and is making it far worse for everyone... why is it always white women, like Ava, who feel they have every right to speak for everyone? Out of the 30 or so people in my circle of acquaintances and friends not one of us are on board with any of this gender nonsense... yet here's Ava using us to further her argument as she attacks Douglas' points.
Oh then called him hun. Imagine if he called her sweetheart.
@@sugarkane4830 Kind of passive aggressive, right?
@@sugarkane4830calm down dear 🤣
Douglas, spot on! We are tired of having this issued in our face, rammed down our throat. Make people choose, they will.
Seeing Piers try to stifle laughs every time Douglas spoke was hilarious.
ikr
That woman is an utter embarrassment.
She is an embarrassment, but you can't deny she's kind of hot.
Not much intelligence is her problem.
shes hot though
She unfortunately, is just like the majority of modern women.
SHE is the person that is being rude NOT Douglas. She is an utter disgrace to real Women.
This is why my wife left teaching. She was told to acknowledge a FIVE year old wanting to be a girl, that was a biological boy. She refused. She got a formal warning and she quit teaching. It’s absolutely shocking.
From a fellow teacher, I send my support. I was told by a controversial colleague, "Keep your head up."
When people ask 'how do you know it's not just a handful of teachers', this is how. The ones who refuse to participate in this are driven out of the profession and the ones currently graduating with education degrees are being trained to teach this stuff. How can you sit there and claim it's a handful when we're replacing traditional teachers with 'progressive' ones by the thousands every year.
Good for her.
That's terrible, your wife has been treated very badly. Its shocking what is going on in schools.
Good riddance to your wife. What difference did it make to her to go along with the wishes of a child. Should have just concentrated on teaching.
Douglas’s sigh speak volumes to the sane of mind …..god bless Him ….it’s a though he is single handily holding the line of reason for us all ….I wish we had leaders of his reason and calibre
Yup.
Her entire argument consists of "Shout louder than the other guy".
She always does that. I think Piers and certain others have her on their panels because they make such fools of themselves they demolish their own so-called arguments.
Rather than stating any facts to counter Douglas, she just attacks him directly and personally. Embarrassing stuff.
Yet so typical of the left!
This journalist chick its a joke of a woman 😂😅
100%
She's a moron
She has no couth. It was satisfying to see her make a fool of herself while Douglas remains composed. He's brilliant!
It's always incredible to watch a woman advocate for her own subjugation 🤦🏼♀I couldn't roll my eyes further into the back of my head if I tried
Exactly!
Barefoot, Pregnant, Kept in the kitchen.
Don't get me wrong I have the greatest respect and admiration for women
She has been brainwashed by the patriarchy 😂
that's why men bleed, are being mutilated and killed on the battlefields and not women!!
She is a traitor and collaborator. After the war, they get their head shaved.
She'd be one of the women in turquoise if this was the Handmaid's Tale.
Douglas Murray is the voice of reason.
Of course he is!
Feminist always complain about men talking over women, but the only person interrupting and insulting in this group of four is the one woman.
When the debate is lost,slander becomes the tool of the loser
Well they both slandered each other so who lost?
@@LamedvavnikThe bitch who slandered first.
@@Lamedvavnik I would say the person who resorted to it first loses.
The question of who has a career is all you need
To know
@@Lamedvavnikthe one who’s argument is not based on facts.
Douglas Murray is a legend. Protect this man at all cost.
Gay though, shouldn't preach morality, they are the first disobeying the word of god
Ok then... I start my watchguard of Murray tomorrow. You know by any chance where does he live?
I love him❤
@@NataliaMartan
You love a proud Conservative Bigot. Only Peter Tatchell talks sense. Wake up.
does he really have to wear a rainbow tie, we know by just looking at you what you are
Murrays face is priceless, love him
I truly enjoy listening to Douglas Murray. Every time he speaks I find it's more and MORE so every single time I see a new video. We need voices like his now more than ever.
