A Tale of Two Islands
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2023
- Why is Hispaniola divided between poor Haiti and the rich* Dominican?
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Some sources/further reading:
Broad overviews of Haiti and The DR:
www.researchgate.net/publicat...
www.britannica.com/place/Hisp...
www.britannica.com/topic/Hait...
Dominican Economic History:
www.jstor.org/stable/2503536?...
www.dominicansugar.org/about-t...
countrystudies.us/dominican-r...
www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/4... (Modern Dominican growth)
www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/... (Modern growth)
photius.com/countries/dominic...
Haitian Economic History:
scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlu... (Haitian revolution)
piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/Henoc... (best one)
www.cfr.org/backgrounder/hait...
www.worldbank.org/en/country/...
www.wider.unu.edu/publication... (failure of foreign aid)
www.pbs.org/newshour/world/ha...
reliefweb.int/report/haiti/ha...
www.npr.org/templates/story/s...
reparationscomm.org/reparatio...
oec.world/en/profile/country/hti
I finally made it into a hoser video. Now there is nothing left to do but retire.
That Mr. Beat guy deserves an Emmy for this performance
@@h0ser you 2 deserve a million subs
give me money mr breast
Big fan of both of your work!
@@kanyewest2828 breast lol
When I went to Cap-Haitien in High School, it made me realize that "poor" in the U.S. is very different from poor in other countries. It wasn't even the poorest region in the country.
Poor in the U.S. is middle-high class in most latin american countries lmao
@@axelpepen2642 yep, lol
how about the homeless, druggy in america?
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 A small percentage of people in the US is homeless. Pretty much everyone in Haiti would be considered homeless to some degree.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 homeless people make up a very small part of the population, and even they have access to public services
Haiti being forced to pay France back, regardless of how little it may have been, was an absolute travesty of justice
@@dexterkrammer1089 damn dude, that's crazy. Should the U.S. pay Britain reparations too?
Should all old colonies pay reparations? Lmao
We need to stop with Haiti paid France money back speech. The real enemy of Haiti is the USA, Haiti could rebound and make more money than what they paid France. USA is the one that prevent haiti move forward they are the one that installs president in Haiti for their gain. All those gang members in Haiti working for them.
@@dexterkrammer1089this is one of the wildest Things I've ever read on the internet. I guess India and Vietnam should pay it back too, USA as well. I'm technically everyone should be paying reparations to Italy for the Roman Empire. And all of South America needs to pay Europe.
@dexterkrammer1089 I reiterate my question: should the U.S. pay reparations to Britain?
I’m currently in DR for the first time and I’m hesitant to use the word rich. Yes there are many rich people and the economy is 10x Haiti’s however I am taken aback by the low wages and all the poverty I’ve seen on this trip, I thought it would be less, more akin to Puerto Rico. Taking the Santo Domingo teleférico/cable car over the slums was eye-opening.
exactly, there’s so many people living in poverty
Puerto Rico is a sad story on its own. The island is basically run by a colonial regime oh im sorry "management commission" that suspended minimum wage and basically ensures that Puerto Ricans who stay on the island remain poor. Republicans use culture war scare tactics ("Democrats are going to abort all your babies and turn your kids gay") to curb the statehood movement because if PR became a state the federal government would be forced to actually deal with its problems and it would gain likely two Democratic senators and 5 likely blue leaning congessional districts.
@@ifailedenglish5974 most of my Dominican friends there make less than 350 a month and the average in the country is only 400 a month and people talking about rich? Just because a bunch of foreigners coming there buying up all the people land driving GDP numbers up don’t make the people rich.
@@dragano556this is why I was confused! I’m from California and moved to NYC and this is the first time I have ever met Dominicans or Puerto Ricans and the Dominican guys that would cut my hair said it was very poor in the Dominican Republic. I’m confused
Yeah that title is completely clickbait. Dominican Republic is not rich at all. It’s just as bad as Haiti. They’re down there because of their former colonizers.
Seeing Mr Beat in a Hoser video is like seeing your teacher in Public while shopping in a Mall
Shia surprise!
@@jtgdthere a gun to your head, and death in his eyes
But you can do ju jitsu
That one chill teacher
One time I saw my teacher at a water park😭🤮
MR BEAAAAST!!!!
Never ask a man his salary
Never ask a woman their weight
Never ask a Dominican what they think about Haitians
Yeah it's heavy. Well Haitians aren't fond of dominicans either but they don't make hating Dominicans their whole identity. On the other hand, the only independence date dominicans celebrate is the one from Haiti from what i've seen.
@@prod.jimmyhd yeah cause the Haitian government was brutal asf. Dominicans never wanted to be a part of Haiti, and were in process of joining Gran Colombia, when the Haitians invaded.
@@prod.jimmyhd The other occupations did not threaten the existence of the Dominican people.
@@prod.jimmyhd dominican's identity is not based on hating haitians, lmao.
I’m Dominican and I don’t have anything against Haitians, in fact apart from the boomers who hate Haitians cuz of ignorance, many Dominicans don’t hate Haitians but they hate/dislike the idea of Haitian immigration, and it makes sense cuz Haitian women have like 7 children out of nowhere when they see a Dominican hospital lol
Says a lot about Hispaniola's history when you can see where the border is on a Satellite map because of the lack of forest cover on the Haiti side. Fun facts about Haiti: So Haiti in 1822 was the first country to recognize the then newly-formed Greece during the fight against the Ottomans, even sending 45 tons of coffee for Greece to sell in order to buy arms and a hundred Haitian men to Greece to help and fight (but they never made it because they all died on the way), but another interesting thing is how the POLES helped Haiti gain independence.