The world would be a much better place with more Douglas Murrays in it.
Did you hear? Did you listen??? It is just simply not true!! What part of that don't you understand???
douglas murray et al were the creators and supporters of the lgbt movement. they dont like it today because they are being marginalized and excluded because the victim narrative of today prioritizes other people
@@bobbyy.7762 what do you mean?
@@bobbyy.7762what are you banging on about?
Parents teach the children nonsense all the time. Just go to any church and witness the nonsense that adults teach children.
Hell, lake of fire, eternal damnation, etc.
that woman has no actual argument against Douglas Murray's point so she just attacks him personally. smh
Silly cow ain't she!
That's what feminists and liberals do, throw out accusations bc they can't debate w facts instead of feelings😢
What's her name. She's awful
All these sinister lefties do the same thing. I had Left wing “friends” who would do the exact same thing, when they were losing an argument they’d get personal.
Typical irrational woman again...
Douglas and Piers speak sense. The other two should not be near children.
Keeping things simple in schools is the best way. Children go to school to learn . Children are innocent and should be protected .Douglas Murray is totally right.
Douglas Murray speaks absolute facts and common sense.
As ever, he hits the nail on the head. The stupid t@rt Ava shows why her views are minority and extreme.
he didn’t say anything reasonable in this video im not sure if you actually watched it
@@_Tp__ok enabler
@@_Tp__Can an orange identify as an apple? Or anything it wants?
Does its delusion mean nothing if in reality its still an orange with a fucked up perception of what it is?
And he is debating [insert slur]! Douglas should be debating other serious intellectuals. Not people like Eva or Sylvanna or Peter. It is a waste of time.
We should label people like Peter and Eva here as loona tics and not worth our time. I tried to make an analysis of Eva here based on this little debate and Peter is a kiddy fiddler it seems. We should toss them aside.
Ten years ago this all would have been considered child abuse and there would be CPS workers coming out the woodworks. This is all sick and should be rejected in full.
Still CPS is involved today. Its just they will come after the parents not the pedos.
For the majority it still is child abuse.
@@JG-us9lu that is true it’s just a matter of getting the people in the positions that enable this garbage out of those positions. The silent majority really needs to start speaking up even more so and crush this is fast as possible.
It absolutely IS child abuse and it’s way past time this ideology was stopped.
What happened to child safeguarding and adult responsibility?
CPS is corrupt and incompetent
I"m glad that I live in a conservative, Christian community. There aren't any weirdos here, since children here are not subjugated to the fantasies of insane people.
They will come though they are everywhere nowadays
Thank God, the world has Douglas Murray. Otherwise things would be utterly hopeless.
I'm so glad I grew up in the 80's and 90's. We didn't know anything personal about our teachers. We were there to learn, and that's it.
Humanity reached its heyday in the 80s and is now degenerating and going backwards as society becomes ever more feelings and emotionally engrossed that reason, science and statistics are discarded.
@@greyman6353Grammar was better in the eighties, too.
Everything I learnt about my high school teacher's private life made me want to puke.
I used to think teachers are human beings who were put on earth just to teach children. Didn't think they even had families. Not that I was taught that but it's just how impersonal our relationship with teachers was.
I still remember bumping into 2 of my teachers who had been to the local pub by my grandfathers after a rugby match and they were plastered. I didn't care, they were usually happy and approachable in school as it was, so them just being more happy seemed not out of character. But the next Monday when I saw them they apologised to me and asked that I not mention it if I could as it looked bad and they wanted to set a good example for their students. There was nothing they did that was really bad in any way, they were just happy for a Welsh win against England, and who wouldn't be (bloody English lol), but they still wanted to keep their personal lives out of school and help educate by example as well as their subject matter (Maths and English in this case).
How far things have fallen since then, they want to lead by example, bad example and of a way to personal nature that has no place in school.
She obviously identifies as someone who has a career.
HAHAHA precisely, and it's rude to call her out on it and makes you a bigot for doing so.
“She” certainly seems to have an abundance of male energy, a very unattractive trait.
I thought its first mistake was trying to identify as human. Clearly a Fembot though.
She's a professional clown.
😂😂😂😂
“I don’t know anything about your career Ava, I don’t know if you have one” 😂🤣👏🏻 #Gold
It’s disgusting that people are getting into the head of young children let them enjoy their childhood not suffer shame on all you who thinks this is right
The fact that a teacher is confident enough to assert this to kids is the problem.
He should have been sacked with immediate effect, disgusting that these morons are allowed anywhere near kids..it's abuse of the highest order.
The teacher should be sacked instantly
The issue is Universities. They are hot bed for this nonsense. They are pro socialism/communism they are pushing woke, hard left politics and eventually these students go into the real world and spread it.
This is exactly what that whistle blower ex KGB agent said would happen.
This sort of crap has been going on for decades, the left are experts at infiltrating schools and brainwashing youngsters.
@@stevedawg9588I was talking with my mate who's had kids about this and questioned whether it's the teacher fault or whether it's part of the syllabus they're told to teach by the state
Good on Douglas and Piers. The other two are ridiculous.
I, for the life of me, cannot understand how Peter Thatchell is still invited onto discussion panels on TV.
Can no one spot a p3do anymore, fr?!
yes, they are 💯 Ridiculous! It's painful to listen to them😩
They tie themselves in knots with their garbage
@@lynnm6413 he should be in jail.
@@robkeeleycomposer at least they should investigate his computers and search his home...
Douglas Murray and Raffal Heydel-Mankoo need to start a political party. They would get my vote and I dare say most of the countries vote.
Douglas is so calm & cool showing his brilliance. Poor lady don't you realise when you start raising your voice & become loud to drown others out, to me it means you lost the arguement.
Ava Santina isn't a 'journalist'. Shes an activist.
She's an asylum patient
Ava is upset that men don't want to breed with her. I would personally rather have a baby with Lucy Letby.
She's clearly unhinged with a pathological hatred of men, at best she's a "Craptivist"!
Imagine being trapped in a lift for a couple of hours with her.
some quo feminist producer got her on and scares away decent amount of the audience.
This woman should not be given media time, she does not have the intellect that she thinks she has
The FAR left is a very narcissistic entitled entity. PERIOD
No-one does.
Correct
@@lervish1966 Yet another completely retarded comment from you within this comments section...it appears that you're utterly perfect for that sour-faced & extremely moronic, leftist bimbo, dude...but somehow I imagine that you're neither wealthy nor even remotely handsome...simply call it a hunch...
@@lervish1966Douglas does
Douglas is right the only thing Ava is known for is getting people cancelled.
I was arrested for offending a person claiming to have been born in the wrong body. The world went insane.
You don't know? Go see the numbers of homossexuals molested, killed...
Why we need to judge sexual identity on thirds when the important it's their values, ideas, right?
It must give Douglas Murray a headache having to think down to these people's levels.
They are unbelievably stupid. The woman in incorrigible.
It is a headache. I do this all the time. Women operate on a less than logical fallacy with pretty much everything. It’s frustrating when you try to make a point and they just keep changing the point to something they can be right about.
You can tell see the gay guy and his logic starting to break down and he finally felt like he had slayed the dragon when he said “I disagree with the bbc on genders” and he got all smug as if he’d made a logical,point and had perhaps won the debate whilst looking like a fool. But he’s feminine so he doesn’t mind.
@@longsleevethong1457 There are two gay guys in this video. And that's not a joke about Piers, haha.
@@longsleevethong1457 Not put all women in same basket, nor men, but generally yeah most women are completely ruled by their feelings. If something feels right to her she will defend it regardless of logic.
This woman is a nightmare , and NOW she's been " OFFENDED " she demands action .......if you don't like the heat lady , get out of the kitchen .