In 1802, Napoleon dispatched a Polish legion of around 5,200 men to join the French forces in Saint-Domingue to stop the rebellion. By helping the French, they hoped that France would support Polish independence. But when they arrived, they soon learned why they were really there, to stop people from gaining their freedom. It was something they could relate to. So some Poles ended up changing sides, while others intentionally didn't follow orders from the French to eliminate prisoners they captured. After Haiti won, the Poles were spared and were recognized as full citizens. Today, the village of Cazale is home to the descendants of this legion.
Wow these are interesting facts!
@aldogoopio another factoid
All their descendent were killed and raped
@@bocchithean-cap3404 Not really.
That defiant attitude towards any type of higher power is still a part of the polish national character 😂
@@HM-iy3dc Yet they believe in God.
born and raised in south florida, ive met plenty of haitians, everyone has been so nice and so genuine; my heart breaks for that country, they cant catch a break.. if its not corruption and gangs, its nature with earthquakes and hurricanes, they havent even had a CHANCE to get back on their feet. i hope they do well
Not in NYC! They will steal from you.
That’s cuz they’re in America. Every group of people know not to fuck up in America
Nature doesn't have anything to do with it, corruption is the root of all evils
They only behave like that in the US. Read about the recent situation in Mexico.
@@sheiladelarosa_I've heard the opposite. They're very "criminally" in South Florida and not too bad in Tijuana.
As a Dominican, I think the polarizing situation on the island isn’t highlighted enough, nice video!
At the time of writing, you couldn’t even have finished the video 🤨
Both between Haiti and Dominicans themselves
@@JannesJustus because I know it’ll be a nice video
Vox ya hizo un vídeo sobre este tema, ya lo viste?
Also weren't a huge part of Haitians genocided in the 50's?
I can’t believe he ignored the fact that there are 12 million penguins in Antarctica, and there are 36,686 people in Monaco, so if the penguins of Antarctica decided to invade Monaco, each person would have to fight over 300 penguins.
Hail the Republic of Antarctica 🐧
Why would you hurt a penguin anyway
But France militarily defends Monaco, so you’re looking at five French people per penguin.
@@pylotheric9777 so if penguins invaded you you would just let them kill you
A couple decades ago I started a non-profit project called P.E.P.P. (Polar Exchange Preservation Program), where we transport 50% of the polar bears to the South Pole, and 50% of the Penguins to the North Pole. So far it's been wildly successful for the polar bears - not sure why the penguins keep disappearing though:(
As a Dominican, I would like to add that the Dominican flag changes whether the country is at war or not. If the country is not at war, then we have our regular blue (on the top left), red (on the top right), red (on the bottom left), and blue (on the bottom right).
If the country is at war then the flag gets flipped with red, blue, red, blue; following the same order I provided. The reason being, is that red represented blood when it was created and today it holds the same meaning.
I liked the video, it really explains a lot of the economic difference and overall differences between the two countries.
It’s not a big deal bro
It is similar with the Philippines 🇵🇭 where during peace time the blue is on top of the red, and during war time the flag is flipped
Who are you at war with?
@@leandrocatorce2741 its cool to know that other countries adopt similar flag details
In DR we are not rich, we are also poor, just not as poor as Haiti
Some people are poor other are rich
@@morenocesarpDominicans are poor, strangers in Dominican republic are rich. Here's the truth
As a Dominican, awesome to see people talk about the history of it, my parents grew up in the 60s-70s, so it's cool to understand it more as they moved from there after I was born.
Hola :D
Rarity to see anime or even Pokémon pfp for a Dominican
@@letsgorodriguez what do you mean, we love anime so much here we even got movies on the cinema from anime and also pokemon, even though is not as loved as dragon ball or naruto is still very respected here my man
@@rebasado9514 anime is bad for you. It rots the brain. Not a flex.
@@rebasado9514 bah, en todos los paises latinoamericanos es popular, estais ademas mucho mas cerca de japon que España
“If a Colony is struggling, Blame the French” -Average Brit
France was literally far and away the worst overlord you could be a colony of
They say that for a reason
Well, the countries affected by French colonization are objectively worse than British colonized countries. Brits gave more regional autonomy to colonized areas and gave them the Common Law system, which is a huge aide to development
@@aidanaldrich7795 unless when the border drawn undermine regional ethnic groups like in Sudan
@Arya .N. Do you realize how ethnically diverse India is? Sudans issue isn't so much race as religion. Muslim North and Christian South
I'm Dominican but I really want Haiti to prosper soon 😢 no human being should live in those conditions. ❤ at this point its about human beings. They are human beings.
That is a very important thing to consider. Come on Haiti, you can do it!
No they are not
@@williamdavidson5818 what do you mean
Don't give him attention, there's always that person
@@wildg7477ik dude, on a short about kosta's case some comments we're:
"Kosta my love"
"Handsome as always"
"I'm going to do the same thing"
Wtf 💀
I've been to DR many times because of good weather and friendly Dominicans. They are very welcoming and easy going folks. It's not perfect but I feel that they are heading in the right direction. For Haiti, I've been told that the best of Haitians are in Montreal. So sad. It is so dangerous even missionaries and charity organizations are advised to stay away.
that's the reality.
Is not a perfect country but it's going on the right direction.
the IMF said DR will be an advanced economy in 4 decades and that's something we should feel proud.
The Dominican Republic is quite an interesting place! Cool to see you make a video about it
Also this video explains better than the classes they give us! Here (in RD) they just talk about our part of the history but never eealy say what happend to Haití
@@skygamer8388obviously education is going to focus in our country
As a Cuban, I think you should really depict Cuba as an alligator 🇨🇺 Manatees don't really make much sense. It is a very common wisdom that the shape of the island kind of looks like an alligator (caimán)
Lots of love to our neighbours in Haiti and Quisqueya 🇨🇺❤️🇭🇹❤️🇩🇴
Alligators are more florida
@@metal_pipe9764 Florida ain’t a country bro. There’s also a difference between a caiman and an alligator
@@Norwagen ik
@@Norwagen everyone knows floridians are the same type of subset of humanity as australians or americans
@@Norwagen aren't caimans the really creepy ones with the short snouts?
BRO TY SO MUCH IM DOMINICAN AND YOU CANT UNDERSTAND AND YOU CANT EVEN PUT INTO WORDS HOW GRATEFULL WE ARE FOR YOU TO HAVE DONE A VIDEO ON US. TY!!!!!
🇭🇹: “please help us for the love of God”
🇩🇴: *cranks speakervan*
Haiti's history is preety sad same as Dominican but they try a little bit to became a better place
Fun fact for Haiti: Haiti was the first nation to the world to recognize Greece as an independent nation in the beginning of the Greek Revolution of independence of 1821
It's Beginning not Begging
Haiti clearly didn't have the opportunity to start at the same level
@@metal_pipe9764 thanks for telling bro
Με πρόλαβες
@@NP3GA δεν πειράζει αν θέλεις μπορείς να το γράψεις
Haiti's history is just depressing. It's sad to see how colonization, corrupt, greedy, and just downright abhorrent individuals, and those awful earthquakes are keeping them down
I remember seeing a documentary about the dark market of organs in Haiti, truly disturbing stuff. Living there must be hell
"thank you france"
France just robbers Haiti bank
Yeah “earthquakes”
@@nael973 France has been gone for quite some time
Phenomenal recap of DR's history! Thanks!!
thank you brother for the effort in gathering all of this veri important information for those that dont know the real true about the history of the island, thank you
As a Puerto Rican I find funny how hoser is avoiding mentioning Puerto Rico at all cost. I feel he doesn’t want to open a complicated can a worms lol
What does Puerto Rico have to do with this?
He'll get to you eventually.
@@Snoy_Fly It's Puerto Ricans who secretly run the world. How do you think Bad Bunny got so famous? Good music?
@@Snoy_Fly you don't want to know about the rican tales and the chicanery.
@@Snoy_Fly it's a very complicated & (this is very important) ongoing situation & is an issue that will get you hate from one side or the other depending on how you tell it. I, a stateside Puerto Rican, brought it up to a native & she was furious with my assessment of it.
Just to be clear on something: Lately these types of videos titled on the realm of '' two opposites side of the same island; the rich and poor; the world difference in the same island'' and etc.
As a Dominican I want to say this: The Dominican Republic is NOT a rich country. Nowhere near. You can see it for yourself if you go to the country. Lot of poors, dirt and economic discrepancies. Obviously this is not counting the RESORTS, where most tourist go. They do not reflect the realities of the nation.
The DR is doing somewhat well compared to other countries in Central America, But let's please stop pretending it's a rich country because most politicians use this to try and fool the citizenry by making them believe everything is going okay.
You seem to have misunderstood the video. It’s objective is to explain not why Dominicana is “rich” but why Haiti is an absolute shitshow, and why it’s so different from the moderately alright Dominican Republic
@@PabloRodriguez-ov9sx That's the thing. It'S kind of a fake title and click-bait to show the word ''rich'' above the map of the DR. It is not. Moderately, yes. A better title would simply be ''why haiti is so chaotic compared to DR'' or ''why is the DR improving its economy while Haiti is not''. And the problem is, this is not the only video. Others also do the same.
@@JoseLeybaDiaz True. However, it’s mostly a way to make it catch the eye. It may be a little bit clickbaity, but the video does actually specify it’s not that rich a country. It’s a moderately clickbaity way of catching your eye, as well as serve a good contrast with Haiti, and it does not risk someone being misinformed about the country if they actually watch the video. Still, you’re right.
@@PabloRodriguez-ov9sx yeah you are right
Exactamente ❤
Interesting Haitian facts: Gourds were so important to the Haitian people that in 1807, President Henri Christophe (who lived from 1761 to 1820) made them the base of national currency and declared all gourds the property of the state. Today, the Haitian currency is called “gourdes.” Île a Vache (Cow Island) lies off Haiti’s southern coast and is so named because it was once overrun by wild cows descended from animals abandoned by the Spanish. With an area of 10,714 square miles (27,750 square kilometers), Haiti is only slightly larger than Vermont. Haitian revolutionary leader Francois-Dominique Toussaint earned the nickname Toussaint-L’ Ouverture (the opening), which referred to his ability to find an opening in the enemy lines as well as opening the way for Haiti’s independence
I feel like either a Cuban crocodile or the Cuban trogon which is the national bird, would be a better representation of Cuba than a manatee, which is a creature associated with the state of Florida rather than Cuba.
With Florida? Here in the DR, it is our favorite marine mammal, on par with the humpback whales.