That’s the problem right there. She needs to get IN the kitchen 😅
The irony of "if you don't like the heat lady , get out of the kitchen ." when it comes to activist females that can't take the heat is poetically ironic
@@jackbotmanAgreed.
Oh the Irony......
You need to know your facts if you want to attempt to take on Douglas
I don’t think she’s ever been in a kitchen.
I Just love Douglas Murray, this guy keeps destroying the nonsense from the left
‘The truth is like a lion, you do not have to defend it. Set it free, it will defend itself’.
I can't believe this conversation is even happening. Piers is right.
Piers is a populist pillock.
Iv seen this girls face on tv a few times anyone know where she lives?
@@Yesindeed126ijjk
@@Yesindeed126 are you think what im thinking wink wink maybe we go after her JK :D
@@Yesindeed126 bit weird mate. You plan on stalking?
She is telling him he's rude, while speaking over him. Rudeness doesn't apply to her.
She is nothing, and will never be recognised.
She is igorant, stupid and without manners. The audacity of this bitch.
Narcissist
I have four children. I have always been open to how they wish to direct their own religious or sexual identity. I have no agenda. I just want people to live their lives without fear of discrimination and I am proud to state this quite categorically. One of my children is LGBQT, a community that has been identified more recently, but one that has always existed. My daughter has suffered public discrimination to the degree that she and her partner have been spat upon while travelling on public transport. This horrifies me. However, she has stated that the hard fought for recognition for the LGBQT community has been set back decades by this recent debate. To be heterosexual or homosexual is a state that has always existed as long as humankind. To arrive at a state of society (at least in some countries) whereby that this is acceptable has been an up-hill struggle. Unfortunately, these same societies, so concerned with the effect of social media and virtue signalling, has led to the liberalism of making totally ridiculous claims of identity being totally acceptable and anyone arguing against this to be some kind of monster. The internet, Social media, the media in general, has a responsibility to say, enough is enough. When someone wanting to identify as a cat receives more attention, and dare I say it approval, than a gay person, when schools and other organisations are forced to change carefully and reasoned policy, to cater to an extremely limited (close to zero) populous, isn't it about time for common sense to prevail?
Bored and baffled by these women who are so, so intent on seeing our erasure and the harm of children
It makes me sad that so many women are worse misogynists than men.
She is the feminist PC brigade the type that treats men like shit and gets away with it she is the reason why the world is in this mess today trash like her have destroyed so many children with this gender crap
The alphabet mafia always knew they could play to the female by having males try and be females. At first it was an ego boost and flattering but now they are established you are seeing negative outcomes for females. It’s almost as if straight males had told you from the jump that this would happen but you called us all ‘bigots’ for trying to warn you.
The real question is, do they have children themselves or are they trying to do it to other people's children?
The old ad hominem argument Ava, a sure sign of a losing argument. How do they justify letting a 14 year old, who cant, bet, smoke, drive, leave school, or buy a beer make a life altering irreversible decision. Its Mad
Yes, why don't they see it.
I'm in the US. I am 52. We used to call them "cross dresser's". When I turned about 17ish, that was when RuPaul was breaking on the scene. That was when the term drag queen was used. Then it went to transgender, and now it is IDKWTF anymore. Then it was gays just wanted to be married. The reason for that was because marriage is now a legal contract, more than a union between 2 people in the eyes of their God. So gays were allowed to marry. Then the pride crap started coming out, and IDK why it is called "gay pride"? Pride is a product of accomplishment, so if being gay is (in their eyes) natural, then how can it be pride? Did they have to work on being gay? smh
Much love, thanks for wasting my time.
That women quickly reverted to slander once she realized she was losing how typical and sad.
He was to sharp for her and it showed.
I felt embarrassed for her. I thought to myself, what planet is she from?