Oh Supreme Leader, it is you! How does Kim Jong-Dos fair, oh Supreme Leader?
When did Cuba get independence from
Loove this channel, learning so much!
im Haitian and the history was always sad to me. i remember in 2021 i was driving with my dad and got news about the earthquake (we live in new jersey). i was really worried for the country. i hope that it can be healthy and rich nation soon.
Im dominican and live in the cibao region, remember that day when my dad came home and turn on the tv just to watch the news about Haiti. I was really sad
I don't see Haiti becoming a healthy and rich nation soon, not unless they give up their sovereignty and allow themselves to be ran by either the Canadians or the British for at least half a century. The Canadians or the British can then set up a proper government, crack down on violence fast, deal with corruption that has paralyzed the nation, teach the people how to run the country, build things that Haiti needs, and in a few decades actually see prosperity.
Haitians continuing to run Haiti will only bring more suffering to the Haitian people, and to the world because then Haitians will have to flee somewhere.
@@cashewnuttel9054 Maybe closer to half a century
@@francispham6113 Sorry, half a century is what I meant.
You have to be a christian to have that much stupid hope. Rich nation? LMFAO... How did independence work out so far? Over 200 years of ineptitude.
Hello, I'm from the Dominican Republic. Imagine my surprise when hoser made a video about our island, when I have followed him for a very long while. I decided to point out several things as if they are true or false or if there is a lot more nuance than whatever research you do into us can provide, because culture is a thing. Be warned, I'm about to write a lot.
To make a point zero, the relationship between our countries isn't explained well enough. Not due to a lack of research from hoser mind you, but because there is a ton of nuance to be mentioned. The Dominican Republic is basically the FIRST country called into action to help out Haiti when shit goes down, which is more often than you think. Our country is poor even if its said our economy is growing, VERY poor, but we STILL have to babysit Haiti till this day, to the point where there are international calls to just straight up unite as 1 island. No Dominican wants that. LITERALLY no Dominican wants it.
Our "growth" is attributed to Tourism, people, not exports or outside work, which means all this money go to small elite groups. The normal citizen like me? Just so you have an idea, I work a professional tech job after graduating from a university and getting 4 certificates in courses for expanding my resume. I make almost 800$ a month and every single consumer good is 30% to 40% more expensive than in the US, food included (housing NOT included fyi). Imagine if I wasn't prepared/educated as I am, it IS that low.
Taking pity on Haiti for their past as slaves and "liberating" themselves from being as such is the normal reaction, but for what happened next (reparations) you need to understand the context. Haitians, after liberating themselves, destroyed EVERY single infrastructure the French had left behind when they packed up and then started mass killing every single white person they found, that's where the true reparation costs come from.
To this day, our export of sugar and cacao is massive. Nobody wants to admit it publicly or legally, but we are a vassal state for the US much like Puerto Rico at this point. Whenever something happens and the US gives our Govt a call? We follow whatever they want us to do without question. At this point we are seriously hoping they just somehow buy us or acquire us cause life here ain't shiny beaches and good music.
Trujillo (For English speakers, it's spoken as TRUIJIYO not TRUJILO) was, without a shadow of doubt, a massive fucking dickhead. A ridiculously long dictatorship almost turned empire. There is a TON of people that love him to this day though, because for all his genuinely evil shit he pulled and all the money he stole, he undoubtedly DID make our economy stronger and cemented this rock's place in the Caribbean as a hub for exports and tourism. He was murdered after a lot of riling up and tensions after he murder the Mirabal Sisters, martyrs for violence against women and political revolutionaries for women strength in machista Latino countries. There is a reason why the INTERNATIONAL Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women is on 25th of November. I'll let you figure out why.
Some little tidbits;
Tourism is our biggest drive, yes, but only in ESSENTIALLY 2 parts; Punta Cana (which I'm sure many people looking for exotic Caribbean beaches and hotels have heard of) which is mostly owned by Americans or, again, small group of elites. Then you have Samana, or the little corner of Terrenas, which is the MAIN hub for Europeans in this country. Dear reader, I truly advise you from a depth of true sincerity, do NOT go anywhere else than these 2 places. Our country is extremely dangerous for foreigners, even if it sounds like we are humble.
Vodooism in Haiti is STILL a very big thing, to the point where many illegal Haitians still practice it and don't bother maybe learning the Dominican culture of how things are done or made. It creeps out a lot of people in the main cities.
Dominicans are, in general, extremely racist towards Haitians. You think the US has a problem with illegal Mexican Immigrants??? Oh BOY how wrong you are. I could go into detail, but I'm writing too much already. Ask later.
Haiti is, from this writer's perspective at least, extremely unlucky. From the corrupt govs they get, to the Natural disasters that they just get hit on top of one another, to how their culture is self destructive.. Just everything man. I wish it would be solved, but it gets thrown on top of the small little ass country that is the DR.
Speaker vans are actually extremely common. We don't have laws against very loud music at night. Boy can I write a ton about that. At 1 point even I wanted the big ass speakers on my trunk and just open it and let Rip & Tear go off. But I won't, I think you get the implication.
Also, that frontier/division pic? 100% true, I've been to our frontier several times for other things and its genuinely INCREDIBLE how you can see the sheer division between 2 countries by a single dirt road. Haitians have NOTORIOUSLY burnt their forests to get carbon to use and/or sell.
NOTHING is as it seems in the ads picture for travel or general google images you see. Every single young Dominican wants to leave this goddamn rock. No one wants to be here. I'm sure Haitians feel the same, and I can't blame them.
Myself included.
If you got any questions, please do ask away, im more than happy to share. If I can. Or have the time.
Thank you for your insights.
que loco, entiendo el sentimiento de quere irse de tu pais, soy de venezuela asi con eso lo digo todo
Loco pero tu hablate' de to' ahí. Yo también soy Dominicano y lo sentí igualito, creo que sí nos conociéramos nos caeríamos bien. Me encanta tu inglés btw. Espero que te vaya bien👍🏻
What about the manufacturing sector? I read that it's also contributed to the gdp growth. Something about medical technology? Foreign companies?
@@in_ur_moms_house Foreign companies rule a lot when it comes to the tourism sector. The government has been lazy enough to not exploit tourism by themselves but pander to US who under this administration has been trying to boycott both Dominican products and tourism based off external political issues such as us not taking Haitians to stop them from going to the US border
This was a very enlightening video, I have been to DR several times but learned a lot here. I have to say though, hearing you “The Dominican” over and over plus your pronunciation of Punta Cana & Trujillo is like nails on a chalkboard
Lmfaoo the van was super spot on thank you for the shout out
I'm living here in Santiago Chile, and I took a tour this week. The guide was explaining the huge Haitian population here. It's very interesting how they tried giving disaster relief to them, but it didn't seem to work very well.
It's our corrupt politicians
@@baylorddoom2842
Every politician I've seen is corrupt. It's no good anywhere. I've lived in over 30 counties.
Your new president is an interesting young man. I'm neither here nor there about him, but he's definitely interesting.
@@Seth-mu3wo He's trying but he's a typical social democrat and a lot of people thinks that he is too "soft".
@@Seth-mu3woit’s not binary. You aren’t just corrupt or not corrupt. Haitian politicians are far more corrupt than others
@@baylorddoom2842 yeah because it surely isn't the people that are the problem.
Haiti’s normal state is always complete chaos.
That’s really sad.
@Curiosity wdym how??
That's because someone is literally ALWAYS invading us or embargoing us since independence
@@mariotheundying One guy has some expectations, the other guy knows what's up and has none.
Because of the French.
I lived in the DR in the late 1980's. I can't believe how much it has developed and changed. Some for the better - some not.
I didnt know about this channel but I like it. Good work.
Both countries are poor but Haiti's essentially a failed state whilst Dominican Republic is developing & Haitians aren't just running to the US they're also running to Canada, DR, Bahamas, Chile, Brazil, French Guiana, & pretty much every other Caribbean country
Because they were saddled with the French debt while Dominicans declared independence without taking any of that debt with them.
@@jasonhaven7170 Why did you pay the French if you "beat" them? Lol You dirt eaters feared they would come back with a full army and take Haiti back.
@@jasonhaven7170 they weren't saddled with it, they made the horrible decision to AGREE to it despite winning a revolutionary war. They could've kept fighting and refused to pay.
@@IFRYRCE And then been invaded and taken over and enslaved again.
@@jasonhaven7170 no, not really, there is a number of choices, agreeing to a huge dept was the lazy one, as the dudes who agree to it weren't the ones who were going to work the fields and couldn't care less, so long a portion of the profits stayed in their pockets - that's what a politician is.
I was in Dominican republic and It was AMAZING!!!
Yessir Its great
I vacationed there too! It was really fun!
Where you from ?
It is for tourists. The average Dominican, on the other hand...
@@BTL_LTW Fr, if the government wasn’t so garbage, there wouldn’t be doubts about who is rich and poor in the island
Well done d r keep on rising
Dominican Republic is not rich. I wish ppl would stop saying this. If Haitians have a penny, the Dominicans have two.
Yo at 8:38 before you said sugar I thought you meant coke lol
That was the intended effect:)
Your videos are what I look forward to. Keep up the Good work H0ser
Great job men you got my respect ❤
People should understand that if another country has invaded another country many peiople will be killed. Haiti invaded the Dominican Republic for 22 years and many Dominicans were killed, which nobody mentions. Haiti wanted to change the Dominican Republic's language religion, etc.
Dominican republic got independence from Spain in 1821
@@familyandfriends3519 Y DE HAITI EN EL 1844.
And I’m so sorry that even happened. But I’m pretty sure that was during the ruling of that one corrupt Haitian president correct? I forgot his name but he fucked shit up for everrryyybodyyyy.
Yall love to talk about that, but never talk about USA invasions
@@familyandfriends3519 Wrong in 1821 Dominican Republic and the flag was not created it was after Haiti war in 1844 Dominican Republic was born.
Dominicans watching both Hoser and Mr Beat make videos about their country it’s like Christmas coming early this year ❤🇩🇴
Facts bro
Dominican republic got independence from Spain in 1821
great video!
I appreciate how this person gives us so much information on this island
8:51 I thought it wa- [perm ban]
14:51 best part of the video hands down 🤣💀 Nah but fr tho, I've been watching your content for quite a while and never thought I would see you doing a video related to the Hispaniola. Great video! Greetings from DR 🇩🇴
first vid of this channel and a long time mr beat fan nice surprise!
Domincan here! Thank you for this very interesting video, its cool to see the huge differences between our country and the neighboring one.
You know it’s a good day when Hoser uploads
Absolutely love this video, bieng dominican never expected you to cover it since we are not a major player in world politics, but is definitely a welcome surprise. Thank you.