"Women" is plural.. honestly, can't anyone write proper English anymore? By the way, I am not a native English speaker
@@kotsaris87 Are you a grammar snob or troll? ^_^
ah well, good luck with whatever the case may be.
She couldn’t properly refute his statements so she merely resorted to calling him a fear stoking bigot. These people cannot withstand any legitimate form of criticism simply because their ideological views are so horribly irrational and distorted in their very nature.
That woman is utterly vile. Resorting to personal insults aimed at Douglas to ram her point across. He is a gentleman not to retaliate which she so deserves. She has spewed her views very aggressively and is not safe near any child imo. Child Protection authorities take note. Pierce and Douglas please keep talking common sense on our behalf to stop this cancerous use of children in society from spreading.
She is vile with equally vile views !
"you haven't even built a career, have you?"
not even a Blonde
She said on twitter she wanted to castrate white men.
Ava is terrible
It's so brilliant watching these ideologues try to form a logical statement from their twisted web of virtue signaling.
He is a intellectually savage and calculated person, who is a wise and prudent man with a voice.
She's on the panel to be the butt of the joke. She also plays the role perfectly. She can't help herself.
That's Morgan for you. I wish he'd have just shut up and let Douglas loose on these idiots. But then he's only interested in himself... I don't think he even cares about the subject matter.
@babbycatt1017 Oh wow is that Peter Tatchell the P.I E. supporter?! I'm American so I have no idea what he looks like but I've read some of his writing. Absolute creep.
@@NMemone Yeah that's him. Started off with good intentions around gay rights, but if ever there was an archetypal example of St. George in retirement syndrome... he's it.
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Douglas is 100% correct. I never had an issue before. LGB should split from this madness and leave the kids alone. I completely respect the fact someone who has gender dysphoria should have the option to obtain the help and care they need as an adult but unfortunately what is happening is ... or what it seems to be, is your allies are turning you against the majority of the population. One kid identifies as a cat is enough to take action. This is absolutely crazy
The issue is marxism and the notion that it's okay to target children with all their mindbending theatrics.
One now needs a “woketionary” to keep up with the squads of pronouns and other oddball words. Fringe words like binary, cisgender, heteronormative and transsexual have broken the bounds of perverted academic and philosophical thought.
@@CertifiedSIMP-ef4oo think I'll save my money on that dictionary 😅
@@CertifiedSIMP-ef4oo
Perfectly said!
Woketionary, that’s it.
I know I can’t keep up with this Orwellian word fuckery. It’s exhausting.
LGB paved the way for this madness. Homosexuality should be made illegal. Let states police as they choose.
The inside laugh of Pierce when the guy on the right stated, "i dont know if you have one".
If my parents were came back in time and listened to this conversation, they would think this is a comedy scetch.
That Eva woman never fails to disappoint me with the amount of times she has embarrassed herself with her truly dumb takes.
She does not seem well read. Her remarks always seem to have been structurreed via short cuts and click bait and a title sentence. That does not make a person informed or educated on a topic.
She's typical, talking over everyone and being aggressive. She's a delusional idiot, believing that simply because she's a woman she is right and justified.
She’s going to embarrassed of herself later on.. I don’t always agree with people like Douglas, in fact it’s rare, but the backlash he speaks of is real. Especially here in the states. We’re all sick of this stuff dominating debates. And it’s already changing laws. UAB in Alabama used to be a regional hub for trans healthcare, now it is illegal. It went on for years and years with no problem, even with public funding, until the culture war made everyone hyper reactive. This obsession is bad for us all, especially for LGBTQ+ whatever it goes by now.
She can't respond to the topic so she attacks Douglas for things that have no basis in reality. Really Stupid.
Well, in her defense, she is a blonde.
We need much more reasonable people like Douglas Murray. It’s shocking the falsehood and ignorance spreading like fire around universities
Not only shocking, it is disgusting. Unfortunately it is going on for decades!!!