Most of these companies are not owned by the Dominican people that’s what’s fucked up, would you rather have a beat up home or rent a luxury apartment? If you don’t own anything, you are a slave, no matter how pretty it is.
@@RBslash22 That is fair enough, but I would rather be employed than unemployed. I guess it comes down to basic survival, my family that works in the tourism and manufacturing business does not give a damn who owns or does not own those businesses as long as the food is on the table. and also some major businesses are actually either fully owned or at least partially owned by Dominicans.
@@joseprofeta8159 that’s the problem your enemies know you’re hungry, so they take advantage of your hunger.
I absolutely love your videos. They have made me more insightful and I have come to realization that the attitude of people at any place play a major role . I love the fucky music because it doesn't make me feel depressed seeing all the shit around the world . I loved your Iraq and Afghanistan video. The start of the Iraq video was awesome.
You are really insightful. Keep your amazing brain sharp and keep bringing us such videos. Thanks dude love from India
Great video!
I was just reading up on the India-Dominican Republic relations as our foreign minister was in Santo Domingo
I opened YT and your video on the topic appeared….what a coincidence !
Another, often not spoken about, issue was the US exporting all their excess rice to Haiti at prices and quality that Haitian farmers couldn’t compete with driving many out of business and causing Haitians to become dependent on American rice instead of supporting their own farming economy. If you are not aware, rice is the main dish in Haiti often as a daily meal. (Their rice and bean dishes are also very good 😋)
You know what? I think Haiti being poor is a hoax. They're not actually poor, but actually excessively rich, probably richer than Norway even; they're like Wakanda.
If they are so poor, then why do they have 11 million people?
@dish dog nah they was selling rice to Haiti, even Clinton apologize for it
@dish dog it force farmers to lose there jobs basically
@@DuecyHD or frees them up to crow cash crops instead of sustenance crops.
Sounds like they were given an opportunity to make money by growing another crop but instead took the easy option and took free food
Glad to see this video, my country finally getting some mention and recognition, greetings from Dominican Republic.
Hispaniola history be like:
> in shambles from exploitation
> new exploiter takes power
> 60,000 perish
Love your editing style and can getting some idea of countries, how they perform from you.
, keep it up 🙏
I've watched videos on touristic places in DR. It's absolutely beautiful.
As a Dominican, fan of your channel and simply a history nerd in general, you did a fantastic job explaining both countries' history. I will now use this video for future reference if anyone asks me for a summary of my country (and the differences between Haiti). Thank you! Now off to Mr Beat's video.
Bro you're dominican
Sorry for the invasion in 1965
(I'm from brazil🇧🇷)
@@mnanim.5972 no one want s to read. He wants to watch a video with selective facts.
Dominican republic got independence from Spain in 1821
Great explanations for Haiti's troubled history. Loved the Mr. Beat Cameo 😂 Nice work.
With predominantly Spanish, African and Taíno roots, Dominican culture is a melting pot of creativity, a mixture of races, customs, dreams and hopes.🤣That's my country
Thanks for talking about dominican republic!
My mother grew up in haiti during the dictator and told me so many horror stories about the tonton macoutes. She used to live behind a police station and would hear them torture prisoners.
Plus ca change...,
Chocolate Rain is here man.awesome!
Those days were a million times better than today.
@@manfromthepast 👍
The tonton macoutes need to come back, to handle the gangsters who are running amok everywhere.
Ive been preaching this for years, finally someone gets me
I recently went to the Dominican Republic and it was a really nice country, my resort sucked but the people are friendly, the island was beautiful, and going to a Toros Del Este baseball game in La Romana was one of the best sports experiences I've ever had!
Funny you upload this as I'm in the Dominican for my wedding/honeymoon lol. Thanks h0ser
As a Dominican I’m super happy my favorite CZcamsr finally made a video on this
I am so happy you covered my country and Haiti. Certainly a situation that could use more attention and knowledge
Hoser is my new binge
When France demanded that money from Haiti, the Haitians invaded the DR and forced it to pay its debt (for that they used as a pretext that it was going to break slavery but in reality it was to be able to pay its debt with France), that period was of great They oppressed the DR, they wanted us to forget our own language, religion, culture, they made a total abuse of power, they extended work hours, compulsory military service among others... We endured that for 22 long years until 1844.
The saddest difference in my opinion is the forestry difference. The Island was once completely naturally beautiful.
Tell them to stop chopping their tress down and not replanting
When the debt was paid, Haiti was around 30% covered. What is it now, 2%? Well maybe in that period between the end of debt and now the Haitians should of thought of conservation instead of profit! LOL let's just continue destroying our country and only start complaining when the quick buck disappears. How dare the French show us that chopping down trees can make money.
LOS AHITIANOS MUTILARON SU PAIS. 😢
@@michaelalexifythey can't. They apparently cross the border to chop down trees in DR.
As a Haitian-American, I'm sad that my parent's home country is in such ruin. 🇭🇹🇭🇹
u can say thx to colonialism and current capitalism to that
You're just an American
@@sinefromabovebabylon3577 he literally comes or his parents from haiti...how is he not haitian-american 😂🤦
@@denny6379Haití nació muerto, no fue culpa del capitalismo
Que esperaban después de la tremenda guerra por su independencia y la posterior ejecución de todos los "blancos"
Fr
This video totally missed the point about the two populations of the two countries that share this unique island. They missed it as most everyone does, because the history between 1492 and 1804 (the year the state of Haiti was founded), is not told correctly.
The discovery and colonization by Spaniards of the Western Hemisphere had a direct effect on the island of Hispaniola and its people, basically today's Spanish speaking mixed race Dominicans, that cannot be explained by just what Spaniards did elsewhere (Cuba. Mexico, Peru, Colombia, etc.).
My ancestors came as early as 1594 to the Cibao Valley and stayed there, isolated for the next 450 years, while the rest of the world evolved to the XX century (until about the 1960's). But they represented consistently between 65% to 80% of the island inhabitants, when it was wholly under Spain, or after the Eastern 2/3 of the island became independent of the Haitian empire in 1844, as the Dominican Republic.
After Santo Domingo played a transcendental role in the first 50 years since the discovery in 1492, it was the seat of the Castilian Vice-royalty of the West Indies. It was then quickly abandoned (1537) for the Spanish Vice-royalties in Mexico (1535) and Peru (1542).
In 1560, all naval logistics was transferred to Cuba from Santo Domingo, which meant deserting the island, except for the northern interior Cibao Valley, rich in agriculture and gold.
That allowed for the abandoned population to mix with the remaining Tainos and the few black slaves brought around 1506, for the now bankrupt sugar plantations on the Southern Caribbean coast West of Santo Domingo. By the time the English pirate Francis Drake assaulted Santo Domingo, in 1586, the city was already a ruined village.
In 1603, the Spanish king ordered all coastal cities in the North and West of the island to be moved to the Eastern interior.
Thus, Montecristi and Puerto Plata (in the North) as well as Bayajá and Yaguana (in the West, now Haiti) were forcibly moved to Monte-Plata and Baya-Guana that are located now NE of Santo Domingo.
That was the ,context when French pirates atrted taking over the Western side of the island. In 1697, Spain exchanged the West side to France for present day Catalonia.
By then, the French King Louis the XIV, le Roi Soleil, had started importing slaves from Africa with the legal oddity, since 1685, of the Code Noir by which slavery was justified by skin color. Black meant you were less worth than cattle or barely human.
It was typically French since at that time the English had Irish (white) slaves in Jamaica, (since 1655), and other smaller Caribbean islands. The Spanish never had such racially based laws and were more concerned into converting the souls of natives and slaves.
As Santo Domingo became abandoned and poor by the end of the XVI century, slavery only existed in paper in the Spanish side of the island, when France took over the newly named colony of Saint Domingue.
Who were the Haitians? On January 1, 1804, 98% of the free black slaves were Africans, ethnically and culturally, with no roots in the island, since 67% were actually born in Africa while the rest were children or grandchildren of African slaves born in the French side of the island.
They were from more than 20 different ethnic groups from West Africa with no common language, religions or traditions.
They were all black that had been enslaved by other black Africans in Africa and sold to the French, who applied the 1685 Black Code in the island.
Thus, it was no surprise that the framers of the Haitian State wrote in their constitution that it was a Black State where whites should either leave or be killed.
It also prevented them to see themselves as different ethnic groups not sharing a common goal to become a Nation.
That is the root cause why today Haiti is a failed state, because the state model it chose favored messianic leaders that became dictators and only governed for their own group for the 219 years they gained independence.
If you add to the equation the racial discrimination derived of black superiority as a reaction to the French imposed Black Code, you will start understanding the rationale of annexing and colonizing the Spanish speaking racially mixed Dominicans, from 1822 through 1844, forcing the 120,000 Dominicans to fight a 12 years war against the one million Haitians from Africa to gain independence as the Dominican Republic.
The Dominican coat of arms has the Bible in its center with St. John's gospel quote: "You will know the Truth, and Truth will set you free."
The reason is because the plight of the two countries in our island is that imperial powers for the last 500 years have lied about our nations.
I am one of the pioneers in developing European tourism since mid-1976 to both Haiti and Santo Domingo from Switzerland, and I have witnessed first hand how the last 30 years brought back events of 5 centuries ago in respect to Santo Domingo, and 2 centuries ago to Haiti, to understand the status quo of chaos and anarchy of the wealthiest colony France ever had, and prosperity, back to the island that was the entry point of Western culture to the Americas.
Our history is not the history of Spain, or for that matter of Mexico, Colombia, Cuba or any other Spanish speaking country, also it is not the history of out neighbor and former occupier, the Empire of Haiti and its African slaves.
By the way, Dominicans are about 15% Spanish white, 10% black (excluding Haitian origin) and 75% mixed for the last 500 years, but culturally and linguistically Spanish speakers, with deep roots in the island.
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I never expected a video talking about my country
As a Dominican, tbh there aren't a lot of vids abt the history of the island of Hispanola, very happy to see the history of my country here.
I would have named the title "One island, two tales"
Hoser, I really like all your video very informatiove and funny. So, you did attack a big cake here with Haïti and RD. I am from Haïti and what I can say is that it is pretty good! And I recommend it to anybody.
as a canadian i can confirm that I went to Punta Cana, had a great time and forgot haiti ever existed
Because it's trash 😂
@@cristopherchaI mean I wouldn’t put it like that but yeah, we’re in a pretty rough patch right now. Our food and music are great though! 😊
Went to both sides and both places are beautiful
@@guyver-9717 id like to go to haiti one day but maybe after they get things sorted out
@@-Dayton-Get on a cruise that stops in Labadee Haiti. That way you get to see a nice part of Haiti. Celebrity Cruise has cruises that stops there.
There is no telling when Haiti will be fit to visit.