Exactly
(We need much more reasonable people like Douglas Murray) Good luck with that. Schools and Uni's are hot beds of woke and trans extremists, including the school & uni chancellors and administrators.
@@rawforyou5514 As Douglas warns, the self-destructive nihilistic nature of the Trans Activist movement is already seeing public support for gay marriage begin to wane as more and more pedophilic examples and blatant misogyny are exposed to public awareness.
I can see where Jim Caviezel is coming from when he suggests the "pride" flag was chosen as an improper rainbow because children like, and like to draw, rainbows - and because rainbows signify innocence (which is very much the opposite of what the pride flag signifies today).
it is too late for reasoning its time for actions!!
Historical facts and not just emotions. Well done.
The blonde woman always displays two humours / emotions: self satisfaction or vitriol.
Ava kept talking over Douglas all the time and yet had the audacity to say "let me speak, it's my turn". These people are incapable of seeing their own hypocrisy, or even practice critical thinking.
That women is embarrassing, all she’s doing is attacking Douglas without any logical arguments that’s how you know she failed. She knew that Douglas was too rational for her so she tried to take him down by personally attacking him, she asked him to let her finish yet she was constantly talking over him.
She brought up they were both getting paid the same for that show aswell, iam sure he would do it for nothing.
I wouldn't call projecting your own feelings against a movement citing an unrelated study to support your view as a rational basis of debate.... but any who....
That's how they debate. It's why they're so easy to crush in an argument. It's like dealing with toddlers.
as a woman from asia, i find her and most western women humiliating... its disappointing that the world has ended up with all this nonsense... i support the lgbtq+ thing but forcing sociopolitics onto children is where i cross the line. politics and especially sociopolitics should never be fed to children, if they wanna be gay then let them, but dont force them! everyone has a right to choose their sexuality (and yes its sexuality not gender, there are only 2 god given genders and if you dont like it then take it up with GOD), but nobody has a right to force their own ideals, worldviews, or politics on anyone else.
edit: i dont agree with that old fart, sex and gender is the same damn thing. hes confusing sexuality for gender, which it isnt.
Typical liberal woman here; whines about being interrupted, but both times Douglas speaks she’s running her mouth interrupting him.
Douglas is always right. He need't be told that he doesn't understand something.
@@greglp970there's a difference
If more gay people where down to earth like him, I’d fully support them but sadly they aren’t
@@hansjones5708he’s gay? Lol who knew 😂
@@jacobbrumbaugh6928because his entire life doesn't revolve around his sexuality or identity.
@@jacobbrumbaugh6928 yes he is gay if you need clarification
I'd no idea who she was. Now I hear her I've got to agree with Laurence Fox.
It's really hilarious watching Mr. Murray's opponents trying the "gotcha" move on him. It never ends well for them as most have the intellectual depth of a goldfish in a bowl.
Yup. The blonde woman especially is so childish.
She’s absolutely off her rocker 😂
Just off!!
They're not invited on to present arguments. They're there to help Sky News stoke the culture wars & get a rise out of imbeciles like you.
She’s wrong, but Douglas is a absolute bellend. Insufferable little man
Yes, she always gets furious if someone disagrees with her.
Douglas is 100% correct and it’s sad the damage that’s been done to the LGB community
LGB paved the way for this madness. Homosexuality should be made illegal. Let states police as they choose.
The last of my concerns is what's being done to the LGB community. No offense intended, and also not sorry.
Parents teach the children nonsense all the time. Just go to any church and witness the nonsense that adults teach children.
Hell, lake of fire, eternal damnation, etc.
Sad that the LGB got caught in the crossfire here.
The real battle is between civil community vs those woke trans freaks.
Maybe,,, where and who invited Tee to the partee
After this conversation, I come to the conclusion that gender identity should be banned.
A couple of years ago, nobody talked about gender and we were fine.
Thank you Douglas for at least trying to keep this world sane.
@@NaghtiesMaxinus correction: it's 'an accidental.'