@hoser you should cover El Salvador and how it turned from one of the world's most dangerous countries to the safest it's ever been.
Say what now? The safest?
@@z54964380Almost safer than the US atm
@@z54964380 safer than Chicago
@@z54964380 because of nayib bukele.
@@z54964380 safer than Portland
Proud to have Dominican neighbors 🇵🇷
Que raro que eso venga de un puertorriqueño
@@Asturev en verda
I love my Puertoricans neighbors 🇩🇴❤🇵🇷
Excelente!! Si le pones subtítulos en español te aseguro que esté canal crecerá mucho, historia con humor muy bien😊🇩🇴🇩🇴👌
CZcams tiene subtitulos
As a Dominican I thank for talking about my country see many people don’t even know it exist
Dominican Republic mentioned 🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴 🎉🎉🎉
God bless Mr. Beat
Lmao I saw that too how weird
Good video.
Listening to this at work and the Mr. Beat feature made me :0
Hi, I'm Dominican, I live in Bonao and I'm 18 years old. I'll tell you more or less what I've seen of Haitians in Bonao. I don't know what it's like in the capital or other places.
Haitians are generally a group apart from society, they do not speak to a Dominican unless it is necessary or they simply know little or no Spanish. Sometimes they are not friendly and have a strange aura. You will always see them in lower and middle class neighborhoods, you will find them more In the lower class, they are the largest labor force in construction and usually invade buildings that are in the process of being built or are abandoned to live, consume drugs or have sex.
They are also invading public schools and what shocks me the most is that in public hospitals there are more Haitian women than Dominican women in labor when tax money is supposed to go to Dominican women in hospitals.
All Haitians without documentation can only work in jobs that do not require documents such as construction, agriculture, mechanics or start selling clothes, ice cream utensils, sweets etc and only buy in (colmado) which are small private stores and those jobs do not have taxes.
You will never see them in public places like banks or shopping centers. I think it is due to their low income and that most of them do not have documents.
From the point of view of the Dominicans the main word is (IT'S COMPLICATED) In the Dominican Republic in the news you usually see news for example: a Haitian attacked such people with a machete, kidnappings of people near the border are increasing, a Haitian raped a girl or like one that I remember from last year that a Haitian had killed the owner of a farm in Puerto Plata I don't remember well.
All of the above mentioned, more than Dominicans, we have a strong nationalism, including myself, added to a discrete minority of racists and classists, the general image of Dominicans is not well seen, but.
Common Dominicans treat them well or are indifferent to them.
DO NOT BE CONFUSED BY THE MINORITY OF DOMINICANS, WE ARE NOT RASIST. I HAD HAITIAN FRIENDS AND MY GRANDMOTHER IS BLACK AND I LOVE HER VERY MUCH. ONE OF OUR FATHERS OF THE COUNTRY IS BLACK FRANCISCO DEL ROSARIO SANCHEZ AND THE DEFENDER OF THE RIGHTS OF THE PEASANT MAMA TINGO WAS BLACK.
I just want to leave this information for every foreigner who reads this
thanks for reading.
@@Kaiserbryanm que bueno loco saludos
Mate never let someone make you believe you are racist for having pride in urself and ur home. Nothing you said was racist. Respect to u from Australia
@@joelhungerford8388Thank you very much I don't want to say that the video is racist or something like that, I actually liked it a lot, but to make foreigners understand that Dominicans in (general) are not racist, it's just that, thank you very much
Si, es triste como AUN tenemos personas que juzgan gente solo por que su piel es diferente o por su linaje. Como dominicano he visto todo los rangos de haitianos. La mayoria son bastante amistosos o que solo estan haciendo sus propios asuntos y ya
opino lo mismo bro @@Zanethesnowmann
Dude. We need more content. Where the fuck you been?... haha, but honestly. I appreciate the content that you create. I'm from South Africa and your videos on it has been accurate, entertaining and impactful. The overall presentation and extensive research has made me look into literally every video you have and I learn a little every time. I know a lot of work goes into it and it would take a some time to put together but I want more!!!!!
As a Dominican, this was a fun way to relive high school hahahaha! Great job!
great vid
Dominican here, I sincerely appreciate you using dembow in the background. Only instance where economic history made me want to dance.
"Sumed up by the greatest Dominican invention of all time, the speakervan" sent me rolling lmao. you earned a sub
It is the greatest lol
honestly after learning how some Haitians replanted a forest and those trees never became mature through nature and human action, it filled me with loss of hope that Haiti could not get back part of the forest it lost.
so interesting. good video.
I just love these cute drawings 😊
Mentioning Haitian emigration and Caribbean tourism without saying the word Bahamas once is actually pretty impressive lol
Bahamas who?
considering that Bahamas is the first to send them right back. But, there is no beef with Bahamas. Only Racist DR.
In the Bahamas, they place undocumented Haitians in cages, to await to be processed and don’t let them near areas were locals can come in contact with them. And they ship them back to Haiti in mass numbers. If the DR were to do the same the UN and organizations would be calling for the DR to be taken over.
@@CarlosCastro_ Bahamas get a pass because of all that American tourist money. I still have no clue how the Bahamas didn't end up part of the US since it's literally a 30min boat ride from the Florida coast.
@@mrvwbug4423 Money.
"It's sugar"
I genuinely thought it was cocaine😂💀
That's literally what I thought as well.
Wow! Genuinely? Literally? You guys both had the exact same idea! What are the odds!?
@@mikicerise6250 IDK